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Subject: "white people, y'all good?"

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Kwesi
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Wed Sep-14-16 08:29 AM

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"white people, y'all good?"

i hardly ever address you directly, but I know you're here.

and it's not because i mean to alienate, I just don't speak your language.

nonetheless, this post is about suicide. and today i want to check in with you.

apparently, white peoples commit suicide at an alarming rate.

men mostly.

why do you think that is? do you have any insight? do you have any relatives that have committed suicide?

i remember when Obama first got into the office - the sadness that filled some of my white co-workers faces that morning was very telling.

are you all (or maybe your older parents) nervous about the future of this country or race?

pressures of living in a society where you're priomised all benefits?

how is it possible to be white AND a loser in America?

if that were my reality, I'd probably be on edge, too.

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Subject	Author	Message Date	ID
May I piggyback?...	Big Kuntry	Sep 14th 2016	1
divide & conquer. COINTELPRO. propaganda. Trojan Horses.	deejboram	Sep 14th 2016	2
speaking of, if i hear the phrase divide & conquer ONE MORE TIME	Kwesi	Sep 14th 2016	7
lol yup. Cultural norms	Atillah Moor	Sep 14th 2016	19
it's all mental	Crash Bandacoot	Sep 14th 2016	30
White folks own this site?! Ga damn! I read a rumor that a brotha...	Big Kuntry	Sep 14th 2016	27
haha why would anyone want to post on youtube?	KiloMcG	Sep 14th 2016	3
you went to VCU and have a Black wife tho	legsdiamond	Sep 14th 2016	4
well, i went to VCU for grad school...	KiloMcG	Sep 14th 2016	5
grad school? grad school?	legsdiamond	Sep 14th 2016	11
haha	KiloMcG	Sep 14th 2016	12
I laffed	godleeluv	Sep 14th 2016	8
OKP hasn't been a majority Black message board in years.	FLUIDJ	Sep 14th 2016	9
nah dude, it's still majority black	KiloMcG	Sep 14th 2016	13
thematically = culturally? how does that make you feel?	Kwesi	Sep 14th 2016	15
why not? The Chinese and Koreans do it. Seems to be working too lol	Atillah Moor	Sep 14th 2016	20
RE: thematically = culturally? how does that make you feel?	SeV	Sep 14th 2016	24
SPOT ON. It's always made me feel "some kinda way"	FLUIDJ	Sep 14th 2016	51
it's wypipo on this board that say nigga more than me.	deejboram	Sep 14th 2016	54
IRL or on the board?	PROMO	Sep 14th 2016	56
on these boards fool!	deejboram	Sep 14th 2016	69
name names	KiloMcG	Sep 14th 2016	84
you for one.	deejboram	Sep 14th 2016	90
None of them say nigga. And they like the only white dudes here.	astralblak	Sep 14th 2016	116
Definitely not the only ones.	Boogie Stimuli	Sep 15th 2016	117
you think they the types of whites who look for edited versions of our	Kwesi	Sep 15th 2016	119
Is talking bad about black women/affairs not as bad as saying NIGGA?	deejboram	Sep 15th 2016	121
do you think that white people shouldn't have opinions on/critcisms abou...	PROMO	Sep 15th 2016	153
It's best to just shut up about it. For example...	Boogie Stimuli	Sep 15th 2016	161
i hear you.	PROMO	Sep 15th 2016	166
I like you Boogie.	denny	Sep 15th 2016	243
RE: I like you Boogie.	Boogie Stimuli	Sep 15th 2016	244
I said I've never seen them say it. That's all I can state as fact. n/m	Boogie Stimuli	Sep 15th 2016	139
Oh wait, I'm lying.	Boogie Stimuli	Sep 15th 2016	149
yeah, i remember when Nodima said he actually uses it	astralblak	Sep 16th 2016	273
