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lightworks
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"Poll question: Yeezy in the hospital: publicity stunt or nah?"


          

Poll result (28 votes)
It's a stunt (5 votes)Vote
Nah (23 votes)Vote

  

  

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nah he going threw. yesterday or today was the anny of donda's funeral.
Nov 21st 2016
1
Never view a hospital visit as a publicity stunt until it's proven
Nov 21st 2016
2
Only thing ye suffers from is affluenza, egomania, and gross entitlement
Nov 21st 2016
4
      Wow on point af!
Nov 22nd 2016
5
      even if true, that's still a mental health issue
Nov 22nd 2016
7
           EXACTLY. Your personal opinion of Kanye doesn't rule out
Nov 22nd 2016
10
                That goes both ways.
Nov 22nd 2016
13
                     you don't have to be a fan to recognize that long-distance diagnoses
Nov 22nd 2016
14
                     RE: you don't have to be a fan to recognize that long-distance diagnoses
Nov 22nd 2016
18
                     Bias? His actions speak for themselves. Loudly.
Nov 22nd 2016
61
                          you can't say it's bad for people to diagnose him
Nov 22nd 2016
67
                          Me: Observation based on and limited to readily known and observable fac...
Nov 22nd 2016
72
                               bruh, it's what you're doing.
Nov 22nd 2016
83
                                    These are facts, Stanley.
Nov 22nd 2016
85
                                         I know, you don't like him and you're upset.
Nov 22nd 2016
102
                                              0-2, Captain Save
Nov 22nd 2016
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                          it's clear something changed.
Nov 22nd 2016
69
                          Until he's actually diagnosed, he's a just an entitled brat.
Nov 22nd 2016
74
                               none of his behavior is justifiable, I find him insufferable
Nov 22nd 2016
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                                    It's certainly possible but I'm not sold.
Nov 22nd 2016
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                          If I coughed and sneezed, you'd think I have a cold
Nov 22nd 2016
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                               That's a terribly inept analogy
Nov 22nd 2016
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                                    It's not. People aren't "just" egomaniacs or brats
Nov 22nd 2016
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                                         brat" isn't a diagnosis? You don't say! Tell me more!
Nov 22nd 2016
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                                              Dude... do you live in his house?
Nov 23rd 2016
185
                                                   Are you reacting to what I actually said or how what I said made
Nov 23rd 2016
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                     RE: That goes both ways.
Nov 22nd 2016
64
                          You can doubt their mental health all you want.
Nov 22nd 2016
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A Medical Hospital Or A Mental Hospital
Nov 21st 2016
3
Some Medical Hospital have spaces for mental issues
Nov 22nd 2016
29
I hope everyone gets to a place where this isn't something they ask
Nov 22nd 2016
6
THIS. Nm
Nov 22nd 2016
11
Couldn't have said it better.
Nov 22nd 2016
44
Was hoping folks in here matured
Nov 23rd 2016
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the only thing I found funny
Nov 22nd 2016
8
Sources saying he had to be restrained?
Nov 22nd 2016
9
Nevermind....
Nov 22nd 2016
12
people still think this is an act?
Nov 22nd 2016
15
right.
Nov 22nd 2016
20
ppl still trust their enemy to inform them truthfully?
Nov 22nd 2016
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RE: Yeezy in the hospital: publicity stunt or nah?
Nov 22nd 2016
16
Rhymefest said a while ago that he's wilding and he needs help
Nov 22nd 2016
17
he canceled the rest of his tour dates
Nov 22nd 2016
19
I bet losing his mom is still messing with him
Nov 22nd 2016
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Kim gets robbed= staged. Kanye hospital = staged
Nov 22nd 2016
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When your entire life revolves around seeking attention....
Nov 22nd 2016
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People kill me with this shit
Nov 22nd 2016
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      What are these fake 'stunts' tho
Nov 22nd 2016
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      people conflate courting paparazzi with publicity stunts
Nov 22nd 2016
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      .
Nov 22nd 2016
46
      the only thing that sticks in my memory is old dude on the Nets
Nov 22nd 2016
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      I call them stunts... they really happen
Nov 22nd 2016
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      Name the stunts. We just got one
Nov 22nd 2016
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      Ummm, Kim's last marriage.
Nov 22nd 2016
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           These niggas know...
Nov 22nd 2016
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           I'll never understand why anyone thinks that was fake.
Nov 22nd 2016
47
           It might have to do with Kris saying it was a fraud to boost her show
Nov 22nd 2016
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                You can keep your snark.
Nov 22nd 2016
99
           if you think that was a stunt, I guess?
Nov 22nd 2016
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                Kris Humphries said it was fake
Nov 22nd 2016
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                     I guess you keep up with kris humphries interviews
Nov 22nd 2016
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                          Lame I got internet access and google. Took me 10 seconds to
Nov 22nd 2016
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                          Lmao... it's how he says he was wrong.
Nov 22nd 2016
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                          they got married and got divorced quickly
Nov 22nd 2016
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                          I just googled kris and fake wedding and it popped up.
Nov 22nd 2016
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                               so, you just now googled it, but you were citing it already
Nov 22nd 2016
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                               Your spin game is atrocious
Nov 22nd 2016
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                                    there's nothing to spin fam, y'all cite kardashian history like bile ver...
Nov 22nd 2016
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                               Yeah...
Nov 22nd 2016
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                                    I'm sure there's a baller alert headline somewhere that says it
Nov 22nd 2016
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      even if this stuff were true
Nov 22nd 2016
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           Where do you spend that value?
Nov 22nd 2016
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           I'm not sure what's confusing to you?
Nov 22nd 2016
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           That's great dude. I am happy for you.
Nov 22nd 2016
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                see how positivity spreads?
Nov 22nd 2016
57
This. Right. Here.
Nov 22nd 2016
45
Yep
Nov 23rd 2016
165
Oh, that's Kanye just being Kanye.
Nov 22nd 2016
24
that's Kanye fans being Kanye fans
Nov 22nd 2016
26
      ASN?
Nov 22nd 2016
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           Artsy Smartsy Niggas
Nov 22nd 2016
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wow some of yall are miserable people to even ask this.
Nov 22nd 2016
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& some of y'all are too vulnerable not to.
Nov 22nd 2016
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someone in the other thread said the anniversary..
Nov 22nd 2016
35
Yup, I said the same thing in another thread
Nov 22nd 2016
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you're all over nigga...lol
Nov 22nd 2016
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      chill, Trin...lol
Nov 22nd 2016
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           Let her get it all out.
Nov 22nd 2016
93
It might be. It might not. I would guess money issues more than
Nov 22nd 2016
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what are you talking about
Nov 22nd 2016
62
      They believe Ye when it serves their agenda
Nov 22nd 2016
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i'm sure these are all factors but
Nov 22nd 2016
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THE MOTHER DYING WAS A PUBLICITY STUNT
Nov 22nd 2016
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      That was too much
Nov 22nd 2016
70
Kanye's Fame indirectly killed his mother
Nov 22nd 2016
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What? Dog? Really?
Nov 22nd 2016
63
My mom (and sister) got plastic surgery and we're not rich or famous.
Nov 22nd 2016
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      Did they do so against strict doctor order's not to?
Nov 28th 2016
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full OJ mode upcoming... dont say i didnt tell yall already
Nov 22nd 2016
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^^^^
Nov 22nd 2016
55
probably not.. but you can't possibly fault people for thinking it might...
Nov 22nd 2016
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"f--k being cool"
Nov 22nd 2016
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I hope Kanye gets to a place where this isn't something people ask.
Nov 22nd 2016
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can't change how other people react.
Nov 22nd 2016
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      no doubt bro.
Nov 22nd 2016
80
           It's always pure speculation with celebrities.
Nov 22nd 2016
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he's seriously hurting and stressed. hope he gets the help he needs
Nov 22nd 2016
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First time seeing this.
Nov 22nd 2016
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      Me too
Nov 22nd 2016
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He's really in need o serious validation from people that he loves
Nov 22nd 2016
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well that'd be HIMSELF, no?
Nov 22nd 2016
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RE: Yeezy in the hospital: publicity stunt or nah?
Nov 22nd 2016
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That's not even being a cynic. That's good business practice.
Nov 22nd 2016
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RE: Yeezy in the hospital: publicity stunt or nah?
Nov 22nd 2016
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      I don't see how that makes it better. Sounds like it makes it worst.
Nov 22nd 2016
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Faking mental health issues seems like seriously slippery slope
Nov 22nd 2016
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I wouldn't even say "faking it". More like embracing it.
Nov 22nd 2016
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My guess is that he had to do it or insurance wouldn't pay
Nov 22nd 2016
86
^^^^ding ding ding
Nov 22nd 2016
88
so many people in here know Kanye personally. thats whats up
Nov 22nd 2016
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Same people who knew Hillary was gonnna win
Nov 22nd 2016
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Trying not to be the 'i told you so' guy
Nov 22nd 2016
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      You called it fam
Nov 22nd 2016
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      damn....good observation
Nov 23rd 2016
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Doesn't that go for the "How Dare you Question Them" People as well?
Nov 22nd 2016
Doesn't that go for the "How Dare you Question Them" People as well?
Nov 22nd 2016
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      no, not actually.
Nov 22nd 2016
136
Shit, I thought you couldn't get more cynical than me.
Nov 22nd 2016
91
sounds like it could easily be all of the above
Nov 22nd 2016
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^^^I can agree with this.
Nov 22nd 2016
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For the record, I toldjall ninjaz YEARS AGO dis ninja Ye Crazy!
Nov 22nd 2016
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I asked because I thought it was a storyline for the show
Nov 22nd 2016
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Notice how those people claim they don't know shit about the show
Nov 22nd 2016
109
bruh, you the one who knows all their publicists and shit
Nov 22nd 2016
113
so like, where do you guys cash these "I'm a kanye skeptic" checks?
Nov 22nd 2016
      At the same local Save-A-Thot you deposit yours, I assume
Nov 22nd 2016
116
           unfortunately, there's no check for keeping your mouth shut
Nov 22nd 2016
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                There does seem to be a check for defending people you don't
Nov 22nd 2016
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                     who am I defending?
Nov 22nd 2016
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                          Don't be stupid.
Nov 22nd 2016
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                               that's one thing you can say. try again.
Nov 22nd 2016
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                                    Don't be stupid, troll.
Nov 22nd 2016
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                                         I guess you can't find the name. *shrug*
Nov 22nd 2016
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                                              Don't be stupid, you stupid troll.
Nov 22nd 2016
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                                                   you'll figure it out if you try
Nov 22nd 2016
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That Kardashian pussy is a mf, see Odom, Lamar...
Nov 22nd 2016
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it probably is probably kim's fault. idk why i didn't see it sooner
Nov 22nd 2016
117
double post
Nov 22nd 2016
118
Lamar and Ye were both headcases before joining the KKK
Nov 22nd 2016
121
      Co-relation, not causation. Agreed.
Nov 22nd 2016
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some shit really is bullet-proof. mental illness. kid's sickness...
Nov 22nd 2016
108
***plays Last Call on repeat*** b4 the benzodiazepines
Nov 22nd 2016
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Let's hope
Nov 22nd 2016
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I still contend that he's likely to off himself to bolster his legacy
Nov 22nd 2016
122
The non-skeptical folks should call in "mentallly exhausted" to work
Nov 22nd 2016
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had to call in sick earlier this year after sleeping 9 hours over 5 days
Nov 22nd 2016
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I bet these same people hate the fuck out of Gweneth
Nov 22nd 2016
128
uh, that's definitely a thing.
Nov 22nd 2016
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I've taken personal days because I felt like I was about to get sick
Nov 22nd 2016
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since i work for sensible people my boss would prob come to my house
Nov 22nd 2016
140
Ehh, if we are playing the 'its all hollywood smoke/mirrors'
Nov 22nd 2016
141
ummm. sorry your job's time off allowance is trash?
Nov 22nd 2016
144
I take a few Mental Health days per year
Nov 22nd 2016
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Yeah lots of folks at my work take "mental health days"
Nov 22nd 2016
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I take mental health days but I don't say that to my boss lol
Nov 22nd 2016
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I think Kanye is a dipshit, but, yeah, I've told my boss "I need a day"
Nov 23rd 2016
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You've never heard of anyone on leave for "stress"?
Nov 28th 2016
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      Ninja folks been taking days off for stress long before they were
Nov 28th 2016
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attention whore shit
Nov 22nd 2016
145
Apparently a 5150 was invoked.
Nov 22nd 2016
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how many have/hold mics in their face for a living?
Nov 22nd 2016
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      *tiny violin motion*
Nov 23rd 2016
168
           ^^^^guerrilla monsoon rap
Nov 23rd 2016
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* *Do The Right Thing, OKP* *
Nov 22nd 2016
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RE: * *Do The Right Thing, OKP* *
Nov 22nd 2016
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lol
Nov 22nd 2016
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Its sad that this is all you got going for you. This is your identity he...
Nov 22nd 2016
164
And BOOM goes the dynamite
Nov 23rd 2016
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are you implying having insurance means he's faking mental illness?
Nov 23rd 2016
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maybe... lol
Nov 23rd 2016
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all artists get insured for a tour..its standard practice
Nov 23rd 2016
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so help me understand this conspiracy theory
Nov 23rd 2016
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I have no idea what he is but my theory leans towards exhaustion
Nov 23rd 2016
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if he is bipolar and having a manic episode....
Nov 23rd 2016
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      most of those producers and artist rarely sleep
Nov 23rd 2016
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      that's true but i don't get the comparison
Nov 23rd 2016
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      what's wrong with being crazy though....
Nov 23rd 2016
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           People said Dave was crazy so I see why it rubs him the wrong way
Nov 23rd 2016
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      It will be simply solve, his insurance company will require independent
Nov 26th 2016
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           Yeah, this isn't a long con.
Nov 28th 2016
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it's the longest con of all time
Nov 23rd 2016
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i think he was mentally ill long before this tour
Nov 23rd 2016
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it seems likely in retrospect
Nov 23rd 2016
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Entitled, spoiled brat...
Nov 23rd 2016
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      RE: Entitled, spoiled brat...
Nov 23rd 2016
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           this.
Nov 23rd 2016
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           Thanks for the info
Nov 23rd 2016
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           No prob. I've been pondering why people are resistant to
Nov 23rd 2016
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           Who is trying to prevent anyone from having compassion?
Nov 23rd 2016
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Someone used their insurance policy? Call Oliver Stone.
Nov 23rd 2016
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i do like the use of boom goes the dynamite
Nov 23rd 2016
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If I'm the policy holder, I'm looking at the underwriter more than Kanye
Nov 23rd 2016
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is it really low to cancel a tour and protect yourself financially?
Nov 23rd 2016
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this only proves that there was
Nov 23rd 2016
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I work in entertainment insurance and this is completely standard
Nov 23rd 2016
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doctors are claiming it's paranoia
Nov 26th 2016
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RE: doctors are claiming it's paranoia
Nov 28th 2016
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quite the elaborate con he has going, huh?:
Nov 28th 2016
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Oceans 13 levels
Nov 28th 2016
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I thought tweeting maniacally for years before was overkill tbh
Nov 28th 2016
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You posted those link like you posted new information.
Nov 28th 2016
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      the new information is he's still in the hospital
Nov 28th 2016
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2.tears.in.a.bucket
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1. "nah he going threw. yesterday or today was the anny of donda's funeral."
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Mon Nov-21-16 09:52 PM by 2.tears.in.a.bucket

