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>I don't get why anybody thinks I'm blaming women or feminism, >I said "failure for" but yall keep responding like I said >"failure of". You even quote me saying the "ideology" but >still reach with this notion I'm blaming women, I didn't say >women, woman, or females anywhere in there. I said movement >and ideology, but since I did say "male" and "he" I guess >thats where the reach I'm blaming women is coming from.
Ok, so let me spell this out. If you listened to a rape survivor's whole story and your very first response after the story was "But why did you have so much to drink, you got to be careful." No, this response doesn't seem to directly blame her for what happens, it's indirect. Like I said before,
"Trump's rise is largely due to his racist and anti-immigrant positions, which is why this whole premise you put forward is weird af."
Really, it's very weird as fuck. You don't put blame on "woman," "women," "females," etc. but your indirect message is what's strong here, because of my statement above. You pull this reasoning out of left field when hardly anybody would be attributing this to Trump's rise. Thus, as many in this post prob agree, this viewpoint seems to be more a reflection of you than it is the reality of the situation. What that is tho, I can't call it.
Also, you can't talk about feminism and really think that you're not referring to women. Women have been the architects of feminism. For example, when the small section of clowns within #BLM try to put forward that black feminism is a racist conspiracy to tear down the movement and black brothas, they are indirectly blaming black women for not being loyal to the movement (but of course they've specifically targeted black women activists, so I guess that makes it more direct) and are preventing black women from having complete freedom, what we're supposed to be fighting for, within the movement. With all the coded language of racism and sexism that flies these days, we know the indirect can sometimes be even more powerful, fam.
>and I disagree with your first quote, you say we don't feel >the power of feminism but it's been in media my whole life, >that has nothing to do with conservative complaints or only >when people get in trouble, that's not what I meant and that's >why yall should really ask questions before going off with >these assumptions. From sitcoms and cartoons, "girl power", >cosmetics campaigns, slut walks and take back the night, >literature, "this is what feminist looks like" shirts, there's >a whole lot of media out there that stems from feminism. and >if a message becoming prevalent and celebrated isn't feeling >the power then what is?
So, I never said feminism isn't powerful. I disagreed with your assertion, which I think is critical to your point, that feminism is "more prominent in the media than any overly religious or conservative message." That imo is flat out wrong. Feminist thought is definitely at greater visibility than ever before, but it's not more powerful than, well, sexism and racism, at least right now. I mean I've been shocked at the run-of-the-mill, textbook Law & Order-SVU type reactions, the kind that blame victims, to all of the recent rape allegations against various celebrities. I know I shouldn't be, because it does seem silly to suggest it should. But with all these television shows and crime dramas that regularly talk about rape, rape victims, and the perfectly normal and understandable contradictions of assault victims' behaviors (SVU and Criminal Minds in particular are still top crime dramas in terms of viewership), that shit has done nothing. In other words, the prominent visibility of these issues has not been the catalyst for, say, putting sexists like Trump in their place. #NP: Janelle Monae-DC, Pusha T-Daytona, Royce-Book of Ryan, Blue Note All-Stars-OPOV, Chris Dave/Drumhedz-Glow, Conway-GOAT, Black Milk-Fever, KRIT-4eva Is a Mighty.., Phonte-NNIGN, August Greene, Jericho Jackson @LargesseMorlu
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