mr. hood white? nah, really... wow	astralblak	Sep 16th 2016	272
lol, yeah that one surprises alotta people	Boogie Stimuli	Sep 19th 2016	337
what about the asian dude from the bay who went to SDSU?	deejboram	Sep 19th 2016	339
Talk sooooo bad about the state of black affairs.	deejboram	Sep 15th 2016	120
To be fair he was most likely reading from your playbook	Cold Truth	Sep 15th 2016	205
Double	KiloMcG	Sep 15th 2016	122
Hold up, me for one what?	KiloMcG	Sep 15th 2016	123
Its still mostly black	BigReg	Sep 14th 2016	53
well, u raise a good point.	PROMO	Sep 14th 2016	55
Lol. What border you on.	astralblak	Sep 15th 2016	118
over half them dont even post, Sev??? O_E not in GD	deejboram	Sep 15th 2016	124
me and desus are white fyi	Rjcc	Sep 16th 2016	262
lol	astralblak	Sep 16th 2016	271
i can only speak for myself...	PROMO	Sep 14th 2016	41
i'm southern. never lived anywhere that wasn't at least 30% black	bearfield	Sep 14th 2016	91
I always enjoy reading your post on music, you on soundcloud?	Big Kuntry	Sep 14th 2016	95
thank you. i really appreciate that	bearfield	Sep 14th 2016	99
look at this beautiful shit happening all up and down this post.	Kwesi	Sep 14th 2016	109
good job Kwesi	Lil Rabies	Sep 14th 2016	115
AWWW shit and you got my favorite screen name...	Big Kuntry	Sep 15th 2016	142
I wish I was but, nah I'm not a DJ....	Big Kuntry	Sep 15th 2016	143
Irish/German/Pennsylvania Dutch and accounted for sir.....	DeepAztheRoot	Sep 19th 2016	334
you're embarrassing me...	Trinity444	Sep 14th 2016	6
... you can change him but you can't change me!	Kwesi	Sep 14th 2016	10
The first rule of White Club is "Do not talk about White Club"	Atillah Moor	Sep 14th 2016	14
Ever hear of depression? This is a really stupid post but, carry on	mellowboogie	Sep 14th 2016	16
HIT! This is how you dogs get HIT!(C)Mos	NoDrawls McGraw	Sep 14th 2016	17
besides domestic abuse what's there to be depressed about?	Atillah Moor	Sep 14th 2016	18
dude, smh....	KiloMcG	Sep 14th 2016	22
lmao... dude said your white, why worry	legsdiamond	Sep 14th 2016	26
not really when you look at the effects of the dominant culture	Atillah Moor	Sep 14th 2016	52
K	KiloMcG	Sep 14th 2016	60
There's that first rule for you	Atillah Moor	Sep 14th 2016	63
uh huh	KiloMcG	Sep 14th 2016	85
why are you replying at all? You've obviously shutdown	Atillah Moor	Sep 14th 2016	87
You're not saying anything worth replying to.	KiloMcG	Sep 14th 2016	106
Ditto	Atillah Moor	Sep 15th 2016	132
a black mesage board makes you feel better about yourself?	legsdiamond	Sep 14th 2016	21
haha, he was addressing the suicide part of the OP.	KiloMcG	Sep 14th 2016	23
thx... i didnt read all that shit in the OP	legsdiamond	Sep 14th 2016	25
smh...	Trinity444	Sep 14th 2016	28
niggas?	legsdiamond	Sep 14th 2016	35
you read it right...	Trinity444	Sep 14th 2016	38
I'm hurt	legsdiamond	Sep 14th 2016	62
makes you wonder how the people who use the world feel	Atillah Moor	Sep 14th 2016	67
RE: makes you wonder how the people who use the world f	Trinity444	Sep 14th 2016	75
I don't know -- the way you two carry on lol	Atillah Moor	Sep 14th 2016	79
lol	Trinity444	Sep 14th 2016	72
have you any idea the source of the depression?	Kwesi	Sep 14th 2016	32
please read up on major depressive disorder	KiloMcG	Sep 14th 2016	33
no really, what's depressing about being a white guy?	Kwesi	Sep 14th 2016	43
ok, i see you're not going to read. i'll play along.	KiloMcG	Sep 14th 2016	44
i clicked. scanned. but - without a clear cause?	Kwesi	Sep 14th 2016	45
i'm not a psychologist, ftr.	KiloMcG	Sep 14th 2016	47