  

          

ye gave us lil' jimmy skits, spaceship, crack muzik, new slaves & m.j. gone - our nigga dead.

he'll have to come on stage w/a klan hood for me to forsake him.

hope he gets the help he needs. and removes the parasites from his life.

♚♚♚♚

#BYLUG >>> https://goo.gl/1ooFp6

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bitches ain't shit /
cops ain't neither /
they huntin' my people /

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justin_scott
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2. "Never view a hospital visit as a publicity stunt until it's proven"
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and until then, just hope he really gets the help he needs. mental health is a serious issue many people have a hard time coming to terms with.

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Cold Truth
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4. "Only thing ye suffers from is affluenza, egomania, and gross entitlement"
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He's an entitled egomaniac who says and does wild shit because he can while his fans enable him by validating his antics with all manner of fuzzy logic and plea copping.

Jay owes him a phone call.

Zuckerberg owes him a $58 million bailout.

Beyonce owes him a Grammy performance.

Radio owes him airplay for his favorite artists.

The fashion industry owes him a platform for his ideas.

On and on.

He thinks that being a significant musical artist entitles him to an absurd level of access to everyone and everything he so desires. He thinks he deserves the sort of access enjoyed by MJ, where A list celebrities fall all over themselves just to be in his presence and take part in his work.

Ye isn't that.
He wants that, which is fine. Who doesn't?

But he demands it like a spoiled, entitled brat. When he gets over himself and when his fans and yes men stop validating his frail ass ego, he'll be fine.

  

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lightworks
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5. "Wow on point af!"
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Now I'll go ahead and say I'm sure his mom passing and him feeling guilt over it has added to everything but over all I'd say you're spot on.

  

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7. "even if true, that's still a mental health issue"
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caramelapplebttms
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10. "EXACTLY. Your personal opinion of Kanye doesn't rule out"
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Mental illness as being the cause of the traits/ characteristics you're observing.

  

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Cold Truth
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13. "That goes both ways. "
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Tue Nov-22-16 03:26 AM by Cold Truth

  

          

>Mental illness as being the cause of the traits/
>characteristics you're observing.

Likewise, mental illness isn't the only possible reason for those characteristics.

He doesn't have to be mentally ill to be an arrogant, entitled, self centered, self important asshole.

Seems like "affluenza" to me.

