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PoppaGeorge
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"aaaaaaaand we're done folks; President Donald Trump."


  

          

Thanks for playing, have a good night. See you in 4 years.


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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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i wonder whats next
Nov 09th 2016
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if he gets his way, walking away from NAFTA...
Nov 09th 2016
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      and team america world police
Nov 09th 2016
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What......In......The..........Fuuuuuuuuuuuck
Nov 09th 2016
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america eats its young
Nov 09th 2016
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imagine how horribly he'll age as president
Nov 09th 2016
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Think his skin goes from pumpkin to tomato by the end?
Nov 09th 2016
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weight loss and baldness
Nov 09th 2016
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imagine how horribly WE will age wih him as president
Nov 09th 2016
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      im 30 and look like a teenager
Nov 09th 2016
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      check back in 4
Nov 09th 2016
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      lol
Nov 09th 2016
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Can't Wait To Read All Of 11/9 "Confession Wednesday" Posts
Nov 09th 2016
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As a non American ,
Nov 09th 2016
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And for the record, Jill Stein didn't come close to her 5%
Nov 09th 2016
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^^^
Nov 09th 2016
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I see, so Hillary lost Michigan, PA, New Hampshire, etc
Nov 09th 2016
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You are the perfect example of the incompetence
Nov 09th 2016
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Lol for a smart guy you have weird views here
Nov 09th 2016
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Vote for the progressive next time nm.
Nov 09th 2016
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dude, Hillary couldn't beat Donald Trump
Nov 09th 2016
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deejboram called it...... props
Nov 09th 2016
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This was my fear all along.
Nov 09th 2016
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RE: aaaaaaaand we're done folks; President Donald Trump.
Nov 09th 2016
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Let Murrica get what it deserves
Nov 09th 2016
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murica is about to experience what 20 years of berlusconi did
Nov 09th 2016
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We can only hope those "principled Republicans" were being genuine
Nov 09th 2016
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Homie, look at his entourage. Newt, Christie, Mayor 9/11, that weasel Pr...
Nov 09th 2016
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Prelim exit poll #s. He won men bigly. White men. Uneducated white men
Nov 09th 2016
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Trump performed as well as Romney with blacks and latinos and young vote...
Nov 09th 2016
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      he won 29% of the Latino vote?!? wtf
Nov 09th 2016
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           It included Rubio, Cruz, and other white cubans and latinos
Nov 09th 2016
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           Unless they changed the definition since 2012, at that doesn't matter
Nov 09th 2016
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                I bet that very few shifted.
Nov 09th 2016
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                     I'd say he tapped into the machista and anti-lgbt contingent
Nov 09th 2016
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                          and illegal immigration. It's amazing how many latinos are against it
Nov 09th 2016
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                          I contend the question is 'why did they vote for the first time?'
Nov 09th 2016
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                          To me, this is the correct answer. Latino voters have always been
Nov 09th 2016
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           yet we(Black folks) stay trying to "align" and bring them into our strug...
Nov 09th 2016
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                RE: yet we(Black folks) stay trying to "align" and bring them into our s...
Nov 09th 2016
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                All of them came from countries where Black people are even
Nov 09th 2016
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having to listen to these subhuman pieces of filth is the worst thing ev...
Nov 09th 2016
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RE: aaaaaaaand we're done folks; President Donald Trump.
Nov 09th 2016
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There was a point about a year ago when I realized this wasn't a joke
Nov 09th 2016
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yes. I agree. Wholeheartedly. It's been a full year+ of jokes and not ta...
Nov 09th 2016
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Not trying to gloat because who the fuck wanted Trump to win?
Nov 09th 2016
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      RE: Not trying to gloat because who the fuck wanted Trump to win?
Nov 09th 2016
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      This 100% true but we been known that shit
Nov 09th 2016
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           WE didn't run a thing against Trump
Nov 09th 2016
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      exactly. It's the whole persistent attitude of "YOU'RE AN IDIOT FOR EVEN
Nov 09th 2016
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           That bubble was real
Nov 09th 2016
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                ^^^ 100%
Nov 09th 2016
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a lot of people wanted trump to win
Nov 09th 2016
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      I didn't. And I'm not going to spend a moment absolving white individual...
Nov 09th 2016
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Land of the crackas, home of the fuckery
Nov 09th 2016
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Oh shit somebody just hit the fuckin' rental car
Nov 09th 2016
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Ha.
Nov 09th 2016
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FUUUUUUUCK!
Nov 09th 2016
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I have a good friend whose parents will likely die from this.
Nov 09th 2016
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man, fuck Hillary tho
Nov 09th 2016
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It's bigger than the US. Fundamentalism worldwide is in vogue
Nov 09th 2016
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Euro zone is done
Nov 09th 2016
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it's a sad day for emancipation in general n/m
Nov 09th 2016
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I'm worried France is next
Nov 09th 2016
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White folk showing their asses, globally
Nov 09th 2016
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      Black/brown people need to build our own spaces
Nov 09th 2016
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           ^^^^^
Nov 09th 2016
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if you saw one of his last ads.....
Nov 09th 2016
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I got clowned for calling attention to the hidden Trump vote
Nov 09th 2016
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      1000%
Nov 09th 2016
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this is legit depressing...
Nov 09th 2016
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Folks, can we try to hold are head high in the streets?
Nov 09th 2016
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The ideal is to hold your head high, but emotional people might not be
Nov 09th 2016
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My wife had a job interview this morning. I had to Denzel speech her.
Nov 09th 2016
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I meant to say if you can. Just know they are watching and
Nov 09th 2016
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What sucks is that we aren't grieving because dems lost
Nov 09th 2016
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If it weren't for the supreme court, I could deal with a non
Nov 09th 2016
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RE: What sucks is that we aren't grieving because dems lost
Nov 09th 2016
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I grieved last night when I went to bed
Nov 09th 2016
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I've seen two types of people on my facebook feed
Nov 09th 2016
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See?
Nov 09th 2016
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it's a game changer
Nov 09th 2016
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wish i could say i was suprised...wish i could say i didn't see it
Nov 09th 2016
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WTF was tim kaine good for??? she shouldve asked bernie to run for vp
Nov 09th 2016
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Nothing. I still couldn't pick him out of a line up
Nov 09th 2016
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He speaks Spanish
Nov 09th 2016
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She barely squeaked by VA
Nov 09th 2016
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      That let me know it was a wrap in NC and the rust belt was in play
Nov 09th 2016
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Damn near lost his own state n/m
Nov 09th 2016
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even old a$$ Tom Brokaw was calling out the Dems
Nov 09th 2016
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Tim Kaine got them the nomination.
Nov 09th 2016
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lol, I didn't even know who her running mate was until this post
Nov 09th 2016
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i said this too, i was shook when he wasn't the vp pick
Nov 10th 2016
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It looks like Clinton is going to win the popular vote
Nov 09th 2016
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How does a supposedly dying party gain so much power?
Nov 09th 2016
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Because they split themselves into two parties under the same name.
Nov 09th 2016
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There will not be backlash
Nov 09th 2016
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He's not going to have to deliver on anything...
Nov 09th 2016
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It's easy. I think everything we read is just plain wrong.
Nov 09th 2016
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We got a taste of the lame stream media
Nov 09th 2016
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What did you read that suggested this wasn't possible?
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      Pretty much every media source besides Breitbart and the like
Nov 09th 2016
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white. peoples. revenge. simple as.
Nov 09th 2016
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by embracing a new face...
Nov 09th 2016
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republicans been fighting about the power they had
Nov 09th 2016
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This concession speech is going to be so sad
Nov 09th 2016
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how would u respond to ppl thinkin that Trump's the Pres starting today?
Nov 09th 2016
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I wonder if/when these Trump voters
Nov 09th 2016
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This is where I am at as well
Nov 09th 2016
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Hilldog couldn't even carry the white woman vote, she had no chance.
Nov 09th 2016
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Shot out to Nate Silver. The only one who started pulling
Nov 09th 2016
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I give him props on that. He still needs to hang up his pocket protector
Nov 09th 2016
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yup, he needs to kick all the rocks. espn needs to "grantland" his site.
Nov 09th 2016
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Huffpo is Fox News of the left
Nov 09th 2016
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I don't feel like the 56% voter turnout is mentioned enough
Nov 09th 2016
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maybe the low turnout is Jill Steins fault too?
Nov 09th 2016
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the election was the 2 least popular candidates in history.
Nov 09th 2016
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Crazy how folks thought his base wouldn't rally against Clinton
Nov 09th 2016
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      It wasn't about rallying people against Hillary though.
Nov 09th 2016
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man ppl had 2 weeks to vote. tuesday doesnt matter.
Nov 09th 2016
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      Not to mention that they could have mailed out the ballots nm
Nov 09th 2016
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Dems need to learn from this....
Nov 09th 2016
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I agree with everything you said, they tried to force Hillary down our.....
Nov 09th 2016
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of all the post-mortem pieces I've read across the web, yours is best
Nov 09th 2016
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agreed, and i'll expound.
Nov 09th 2016
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RE: agreed, and i'll expound.
Nov 09th 2016
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^^^^^
Nov 09th 2016
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^^^^ all of this
Nov 09th 2016
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well said
Nov 09th 2016
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Yup!!!
Nov 09th 2016
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You summed it up pretty well.
Nov 09th 2016
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RE: Dems need to learn from this....
Nov 10th 2016
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      The DNC knew they needed republican crossover votes to win.
Nov 10th 2016
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           I think we gotta see Barack as a once in a lifetime phenomenom
Nov 10th 2016
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This is one of the worst days of my life.....
Nov 09th 2016
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Maybe this is the wake up call black people needed
Nov 09th 2016
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What would a white girl do?
Nov 09th 2016
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      probably vote for Trump
Nov 09th 2016
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Politico: Inside the Loss Clinton Saw Coming (link)
Nov 09th 2016
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man, as soon as her account tweet this (@ 6pm PST no less)...
Nov 09th 2016
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Lol, I'm pretty sure I know the exact supermarket they got that cake fro...
Nov 11th 2016
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I really wish I was wrong about Clinton's historic weaknesses
Nov 09th 2016
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In a race big on bigotry, a liberal New York Jew aint gonna sell in da r...
Nov 09th 2016
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base. it was always the risk we were taking.
Nov 09th 2016
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Mayne we sure we still want to be in the predictions game?
Nov 09th 2016
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Out of curiosity
Nov 09th 2016
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Hahaha
Nov 09th 2016
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      My intent with that question wasn't malicious.
Nov 09th 2016
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           Nah, I clicked the photo and shit looks ridiculous now
Nov 09th 2016
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fair enough, but lets go with what we DO know:
Nov 09th 2016
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for curiousity sake -
Nov 11th 2016
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The image of him walking out to the rose garden to give a speech
Nov 09th 2016
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Not hard to imagine after Bush did it for 8 years nm
Nov 09th 2016
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      Someone in here
Nov 09th 2016
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           Sad to say, Bush was clearly more presidential.
Nov 09th 2016
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                The fact the man was a two term president
Nov 09th 2016
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                I and plenty others clowned Dubya for his policies or lack thereof
Nov 09th 2016
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                     Gore had a chance... Kerry was an "Anybody but ____!!!" candidate
Nov 09th 2016
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                absolutely
Nov 09th 2016
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"You're likeable enough, Hillary". Obama caught that body 8 years ago.
Nov 09th 2016
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Donald Trump is moving to the White House, and liberals put him there:
Nov 09th 2016
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This quote right here is everything...
Nov 09th 2016
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Who gets the bigger wake up call faster: White women or uneducated YT me...
Nov 09th 2016
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In a weird fucked up way, White women won
Nov 09th 2016
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My gut tells me both are pretty much doomed at this point
Nov 09th 2016
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legsdiamond called it
Nov 09th 2016
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yep, I was wary of the same thing
Nov 09th 2016
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i was too but i thought there would be a similar dynamic for hillary
Nov 09th 2016
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Nah... no congrats for that shit.
Nov 09th 2016
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I was scared as fuck but i knew deep down this wouldn't happen
Nov 09th 2016
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Well, technically the error was in the turnout models, not the preferenc...
Nov 09th 2016
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      (which is a big part of what we've been saying)
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           for months
Nov 10th 2016
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Barack screamed on black folk, but shut his mouth to white suburbia...
Nov 09th 2016
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YT Suburbia was gonna turn out for Barack? He played the game right.
Nov 09th 2016
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Real talk.. a lot better of women don't think a woman should be presiden...
Nov 09th 2016
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Yep
Nov 09th 2016
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For the first time ever, i saw someone wearing one of those stupid hats
Nov 09th 2016
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they coming out the bushes like a fan of a historically sorry team
Nov 09th 2016
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I'm choosing for now to not acknowledge them.
Nov 09th 2016
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that Dow had an 1100-point swing between the futures last night
Nov 09th 2016
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One thing is very certain
Nov 09th 2016
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Thought Veep was finished / done?
Nov 09th 2016
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      The next season is the final one if I'm not mistaken.
Nov 10th 2016
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bernie or bust for folks = bust, level of stupidity is unbelievable
Nov 09th 2016
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i bet if you compared how many of bernie's people from 2016
Nov 09th 2016
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Gary Johnson voters are not Bernie or Busters.
Nov 09th 2016
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well, now trump is prez, be real careful on your surroundings next few y...
Nov 09th 2016
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Where the fuck was the Illuminati?
Nov 09th 2016
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they play both sides so they'll always win.
Nov 10th 2016
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tons of otherwise unspoken chauvinists showed up
Nov 10th 2016
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so the popular vote is settled now
Nov 10th 2016
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I ain't mad at the EC system
Nov 10th 2016
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      so you're OK with the idea that not everyone's vote should count the sam...
Nov 10th 2016
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           it's a very hard problem to solve.
Nov 10th 2016
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           you're ok with civil war or succession?
Nov 10th 2016
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           The popular vote has issues, too. 51% decides for the other 49%
Nov 10th 2016
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           Some move towards splitting up EVs proportionally would probably help.
Nov 11th 2016
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she lost the rust belt..
Nov 10th 2016
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Hil-heads yelled us all down about what a political genius she was too
Nov 10th 2016
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      business genius >> political genius...
Nov 10th 2016
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      he isn't a business genius though. He's a brand
Nov 10th 2016
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           How do you not go back to Michigan?
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                Exactly...
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      She had policies on her website tho!!!!
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few other things...
Nov 10th 2016
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She may not have won VA without Kaine
Nov 10th 2016
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True. But that shows how bad of a candidate she was IMO
Nov 10th 2016
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Ole kissing the wind ass Tim Kaine
Nov 10th 2016
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White folks are taking this way harder in my fb feed.
Nov 10th 2016
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Same. Liberal white people legit don't know how their cousins operate
Nov 10th 2016
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They are shocked.., completely shocked
Nov 10th 2016
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      White girl from my office wants to go have a drink and talk about it
Nov 10th 2016
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           She wants to know that she's still one of the "good ones"
Nov 10th 2016
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           White dude at my job asked me what are we gonna do now?
Nov 10th 2016
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so true
Nov 11th 2016
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trump considering jamie dimon for treasury secretary
Nov 10th 2016
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They listed possible cabinet members. Thought it was a joke
Nov 10th 2016
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Lawd... these white people about to find out.
Nov 10th 2016
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They say his fam is trying to talk him out of Bannon for Chief of Staff
Nov 10th 2016
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yo that first meeting between Newt and Boris Johnson gonna be lit
Nov 10th 2016
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Peter Thiel Said to Join Trump’s Presidential Transition Team
Nov 11th 2016
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mood...lol
Nov 10th 2016
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remember when people are complaining about protestors
Nov 10th 2016
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Wanted to extend a hand to Murph....
Nov 11th 2016
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RE: Wanted to extend a hand to Murph....
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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beatnik
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1. "i wonder whats next"
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recession, war, or 9/11 scale terrorist attack