Didn't Abraham Lincoln suffer from depression?	Atillah Moor	Sep 14th 2016	70
depression or bipolar disorder, i don't remember which.	KiloMcG	Sep 14th 2016	86
right and he never took his own life and he became president	Atillah Moor	Sep 14th 2016	88
Aiight dude, you're clearly coming from a place of ignorance when it com...	KiloMcG	Sep 14th 2016	105
The question is what do white men have to be depressed about?	Atillah Moor	Sep 15th 2016	130
Not trying to be slick at all, but mental illness is real and effects a ...	KiloMcG	Sep 15th 2016	133
and Steph Curry is really good at basketball	Atillah Moor	Sep 15th 2016	147
i do not disagree with you that it does in fact seem odd	KiloMcG	Sep 15th 2016	168
fair enough and well said	Atillah Moor	Sep 15th 2016	180
are we though if 2/3rds live above poverty	Atillah Moor	Sep 14th 2016	61
why are you so negative if thats the case?	legsdiamond	Sep 14th 2016	64
Just a reflection of the surrounding environment I guess	Atillah Moor	Sep 14th 2016	71
good post	Crash Bandacoot	Sep 14th 2016	29
no it's not...	Trinity444	Sep 14th 2016	36
cant get along amongst ourselves? most of us get along famously!	Kwesi	Sep 14th 2016	42
you know what...my bad	Trinity444	Sep 14th 2016	48
RE: you know what...my bad	legsdiamond	Sep 14th 2016	65
Trin have you ever visited Stockholm?	Atillah Moor	Sep 14th 2016	73
why are you asking me that?	Trinity444	Sep 14th 2016	80
Some of your replies seem a little syndrome like	Atillah Moor	Sep 14th 2016	81
damn...	Trinity444	Sep 14th 2016	83
okay, but is it fair to question the so called blackness of others	Atillah Moor	Sep 14th 2016	89
yes...	Trinity444	Sep 14th 2016	97
So where is this goalpost at?.....	NoDrawls McGraw	Sep 15th 2016	145
that's not what I'm saying...	Trinity444	Sep 15th 2016	151
I can dig it....	NoDrawls McGraw	Sep 15th 2016	154
what really makes this burn so much for you?	Kwesi	Sep 15th 2016	156
youre being an asshole...	Trinity444	Sep 15th 2016	159
im out here working hard for you and you talk to me like this in front	Kwesi	Sep 15th 2016	162
be glad I didn't punch you in the face...	Trinity444	Sep 15th 2016	164
she is an *all lives matter	legsdiamond	Sep 15th 2016	175
http://imgur.com/rWGLuUX	NoDrawls McGraw	Sep 14th 2016	94
what are your theories?	makaveli	Sep 14th 2016	76
i was at concert at the 9:30 club in DC	Crash Bandacoot	Sep 14th 2016	31
lmao	legsdiamond	Sep 14th 2016	37
Do you ever wonder what he would have said if the answer was yes?	Atillah Moor	Sep 14th 2016	74
on some magician shit, he coulda said that to keep the other whites away...	Kwesi	Sep 14th 2016	112
That or he was hoping they were familiar and when they said no	Atillah Moor	Sep 15th 2016	152
this	Crash Bandacoot	Sep 15th 2016	176
wait, white men commit suicide at an alarming rate? compared to other	SooperEgo	Sep 14th 2016	34
yep	ambient1	Sep 15th 2016	134
masterful	mikediggz	Sep 14th 2016	39
white dude at the hood bar was talking about having. dyslexia	legsdiamond	Sep 14th 2016	92
if you think being a white male puts all the cards in ur favor	Jon	Sep 15th 2016	126
we not typing about the world, we typing about america.	Kwesi	Sep 15th 2016	127
yeah clearly white society is at a huge disadvantage	Atillah Moor	Sep 15th 2016	150
Who ever suggested that?	Jon	Sep 15th 2016	182
RE: if you think being a white male puts all the cards in ur favor	Atillah Moor	Sep 15th 2016	190
more than enough dfor what and depends on all other factors	Jon	Sep 15th 2016	241
more than enough for success and the factors favor whites too	Atillah Moor	Sep 16th 2016	255
youre at the top of the food chain my friend. please accept and embrace	mikediggz	Sep 15th 2016	198