Unless you're willing to assume mental illness for everyone with those qualities i see no reason to shoot down the idea that he's probably not mentally ill.

Personally I don't see anything he does that supports the mental illness conclusion. I see a lot to support the arrogant, egomaniacal asshole conclusion.

Fortunately I'm not a Ye Stan so I'm not blinded by fandom.

  

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14. "you don't have to be a fan to recognize that long-distance diagnoses"
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Tue Nov-22-16 03:44 AM by Rjcc

          

whether it's a clean bill of health or not


...are a bad idea.

deciding that someone you're "not a fan" of has their ONLY problem rooted in basically being a terrible person is wrapped in its own bias.

but that's for you to roll with.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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18. "RE: you don't have to be a fan to recognize that long-distance diagnoses"
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>whether it's a clean bill of health or not
>
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>...are a bad idea.
>
>deciding that someone you're "not a fan" of has their ONLY
>problem rooted in basically being a terrible person is wrapped
>in its own bias.


^^^^^This....

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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Cold Truth
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61. "Bias? His actions speak for themselves. Loudly. "
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>whether it's a clean bill of health or not
>
>
>...are a bad idea.
>deciding that someone you're "not a fan" of has their ONLY
>problem rooted in basically being a terrible person is wrapped
>in its own bias.

I'm a fan of his production work and two of his first three albums.

I'm not a *stan*, which is the level of fandom at play with those who make a million excuses for his endless stream of actions that portray him as a terrible person.

To me his actions paint a portrait of a self centered, spoiled brat who still throws tantrums when he doesn't get his way. Not someone who is mentally ill.

>but that's for you to roll with.

It's actually far worse for people to diagnose him as "mentally ill"- his rabid, apologetic and enabling fans included and in particular- than to offer the simple opinion that the guy is just an entitled asshole.

Ultimately I'll defer my opinion to that of the psychiatric professional who actually treats him, not the opinion of stans who give him passes and make excuses for him. People saying it's "obvious" that he's mentally ill are probably more in need of your attention than me saying he's just a dick.

  

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67. "you can't say it's bad for people to diagnose him"
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while saying that you can tell he's not mentally ill.

you are diagnosing him.

can't have it both ways, as much as you'd like to.

and the reason why you'd like to is.....

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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Cold Truth
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72. "Me: Observation based on and limited to readily known and observable fac..."
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Facts.

Others: Reading tea leaves and/or hanging on anything to justify their idols behavior.

I’m not his doctor and neither is anyone else in here.

>while saying that you can tell he's not mentally ill.

No, I’m just stating my opinion, same as everyone else… with one significant difference.

>you are diagnosing him.

Yes, I diagnosed him as being an asshole who thinks people greater than him owe him a seat at their table.

Because, you know, that’s been well documented for some time now.
My so-called diagnosis is limited to documented and readily observable facts. It’s not a diagnosis, it’s an observation. Anything further will require, you know, an actual doctor who actually sees him and forms an opinion based on knowledge gained from years of study and practice in conjunction with personal interaction with Ye.

I'll defer to a diagnosis from a professional if and when that comes out, thank you very much.

Anyone in here calling him “obviously mentally ill” is a big leap in diagnosis from what I’ve said.

And, as I said, people doing that are in far greater need of your cape this morning.

We’re done here.

  

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83. "bruh, it's what you're doing."
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there's no caping involved.

you either can or cannot diagnose dude.

(you can't, so don't)

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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Cold Truth
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85. "These are facts, Stanley."
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He demands phone calls from better rappers.
He demands financial bailouts from better businessmen.
He demands a performance from greater performers.
He demands a platform for his fashion ideas the fashion industry.
He demands radio play the artists he likes.

I'll say whatever the fuck I want about the whose entire persona is predicated on saying whatever the fuck he wants.


  

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102. "I know, you don't like him and you're upset."
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we've covered that.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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Cold Truth
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115. "0-2, Captain Save"
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69. "it's clear something changed."
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we can only logically work with what we're given

he was (relatively) normal at one point

he went through a lot publicly, now he isnt remotely as normal as he was

a person who's supposed to put on professional performances that ends up ranting and hospitalized, it's pretty simplistic to call them an asshole

  

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Cold Truth
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74. "Until he's actually diagnosed, he's a just an entitled brat."
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I'll defer to an actual diagnosis from an actual professional.

Until then I'm rolling with readily observable facts.

You guys can keep finding ways to justify him though. Lord knows that constant stream of validation and excuses doesn't contribute to this.

  

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89. "none of his behavior is justifiable, I find him insufferable"
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I just think there's a lot more going on than "he's being an asshole again"

  

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92. "It's certainly possible but I'm not sold. "
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I'd say everything about him up to this point warrants the scrutiny, eye rolling, and outright dismissals.

  

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125. "If I coughed and sneezed, you'd think I have a cold"
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not that I'm some jerk who's trying to spread germs.


>
>It's actually far worse for people to diagnose him as
>"mentally ill"- his rabid, apologetic and enabling fans
>included and in particular- than to offer the simple opinion
>that the guy is just an entitled asshole.
>
>Ultimately I'll defer my opinion to that of the psychiatric
>professional who actually treats him, not the opinion of stans
>who give him passes and make excuses for him. People saying
>it's "obvious" that he's mentally ill are probably more in
>need of your attention than me saying he's just a dick.

  

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127. "That's a terribly inept analogy"
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A better analogy would be "If I asked Mark Zuckerberg for a 58 million dollar loan and got mad because he either turned me down or ignored me, you wouldn't look at me like I was sick, you'd say I was an entitled asshole".

Oh wait... that's not an analogy.

That's real life.

No dice, Chino.

  

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129. "It's not. People aren't "just" egomaniacs or brats"
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It's all rooted in something psychological.

Mental illness doesn't remove personal responsibility. With my depression/anxiety, I may have symptoms that keep me from meeting deadlines, so my responsibility is to 1) seek treatment and/or 2) let me boss know and defer the tasks.

Mental illness is not an excuse. Mental illness can be treated. Being a "brat" is not a diagnosis and is not actionable.

  

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147. "brat" isn't a diagnosis? You don't say! Tell me more! "
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>It's all rooted in something psychological.

That's incredibly broad. Everything we say and do is rooted in something psychological.

>Mental illness doesn't remove personal responsibility. With my
>depression/anxiety, I may have symptoms that keep me from
>meeting deadlines, so my responsibility is to 1) seek
>treatment and/or 2) let me boss know and defer the tasks.

It's going to remove personal responsibility for him in the eyes of the people who have made excuse after excuse for him since the day he became a known quantity.

>Mental illness is not an excuse. Mental illness can be
>treated.

Treatment requires a willing participant, namely someone who accepts the diagnosis as something more than a laminated card to flash when they're being an asshole. It also requires accountability from those around him, not a bunch of yes men eager to remain in his good graces and enabling fans touting all of his antics as genius, next level art.

Who knows if Ye is really mentally ill or if he'll accept a diagnosis or if he'd be a willing participant in his own treatment. I don't and neither do you, but it's clear that if the answer was "no" to all of the above, people would react negatively to it and you'd be there to make excuses for him.

>Being a "brat" is not a diagnosis and is not
>actionable.

Uh... yeah. What else is news?
Why would I think that's a diagnosis?

I don't recall presenting it as a diagnosis. Ye's online bodyguard up above thinks that meets the criteria of a diagnosis, but I sure don't.

  

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185. "Dude... do you live in his house?"
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Are you in his family?

Otherwise, you can't claim to know any of this about him.


>Treatment requires a willing participant, namely someone who
>accepts the diagnosis as something more than a laminated card
>to flash when they're being an asshole. It also requires
>accountability from those around him, not a bunch of yes men
>eager to remain in his good graces and enabling fans touting
>all of his antics as genius, next level art.
>
>Who knows if Ye is really mentally ill or if he'll accept a
>diagnosis or if he'd be a willing participant in his own
>treatment. I don't and neither do you, but it's clear that if
>the answer was "no" to all of the above, people would react
>negatively to it and you'd be there to make excuses for him.

I don't make excuses for anyone, so that's not "clear". Again, mental illness isn't an excuse. In your weird quest to make sure Kanye doesn't get any sympathy or grace from the public, you are making statements about people w/ mental illness in general that are harmful (asshole, brat, etc). That's all I care to comment on. I won't comment any further.

  

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193. "Are you reacting to what I actually said or how what I said made"
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you feel?

>Are you in his family?
>
>Otherwise, you can't claim to know any of this about him.

Cool. I didn't make that claim though.

In fact you quoted me so I don't understand the point being made .

>>Treatment requires a willing participant, namely someone who
>>accepts the diagnosis as something more than a laminated
>card
>>to flash when they're being an asshole. It also requires
>>accountability from those around him, not a bunch of yes men
>>eager to remain in his good graces and enabling fans touting
>>all of his antics as genius, next level art.