PEACE LOVE and MONEY

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PoppaGeorge
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2. "if he gets his way, walking away from NAFTA..."
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... and every other fucked up trade agreement we ever entered into will probably be first.


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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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beatnik
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5. "and team america world police"
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private contractors will love him

he's about to ruin a lot of foreign relationships.

The Great American Shut In 2017

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3. "What......In......The..........Fuuuuuuuuuuuck"
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"The world is before you and you need not take it or leave it as it was when you came in." - James Baldwin

  

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4. "america eats its young"
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beatnik
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6. "imagine how horribly he'll age as president"
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I thought the Obama black to gray jokes were bad, man.

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natenate101
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7. "Think his skin goes from pumpkin to tomato by the end?"
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It's gonna be hard to stay optimistic with this fuckface on our tvs and in our ears 24/7. Obama wi be sorely missed.

  

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beatnik
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9. "weight loss and baldness"
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are my predictions

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10. "imagine how horribly WE will age wih him as president"
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>I thought the Obama black to gray jokes were bad, man.

  

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13. "im 30 and look like a teenager"
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even President Toupee and Vice President Racist Cop can't fuck with that lol

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102. "check back in 4"
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>even President Toupee and Vice President Racist Cop can't
>fuck with that lol

  

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19. "lol"
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8. "Can't Wait To Read All Of 11/9 "Confession Wednesday" Posts "
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If you thought Trump brought the worst out in people just wait till people really get it off their chest.


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11. "As a non American ,"
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I'm stunned and terrified.
Was no fan of Hillary but THIS guy?
Holy shit.
I have no idea what his foreign policy is and I don't think anyone else does either.
Mexican Peso dropped by more than 10%.
Deejboram probably stroking his dick and grinning right now.
Not hyperbole but the world order is about to profoundly change.

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12. "And for the record, Jill Stein didn't come close to her 5%"
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yet spoiled *multiple* states.

And at last report, the two-party duopoly has not been overturned.

  

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15. "^^^"
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91. "I see, so Hillary lost Michigan, PA, New Hampshire, etc"
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because of Jill Stein?

I thought those were fringe votes that weren't needed?

Sure he stance on the TPP and free trade had nothing to do with losing the Rust Belt?

Sure it wasn't the polls that came out in May that ended up being fairly accurate?

Sure it wasn't her pivot to win moderates and conservatives after convention instead of truly conceding to the populist direction the country and world is heading in?

The Democrats ran their game plan flawlessly by your estimation, and we got Donald Trump. We have been fighting this tooth and nail from the very beginning because we KNEW this would happen.

You should have more of a beef with Johnson than Stein, but Johnson got a diversity of people voting for him. So sad, because those folks were in the DNC tent as Bernie supporters, and theh DNC turned noise machines on them, but are surprised when those people rejected Trump AND Clinton.

Whole thing could have been avoided. A vote for Hillary was always a vote for Trump, because she was the one that could be beaten. Even worse, we didn't even lose with our best shot, and will forever wonder "what if"? AND we lost the Senate. So much for helping those down ticket races. The DNC truly tainted the entire ticket and we now have a new Red Scare to worry about....a Republican one.

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106. "You are the perfect example of the incompetence"
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of the Democratic party. POCs need to unhitch their weapons from these losers.

  

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135. "Lol for a smart guy you have weird views here"
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The DNC spoiled those states.

Berni won the primary here (MI) and then it came out the DNC was clandestinely opposing him the whole way

And now its jill stein's fault the Party's chickens came home to roost?

