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Atillah Moor
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"would it make sense to live broadcast the moon landing? "


  

          

This isn't a "did we land on the moon" question. It's about public safety and keeping mass hysteria at bay.

Would it make sense for our or any government to live broadcast an unprecedented event such as landing on another planet or planetoid without knowing what the cameras would capture?

War of the worlds was broadcast in 1938 and created a panic among the populace. Thirty years later we landed on the moon and apparently it's barren, but what if it wasn't and the cameras had caught something inexplicable? Wouldn't there be a much larger panic as a result? Seems like something such as that a government would want to control as much as possible.

Just something I was thinking about.

  

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well it wasnt our first "visit" to the moon
Sep 25th 2016
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I'm sure there were protocols in place but how was it not our 1st visit?
Sep 25th 2016
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      we had sent several spacecraft to the moon previously
Sep 25th 2016
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      True but it was easier to control the narrative of the data collected
Sep 25th 2016
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           im saying they had plenty of information from previous trips
Sep 25th 2016
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           That's the point. They weren't exactly worried about that.
Sep 26th 2016
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                Perhaps, but the "Battle of LA" apparently is a real event
Sep 26th 2016
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                     I've always been fascinated by the BOLA
Sep 26th 2016
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                          same here
Sep 26th 2016
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                               Do you have a theory?
Sep 26th 2016
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      re: mitigating the problem
Sep 25th 2016
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           Basically yes, but I agree they would have likely been able to deal
Sep 25th 2016
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Live broadcast to prove they actually landed on the moon
Sep 26th 2016
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Sigh.
Sep 26th 2016
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Differences of opinion causes you to passively-aggressively sigh?
Sep 26th 2016
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      You still think the moon landing was a hoax.
Sep 26th 2016
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           This is plain appeal to ridicule, man. I've never said anything like thi...
Sep 26th 2016
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                I know what it is, that's why I wrote it. I made faulty assumptions
Sep 26th 2016
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Not quite understanding. FWIW I'm not saying we didn't land there
Sep 26th 2016
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      I'm saying that broadcasting the landing would shut up the doubters
Sep 26th 2016
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           You don't believe the color photos that exist now are valid?
Sep 26th 2016
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                That's beside the point, right?
Sep 26th 2016
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                     You're saying they should go and film another?
Sep 26th 2016
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a slight delay would make sense.
Sep 26th 2016
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Technically, I think a slight delay is unavoidable because of the distan...
Sep 26th 2016
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janet jackson's titty & kanye's mouth were enough to get a delay
Sep 26th 2016
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this is how I'm atm. It's totally possible both can be true
Sep 26th 2016
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GriftyMcgrift
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1. "well it wasnt our first "visit" to the moon"
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so its not like we were going in completely blind

plus im certain that had protocols for every concievable situation including encountering something crazy/hostile and if they were worried about "panic" im sure they had something in place

  

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Atillah Moor
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2. "I'm sure there were protocols in place but how was it not our 1st visit?"
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Sun Sep-25-16 08:58 PM by Atillah Moor

  

          

However, if the cameras were rolling and something unexpected were to be caught a sudden commercial break or feed termination wouldn't be very effective in mitigating the problem. I'd like to think they had something more sophisticated in mind.

  

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GriftyMcgrift
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3. "we had sent several spacecraft to the moon previously"
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_missions_to_the_Moon


Luna 2 and Luna 3 made it successfully

Ranger 4 crashed on the moon

and so on

  

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Atillah Moor
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5. "True but it was easier to control the narrative of the data collected "
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Meaning even if there was some anomaly captured or recorded by those craft we could be kept from knowing much more easily than a live broadcast.

  

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GriftyMcgrift
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6. "im saying they had plenty of information from previous trips"
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to know what they were likely to encounter on the first manned moon landing

  

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Cold Truth
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9. "That's the point. They weren't exactly worried about that. "
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>Meaning even if there was some anomaly captured or recorded
>by those craft we could be kept from knowing much more easily
>than a live broadcast.

Seems like keeping us from knowing anything wasn't a fear they held.

So yeah, without that presupposed fear it makes sense to do a live broadcast for such an incredibly momentous occasion.



  

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Atillah Moor
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14. "Perhaps, but the "Battle of LA" apparently is a real event "
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in light of that -- wouldn't it make sense to have a back up plan? Which I'm sure there was.

  

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Cold Truth
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19. "I've always been fascinated by the BOLA"
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Frankly I'd like to see a movie detailing the actual event that strives to be as accurate as possible.

  

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Atillah Moor
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22. "same here"
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Cold Truth
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26. "Do you have a theory?"
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I dig into it every now and again but never seem to find anything with any real insight.