^^^this isn't saying that I know he is or isn't any of the above. I'm responding directly and specifically to your comment. I do think a decade and a half of his antics does present some evidence that he's pretty resistant to personal accountability, but I've never claimed to know anything intimately. In fact, later in this very thread I said that anytime we talk about celebrities like this, it's purely speculative.

So again... not sure you're reacting to my actual words or to how it makes you feel.

>>Who knows if Ye is really mentally ill or if he'll accept a
>>diagnosis or if he'd be a willing participant in his own
>>treatment. I don't and neither do you, but it's clear that
>if
>>the answer was "no" to all of the above, people would react
>>negatively to it and you'd be there to make excuses for him.
>

>I don't make excuses for anyone, so that's not "clear". Again,
>mental illness isn't an excuse. In your weird quest to make
>sure Kanye doesn't get any sympathy or grace from the public,

lol what? My quest to make sure he doesn't get sympathy? Please elaborate on that and show your work. We're having a discussion from different points of view but nothing I've said can be remotely construed as "trying to make sure he doesn't get sympathy from the public.".

>you are making statements about people w/ mental illness in
>general that are harmful (asshole, brat, etc). That's all I
>care to comment on. I won't comment any further.

No, I'm making statements about KANYE WEST regarding a ridiculously long stream of documented words and actions and, unlike you, I am not diagnosing him as anything more than what his actions portray.

You seem to consider yourself a mental health professional who can diagnose people from afar. I don't.

  

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64. "RE: That goes both ways. "
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>>Mental illness as being the cause of the traits/
>>characteristics you're observing.
>
>Likewise, mental illness isn't the only possible reason for
>those characteristics.
>
>He doesn't have to be mentally ill to be an arrogant,
>entitled, self centered, self important asshole.

Mentally healthy people don't operate like this though. Some are just better and functioning than others. But I'd doubt the mental health of anyone with these traits.

>Seems like "affluenza" to me.
Kanye is not a white upper class kid who's been catered to his whole life.

>Unless you're willing to assume mental illness for everyone
>with those qualities i see no reason to shoot down the idea
>that he's probably not mentally ill.

If you have ever seen someone have a manic episode, and you look at that concert footage, you would suspect mental illness. That is, if you're not committed to dismissing Kanye because you don't like him.

>Personally I don't see anything he does that supports the
>mental illness conclusion. I see a lot to support the
>arrogant, egomaniacal asshole conclusion.

See above.

  

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76. "You can doubt their mental health all you want. "
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>Mentally healthy people don't operate like this though. Some
>are just better and functioning than others. But I'd doubt the
>mental health of anyone with these traits.

Cool, but that's not a diagnosis.

>>Seems like "affluenza" to me.
>Kanye is not a white upper class kid who's been catered to his
>whole life.

Do you understand why "affluenza" is in quotes?

Because it's some made up shit to justify the actions of rich and entitled people.

Sorry, but ye is rich and entitled.

>If you have ever seen someone have a manic episode, and you
>look at that concert footage, you would suspect mental
>illness. That is, if you're not committed to dismissing Kanye
>because you don't like him.

I had a manic girlfriend for four and a half years. I'm actually well acquainted with mania. I'm not a fan of using that as a crutch for your actions whether I like you or not. A lack of accountability doesn't help the afflicted get better.

Ye's a prick, whether you like him or not. You can justify him being a prick if you like, by all means. You're only contributing to the problem if you give him a pass for his actions.

>>Personally I don't see anything he does that supports the
>>mental illness conclusion. I see a lot to support the
>>arrogant, egomaniacal asshole conclusion.

>See above.

See: a professional diagnosis. I'll wait for that before I label him anything beyond an entitled prick.

  

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3. "A Medical Hospital Or A Mental Hospital"
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He needs to be in a mental ward, dude been had issues long time ago, and once he got with Kim, his mind was fucked up for reals .


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29. "Some Medical Hospital have spaces for mental issues"
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6. "I hope everyone gets to a place where this isn't something they ask"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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11. "THIS. Nm"
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Nm

  

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44. "Couldn't have said it better."
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166. "Was hoping folks in here matured"
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But they still doing the beating each other to the bottom w cynicism thing

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8. "the only thing I found funny"
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were the trump supporters on twitter suddenly trying to adopt him knowing they were probably the same one's mad about what I took the joke in my bottom sig from,

the "#kanyeisoverparty" nonsense is odd to me, hope dude gets to whatever he needs because more "30 Hours" and "Real Friends" are what I need.

TLOP wasn't the last, I'm still holding out for the one better than Late Registration/Graduation/MBDTF

PEACE LOVE and MONEY

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9. "Sources saying he had to be restrained?"
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Seems reasonable to conclude his admittance was not voluntary. That's some pretty serious shit if true.

  

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12. "Nevermind...."
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apparently he was handcuffed in the ambulance which is some sort of procedural rule and not evidence that he was admitted involuntarily.

  

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15. "people still think this is an act?"
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every time he does something crazy his fans come out and say he is acting. Kanye being Kanye. He is playing the long con. Like seriously? This guy has mental health issues. People will deny it until he says it. Then when he acknowledges it they will say he is faking it again. I dont understand people.

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20. "right. "
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112. "ppl still trust their enemy to inform them truthfully?"
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16. "RE: Yeezy in the hospital: publicity stunt or nah?"
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Sounds like a near 40 year old man on tour, in the eyes of the world at nearly every waking moment, with two young kids, a wife, little familiarity with his past, at near constant travel around the planet, working odd hours ... would be wild prone to the psychological effects of sleep deprivation. Ye owes me nothing. I hope he gets whatever help he needs
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A recently released report by the US Senate Select Committee on Intelligence focused on the CIA’s detention and interrogation program following the 9/11 terrorist attacks. According to the report, among the “enhanced interrogation techniques” used in this program was sleep deprivation:

“Sleep deprivation involved keeping detainees awake for up to 180 hours, usually standing or in stress positions, at time with their hands shackled above their heads. At least five detainees experienced disturbing hallucinations during prolonged sleep deprivation and, in at least two of those cases, the CIA nonetheless continued the sleep deprivation.”

Since the release of the report, Americans have debated whether or not the methods used by the CIA can be properly called “torture.” I don’t know about the other methods, but I do know that the methods of sleep deprivation reportedly used are clearly acts of torture. In fact, prolonged sleep deprivation is an especially insidious form of torture because it attacks the deep biological functions at the core of a person’s mental and physical health. It is less overtly violent than cutting off someone’s finger, but it can be far more damaging and painful if pushed to extremes.


Why is this? Start with the fact that sleep is a basic biological necessity for all humans, indeed for all creatures on the planet. There is some natural variability and flexibility in the sleep cycle, hence people can go 24 or more hours without sleep in the right circumstances, without any lasting harm other than additional “rebound” sleep the next time they are able to sleep normally. However, if a person is deprived of sleep for longer than that, several mental and physical problems begin to develop.

The first signs of sleep deprivation are unpleasant feelings of fatigue, irritability, and difficulties concentrating. Then come problems with reading and speaking clearly, poor judgment, lower body temperature, and a considerable increase in appetite. If the deprivation continues, the worsening effects include disorientation, visual misperceptions, apathy, severe lethargy, and social withdrawal.


For ethical reasons, professional researchers have never pushed the deprivation process beyond this point with human subjects. Researchers have used animals for more extreme experiments, and the inevitable result is that prolonged sleep deprivation will eventually kill a creature. Various behavioral impairments accumulate along the way as the deprivation continues, but if the experiment is pushed far enough the final result is always a widespread physiological failure leading to death. The cumulative effects of sleep deprivation go beyond the loss of this or that specific function to a precipitous, ultimately fatal decline in all functions.

Part of the reason for this calamitous breakdown is that during sleep the immune system performs a host of vital regenerative functions that are absolutely necessary for a healthy mind and body in waking life. When a person is deprived of sleep, the immune system becomes unable to perform these functions. The negative effects become much more intense when people are already sick, injured, or traumatized. Whatever bodily damage they have suffered will not heal as fast. Whatever pain they are feeling will get worse. Whatever new bodily damage threatens them will be harder to defend against.

Forcibly depriving a person of sleep is a profound assault on the entire biological system at the foundation of that person’s mind and body.

Some have argued that torture, although morally reprehensible, may in some cases be worth it if the information gained helps to save innocent American lives.

Again, that may or may not be true with other torture methods, but it is almost certainly false in cases using sleep deprivation. One of the first symptoms of sleep deprivation in humans is a disordering of thought and bursts of irrationality. Beyond 24 hours of deprivation people suffer huge drops in cognitive functions like accurate memory, coherent speech, and social competence. Eventually the victims suffer hallucinations and a total break with reality.

Whatever sounds come out of people’s mouths at that point, whatever words they may seem to be saying, have to count as the least reliable kind of information one could possibly conceive. A mind tortured to that extremity will not provide anything that can be trusted as relevant to the real world. Even if the person really knew some vital bit of information (e.g., the location of a ticking time bomb), prolonged sleep deprivation will make it less likely the person could accurately and meaningfully communicate that information. Beyond a certain point the sleep deprived individual can no longer maintain enough cognitive coherence to say anything useful to anyone.