racially white people are. yes. racially speaking only.	Jon	Sep 15th 2016	240
white men run america...translation: your club runs america.	mikediggz	Sep 16th 2016	254
Nope every aspect of American society is dominated by whites	Atillah Moor	Sep 16th 2016	256
Every white doesn't run America	Jon	Sep 16th 2016	259
you start out with more than a leg up. if you dont see it your privilege...	mikediggz	Sep 16th 2016	264
You're arguing a strawman now. I never denied white privilege.	Jon	Sep 16th 2016	312
and that's not what I said	Atillah Moor	Sep 16th 2016	287
Then what are you saying? Can a black man be suicidal even if	Jon	Sep 16th 2016	314
suicide is such a foreign concept to me.	PROMO	Sep 14th 2016	40
Our suicide rates ain't exactly something to be cheering at tho	BigReg	Sep 14th 2016	46
r white ppl suicidal rates higher than other demographics?	thegodcam	Sep 14th 2016	49
RE: r white ppl suicidal rates higher than other demographics?	denny	Sep 14th 2016	57
They have zombies in Haiti -- suicide doesn't work	Atillah Moor	Sep 14th 2016	68
u postin real caucasian right now	thegodcam	Sep 14th 2016	100
shrinking privileges. They hearts clinch a lil from hearing happy blacks	kevlar skully	Sep 14th 2016	50
which makes no sense	Atillah Moor	Sep 14th 2016	77
so you are saying Marvel characters kill white men	makaveli	Sep 14th 2016	78
Relatively symbolic shit like that is very important to them	kevlar skully	Sep 14th 2016	82
they lost their shit when the Hunger Games character was black	legsdiamond	Sep 14th 2016	93
yeah they lose it regularly over non-white fictional characters	kevlar skully	Sep 14th 2016	98
We're fine - thanks for asking	handle	Sep 14th 2016	58
LMAO you're channeling my ex-husband	janey	Sep 14th 2016	59
LOL!	BigReg	Sep 14th 2016	96
o_O	imcvspl	Sep 14th 2016	110
That is actually pretty revealing	Atillah Moor	Sep 15th 2016	216
I saw a production of Othello this weekend	janey	Sep 19th 2016	346
slits throat motion	deejboram	Sep 14th 2016	66
What's a NILLA gonna do?	biscuit	Sep 14th 2016	101
privilege was the case that they gave me	Atillah Moor	Sep 14th 2016	102
this was a good one.	Kwesi	Sep 14th 2016	103
HA	legsdiamond	Sep 15th 2016	128
Depression is real	go mack	Sep 14th 2016	104
We all got our vices...	Crash85	Sep 14th 2016	107
we do all have our own vices.	Kwesi	Sep 14th 2016	111
Most white people live in magical kingdoms	makaveli	Sep 14th 2016	108
Or female ghostbusters, black guy/white girl in Star Wars or black Presi...	kevlar skully	Sep 15th 2016	171
Why wouldn't they be good?	Kira	Sep 14th 2016	113
I'm good thanks for asking!	GriftyMcgrift	Sep 14th 2016	114
how is it possible to be able-bodied and a loser?	Jon	Sep 15th 2016	125
plenty of tall black people are victims of white supremacy.	Kwesi	Sep 15th 2016	129
It's not Whitey's fault you're a loser, Kwesi.	Cold Truth	Sep 15th 2016	160
rubs eyes am i imagining this reply??	Kwesi	Sep 15th 2016	167
The Color Purple piano scene	Atillah Moor	Sep 15th 2016	181
Meh.	Triptych	Sep 15th 2016	185
apathy?	Kwesi	Sep 15th 2016	186
If you can't take down his shitty argument yourself.	Triptych	Sep 15th 2016	187
i can take the shitty argument 'down'. i just know i'll be met with a ba...	Kwesi	Sep 15th 2016	188
LMAO!!!!!! points and laughs	Cold Truth	Sep 15th 2016	204
*unsubscribe	Kwesi	Sep 15th 2016	206
See, unsubscribing would have meant no response.	Cold Truth	Sep 15th 2016	208
'unsubscribe' has always been an active request to the sender.	Kwesi	Sep 15th 2016	215
I'm not a fucking magazine sub you idiot, your opt out is instant.	Cold Truth	Sep 15th 2016	217