Get a grip

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143. "Vote for the progressive next time nm."
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150. "dude, Hillary couldn't beat Donald Trump"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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14. "deejboram called it...... props"
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i'll take my massive L... mofos in this country still dumb..

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18. "This was my fear all along. "
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Can't trust white america. Especially after 8 years of Obama and Michelle.

I'm still in shock.

This was white folks get back.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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16. "RE: aaaaaaaand we're done folks; President Donald Trump."
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I thought brexit was stupid but Trump winning?...Hillary is untrustworthy we all know this but to elect a man who clearly has no clue as to what he's doing. The whole world is laughing at the US electoral process right now.

  

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17. "Let Murrica get what it deserves"
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I am happy.

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20. "murica is about to experience what 20 years of berlusconi did"
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to italy, just on a bigger scale.

get ready to go back 30 years at least

  

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21. "We can only hope those "principled Republicans" were being genuine"
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and Trump doesn't get a blank check from Congress.
Doubt it though. They were just putting on a show thinking their best route was to be anti Trump. They'll hop onto his agenda (whatever that is) immediately as if hadn't opposed him

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22. "Homie, look at his entourage. Newt, Christie, Mayor 9/11, that weasel Pr..."
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Revenge will be enacted. The GOP is gonna get down or lay down. He bodied their establishment in the primary, and fucking wrecked the Dems in the executive, the legislature, and he's gonna give them the judiciary in short order...and these muthfuckas were scared that he would bring them down. Dad's ring finger is gonna get fucking mono from all the muthfuckas bending down to kiss it. We're talking medieval pope levels of control.

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23. "Prelim exit poll #s. He won men bigly. White men. Uneducated white men"
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http://www.npr.org/2016/11/09/501378673/how-trump-won-according-to-the-exit-polls

Clinton got the same share of women vote as Obama.
Trump blew Romney's men total out of the water

Trump vastly underperformed Romney among educated whites. But more than made up for it with the uneducated whites

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25. "Trump performed as well as Romney with blacks and latinos and young vote..."
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Clinton lower than Obama in each demographic

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/08/politics/first-exit-polls-2016/

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33. "he won 29% of the Latino vote?!? wtf"
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54. "It included Rubio, Cruz, and other white cubans and latinos"
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Latinos are not a monolith
there are racist latinos
self-hating latinos
coconut latinos

I personally know 3 latinos that voted for him:

1- A brown skin chicano from NM whose family has been here for 4 generations and was all for the wall

2- a white skin chicano from CA who's into alt-right men's rights anti-pc anti-lgbt, that whole pepe the frog subculture

3- a white cuban girl from Miami who was born here, parents from Cuba, and raised Rep. They'd rather fellate Fidel Castro than vote Dem. The hate for Dems is strong.

Every other latino I know went for Hill but it wasn't enough.

  

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63. "Unless they changed the definition since 2012, at that doesn't matter"
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Cubans and all the others you mentioned were in the Latino column last time around.

The question is why would Trump (of all people) get a bigger share of Latino votes relative to Romney? What made a portion of them shift from Dem to Repub this year?

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65. "I bet that very few shifted."
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What were the totals like? I'd be interested to see more detail....but I'd bet that latinos didn't shift. I bet it was a relatively smaller version of white men, there was an untapped demo of latinos who never voted before and love wrestling. So noone switched....there was just a surge of latino philistines. Anti-intellectualism crosses over racial identities in America to some extent. Enough of an extent in anycase.

  

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68. "I'd say he tapped into the machista and anti-lgbt contingent"
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again, not a monolith
nuff latino men still think a woman's place is the kitchen and gay marriage is from the devil
just like we saw with educated white women
they'll overlook all his other wild shit because he taps into their primal fears

  

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71. "and illegal immigration. It's amazing how many latinos are against it"
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Some of them frown on illegals like Black folk who frown on Affirmative Action after they get in the door.

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77. "I contend the question is 'why did they vote for the first time?'"
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And I don't think the answer has anything to do with illegal immigration. That's just the form it took. The answer is not about the issues....it's about psychology.

  

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100. "To me, this is the correct answer. Latino voters have always been "
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More socially aligned with Republicans than democrats.

Most Latino families are socially conservative when it comes to gay marriage, bathroom bills, and a woman's place belonging in the kitchen of White House and not running the White House.

Trump finally tapped into that social conservatism of Latinos and it helped him win.

Democrats are going to have to do a better job with Latinos going forward in the next election.

  

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62. "yet we(Black folks) stay trying to "align" and bring them into our strug..."
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smh..
wasting resources and energy.
we always want to bring everyone into OUR struggle under the assumption that they are in alignment with our values, needs, wants, goals in this America.

"Get ready....for your blessing....."

  

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69. "RE: yet we(Black folks) stay trying to "align" and bring them into our s..."
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>smh..
>wasting resources and energy.
>we always want to bring everyone into OUR struggle under the
>assumption that they are in alignment with our values, needs,
>wants, goals in this America.
>
>"Get ready....for your blessing....."


Yup. It's us against the world. Always has been and always will be.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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172. "All of them came from countries where Black people are even"
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more marginalized.

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24. "having to listen to these subhuman pieces of filth is the worst thing ev..."
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I'm going to do everything(within the law) to use my white privilege to fuck up as many of these people's lives as possible.

  

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26. "RE: aaaaaaaand we're done folks; President Donald Trump."
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I didn't sleep much. I'm frustrated at everyone and want to lash out. I hate that I just sat through a year of people making trump jokes, and treating the entire campaign as a joke, day in day out in every social and professional setting; and I kept saying how unsurprising and not funny this is. Only to witness their shock last night and today. There was nothing shocking, or humorous about that man nor his followers. Why did it take this for people to acknowledge that this is real ?

I heard more about his hair, bravado, clever takes on skin color, hands, lying, etc than I did about the real effects he and his ilk were having on this country.

I hate the arrogance of not treating a threat as a threat until it's far too late.

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28. "There was a point about a year ago when I realized this wasn't a joke "
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Kept telling people not to trust white America.

These folks are mad as shit and then we fucked around and pissed off Bernie Bros... shit was the perfect storm.

All that talk about "grab her by the pussy" Well, I think we underestimated how much wild shit white women prolly hear from white men in their lives.

Also think the Kaepernik fell out was a sign of things to come.

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31. "yes. I agree. Wholeheartedly. It's been a full year+ of jokes and not ta..."
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the undercurrent of racism/sexism/vengeance seriously. Folks relying on formulas that have been disproved multiple times over the past 16 years!!

Here especially......




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34. "Not trying to gloat because who the fuck wanted Trump to win?"
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It's more so about people refusing to even entertain the convo of a Trump victory.

No one wanted to believe he had a shot and I get it.. there was a time when I believed it to be true as well but the guy kept winning.

At some point I think the left needed to admit it was a real possibility. To lose this many states tells me the media and Dems had rose colored glasses on and refused to see what folks on the ground kept saying.

Trump signs were everywhere and Hilldawg enthusiasm was low as shit.

Shoulda gone with Bernie. You can't fight new energy with an old ass playbook.

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36. "RE: Not trying to gloat because who the fuck wanted Trump to win?"
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It was more about a single voice saying it's ok to be white and let's do everything we can to circle the white power structure. People overwhelmingly voted for white power. Regardless of how they got there. Be it immigration, terrorism, black lives matter; they behaved like scared white people clinging to the one thing that's always been secure for them in this country - white power.

I don't want to break it down past that. I don't want to deal with the if Bernie had this, or had Hillary that. I want to have the conversation that I have every day when I voice my complaints; that these white people don't give two shits about you. That there are good white people, but that white culture is inherently selfish and lecherous

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43. "This 100% true but we been known that shit"
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for some reason I think Obama winning made us forget it but recent activity by cops and reaction to BLM was an obvious sign.

It's hard for me not to do the what if it wasn't Hillary because after 8 years of a Black fam in the WH what did we think was going to happen?

2 years after Obama won their terms told us what we didn't want to hear. White folk weren't going away quietly.

Not trying to argue but I feel like not talking about who we ran against Trump is the real story. White folks gonna white folk so why run the most hated candidate in the rust belt vs that dude?

Ionno... I could see if it was another candidate and Trump won but most people who warned of his chances for victory knew exactly why it could happen.

Trump was their white Obama and we tried to win with Mitt Romney.

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47. "WE didn't run a thing against Trump"
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At 13% of the population we're a buffer, not the base.

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38. "exactly. It's the whole persistent attitude of "YOU'RE AN IDIOT FOR EVEN"
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THINKING THAT HE COULD WIN"

>It's more so about people refusing to even entertain the
>convo of a Trump victory.
>
>No one wanted to believe he had a shot and I get it.. there
>was a time when I believed it to be true as well but the guy
>kept winning.

The fact that he won the primary shoulda been the "OH SHIT, this COULD happen" moment for everyone...but they continued to Kanye Shrug it off...

>At some point I think the left needed to admit it was a real
>possibility. To lose this many states tells me the media and
>Dems had rose colored glasses on and refused to see what folks
>on the ground kept saying.

The media needs to be dealt with...but by who??


>Trump signs were everywhere and Hilldawg enthusiasm was low as
>shit.
>
>Shoulda gone with Bernie. You can't fight new energy with an
>old ass playbook.

I don't really believe Bernie would have fared much better.

"Get ready....for your blessing....."

  

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46. "That bubble was real"
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It's a shame but I think it's the main reason Hilldawg lost. DNC didn't really embrace Bernie after the fact. They didn't want to hear what the most energized portion of the base was screaming.

Not trying to blame black folk but I knew that southern black vote in the primary would screw us over in the end. While she had that sewn up in the primaries due to years of campaign work with Bill I always felt like it would backfire because we weren't winning any of those states in the electoral college.