Source:
Extreme sleep deprivation of the kind reportedly practiced by the CIA is torture, by any reasonable definition of the term. Furthermore, it is probably an especially useless form of torture, since the likelihood of gaining “actionable intelligence” from people will diminish the longer they are deprived of sleep.


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17. "Rhymefest said a while ago that he's wilding and he needs help"
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and he removed himself from the Pablo sessions.

  

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19. "he canceled the rest of his tour dates"
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21. "I bet losing his mom is still messing with him"
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When people are obsessed with fame it's real easy to lose sight of the simple things

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22. "Kim gets robbed= staged. Kanye hospital = staged"
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Like, there's this weird undercurrent of meanness where people treat the Kardasians as disposable.

"BUT REG, THEY ARE REALITY TV SHOW STARS. THEY ARE RICH, FUCK EM"

But they still people with kids and problems, etc. Niggas may be dysfunctional for pay, but don't be mad because they found a way to monetize their families fucked up-ness and the most you get is a free playstation (PS2 btw) from your cousin Jo-Jo.

  

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23. "When your entire life revolves around seeking attention...."
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it's bound to happen.


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25. "People kill me with this shit"
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They monetize EVERYTHING but we are supposed to know when it's real and when it's a stunt?

Ionno if it's crazier to treat them like the entertainers they are or to show "compassion" for them while the giggle and take in the dough.

It's fucked up but it's the price you pay for fame. These folks are disposable. It's fucked up to say it but it's like sports. There will always be someone to replace them for our entertainment.

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28. "What are these fake 'stunts' tho"
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Fat boy got married and a baby with old girl.
Bruce is still wearing those dresses.
Swift was lying her ass off.
Etc.

Id understand if there was a bunch of crazy shenanigans that were 'fake' but unless the Kardashian show changed from when I watched a handful of episodes years ago it was the same 'someone is doing something rich people do, and the other person doesnt like it, but we all get along anyway' bullshit.

While reality tv, this wasn't 'Flavor of Love' where it was all intentional setups.

AGAIN; I could be totally wrong since I dont watch the show like that. But if it's just the same generic show the doubt of all these happenings is deeper then what people want to admit.

  

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30. "people conflate courting paparazzi with publicity stunts"
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they think making sure cameras are on you when you step out means the rest of your life cant suffer from real human trauma

  

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46. "."
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33. "the only thing that sticks in my memory is old dude on the Nets"
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but a. that was years ago
and b. I don't think that was as "staged" as people like to pretend (note: I don't know anything about it)

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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36. "I call them stunts... they really happen"
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Are they genuine? I don't know or care...

Celebrities are like action movies...

I'm here for the entertainment. Don't give a shit if it's real or not. I don't know them. My opinion on them has no effect on my life or theirs... or yours.

We just talking about what's being reported IN THE NEWS.

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42. "Name the stunts. We just got one"
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38. "Ummm, Kim's last marriage. "
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That's kind of a biggie.



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41. "These niggas know..."
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They just playing dumb cause they don't want to admit they know this much about this family.

It's damn near impossible not to...

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47. "I'll never understand why anyone thinks that was fake."
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It's so weird to me.

  

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54. "It might have to do with Kris saying it was a fraud to boost her show"
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ratings.

But I guess y'all know what's in her heart better than he does.




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99. "You can keep your snark."
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I've no dog in the fight. But I didn't know that Kris (Kardashian?) that it was all a stunt to boost the show's ratings...

  

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52. "if you think that was a stunt, I guess?"
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it seemed like what it was -- they rushed into things, probably never would've gotten married except it was too big of a spectacle to back out, realized it was a mistake, got out of it ASAP.

if it were a "stunt" it would've been better executed, that was just some shit that happened

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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110. "Kris Humphries said it was fake"
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The nigga who married her AND her former publicist said it was fake.

But maybe they are just haters too.

..and why would a stunt be better executed? That doesn't make sense. She can't act, he damn sure can't act so it's pretty easy to fuck it up plus it was all paid for by ET and LP the other hangers on who wanted to advertise so yeah....

It was a stunt.

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111. "I guess you keep up with kris humphries interviews"
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I don't.

I have no idea who any of their publicists are.

but you do.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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119. "Lame I got internet access and google. Took me 10 seconds to "
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google what Kris Humphries thought of their marriage. I've never seen an episode of their show.

Just two post up you are given us your breakdown of what happened in their relationship and now you want to act above it all. SMH.




>I don't.
>
>I have no idea who any of their publicists are.
>
>but you do.
>
>www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at


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135. "Lmao... it's how he says he was wrong. "
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139. "they got married and got divorced quickly"
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these are facts that I'm aware of.

but no, I don't think I've ever seen a kris humphries interview, or heard dude speak.

that's not my life.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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130. "I just googled kris and fake wedding and it popped up. "
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Take 2 and pass that L to ole boy soulpsycho... lol

Ole "I don't follow them so I don't really know much besides the guy she married from the Nets" ass nigga.

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131. "so, you just now googled it, but you were citing it already"
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if y'all don't want to admit that you watch the show and pay attention that's cool, but you don't have to lie to me.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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137. "Your spin game is atrocious"
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138. "there's nothing to spin fam, y'all cite kardashian history like bile ver..."
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I don't know why you feel bad about knowing it so deeply, I'm not here to shame you for it.

I just don't know it like y'all know it.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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142. "Yeah..."
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I got curious and googled as well... you need to up-level your reading comprehension skills. I saw nothing that said the marriage was fake. But whatever... LOL

  

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143. "I'm sure there's a baller alert headline somewhere that says it"
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31. "even if this stuff were true"
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I personally find value in not letting what the kardashians do define how I respond to them or anyone else.



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34. "Where do you spend that value? "
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Cause you still in here bruh... talking about not talking about it.

I've never seen one full episode but numbers me saying "I don't really know anything about them"...

is a gotdamn lie

Y'all in here on some "that one dude... the fat guy, ole girl as the baby"

Niggas stfu lol...

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51. "I'm not sure what's confusing to you?"
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40. "That's great dude. I am happy for you. "
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>I personally find value in not letting what the kardashians
>do define how I respond to them or anyone else.
>
>
>
>www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at


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57. "see how positivity spreads?"
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45. "This. Right. Here. "
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165. "Yep"
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24. "Oh, that's Kanye just being Kanye."
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TKF.


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26. "that's Kanye fans being Kanye fans"
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ASN

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27. "ASN?"
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37. "Artsy Smartsy Niggas"
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32. "wow some of yall are miserable people to even ask this."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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78. "& some of y'all are too vulnerable not to."
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35. "someone in the other thread said the anniversary.."
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of his mother's funeral was recent

i googled to check and found this:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-495389/Heartbroken-Kanye-West-mourns-mother-funeral-attended-1-000-people.html

which shows that the anniversary is today.

it is pretty obvious that kanye feels he played a role in his mom's death and has worked ever since to be extremely successful to make her death not to be in vain

between that, the holidays coming up, having two kids that won't know his mother, kim robbery, probably some sleep deprivation and self medicating, and the st pablo tour which literally is set up for fans to appear to be worshipping him the entire time....

there is no surprise to me that he is cracking publicly right now

i just hope there are people around him to really force him to get help

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it's doing something arduous and
creating something of value and then
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39. "Yup, I said the same thing in another thread"
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I could see if he lost his mom of natural causes or in an accident but it was plastic surgery.

Some shit she prolly wouldn't have done if he wasn't famous.



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48. "you're all over nigga...lol"
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77. "chill, Trin...lol"
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.

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93. "Let her get it all out. "
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50. "It might be. It might not. I would guess money issues more than"
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anything else.


Dude has been complaining for a while about money issues. Now he is complaining about not getting airplay which is more money problems.


Canceling the tour has to be a huge economic hit.

His mother's death might compound it but I am sure he is feeling the heat of creditors right about now.


>of his mother's funeral was recent
>
>i googled to check and found this:
>
>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-495389/Heartbroken-Kanye-West-mourns-mother-funeral-attended-1-000-people.html
>
>which shows that the anniversary is today.
>
>it is pretty obvious that kanye feels he played a role in his
>mom's death and has worked ever since to be extremely
>successful to make her death not to be in vain
>
>between that, the holidays coming up, having two kids that
>won't know his mother, kim robbery, probably some sleep
>deprivation and self medicating, and the st pablo tour which
>literally is set up for fans to appear to be worshipping him
>the entire time....
>
>there is no surprise to me that he is cracking publicly right
>now
>
>i just hope there are people around him to really force him to
>get help
>
>


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62. "what are you talking about"
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why do you think kanye is having $ issues? do you know his accountant?