  

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GriftyMcgrift
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4. "re: mitigating the problem"
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i think you are reaching a little IMO

you are saying "something could happen that could be hard to hide" essentially, yes?

and im saying you are dealing with a group of people who have to basically come up with every terrible scenario imagineable and develop a process for it


i'm say they wouldnt have launched if they didnt feel they'd be able to "mitigate the problem" satisfactorally

  

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Atillah Moor
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7. "Basically yes, but I agree they would have likely been able to deal"
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with potential surprises. I was listening to one of Neal Armstrongs speeches and it's delivery is just so odd that sometimes I wonder if maybe they did mitigate anything that could have caused a panic yet were still able to show some form of video.

  

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flipnile
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Mon Sep-26-16 08:36 AM

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8. "Live broadcast to prove they actually landed on the moon"
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Mon Sep-26-16 08:37 AM by flipnile

          

Eggheads can *allegedly* send robot rovers to mars and a fucking comet, but they ain't sent shit to the relatively close moon. Ok.

  

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Cold Truth
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10. "Sigh."
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flipnile
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11. "Differences of opinion causes you to passively-aggressively sigh?"
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Mon Sep-26-16 09:51 AM by flipnile

          

Just let it go, man. The fact is you can't prove it one way any more than I can the other.

Edit: For real tho, this post is about whether the "next" moon landing should be broadcasted live, and I gave a good reason why it should be. Like it or not, more-solid proof is a legitimate reason to broadcast something like this.

  

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Cold Truth
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18. "You still think the moon landing was a hoax. "
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Mon Sep-26-16 10:34 AM by Cold Truth

  

          

I'll say it again: sigh.

You're right. I cannot disprove that the moon landing was a hoax. Oh I can point to information that you'll dismiss because HOAX! and you can point to information to support HOAX! and we can both just parry each other to death.

Still.

What conversation is there to have here without the obvious rabbit hole? blah blah blah SHEEPLE yada yada yada THEY and THEM blah blah blah MK ULTA MIND CONTROLLED CLONES yada yada yada EVERYONE FAMOUS HAS TO SACRIFICE THE LIFE OF A RELATIVE AND THE EARTH IS FLAT!!!And you can't DISPROVE ANY OF IT! HA! GOTCHA!

-Far as "just let it go"? Well, you also have that option. Feel free to have at it

-The OP wasn't about the broadcasting "next" moon landing live. I just re-read it and didn't see that anywhere.

  

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flipnile
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21. "This is plain appeal to ridicule, man. I've never said anything like thi..."
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Mon Sep-26-16 10:56 AM by flipnile

          

>What conversation is there to have here without the obvious
>rabbit hole? blah blah blah SHEEPLE yada yada yada THEY and
>THEM blah blah blah MK ULTA MIND CONTROLLED CLONES yada yada
>yada EVERYONE FAMOUS HAS TO SACRIFICE THE LIFE OF A RELATIVE
>AND THE EARTH IS FLAT!!!And you can't DISPROVE ANY OF IT! HA!
>GOTCHA!

I'm pretty sure that you're intelligent enough to present your thoughts without stooping to the level of logical fallacies.

In keeping with the OP's OP, I'm not here to debate whether there was a landing or not, rather I wanted to note that video and photographic proof would help to settle the issue (if there can be considered one) once and for all.

  

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Cold Truth
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24. "I know what it is, that's why I wrote it. I made faulty assumptions"
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I have a very low threshold for the tinfoil hat contingent and I absolutely made some assumptions on where you were headed with that.

My bad on that.

In fact, one of those assumptions is that any video or pictorial proof would most likely be met with further scrutiny on some birther shit, like OH YEAH, WHY DIDN’T THEY USE 4K? WHY IS THE VIDEO IN 1080, IF IT WERE REAL THEY WOULD HAVE….”or something.

Not just you, but the moon landing doubters in general.

  

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Atillah Moor
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12. "Not quite understanding. FWIW I'm not saying we didn't land there "
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I believe we did. I'm just puzzled by a few things. Primarily

Neal Armstrong's cryptic message about "Truth's protective layer" what is he referring to?

https://youtu.be/M1vFEwAJZQY?t=25

  

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13. "I'm saying that broadcasting the landing would shut up the doubters"
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At least most of them. At this point in time, I'd want to see some high-quality video footage and photographs. Is that not a legitimate reason to broadcast?

  

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Atillah Moor
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15. "You don't believe the color photos that exist now are valid?"
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20. "That's beside the point, right?"
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Just saying that a live broadcast would offer more (and more substantial) proof for the non-believers.

  

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Atillah Moor
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25. "You're saying they should go and film another? "
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That would shut up most perhaps. lol, but who knows. I'm curious as to why we haven't gone back myself.

  

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16. "a slight delay would make sense."
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27. "Technically, I think a slight delay is unavoidable because of the distan..."
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Only about 1.5 seconds, but that should be enough time to beep out any curses and blur out any nude aliens.

  

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17. "janet jackson's titty & kanye's mouth were enough to get a delay"
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on live televised events.

so why would we allow some space shit to be broadcasted in real time?

  

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Atillah Moor
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23. "this is how I'm atm. It's totally possible both can be true"
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Mon Sep-26-16 11:04 AM by Atillah Moor

  

          

We saw one video they saw another but the audio transmission is the same

  

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