It is what is tho... she won but she damn sure didn't win square and fair. DNC stacked the deck and Donna Brazille and Debbie Whatsherfaceshultz was fired as well... but embraced by Hilldawgs team.

She was also under investigation by the FBI. Seriously... Bernie woulda won bruh.

Some of these states were close as fuck and Bernie Bros bounced once they saw those emails.

The rust belt also flipped because Hillary loved TPP until Bernie hit her over the head with it. They never forgot what the Clintons did to them with Nafta. They never forgot how she shitted on coal.

Bernie and Hillary supporters would have pushed him over the top the same way they did for Obama.

The DNC and Dem voters fucked up by trying to make history twice. Too scared to be progressive. Smh...

You really think blue collar whites in rust belt states wouldn't want free college like Bernie was offering?

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104. "^^^ 100%"
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37. "a lot of people wanted trump to win"
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45. "I didn't. And I'm not going to spend a moment absolving white individual..."
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Of white culture. They own this. From the frothing Trump supporters to the "socially polite" folks that say alt right instead of white nationalists.

They own this.

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27. "Land of the crackas, home of the fuckery"
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Man oh man I thought trump would get to the general election all along. But I never thought he'd win. White ppl been MAD. AS. HELL. for 8 years

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29. "Oh shit somebody just hit the fuckin' rental car "
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>Thanks for playing, have a good night. See you in 4 years.
>
>
>---------------------------
>
>"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the
>peace when we were getting laid out?
>Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances?
>Where is the peace then?
>They don't want to call for peace then.

Just IMO though.

  

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56. "Ha. "
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Also,

  

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30. "FUUUUUUUCK!"
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What the hell am I going to do if they repeal Obamacare i'm fucked. My current employer is only 4 people. They aren't going to pay for it.

If a fat guy falls in the woods and there is no one around to see it, do the trees laugh?

  

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121. "I have a good friend whose parents will likely die from this. "
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In short order too.

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32. "man, fuck Hillary tho"
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and fuck the dems for rolling with that bitch

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35. "It's bigger than the US. Fundamentalism worldwide is in vogue"
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And how the far right parties have had an unprecedented run in European politics.
How the Arab spring turned into a nightmare.
How Russia's turned into an autocratic society.
Brexit

And most of these changes were DEMOCRATICALLY chosen; the people looked at the facts and said "fuck em" out of fear.

Honestly, its MUCH MUCH worse then Trump. We've had republican presidents before, we will survive that. Politics in the first, second, third world being motivated by fear though? We are messing with WWIII ingredients.

  

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39. "Euro zone is done"
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I thought brexit was an anomaly. Nah. I give it 5 years

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40. "it's a sad day for emancipation in general n/m"
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41. "I'm worried France is next"
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if Marine Le Pen gets elected (May 2017) then she's already said she'll go for a Frexit referendum. And knowing how unpopular the EU is right now, I'm pretty sure how it'd go. Then Germany has elections a few months later that could topple Merkel, and so bye-bye Europe basically
Le Pen still hasn't really got a clear path to winning, but that expression is fast becoming meaningless

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44. "White folk showing their asses, globally"
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As they always have
We gotta blow up the DeathStar

  

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116. "Black/brown people need to build our own spaces"
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We can keep trying to follow and expect white folks to hand over their treasures and keep getting kicked in the face. We need to just focus on our own nations and build up.

It is embarrassing to see all the brown nations running after white/European living and get mad when they block us.

Black Americans have a different history, but still. Do for self.

Rise & Shine
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124. "^^^^^"
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42. "if you saw one of his last ads....."
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it showed a woman going into the voting booth and the curtain closing behind her... that summed it all up.. there were a lot of people that voted that never voiced an opinion but all wanted him to win...


God help us all..

You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.

  

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57. "I got clowned for calling attention to the hidden Trump vote"
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A lot of them didn't want get tagged as racist/sexist so they just kept their mouth shut or lied
but they were voting for him all along
they agreed with him, just didn't want to own up to it publicly and here we are

  

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136. "1000%"
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I think the polls failed to capture just how many supporters he had. Folks who wouldn't admit it in public because they feared the social backlash, but were planning to vote for him all along.

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48. "this is legit depressing..."
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like all you can hope for is a horrible 4 years so he doesn't get the usual reelection but he will bc Americans don't fight patterns until enough anger has built up

i knew this nation was divided but Jesus christ

we need a new majority...i need to have some babies and keep them felonies off them

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49. "Folks, can we try to hold are head high in the streets?"
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I went to drop my kids off this morning and the ex-cop security guard and a parent were just beaming. I overheard when I walked talking to each other "welcome to the trail of tears, we've been living it the last 8 years"

I think among the many motivating factors for Trump voters, one was just seeing the pained look on progressives face once he won. They are eating up our public displays of pain.

Even the white progressive parents looking sad gave me an extra "How are YOU doing this morning?" and I refuse to let any of these folks see me sweat.

I'll save the tears for home.

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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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51. "The ideal is to hold your head high, but emotional people might not be "
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able to yet.

I'm on the page to hold my head high but I'm sure I won't be tested about that like some people will (certain work environments, etc.)


It's just a big blow to go from Obama to Trump so a lot of people, probably children, aren't going to be able to not show their feelings.

Probably good to suggest it, but a lot of people just won't be able to do it for a while.

  

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53. "My wife had a job interview this morning. I had to Denzel speech her. "
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I never talk to her like that, because she's the type that needs massaging to hear things.
But I told her that we can grieve in this house. But we need to walk out, keep our heads up, and handle ourselves with dignity outside and continue to make hard work look easy.

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60. "I meant to say if you can. Just know they are watching and"
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enjoying it.


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55. "What sucks is that we aren't grieving because dems lost"
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>I went to drop my kids off this morning and the ex-cop
>security guard and a parent were just beaming. I overheard
>when I walked talking to each other "welcome to the trail of
>tears, we've been living it the last 8 years"

Like, this isn't a case of a sports team losing, or us being disappointed at George Bush winning 2004. This is a 'Here's What they Think About You' (c) Ice Cube on a scale we haven't faced in our generation. If Hillary lost to Jeb it wouldn't feel like this, nahmean

  

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58. "If it weren't for the supreme court, I could deal with a non"
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Trump person winning.

I am moderate enough to be comfortable with the idea that one party can't hold onto the white house for more than 8 years.

But the Supreme Court which was rightfully suppose to swing left under Obama and start mitigating the damage done by a Scalia Court for 25 years is going to go even further right for a generation. That hurts.

roe v. wade is probably done.
Voting right act. done.

Affirmative action, already on it's last leg will be put out of it's misery.

the list goes on.

I am mad at RBG for not retiring when she could have safely been replaced by Obama.

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76. "RE: What sucks is that we aren't grieving because dems lost"
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>Like, this isn't a case of a sports team losing, or us being
>disappointed at George Bush winning 2004. This is a 'Here's
>What they Think About You' (c) Ice Cube on a scale we haven't
>faced in our generation. If Hillary lost to Jeb it wouldn't
>feel like this, nahmean

This is the part that really takes me to a whole 'nother place. The two are not remotely comparable.

  

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59. "I grieved last night when I went to bed"
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when FL got called I knew it was over
woke up this morning, saw the confirmation
I brushed my teeth to "My Downfall"
and I'm now on some "I WISH A MF WOULD"

I ain't no tough guy thug whatever, but I feel amped. I'm looking them all in the eye

  

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61. "I've seen two types of people on my facebook feed"
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there are the "All is Lost!" folks and the "ok, we got work to do. Let's go".

I am trying to roll with the second group.

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75. "See? "
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>I went to drop my kids off this morning and the ex-cop
>security guard and a parent were just beaming. I overheard
>when I walked talking to each other "welcome to the trail of
>tears, we've been living it the last 8 years"

This is the kinda shit I CANNOT do. My colleague, who I like very much, actually said to me, 'it is what it is.' Fuck her, fuck them and fuck anyone who voted for him or thinks like them.

There is no legitimate or vaguely objective way to compare Obama to Trump. FOH. Anyone saying otherwise is not remotely credible or sane.

  

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50. "it's a game changer"
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for sure

  

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52. "wish i could say i was suprised...wish i could say i didn't see it "
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coming

the crackers have spoken
fuck em

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64. "WTF was tim kaine good for??? she shouldve asked bernie to run for vp"
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66. "Nothing. I still couldn't pick him out of a line up"
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And I actually follow politics

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67. "He speaks Spanish"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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70. "She barely squeaked by VA "
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I thought VP was supposed to lock up the state they're from?

  

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73. "That let me know it was a wrap in NC and the rust belt was in play"
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No way you barely win the VP's state and win the election.

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72. "Damn near lost his own state n/m"
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83. "even old a$$ Tom Brokaw was calling out the Dems"
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on their old, white, establishment ticket.

  

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94. "Tim Kaine got them the nomination."
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He stepped down from the DNC to allow DWS to take leadership.

I think his VP ticket was some sort of retribution for stepping aside.

It wasn't the choice for America, it was just getting their ducks in a row. A VP who is sometimey on pro-choice, wants to deregulate Wall Street and approve TPP......yeah, why did Independents vote for Gary Johnson when they could have had Hillary and Kaine?

total shit show. Sanders/Warren would have turned it out.

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126. "lol, I didn't even know who her running mate was until this post"
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Shoulda BRIBED Bernie to be her running mate.