  

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94. "They believe Ye when it serves their agenda"
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53. "i'm sure these are all factors but"
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he's been acting funny for a while now. instead of people calling him out on it they just call him a genius.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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59. "THE MOTHER DYING WAS A PUBLICITY STUNT"
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70. "That was too much"
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He said over anything else like the anniversary of his mothers death is not bigger than money problems.

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43. "Kanye's Fame indirectly killed his mother"
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There would have been no plastic surgery if YE wasn't rich and famous. That has got to be a heavy burden to bare.

It would drive anyone insane.

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63. "What? Dog? Really?"
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96. "My mom (and sister) got plastic surgery and we're not rich or famous."
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I know about a dozen women (through my sister) who have had plastic surgery and none are rich or famous.
Lipo
BBL
Mommy makeovers
Lap Bands/Gastric Bypass
Breast Implants
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They are getting it all!!!

  

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202. "Did they do so against strict doctor order's not to?"
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bc that's what happened in this case

they literally circumvented doctor's orders by getting the procedure outside the country...and literally the risks the original doctor's orders listed is what happened

it's pretty cut and dry

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49. "full OJ mode upcoming... dont say i didnt tell yall already"
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55. "^^^^"
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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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56. "probably not.. but you can't possibly fault people for thinking it might..."
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58. ""f--k being cool""
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he clearly feels he played a role in losing his mom. the rant makes sense now.

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60. " I hope Kanye gets to a place where this isn't something people ask."
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#Also

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65. "can't change how other people react. "
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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80. "no doubt bro. "
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I say that as an empathetic supporter.

I think he's as close to a regular-ass-nxgga as 'we' are going to get, given how long he's been in the industry, and how deeply entrenched he is - whether 'we' want him, or accept that, is debatable.

who knows the real him, but him? What has he been through? what would all that do to ME, if those were my circumstances?

we're all voyeurs to these artists pain.

I just sigh and press play.

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90. "It's always pure speculation with celebrities. "
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That's the nature of discussing people we only "know" through interviews and soundbytes.

With someone as consistently outspoken as Ye, this is the bed he's made. It's also, I think, the bed his die hard fans have helped him into.

He's got legions of apologists who either make excuses for his antics or downplay it as some sort of "genius". His fans have helped fuel this particular fire.

Marrying the Kim K of all people only adds to the antics. Couple that with a grating personality it's not at all surprising that people not only react negatively to him, but it's perfectly fair to question the sincerity of dramatic occurrences within a family whose life is literally a television show.

I'll say that again: their life is literally a television show.

Most of us accept that "reality" tv is heavily scripted.
Why then is it unreasonable to question where the line moves from scripted reality to real life, or whether or not some of the real life aspects are being played up for dramatic effect?

Everything about his begs this kind of scrutiny.

  

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66. "he's seriously hurting and stressed. hope he gets the help he needs"
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let's not forget his recently revealed "unreleased" video in which he basically lists a string of mental illnesses symptoms:

https://vimeo.com/170384914

and his "lexapro" line from "fml" off pablo: https://youtu.be/SMQP7QPN0bk?t=1m51s

  

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81. "First time seeing this. "
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>let's not forget his recently revealed "unreleased" video in
>which he basically lists a string of mental illnesses
>symptoms:
>
>https://vimeo.com/170384914


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98. "Me too"
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First time hearing the song too.

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68. "He's really in need o serious validation from people that he loves "
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105. "well that'd be HIMSELF, no? "
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maybe validation from people who love HIM...unconditionally at that; which is a rather large order..can I have mine TO GO?

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71. "RE: Yeezy in the hospital: publicity stunt or nah?"
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The cynic in me wonders if a medical excuse for the cancellation of the rest of the tour lessens the financial hit that Kanye Inc. has to take.

Just wondering since the hospitalization was announced after the tour cancellation was..

  

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75. "That's not even being a cynic. That's good business practice. "
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Canceling that tour is a big deal and has to have huge financial costs.

The only thing that could possibly mitigate that is an exception in his contract with promoters that allows him to cancel the tour for medical reasons.

Checking into a hospital after canceling the tour is about as necessary as going straight to the hospital after a car accident.




>The cynic in me wonders if a medical excuse for the
>cancellation of the rest of the tour lessens the financial hit
>that Kanye Inc. has to take.
>
>Just wondering since the hospitalization was announced after
>the tour cancellation was..


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79. "RE: Yeezy in the hospital: publicity stunt or nah?"
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What hit?

This is a LiveNation tour not a Kanye INC tour... more than likely he was paid upfront like most big livenation deals...

Ye was 5150'd that aint no shit to play with.. nothing to take lightly.. he loses rights (though he is rich) because of it and that shit just aint a joke or a stunt.

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82. "I don't see how that makes it better. Sounds like it makes it worst. "
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>What hit?
>
>This is a LiveNation tour not a Kanye INC tour... more than
>likely he was paid upfront like most big livenation deals...


If he was paid upfront and didn't fulfill his obligation than he would owe Livenation a gang of money.



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73. "Faking mental health issues seems like seriously slippery slope"
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I remember an episode of This American Life where a British teen faked insanity to get out of a prison sentence but then couldn't prove his sanity to get out of the mental health ward. The more he tried to seem sane, the more the doctors thought he was delusional or trying to lie to them.

You may mess around and find out you actually are insane lol.

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84. "I wouldn't even say "faking it". More like embracing it. "
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86. "My guess is that he had to do it or insurance wouldn't pay"
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The cost of cancelling the tour will be enormous. He has to have a real reason, or his insurers will say fuck you, you pay it. I'm betting that Kris Jenner got him on this right quick.

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88. "^^^^ding ding ding "
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87. "so many people in here know Kanye personally. thats whats up"
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101. "Same people who knew Hillary was gonnna win"
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*drops mic*

*MJ Thriller laugh*

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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103. "Trying not to be the 'i told you so' guy"
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But I specifically predicted that Kanye would support Trump. I also said that the emergence of public personas like Charlie Sheen and Kanye and the inexplicable allure they seem to hold over otherwise rational people set the stage for Trump's unprecedented campaign and what's partly being referred to as 'post-truth' now. The public seems to have an irregular appetite for wrestling-heel social interactions. It's some sort of perverse reaction to a deep-seated resentment of social institutions that are seen to be much less valuable when you don't have a job.

I really don't think I'm reading too much into this. If someone had behaved publically like kanye or Charlie Sheen in 1990 their career would be over. Same thing with a politician who behaved like Trump. Narcissism has taken over our culture and is 'in' right now. Sincerity is boring and cowardly. Truth is irrelevant. Greed is fun. Compassion is pretentious.

  

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107. "You called it fam"
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and your theory on narcissism is spot on.

I read somewhere that Trump spent a nice chunk on social media targeting voters too.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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167. "damn....good observation"
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pretty spot on.

  

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"Doesn't that go for the "How Dare you Question Them" People as well?"


  

          


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120. "Doesn't that go for the "How Dare you Question Them" People as well?"
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136. "no, not actually. "
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but hey, when it comes to mental health who couldn't use a little more stigma and doubt, amirite?



what if, in general, when someone says they're dealing with mental illness.....we just let them deal with it?

MIND BLOWING

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91. "Shit, I thought you couldn't get more cynical than me."
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95. "sounds like it could easily be all of the above"
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97. "^^^I can agree with this. "
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100. "For the record, I toldjall ninjaz YEARS AGO dis ninja Ye Crazy!"
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Sun BEEN on one from jump street.


Dude been redlining the craydometer for years.
Ya'll gotta recalibrate ya'lls craydar parameters.



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104. "I asked because I thought it was a storyline for the show "
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On some "Just when Kim thought it was safe to come back to public life THIS HAPPENS"

Unlike y'all I don't put anything past Mama Kardashian plus I could see Kanye going along with it if it means more E! money for a crazy season plotwise means less debt for him.

Janey had a good point re maybe doing it to get tour insurance to cover the losses

I don't doubt he's hurt over the anniversary of his mom passing but I also don't see why people are shocked that someone associated with a family who craves attention and a momager who sold her own kid's sex tape might be faking a situation. #KanyeShrug

  

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109. "Notice how those people claim they don't know shit about the show"
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or the family but can tell all the plot twist and shit.

They know this question fits due to the Kardashian Klans thirst for social media dominance.

We will get updates and photos of them looking glamorous while visiting the hospital and shit.

Why would anyone trust them.

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113. "bruh, you the one who knows all their publicists and shit"
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that's not a normal level of awareness.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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"so like, where do you guys cash these "I'm a kanye skeptic" checks?"


          

does the money direct deposit, or do you have to wait?

like, what's in it for you?