  

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184. "i said this too, i was shook when he wasn't the vp pick"
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i said to myself ummm guys you know you need them to win.
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74. "It looks like Clinton is going to win the popular vote"
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:/

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78. "How does a supposedly dying party gain so much power?"
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For real, folks have been guffawing about the infighting within the Republican party as the Tea Party folks go against the traditional Republicans.... but since 2010, the Republican party has won the House, then the Senate and now the Presidency. Soon, the Republicans will also be able to pack the Supreme Court with conservative judges.

Democrats got a lot of soul searching to do... they've supposedly got he demographics on their side but can't seem to translate them into political victories.

Folks are arguing about 3rd party candidates when there's really only 1 party that's really been getting it in for most of the 21st century so far.

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79. "Because they split themselves into two parties under the same name. "
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Which, ironically, is the same reason these first two years are going to be a total referendum on the republican party. If they dont deliver on this crazy shit they sold deep red repubs on, they are going to have a hell of a backlash.

  

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84. "There will not be backlash "
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Any mistakes will be chalked up to the false narrative of things being so broken from Obama.

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88. "He's not going to have to deliver on anything..."
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He never took a solid position on anything. He could go lock step with the GOP and it will look like he did what he said he'd do.

Or he could go renegade and it will still look like he did what he said he would.

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85. "It's easy. I think everything we read is just plain wrong. "
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I am aghast that people are still getting on TV right now and trying to predict shit.

The professionals and experts are neither. The biggest story in the entire world just happened and the media that has been covering this for the last two years go it completely wrong, what does that tell us?




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93. "We got a taste of the lame stream media"
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MHP tried to tell us she wasn't a mammy and most people clowned her over that shit.

They fed us that bullshit and most people ate it up.





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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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97. "What did you read that suggested this wasn't possible?"
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This shouldn't have been a surprise to anyone.

  

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118. "Pretty much every media source besides Breitbart and the like"
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I have a feeling you are going to harp on the technicality of the words "not possible" though. So I'm going to change that to "very unlikely"

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98. "white. peoples. revenge. simple as."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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144. "by embracing a new face..."
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Trump is not a traditional Presidential candidate even by GOP standards. He revived them with his crazy talk and supposed anti establishment stances. They didn't want him but after a while they shrugged and just ran with it.

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175. "republicans been fighting about the power they had"
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not the last crumbs

  

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80. "This concession speech is going to be so sad"
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She thought she was going to win. Pretty much everyone that she was going to win. This was not an outcome they saw coming.

Obama snuck in and stole it from her in 2008. She shrugged it off. This though? To get so close only to have it taken by a buffoon like Trump? Devastating.

Running for president for damn near 10 years and still unsuccessful smh

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81. "how would u respond to ppl thinkin that Trump's the Pres starting today?"
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these are strangers on the internet, not friends/family.

would you

A. educate them

B. clown them

C. ignore them



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82. "I wonder if/when these Trump voters"
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are going to realize even a little how much they f*cked themselves and Mr "tell it like it is" was full of sh!t?

Like, I wonder how many white folks with a pre-existing health condition voted Trump?

I wonder how these voters- from the middle class to the WI voters to the hill billys- are going to react when social security benefits get reduced and the age is raised??

Or what is going to cross their mind when they realize that wall ain't being built...and if it is, its going to be crazy expensive and not work anyway.


Or when those factory jobs don't come back?


I mean, this is scary sh!t. Yes certain people will be more impacted, but a lot of folks straight slit their own wrists.


I mean, yeah its on them.

But it is also on the Dems for not making that case.


  

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109. "This is where I am at as well"
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All these people that currently have health insurance who "hate it" and are about to lose their health insurance are going to realize how much more expensive health insurance can and will be.

I have a cousin who has a 2 year old son and is due with her second child in January and is on Cover California but I'm interested to see what happens to her and her family when her health insurance is cut because the ACA has been dismantled.

  

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86. "Hilldog couldn't even carry the white woman vote, she had no chance."
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87. "Shot out to Nate Silver. The only one who started pulling"
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back on the blowout talk.

Gas face to Hufpost for trying to clown Nate for trying to ring the alarm that there should be some caution before claiming Hillary had a 99% chance of winning.

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90. "I give him props on that. He still needs to hang up his pocket protector"
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You can't wonk public sentiment.

When his probabilities started cratering for Clinton, I knew it was gonna be all bad.
But he still missed on like 6 or 7 states. If you can predict swing states, what's the point in even publishing the shit?

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95. "yup, he needs to kick all the rocks. espn needs to "grantland" his site."
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96. "Huffpo is Fox News of the left"
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Too many opinion pieces and Kardashian stories to take them seriously.

It's all emotion and little actual news.

Nate tries to stick to the stars and when he went on that tirade on twitter we shoulda known shit was funky.

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89. "I don't feel like the 56% voter turnout is mentioned enough"
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lowest score since 2000 (for a presidential election). Maybe Trump still wins if this was at 60-65%, but it sure feels like he mobilized his base more.
And even 60ish% seems too low for such a crucial vote (in Europe 80% for major elections is kinda standard). They really should look at changing the Tuesday thing, we don't live in the era of farmers having to work the market on Saturdays and go to church on Sundays anymore...

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92. "maybe the low turnout is Jill Steins fault too?"
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n/m

  

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99. "the election was the 2 least popular candidates in history."
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of course there is going to be low turn out, especially when the election became about vague policy positions, and this slap fight of who was actually worse. It was a race to the bottom, but Trump was able to turn his negatives into enthusiasm. She never closed the enthusiasm gap.

Most people who didn't vote agree that Trump is a disaster. But that is not a policy position. The election was turned into "we think Trump is terrible, right?" but there were 3+ places to make that vote. The Dems didn't have an answer for "Hillary has issues as well". They tried to hold the ball and run the clock out, and let him track with his energized base.

total mess, and so unfortunate.

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101. "Crazy how folks thought his base wouldn't rally against Clinton "
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129. "It wasn't about rallying people against Hillary though."
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It was about rallying her supporters to want to hold her accountable. Them acting as if she had done and could do no wrong is what had Hillary sit on the ball so long. Had she been invigorated by her support she maybe would have moved on DAPL and other progressive stances beyond lip service. Either way she couldn't fix her record. Her appointments in the end did her in to the Independents paying attention. You can come and and say you are against things that your cabinet is directly for.

We just wanted a better candidate, but so many gave her a blank check. She didn't have to do anything, and that bubble got popped last night.

and it was totally avoidable. But people wanted her as President. Now we don't have her, or the House or the Senate, because we didn't care about issues.

Think about it. People are bummed because Trump is President, or because Hillary isn't, and that is fair. But are people bummed about the policy we are missing out on? I am bummed about free college, and universal health care, and anti-fracking, and all the other things we lost at the convention. But it wasn't about Bernie. Hillary could have been stronger on these issues she was pressed on, but it was just slaps in the face one after the other.

total mess.

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103. "man ppl had 2 weeks to vote. tuesday doesnt matter."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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131. "Not to mention that they could have mailed out the ballots nm"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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105. "Dems need to learn from this...."
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The Democratic Party needs to take a good look at itself. Yes, racist white folks are always gonna klan but the Democratic Party made some big mistakes that they cannot shift blame for. They ignored many many signs to get to this point. All the primaries the polls were wrong... yet no one could entertain that wasn't a fluke. People were willfully blind taking trump as a joke even though Hillary Clinton has literally been the most polarizing democrat of our time for several decades. She was a hated First Lady, a hated senator, a once failed democratic nominee and a hated state department head. She has been scandal plegded for years. Yet, they ran her ANYWAY!

Folks relished alienating Bernie Bros and telling them to shut up and concede. It turns out they where the canary in the cage for general disaffection with the party establishment on both sides. The democratic base and Clinton deigned to incorporate the most energized part of the electorate and used a strategy that could be summed up by "you need us idiot, fall in line and shut up stupid." Turns out that doesn't work and "Not trump" is just not a transformational message. Barack won on transformation not competency. Trump won on transformation not competency. No sitting president has won purely on competency.

I said in other posts, there are white folks who would never go to a trump rally or hang trump signs in their yard but they would silently vote for him. I work with several of them. I watch how they fell silent when people made jokes about trump being racist . I heard how they talked about the police shootings as "sticky situations" and how people should just "obey the law." I heard their comments about Muslims as terrorist. I'm not as shocked as I wish I was.

There were glaring problems with Hillary's record on issues important to white folks beside minority control, like trade, banking regulations and jobs. Idiots convinced themselves that vast amounts of white folks wouldn't be activated by racism, even though they classically have been in droves, and that she could also be weak on the issues most important to them... the economy, trade and jobs at the same time! You can't do both! That's where she lost a lot of whites that should have been easily In her column. He won college educated white folks by way too large a margin to just call this an issue of billy bob in trailer parks. Anyone with basic common sense could tell her campaign lip service on those issues was just not supported by her actions for 20 years.

The dems need to understand you can't shove a candidate down people's throats because you think you're so much smarter than the rest of the world and expect people to love you for it. A failure of imagination led the Democratic Party to cling to the establishment when all the signs called for transformation. Give people someone they can bee excited about. Learn from the mistakes made here.
Run a winner next time.


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108. "I agree with everything you said, they tried to force Hillary down our....."
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throats and last night's regurgitation is the result of that.

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110. "of all the post-mortem pieces I've read across the web, yours is best"
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You nailed it. Well done. They had it coming.

  

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112. "agreed, and i'll expound."
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you can't run for the President of the USA on pragmatism and expect victory.

you HAVE to be inspirational. EVERY candidate comes back to the middle once they actually win. shit, Trump was already doing it when he spoke at his party. but he was inspirational to his people - he spoke to all the racist, sexist, xenophobic dreams of conservative whites.

Obama was that inspirational candidate for the last two elections. Bernie was the inspirational candidate for Dems for THIS election, and the DNC got him out of the paint, and thus, here we are.

this is just like '04 when John Kerry was supposed to be elected simply because "anyone but Bush again." Hillary was that "anyone but Trump" candidate, and she wasn't even as good as Kerry with all her problematic aspects.

you CANNOT win on pragmatism. there has to be more.

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179. "RE: agreed, and i'll expound."
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Everything you said.

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114. "^^^^^"
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November 8th, 2005 The greatest night in the history of GD!

  

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115. "^^^^ all of this"
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119. "well said"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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153. "Yup!!!"
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166. "You summed it up pretty well."
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>The Democratic Party needs to take a good look at itself.
>Yes, racist white folks are always gonna klan but the
>Democratic Party made some big mistakes that they cannot shift
>blame for. They ignored many many signs to get to this point.
>All the primaries the polls were wrong... yet no one could
>entertain that wasn't a fluke. People were willfully blind
>taking trump as a joke even though Hillary Clinton has
>literally been the most polarizing democrat of our time for
>several decades. She was a hated First Lady, a hated senator,
>a once failed democratic nominee and a hated state department
>head. She has been scandal plegded for years. Yet, they ran
>her ANYWAY!
>
>Folks relished alienating Bernie Bros and telling them to shut
>up and concede. It turns out they where the canary in the cage
>for general disaffection with the party establishment on both
>sides. The democratic base and Clinton deigned to incorporate
>the most energized part of the electorate and used a strategy
>that could be summed up by "you need us idiot, fall in line
>and shut up stupid." Turns out that doesn't work and "Not
>trump" is just not a transformational message. Barack won on
>transformation not competency. Trump won on transformation not
>competency. No sitting president has won purely on competency.
>
>
>I said in other posts, there are white folks who would never
>go to a trump rally or hang trump signs in their yard but they
>would silently vote for him. I work with several of them. I
>watch how they fell silent when people made jokes about trump
>being racist . I heard how they talked about the police
>shootings as "sticky situations" and how people should just
>"obey the law." I heard their comments about Muslims as
>terrorist. I'm not as shocked as I wish I was.
>
>There were glaring problems with Hillary's record on issues
>important to white folks beside minority control, like trade,
>banking regulations and jobs. Idiots convinced themselves that
>vast amounts of white folks wouldn't be activated by racism,
>even though they classically have been in droves, and that she
>could also be weak on the issues most important to them... the
>economy, trade and jobs at the same time! You can't do both!
>That's where she lost a lot of whites that should have been
>easily In her column. He won college educated white folks by
>way too large a margin to just call this an issue of billy bob
>in trailer parks. Anyone with basic common sense could tell
>her campaign lip service on those issues was just not
>supported by her actions for 20 years.
>
>The dems need to understand you can't shove a candidate down
>people's throats because you think you're so much smarter than
>the rest of the world and expect people to love you for it. A
>failure of imagination led the Democratic Party to cling to
>the establishment when all the signs called for
>transformation. Give people someone they can bee excited
>about. Learn from the mistakes made here.
>Run a winner next time.
>
>
>___________________________________________________________
>
>
>DJTB YOMM
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>DJTB YOMM


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194. "RE: Dems need to learn from this...."
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>The dems need to understand you can't shove a candidate down
>people's throats because you think you're so much smarter than
>the rest of the world and expect people to love you for it. A
>failure of imagination led the Democratic Party to cling to
>the establishment when all the signs called for
>transformation. Give people someone they can bee excited
>about. Learn from the mistakes made here.
>Run a winner next time.
>

It's hilarious to hear someone say this when Dems are the big government aka government knows best party. Why would that thinking be any different when choosing a candidate for you? People expect them to do everything else for them ..


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204. "The DNC knew they needed republican crossover votes to win. "
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Barack got them which his how he got North Carolina, Florida and several other states that had been red before, in conjunction with an extremely high turn voter turnout. Yet, the DNC picked the single most hated democratic politician by the republican electorate in all of history to run knowing that. That's pure stupidity. No matter how smart they think they are, no one can defy logic.
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206. "I think we gotta see Barack as a once in a lifetime phenomenom"
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In fact, I'd say the battle between 1sts (black vs woman) president was happened in 2008. There's less novelty for the 1st woman president because Barack won & I think the same would have been true for Barack has Hillary won in 2008.

As for Hillary being unlikeable.. Hey, she's a crook. Most decent people don't like them. lol
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107. "This is one of the worst days of my life....."
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Maybe my mood will improve next week or something....

  

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111. "Maybe this is the wake up call black people needed "
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113. "What would a white girl do?"
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122. "probably vote for Trump "
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117. "Politico: Inside the Loss Clinton Saw Coming (link)"
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http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/11/hillary-clinton-loses-2016-election-214439

its a little long but this part is crazy as shit.

The key on their end, aides agree, was learning not to surprise Clinton with bad news. Eight years ago, staffers either kept not realizing or not telling her that Obama was going to win. Maybe they were were too busy knifing each other, blaming the losses on something that someone else did wrong.
"She doesn't micromanage, but she wants to know what is going on, especially if things aren't working according to our plan," Benenson said.

The worst was New Hampshire, the moment when Brooklyn actually felt like the ground might be shifting under them and Sanders would run away with it. Mook told her she was going to lose. He told Bill Clinton too: by 20 points.

Deputy communications director Kristina Schake sent an intern to get a big supermarket layer cake to try to lighten the mood.

“Dig in,” Mook told the staff, digging into the pun, “because we’re about to get layered.”

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123. "man, as soon as her account tweet this (@ 6pm PST no less)..."
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i knew it was a wrap. you don't talk like that unless you think you're gonna lose.

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/796169187882369024

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226. "Lol, I'm pretty sure I know the exact supermarket they got that cake fro..."
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Probably the one on Montague St.

  

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120. "I really wish I was wrong about Clinton's historic weaknesses"
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and I wish the DNC wasn't so inept about devaluing the Progressive, millennial base in this country that was mobilized beautifully by the Sanders campaign.

But it's time to face the facts:

Bernie Sanders was the stronger General Election candidate to square off against Trump in *this* election of anti-establishment sentiment from the voters.

The DNC felt Clinton was entitled to the Presidency after 2008 - and that arrogance and short-sightedness created a smaller-tent Democratic Party that didn't get the job done.

Bernie would never have been swept in rural, rust-belt districts like Clinton was.

Let this be an important (but painful) lesson. The Millennials will soon be the largest voting bloc in the country. If the Democratcs don't harness that energy - they will have committed political malpractice of the highest order.

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127. "In a race big on bigotry, a liberal New York Jew aint gonna sell in da r..."
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>Bernie would never have been swept in rural, rust-belt
>districts like Clinton was.

Not to say he wouldn't have galvanized the base and etched out a win; I agree there.

But in some ways a young Obama was an easier sell then Bernie would be.

  

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128. "base. it was always the risk we were taking."
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we took it.

then it took us.

*sigh*

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130. "Mayne we sure we still want to be in the predictions game?"
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I had a dude at lunch, worked at the whitehouse years ago and always plays the insider, who was telling us not to worry that Hillary has it wrapped up. We were all despairing on whatsapp today and he had the nerve to make the bold prediction that Trump is going to get two terms. SMH.


The old me would have said no way bernie would have won because while he might have galvanized one base, he would have lost another and I am skeptical of this press that missed this whole enchilada under their noses who now want to tell us that this was a result of anti-establishment sentiments across the country. If Sanders ran and lost they would be saying it was the result of no party holding the white house for 3 terms.

The new me will say I am highly doubtful that Bernie would have done better because within the limited bubble I am in I know plenty of overlapping and distinct demographics who just wouldn't have voted for a Brooklyn Born Jewish Socialist who wrote rape fantasies.

You've heard all the arguments why people think he wouldn't have faired well in a general election and I'll just leave it at that because we can argue but the truth is we will never know.






>and I wish the DNC wasn't so inept about devaluing the
>Progressive, millennial base in this country that was
>mobilized beautifully by the Sanders campaign.
>
>But it's time to face the facts:
>
>Bernie Sanders was the stronger General Election candidate to
>square off against Trump in *this* election of
>anti-establishment sentiment from the voters.
>
>The DNC felt Clinton was entitled to the Presidency after 2008
>- and that arrogance and short-sightedness created a
>smaller-tent Democratic Party that didn't get the job done.
>
>Bernie would never have been swept in rural, rust-belt
>districts like Clinton was.
>
>Let this be an important (but painful) lesson. The
>Millennials will soon be the largest voting bloc in the
>country. If the Democratcs don't harness that energy - they
>will have committed political malpractice of the highest
>order.
>
>-->


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132. "Out of curiosity"
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when are you going to change that avatar?

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137. "Hahaha"
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140. "My intent with that question wasn't malicious."
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I'm not trying to clown the dude, I'm just curious.

If the picture is poking at Hilary and/or Obama and I don't see the humor, my apologies.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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154. "Nah, I clicked the photo and shit looks ridiculous now"
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142. "fair enough, but lets go with what we DO know:"
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Hillary failed to hit her necessary numbers for her own party for pledged delegates - in a party she had been in for 30 years - with the entire establishment behind her.

on the contrary, Bernie came in as an Independent and won over 47% of the Democratic base. Hillary supporters would have voted for Bernie. That means you get to keep that entire demographic together.

Then you pivot to the general, where Bernie was already polling ahead of Trump in double digits (vs Hillary's virtual tie). Gary Johnson and Jill Stein don't pull their numbers with Bernie in the race. Those people by and large are Bernie supporters that didn't like Hillary OR Trump.

With Bernie you don't lose the White working class vote, which lost us Michigan, Wisconsin, New Hampshire, etc.

With the voter turnout yesterday, with Bernie as the nominee, you win the Presidency and don't "lose" the Senate (unless replacing it with new progressives.