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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116. "At the same local Save-A-Thot you deposit yours, I assume"
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132. "unfortunately, there's no check for keeping your mouth shut"
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about people you don't know about.

it's a low margin business but the benefits are good

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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148. "There does seem to be a check for defending people you don't"
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>know about.
>
>it's a low margin business but the benefits are good

  

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151. "who am I defending?"
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152. "Don't be stupid. "
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153. "that's one thing you can say. try again."
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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154. "Don't be stupid, troll. "
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155. "I guess you can't find the name. *shrug*"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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156. "Don't be stupid, you stupid troll. "
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157. "you'll figure it out if you try"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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106. "That Kardashian pussy is a mf, see Odom, Lamar..."
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________________________________________
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117. "it probably is probably kim's fault. idk why i didn't see it sooner"
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thanks for showing me the light

  

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118. "double post"
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oops

  

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121. "Lamar and Ye were both headcases before joining the KKK"
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They were both headed more or less the same direction they wound up in after gaining membership.

  

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123. "Co-relation, not causation. Agreed. "
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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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108. "some shit really is bullet-proof. mental illness. kid's sickness..."
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trying to think of some other ones but yeah.

some of you niggas need compassion-injections.

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114. "***plays Last Call on repeat*** b4 the benzodiazepines"
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yo brains prolly scrambled f'real


as long as he apologize for that Trump bs(which I think he will)

I'm still rockin wit the boy

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149. "Let's hope"
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>as long as he apologize for that Trump bs(which I think he
>will)

And I hope he gets the rest he needs.


Happy 50th D’Angelo: https://chrisp.bandcamp.com/track/d-50

  

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122. "I still contend that he's likely to off himself to bolster his legacy"
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He wants to be a legend so badly I would not be shocked if he died under "suspicious circumstances" after completing like five albums worth of material just to make sure he wound up getting the sort of hero worship attained by the likes of Elvis, Kurt, Pac, Big, or MJ.

  

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124. "The non-skeptical folks should call in "mentallly exhausted" to work "
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tomorrow and see how that goes down.


But seriously. Is "exhaustion" or "mentally exhaustion" a condition that is available to anyone other than rich and famous folks?

Real question and not a joke. Has anybody ever heard the regular people use this?



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126. "had to call in sick earlier this year after sleeping 9 hours over 5 days"
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i didn't specifically cite "exhaustion" but i'm fairly certain that's what exhaustion is

  

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128. "I bet these same people hate the fuck out of Gweneth "
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133. "uh, that's definitely a thing. "
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even at my shittiest full time job you could do that.



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134. "I've taken personal days because I felt like I was about to get sick"
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and I wouldn't have been productive anyways.

  

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140. "since i work for sensible people my boss would prob come to my house"
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to make sure i was alright and see if theres anything i needed.

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141. "Ehh, if we are playing the 'its all hollywood smoke/mirrors'"
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'exhaustion' is commonly used an as excuse for substance abuse in the land of glitter.

Not just there, a co-worker got into hard drugs and that was the official corporate line on the chance they gave him to dry out.

  

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144. "ummm. sorry your job's time off allowance is trash?"
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I get 120 vacation hours, 24 sick hours and 40 hours jury duty a year

meaning I can use 15 whole days personal time or up to 3 days if Im feeling exhausted

I've worked starting at 5-5:30 AM since January so I definitely pinch from those hours if I was out late the night before or I just dont want to be bothered

but all of that aside, mental exhaustion is a rich celebrity/corporate rat race/human problem all the same

  

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146. "I take a few Mental Health days per year"
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______________________________

They're bureaucrats! I don't respect them.(c)Rick Sanchez

  

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150. "Yeah lots of folks at my work take "mental health days""
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I'm glad that it's acceptable at my work. Burnout is real.


Happy 50th D’Angelo: https://chrisp.bandcamp.com/track/d-50

  

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158. "I take mental health days but I don't say that to my boss lol"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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180. "I think Kanye is a dipshit, but, yeah, I've told my boss "I need a day""
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Did I check myself into a hospital or use it as an excuse for a debacle of a rant and nuking millions in business revenue, fucking over partners in the process? No.

But, yes, I've walked into my bosses office before (one time) and said "this shit is killing me. I'm out tomorrow".

  

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201. "You've never heard of anyone on leave for "stress"?"
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Mental illness is physical illness.

It's 2016.

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205. "Ninja folks been taking days off for stress long before they were"
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calling it Mental Health days.

Nothing unusual or new about that.


I am talking about checking into a hospital or rehab because of "exhaustion".


I understand this woman needed time off from exhaustion.

https://www.rt.com/usa/183720-four-jobs-car-nap/

Not sure how that works for other people not working 2 or 3 jobs or working around the clock.





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145. "attention whore shit"
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and if he is legit sick i still can't say I care.
i don't wish bad on the guy or anything, but there are too many people dealing with far with far worse who don't behave like entitled assholes for me to muster up a couple drops of sympathy, or feel some kind of obligation to give him the benefit of the doubt

  

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159. "Apparently a 5150 was invoked."
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So him being handcuffed in the ambulance only happens if a 5150 is called for by a medical professional. Doesn't necessarily mean he went against his will...but it DOES mean that he WOULD have gone against his will if he refused.

  

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160. "how many have/hold mics in their face for a living? "
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>and if he is legit sick i still can't say I care.
>i don't wish bad on the guy or anything, but there are too
>many people dealing with far with far worse who don't behave
>like entitled assholes for me to muster up a couple drops of
>sympathy, or feel some kind of obligation to give him the
>benefit of the doubt

give ppl a platform and you'd be surprised

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168. "*tiny violin motion*"
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169. "^^^^guerrilla monsoon rap"
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161. "* *Do The Right Thing, OKP* *"
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Ya'll ninjaz still fuckin' around like shit sweet,....

Like ol'boy ain't gonna spray mental doo-doo pellets errywhere....

Keep fuckin' around ya'll...



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162. "RE: * *Do The Right Thing, OKP* *"
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>Ya'll ninjaz still fuckin' around like shit sweet,....
>
>Like ol'boy ain't gonna spray mental doo-doo pellets
>errywhere....
>
>Keep fuckin' around ya'll...

lol

  

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163. "lol"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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164. "Its sad that this is all you got going for you. This is your identity he..."
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Just like your exiled buddies, your only relevance to poo is this lil gimmick here. When nobody pays attention to your wack asses you come with this bullshit.

  

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170. "And BOOM goes the dynamite "
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http://m.tmz.com/#article/2016/11/23/kanye-west-insurance-money/

  

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171. "are you implying having insurance means he's faking mental illness?"
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173. "maybe... lol"
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I think that's why she made the post.



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175. "all artists get insured for a tour..its standard practice"
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172. "so help me understand this conspiracy theory"
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so the thought is that kanye wanted to get out of the second leg of the tour....

so him and kris jenner masterminded the plan for him to rant at both of his san jose and sacramento shows to feign mental issues

then cancel the remaining leg of the tour...

then send kanye to the hospital for these mental issues so that insurance kicks in?

that is the theory?

even though we have all seen signs that kanye has been spiraling out of control and presenting signs of mental illness for awhile now. and not to mention that all of this is happening around the anniversary of his mother's death?

that is where we are?

i mean i know that the entertainment biz has a lot of smoke and mirrors and all but i honestly don't believe this is one of them.
i may be proven wrong in the long run but i really think kanye is having a mental breakdown and is probably bipolar.

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it's doing something arduous and
creating something of value and then
being able to reflect on the fruits of your labor

  

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176. "I have no idea what he is but my theory leans towards exhaustion "
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and his lawyers were like "nah, exhaustion isn't covered by insurance, you gotta go full mental to get the payout"

If he didn't have that insurance does this rant happen? Ionno...

If it did I would be convinced. When you still make all your money while being crazy it definitely makes for a great conspiracy.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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182. "if he is bipolar and having a manic episode...."
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then he would likely not be sleeping properly and become exhausted

the key to happiness is not being rich;
it's doing something arduous and
creating something of value and then
being able to reflect on the fruits of your labor

  

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186. "most of those producers and artist rarely sleep "
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Pretty sure they said Dilla's health declined because he made beats all day and didn't eat.

I'm not a doctor so I have no idea...

But it's sad how quick people are to call him crazy.

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194. "that's true but i don't get the comparison"
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so because many other producers are sleep deprived that means it's not possible for kanye to be having a manic episode?

i am not saying kanye is definitely mentally ill but he has been displaying symptoms of both manic bipolar episodes and narcissistic personality disorder for awhile now.

that doesn't take away from his accomplishments in my eyes. honestly it probably has helped him in ways to be able to accomplish what he has.

the key to happiness is not being rich;
it's doing something arduous and
creating something of value and then
being able to reflect on the fruits of your labor

  

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196. "what's wrong with being crazy though...."
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>But it's sad how quick people are to call him crazy.


...and as much as I love and respect Dave Chapelle...that clip with him saying calling someone crazy is dismissive kinda rubs me wrong..

It ties into the whole stigma attached to mental health...even mental health 'advocates' carry this bias..they'll admit to depression and anxiety...but STILL shy away from labels like schizophrenia, psychosis, bipolar disorder...Same ones crying against pastors praying away mental illness..
Read an article in ebony few days back by some therapist blaming Kanye's conditions on his mom's passing and stress etc...
The report said he was psychotic...anybody who's studied psychiatry/psychology knows that people who have psychotic breaks tend to already have a predisposition.