If you can't see that, then just know that Trump was the better candidate no matter what, because by your logic there is nothing better that the DNC could have done in choosing a candidate. It was just meant to be I suppose, but it didn't have to be this way. Bernie would have embarrassed Trump, AND had Warren on the ticket.

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225. "for curiousity sake -"
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Do you guys think HIllary would have still lost with Bernie as her VP pick?
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125. "The image of him walking out to the rose garden to give a speech"
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its depressing

If a fat guy falls in the woods and there is no one around to see it, do the trees laugh?

  

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133. "Not hard to imagine after Bush did it for 8 years nm"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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134. "Someone in here"
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has or had a picture of Bush and Bowser from those Super Mario games walking side by side on the same garden as their avatar.

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139. "Sad to say, Bush was clearly more presidential. "
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As dumb as a bag of rocks? Absolutely.

But he had that "Everyman, let me rally up all the steelworkers to unionize(non-unionize since it's repub, lol)" drawl down.

How's Trump going to show compassion when the next mass shooting goes down? Can you imagine him talking to a grieving mother? LOL.

  

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141. "The fact the man was a two term president"
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is pretty damn remarkable. Not saying at all that I like or respect him or his policies, but pretty nuts the man ran this country for 8 years.

I guess that speaks more to Karl Rove's abilities and not George Bush personally.

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145. "I and plenty others clowned Dubya for his policies or lack thereof"
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but the fact was
dude was relatable. People LIKED him.
his "aw, shucks" public persona drew enough of the electorate to get him elected twice
Of course the Dem's gift for nominating the worst possible candidates they can find just kept on giving
but Dubya was able to stand on his own and present a positive persona

  

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164. "Gore had a chance... Kerry was an "Anybody but ____!!!" candidate"
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>but the fact was
>dude was relatable. People LIKED him.
>his "aw, shucks" public persona drew enough of the electorate
>to get him elected twice
>Of course the Dem's gift for nominating the worst possible
>candidates they can find just kept on giving
>but Dubya was able to stand on his own and present a positive
>persona
>

When your primary reason for being in the race is that you're NOT the other guy, you're going to struggle to gather the support to beat someone who's actually got a little juice behind them.

Kerry was lame compared to wartime Bush and Romney had little chance against Obama.

Trump was the "Anybody but Hillary!" candidate but, ultimately, I think she lost it more than he won it because overall turnout was relatively low. If she'd had more people actually excited about her, I think she would've easily won the electoral AND the popular vote.

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152. "absolutely"
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we'll see how he does as president but Bush seems like an angel compared to Trump.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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138. ""You're likeable enough, Hillary". Obama caught that body 8 years ago."
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Trump just put that bodybag, in a bodybag.

That statement was patronizing and unnecessary, but it was clear that he already knew what time it was with her candidacy. Sadly I was among those people who believed that either

1. There were enough people out there who genuinely liked her as a candidate, and wanted to vote for her.
2. The alternative (Trump winning) was so ridiculous that people would rally behind her out of fear.

So even though I supported Sanders initially, I'm still eating crow. But I'm going to put as much hot sauce on this crow as I can.

  

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146. "Donald Trump is moving to the White House, and liberals put him there:"
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/09/donald-trump-white-house-hillary-clinton-liberals

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171. "This quote right here is everything..."
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"The even larger problem is that there is a kind of chronic complacency that has been rotting American liberalism for years, a hubris that tells Democrats they need do nothing different, they need deliver nothing really to anyone – except their friends on the Google jet and those nice people at Goldman. The rest of us are treated as though we have nowhere else to go and no role to play except to vote enthusiastically on the grounds that these Democrats are the “last thing standing” between us and the end of the world. It is a liberalism of the rich, it has failed the middle class, and now it has failed on its own terms of electability."

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147. "Who gets the bigger wake up call faster: White women or uneducated YT me..."
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I am resentful and hateful towards the fuckers that voted him in knowing how bad he is.

This is the equivalent of selecting a grade schooler to run Apple.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

"root for everybody black haters say that's crazy, wow..."

  

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148. "In a weird fucked up way, White women won"
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Assuming things like wage equality still moves (well now crawls) towards being a respectable number the meager improvements they can say happened in the last few years off progressives back they can fool themselves into thinking it was the conservatives.

White men will just keep on blaming everyone tho

  

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149. "My gut tells me both are pretty much doomed at this point "
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and my hope is that those of us who don't side with them or otherwise live among them due to no choice of our (or our ancestors) own will be spared their fate.

  

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151. "legsdiamond called it"
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he's been talking a while about voters bullshitting pollsters about Trump, and we all blew it off.

bradley effect type shit

congrats?

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155. "yep, I was wary of the same thing"
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158. "i was too but i thought there would be a similar dynamic for hillary"
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mainly because i knew so many people voting for her that just weren't vocal about it because it wasn't worth the trouble arguing about it.

but thinking about it, it's not like they would feel the need to lie to pollsters so that was probably dumb to compare

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159. "Nah... no congrats for that shit. "
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My worst fears came true.

Not sure why pundits and others are shocked. The GOP primary voter tally was huge this year.

Did people really think the general would be mostly Hilldawg voters?

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163. "I was scared as fuck but i knew deep down this wouldn't happen"
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then it did

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170. "Well, technically the error was in the turnout models, not the preferenc..."
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Or so the FiveThirtyEight people have been saying.

It wasn't that people weren't saying who they'd vote for. It was pollsters incorrectly estimating what the turnout would be in each demographic group.

  

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177. "(which is a big part of what we've been saying) "
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190. "for months"
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screaming it

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156. "Barack screamed on black folk, but shut his mouth to white suburbia..."
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dude should be ashamed of himself

  

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157. "YT Suburbia was gonna turn out for Barack? He played the game right."
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HIS people came out, more then expected.

The problem was that Hillary's people didn't. She's the one who was going to be the effective seller to the soccer moms and they were not buying

  

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162. "Real talk.. a lot better of women don't think a woman should be presiden..."
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I heard plenty of Black church folk say this back when Obama was running against Hillary. I think white women prolly felt the same way. Sure college educated feminist don't feel this way but a lot of soccer moms prolly do.

Another issue I think people misjudged was the locker room talk. The media was clutching all types of pearls on a hot mic. OKP as well. I think a lot of dudes on here and the media got caught up in the moment and thought it was a game changer.

Women, ESPECIALLY white women... don't give a a fuck about that little convo. That's some '"boys will be boys " shit.

Remember Jesse Jackson said he wanted to cut Obamas nuts off. HIS NUTS!!!

In the end I think we just misread white women and tried to clutch their pearls for them.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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160. "Yep"
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>dude should be ashamed of himself

Don't Boo vote. Now what he got to say.

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161. "For the first time ever, i saw someone wearing one of those stupid hats"
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today. a little 50-something lady in Costco

i know a few Trump supporters but i've never actually seen one of those red hats in person

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165. "they coming out the bushes like a fan of a historically sorry team"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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173. "I'm choosing for now to not acknowledge them. "
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I ran into a white families today that tried the normal, walk where I was going and then force me to go around them.

But I just stood there today waiting. Looking ahead. As they realized they weren't gonna win that small battle.

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167. "that Dow had an 1100-point swing between the futures last night"
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and the intraday (all-time) high today..

what a complete farce.

  

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168. "One thing is very certain"
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The next season of Veep will be quite lit, as the kids say.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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169. "Thought Veep was finished / done?"
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183. "The next season is the final one if I'm not mistaken."
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"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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174. "bernie or bust for folks = bust, level of stupidity is unbelievable"
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176. "i bet if you compared how many of bernie's people from 2016"
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who voted for hillary

and how many of bill's people from 1992 who voted for hillary.

there wouldn't even be a discussion about this.

  

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178. "Gary Johnson voters are not Bernie or Busters."
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They are Independents who are not Democrats or Republicans who rejected Trump AND Hillary.

*maybe* Stein voters are Bernie or busters. But that turned out to be a minority of the vote.

Gary Johnson's votes would have flipped red swing states blue.

So know what is stupid? Telling Independents they cant participate in your primary or convention (cause they would vote for Bernie) but then jerk them, get exposed, and be suprised when they don't come support you in the general.

Hillary was not running for President of the Democratic Party. She needed to appeal to Democrats, Republicans, and everything in between. She lost the damn Rust Belt smh

You want someone to blame? Blame the DNC for pushing the candidate with known and hidden negatives who polled EVEN with Trump coming out of the nominations.

No coincidence that Bernie polled +13 over Trump and after the convention Johnson went from 4 points up to 12. Those votes never came back to the DNC, and it was the DNC that shooed them away and said they didn't need them.

Worst campaign strategy in a looooonnngggggg time.

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180. "well, now trump is prez, be real careful on your surroundings next few y..."
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181. "Where the fuck was the Illuminati?"
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185. "they play both sides so they'll always win."
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They aren't shook about shit haha

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182. "tons of otherwise unspoken chauvinists showed up"
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according to a knowledgeable Twitter feed who had been keeping a close watch, large groups of men who were never loud at rallies or on social media came out en masse for him

also she wasted time trying to win black people and never convinced women she was fit for the job

  

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186. "so the popular vote is settled now"
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smh at people buying the "silent majority" narrative, when the actual majority got its pick silenced by a backwards system. I can't see the system changing soon though, the rural interests are too entrenched.

Demographics will work against it at some point, but gotdamn is it a slow and frustrating evolution

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188. "I ain't mad at the EC system"
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it makes sense. You look at maps, especially the one that shows red and blue votes by county and the blue is scarce, in big cities is why she won popular vote and by less than 1% overall so not like it was a big proportion. LA and NYC has the majority of the nation. If you would only go by popular vote, nobody would bother campaigning in the Midwest. As much as you disagree with them, they should still be heard.

Trump got about the same amount of votes as Romney did in 2012. Hillary got way fewer than Obama. People didn't turn out to support her and that is why she lost. I've accepted it, its DNC fault mainly, but time to move on.

  

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189. "so you're OK with the idea that not everyone's vote should count the sam..."
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193. "it's a very hard problem to solve."
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the largest populations are in dense city areas, which are largely democratic or at least more culturally diverse and open to change.

living in a state where Omaha is 50/50 blue/red and the rest of the state, save Lincoln, is overwhelmingly red, I understand why you wouldn't want to silence the voices of 90% of the state's land mass, even if the state only has 600,000 residents of its nearly 2 million living outside the Omaha metro.

I agree that the popular vote winner losing seems fucked up on its surface, but if you give California / New York / Texas too much power over the rest of the country, what's the point of having 50 states?

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196. "you're ok with civil war or succession?"
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Do you know what would happen if say 10 populous states wins an election when the other candidate wins 40 states?


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209. "The popular vote has issues, too. 51% decides for the other 49%"
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*potentially. Also, this two-party system really screws us as far as having choices.

  

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227. "Some move towards splitting up EVs proportionally would probably help."
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187. "she lost the rust belt.."
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NAFTA, TPP, attacking the coal industry, etc...
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191. "Hil-heads yelled us all down about what a political genius she was too"
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Like, they made it sounds like she and her campaign were playing 3 dimensional chess to Trump's Go Fish.

One person on here even tried to give her credit for Trump's fumbles, which was even odd at the time.


But then you read up on the campaign, and it was a f*cking joke.

Taking certain states for granted, not having a strong presence in WI, etc.

Plus the infighting about her message, which some of us have said since DAY ONE

A lot of us said her message can't just be "not Trump!"


She and her campaign never made a case to vote FOR her. They ran an unlikable candidate with no message and little no presence in certain states.

It's like they ran a campaign from '04. Oh wait...

  

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195. "business genius >> political genius..."
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He outflanked her & snuck behind what she thought was a blue wall...

Midwest was like:

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197. "he isn't a business genius though. He's a brand"
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(I could be misreading your point, my apologies if so)


Yeah he tapped into anger/racism/fear/establishment hate, etc- some of it on purpose, some of it by accident.


Even at that, he did not win as much as she, her campaign, and her party lost.


We kept being yelled down by Hil-heads that she and her people were on another level politically.

This anointed-yet-disliked candidate ran a campaign with no message and ignored certain states.


A "political genius" lost PA for the dems? WI?

smh

  

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199. "How do you not go back to Michigan? "
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She lost to Bernie and still had the nerve to ignore Michigan.

The problem with Hilldawg is she took a lot of votes for granted.

The people you talk about who shouted us down on okp. They must have worked for Hilldawg because her team acted the same way.

"How dare you ignorant sexist, misogynist question her genius?"

She lost Wisconsin b. Ohio, Michigan.

This is what happens when people surround themselves with "friends" and scared men who wont speak up and tell them they are wrong. People in Hilldawgs camp were scared of her. Scared to give her bad news. Bringing her cakes and sweets before telling her she lost a primary in NH vs Bernie.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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201. "Exactly..."
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>She lost to Bernie and still had the nerve to ignore
>Michigan.
>
>The problem with Hilldawg is she took a lot of votes for
>granted.
>
>The people you talk about who shouted us down on okp. They
>must have worked for Hilldawg because her team acted the same
>way.
>
>"How dare you ignorant sexist, misogynist question her
>genius?"
>
>She lost Wisconsin b. Ohio, Michigan.
>
>This is what happens when people surround themselves with
>"friends" and scared men who wont speak up and tell them they
>are wrong. People in Hilldawgs camp were scared of her. Scared
>to give her bad news. Bringing her cakes and sweets before
>telling her she lost a primary in NH vs Bernie.
>

Reading up on things and looking back in retrospect, it really is like she and her people were dinosaurs. Just completely out of touch.

It really seems like it was a campaign from before Obama. From '04 or earlier.

Taking votes for granted, ignoring states, no message, nothing.

Like they all took a pill that helped them forget everything from 04 and after.

The plan was to just sit around and tell each other and everyone how competent she was.

What a mess.


Oh wait, we got Lebron and Jay-Z or whatever.


This is the political genius?


  

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198. "She had policies on her website tho!!!! "
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192. "few other things..."
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"polls are for strippers"

Remember when we laughed at her dumb a$$? That is inadvertently the smartest thing that has ever and will ever come out of her mouth.

Also, remember when everyone was scared about how unqualified she was to be VEEP and be that close to the codes?

Yikes...


I'm glad I am seeing more accountability out there for the Dem party, I just hope changes happen. Not sure how....


I ALSO think folks need to be looking sideways at everyone from Warren to Booker to Castro to whoever for not bucking the party and getting in the primary.

Sometimes you gotta tell your bosses to f*ck off.

Look what these loyal Democrat soldiers helped get us...



It also hit me today what a terrible VP pick she had my god. I didn't even think about it much at the time, but looking back-

The other side is running a populist non-establishment message, you are succeeding a popular, relatively young, and dynamic BLACK president, and

she picked a quart of Vanilla Ice cream that had a few words in Spanish on the back.


Jesus 2004 Chr!st her campaign and the party really f*cked this up badly.

  

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200. "She may not have won VA without Kaine"
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He wasn't much use otherwise.

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203. "True. But that shows how bad of a candidate she was IMO"
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VA shoulda been a cake walk.

When we said Hillary was hated I don't think people really understood how deep and real it was...

that hate aged like a fine wine

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202. "Ole kissing the wind ass Tim Kaine"
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That dude tried so hard to be tough in his debate he kept interrupting Pence when he was about to put his foot on his mouth.

...and then there's Pocahontas. When Trump called her that it was a wrap.

The big problem with this election was the media. They tried to push a feminist movement and I think progressives found out that a lot of women LIKE men. Especially women in rural areas and suburbs.

We also found out that white women in those areas don't like being told how to vote. All we heard is how they wouldn't vote for him because he said pussy. White teachers and milfs are out here FUCKING students.

I think OKP really had no clue about these white women. These women don't give a fuck.

..and college educated white women? The ones who throw Afro parties and dress up in black face. They vote too.








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205. "White folks are taking this way harder in my fb feed. "
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Black people like "oh, well. let's get to work", "same ole same ole".

White people like "I can't get out of bed! How!?!?"

I generalize, but yeah.


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207. "Same. Liberal white people legit don't know how their cousins operate"
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Maybe they aren't playing dumb after all.

Maybe they are genuinely shocked.

  

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208. "They are shocked.., completely shocked "
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211. "White girl from my office wants to go have a drink and talk about it "
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If I go I know I will eventually have to comfort her and tell her it will be okay and I will officially be a magic negro.



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212. "She wants to know that she's still one of the "good ones""
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Hit her with the Malcolm X/ white college student combo.

  

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214. "White dude at my job asked me what are we gonna do now?"
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I hit him with the real.

I never trusted white america.

Dude is sad as shit and spending all day on FB looking at white people post sad shit.

He also tried to debate with the office idiot.

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223. "so true "
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210. "trump considering jamie dimon for treasury secretary"
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so the guy who ran on anti-establishment/anti-elite wants one of the biggest gangsters ever on wall street to ride wit 'em?

LOL

dimon said he's not interested, but still. day 2 and trump's already contradicting his own platform.

  

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213. "They listed possible cabinet members. Thought it was a joke"
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but if it ain't...still hoping it is...

Rudy Guliani: Attorney General (No police accountability here)
Ben Carson: Department of Education
Newt Gingrich: Secretary of State
Sarah Palin: Department of Interior
Bobby Jindal: Deparment of Human Services

  

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legsdiamond
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215. "Lawd... these white people about to find out. "
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What scares me is I think people are going to work hard as fuck in congress now and it will make these fools look competent.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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PimpTrickGangstaClik
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216. "They say his fam is trying to talk him out of Bannon for Chief of Staff"
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Breitbart Steve Bannon.

i really wouldn't be surprised if he got that Milo dude as Communications Director or Press Secretary

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benny
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217. "yo that first meeting between Newt and Boris Johnson gonna be lit"
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shygurl
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222. "Peter Thiel Said to Join Trump’s Presidential Transition Team"
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-11/peter-thiel-joins-trump-s-presidential-transition-team

Honestly besides literally having the Devil on his team, I can't imagine a worse, more selfish, insular group of savages. Fuck them all.

  

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DJ007
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218. "mood...lol"
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https://youtu.be/Nfrk2UdEOcQ
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GriftyMcgrift
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219. "remember when people are complaining about protestors"
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just rememebr that white folks created a whole seperate political party because of obama

  

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denny
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220. "Wanted to extend a hand to Murph...."
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We didn't always agree but I learned alot from his political knowledge. I've noticed he's absent so if you're reading this Murph....Thanks for your contributions during the election. My real life friends are mostly knuckleheads so I needed an outlet for election talk and this place served well. It's an understatement to say that this entire board is incredibly disappointed....hope you're finding comfort somehow.

  

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legsdiamond
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221. "RE: Wanted to extend a hand to Murph...."
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>We didn't always agree but I learned alot from his political
>knowledge. I've noticed he's absent so if you're reading this
>Murph....Thanks for your contributions during the election.
>My real life friends are mostly knuckleheads so I needed an
>outlet for election talk and this place served well. It's an
>understatement to say that this entire board is incredibly
>disappointed....hope you're finding comfort somehow.
>

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He was a fun guy to chop it up with even tho he was always telling me I was "wrong dawg"

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224. "^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^"
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