Do i think kanye is schizophrenic or bipolar? i don't know.
From my albeit limited experience in the field...what we're seeing isn't simply due to exhaustion or kardashian pussy or hollywood....there's something deeper at play...and i long for a day when we no longer have to skirt around the issue

  

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198. "People said Dave was crazy so I see why it rubs him the wrong way"
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I saw him perform at U of Kentucky in 2005 right after he got back from Africa and he was pissed. Basically said the media will shit on you the moment you stop doing what they want.

I think Ye not doing another college album makes people think he is crazy
Doing Yeezus means he is crazy
Talking shit about W (which we loved) made him crazy to white folk.
Talking shit about Swift means he is crazy

Maybe Obama is right tho... he said he was an ass...

To me... I think all these "crazy" moments have elevated his star power.

Ionno if he is crazy but to me it definitely seems dismissive or like fake compassion to diagnose him as crazy.

We have no idea what Kanye is besides a talented artist who thinks he is the best thing on earth. Which is no different than Floyd Mayweather or other athletes who think the world revolves around them.

I definitely think you have to be slightly off to want fame. It's addictive, it's like a drug. When other people start getting more shine you do "crazy" shit to get the cameras back.

Since Dave has been labeled crazy and lives in that world I think he prolly has a better grasp of how the average person can easily dismiss you mental well being at the end of the day... most people want a show and if they don't get it? Well... that artist must be crazy.



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200. "It will be simply solve, his insurance company will require independent"
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medical experts to diagnose him.


I'm with legs. Doesn't take a conspiracy to see that if things weren't going well for Kanye on the tour for whatever reasons. Not feeling it. partying to hard, shows not going well. Whatever.

At any rate any business advisor or lawyer worth their retainer would have to tell him that if he had a medical emergency he might be able to get out of his contractual obligation. But such a medical emergency would have to include checking into a hospital.


If I am rear ended and start screaming "my neck and my back", I will go to the hospital and complain about my neck and my back. Doesn't mean I had a long con that involved slowing down in front of you. It means I took advantage of the situation that presented itself to me.


I don't think the rants are outside the realm of the rants that he has been given so I don't think he decided to start doing rants as part of a long con. But I think everyone of his advisors recognised that the rants would only help in building the case that he is having a mental health issues.


Anyway, there is so much money on the line you can bet the insurance companies will contest it. So we might get the truth. or maybe not.

But this will ruin his ability to get future tours insured.

>then he would likely not be sleeping properly and become
>exhausted


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204. "Yeah, this isn't a long con. "
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I think he wanted to quit or take a few days off and his people were like "well, if you really want/need to quit and protect your pockets you need to do XYZ"

What we forget is Ye has a lot of people depending on him. He can't just quit.

I don't know about being bi-polar but I wonder if the entertainment industry and bi polar disorder are linked in some way. Seems like a lot of actors and artist suffer from it and I think it's because their stage/acting persona bleeds into their regular life.

Once you change your name and get paid insane amounts for it it's prolly real easy to slip into that shit full time.

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181. "it's the longest con of all time"
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174. "i think he was mentally ill long before this tour"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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177. "it seems likely in retrospect"
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184. "Entitled, spoiled brat... "
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I think CT is spot on. I'm a cynic tho so don't mind me.

I think Kanye has always been a narcissist and an asshole. He admitted as much early on in his career. Having nervous breakdowns "man these niggas better than me?"

This is definitely how some artist win in that industry because you have to believe you are the shit.

I know a nigga just like this. Industry cat. Used to suck his own dick all damn day. He was the greatest and he made it using that mentality. He was also depressed a lot. Even when he won he felt like he lost because someone else always had more or had a hot song.

Ionno if that's being mentally ill or just obsessed with winning.

These type of people create enemies and haters in their mind to drive them. Not sure if it's bi polar or just being a narcissistic asshole. I guess you can be both but I think it's the latter.

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188. "RE: Entitled, spoiled brat... "
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>I think Kanye has always been a narcissist and an asshole.

Narcissism is a personality disorder, i.e. a form of mental illness.

>He admitted as much early on in his career. Having nervous
>breakdowns "man these niggas better than me?"
>
>This is definitely how some artist win in that industry
>because you have to believe you are the shit.

A nervous breakdown is DEFINITELY a symptom of mental illness. You can be envious and ambitious without having a breakdown.

>I know a nigga just like this. Industry cat. Used to suck his
>own dick all damn day. He was the greatest and he made it
>using that mentality. He was also depressed a lot. Even when
>he won he felt like he lost because someone else always had
>more or had a hot song.
>
>Ionno if that's being mentally ill or just obsessed with
>winning.

Yes, that's a symptom of depression. Always seeing the negative.

>These type of people create enemies and haters in their mind
>to drive them. Not sure if it's bi polar or just being a
>narcissistic asshole. I guess you can be both but I think it's
>the latter.

As I said to CT above, people aren't "just" assholes, narcissists, etc, the same way people aren't just obese. There is a physical/ psychological cause.

You don't have to have compassion for him, and I don't get why so many people in this post are trying to keep others from having compassion for him, but his "asshole" behavior is a symptom of unwellness.

  

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189. "this."
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the key to happiness is not being rich;
it's doing something arduous and
creating something of value and then
being able to reflect on the fruits of your labor

  

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190. "Thanks for the info"
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In that case I guess he is mental.

I will admit I see mental illness as a defense mechanism in this thread. Maybe it's because he is wealthy.

I don't want anything bad to happen to Ye but I have a hard time accepting this for obvious reasons.

It's hard for me to trust his actions.

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191. "No prob. I've been pondering why people are resistant to "
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Kanye being mentally ill, and I think people conflate mental illness with insanity, which can get you off for murder. You can be mentally ill and sane i.e. know exactly what you're doing and why it's wrong.

Mental Illness does not remove personal responsibility. It can, however, prevent people from fulfilling obligations, such as a huge arena tour.

  

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192. "Who is trying to prevent anyone from having compassion?"
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In fact, the only people trying to "prevent" or argue down anything are the ones defending him and/or relegating his behavior entirely to mental illness.

  

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178. "Someone used their insurance policy? Call Oliver Stone."
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There are dozens of us! Dozens!

  

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179. "i do like the use of boom goes the dynamite"
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classic internet history.

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183. "If I'm the policy holder, I'm looking at the underwriter more than Kanye"
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They didn't define mental vs physical illness in the policy or restrict who could diagnose? Dumb-ass underwriter.

And if Kanye is faking being a POS to get insurance money, he's hit a new level of pathological narcissism that is difficult to fully describe. Also, what was the insurance bullshit with Kim's jewels? They're about cry wolf out into that 5-times-DUI insurance bracket, 1:1 shit.

  

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195. "is it really low to cancel a tour and protect yourself financially? "
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Ionno... I don't really think that would make him a POS.

Does he have to lose all that money for it to be genuine?

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187. "this only proves that there was "
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a policy in place. standard prctice.

I don't believe he's faking this. he pretty much kills his brand if this is not real. too much at stake.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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197. "I work in entertainment insurance and this is completely standard"
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We even have AEG Live (who did this tour) but I don't think we cover the Saint Pablo tour specifically.

Acts way way smaller than Kanye get their tours insured as pretty much standard practice (not always for event cancellation which is super expensive, but definitely for things like your equipment getting smashed). It's not a surprise at all that his management/label would put out a couple insurance policies for this tour.

Anyway it would completely surprise if he was pulling a long con on this for the insurance money unless he was planning on just completely peacing out from the music industry after this and using the insurance money to pay off his debt. We've definitely had submissions come through that are completely uninsurable (Amy Winehouse and Charlie Sheen come to mind) and it definitely puts a huge damper on your ability to do business an entertainer after that point. Maybe not as much when you're basically on top of the world like Kanye but if you fall off a bit from there? Absolutely.

  

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199. "doctors are claiming it's paranoia"
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203. "RE: doctors are claiming it's paranoia"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8fYj5okplc

  

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206. "quite the elaborate con he has going, huh?: "
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https://twitter.com/Complex/status/803303463903862785

http://www.complex.com/music/2016/11/kim-kardashian-putting-everything-on-hold-kanye-west-hospitalization

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207. "Oceans 13 levels"
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Off the top of my head, I'd say you're looking at a Boesky, a Jim Brown, a Miss Daisy, two Jethros and a Leon Spinks, not to mention the biggest Ella Fitzgerald ever!

SMH

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208. "I thought tweeting maniacally for years before was overkill tbh"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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209. "You posted those link like you posted new information. "
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I was at least expecting a direct quote from a medical professional with a diagnosis.

Not a "sources say its really bad" article from TMZ.




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210. "the new information is he's still in the hospital"
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i honestly dont know or care if he's faking but yeah, i'd say being in the hospital this long would show some serious commitment to the suspected con job

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