ok. I'm still here. not typing about it. now what? cuss me out so more.	Kwesi	Sep 15th 2016	218
Just can't resist can you? What happened to being done?	Cold Truth	Sep 15th 2016	219
dance, puppet.	Kwesi	Sep 15th 2016	220
Tick tock, Kwesi. How much longer do you think you have here?	Cold Truth	Sep 15th 2016	222
now, do the hustle!	Kwesi	Sep 15th 2016	224
Tick tock, Kwesi. How much longer do you think you have here?	Cold Truth	Sep 15th 2016	226
shake what ya momma gave yaaaaaa!	Kwesi	Sep 15th 2016	227
Not even clever. Just say what's on your mind Kwesi.	Cold Truth	Sep 15th 2016	230
one maca two maca three macarena!	Kwesi	Sep 15th 2016	231
Good boy, asagoodboy! whosagoodboy!	Cold Truth	Sep 15th 2016	233
DROP DOWN AND GET YOUR EAGLE ON!!!	Kwesi	Sep 15th 2016	235
Come on bruh. You know you like being the resident martyr	Cold Truth	Sep 15th 2016	238
LEAN WIT IT, LEAN WIT, ROCK WIT IT, ROCK WIT IT!	Kwesi	Sep 15th 2016	239
RE: LEAN WIT IT, LEAN WIT, ROCK WIT IT, ROCK WIT IT!	SeV	Sep 16th 2016	268
you made this post to bait him into a response	atruhead	Sep 16th 2016	245
i made this post for him?? don't think so highly of yourselves. please.	Kwesi	Sep 16th 2016	247
yes, you made the post for him	atruhead	Sep 16th 2016	260
he's not the only white guy that posts here. but he is the only white gu...	Kwesi	Sep 16th 2016	276
Oh, there are always exceptions. I've said that.	Cold Truth	Sep 16th 2016	277
you really don't get it and I'm glad you're typing all this wack shit ou...	Kwesi	Sep 16th 2016	278
lmao... trust, you'd be in exile without "yt" to distract people.	Cold Truth	Sep 16th 2016	282
aahh. makes sense, youre here to gain more insight about your black wife...	Kwesi	Sep 16th 2016	284
Psst...my wife is intelligent, articulate, and perfectly comunicative	Cold Truth	Sep 16th 2016	290
oh. you thought i really gave a fuck about you or her?	Kwesi	Sep 16th 2016	292
What on earth gave you that impression?	Cold Truth	Sep 16th 2016	293
oh, my bad. hold on for a minute.	Kwesi	Sep 16th 2016	295
That's it.. embrace the dark side	Cold Truth	Sep 16th 2016	299
cold truth, do you have any black friends? or is this your only periscop...	Kwesi	Sep 16th 2016	279
I dunno, ask my wife, or her brothers, uncles, mom, cousins	Cold Truth	Sep 16th 2016	289
im sorry, i really don't care about any of that you just typed.	Kwesi	Sep 16th 2016	294
There we go, the real Kwesi is coming out.	Cold Truth	Sep 16th 2016	296
true. wait right here. i'll be right back.	Kwesi	Sep 16th 2016	297
Almost there fam. I see a ban on the horizon!	Cold Truth	Sep 16th 2016	300
because that's how trolling works	atruhead	Sep 16th 2016	305
i never claimed to be a troll. it's been you alls schtick to paint me as...	Kwesi	Sep 16th 2016	306
swag.	atruhead	Sep 16th 2016	308
He's right. Yall do me the same way.	deejboram	Sep 17th 2016	317
you're not a troll for your dissenting views	atruhead	Sep 17th 2016	318
i have no desire to "get under anyone's skin"	deejboram	Sep 17th 2016	319
yes I can produce proof you're a troll	atruhead	Sep 18th 2016	330
His whole act is basically Doug Williams concience	Cold Truth	Sep 16th 2016	250
lol @ adding a racial angle. typed out like a true out-of-touch cracker....	Kwesi	Sep 16th 2016	251
Timeout: WOW@this shit right here:	Cold Truth	Sep 16th 2016	261
yes. you. go find a place where race isn't an issue.	Kwesi	Sep 16th 2016	265
O.O	Cold Truth	Sep 16th 2016	266
here, i'll help you start.	Kwesi	Sep 16th 2016	267
you mean there's more than one factor at play in someone's life?	Jon	Sep 15th 2016	201
RE: white people, y'all good?	willothewisp	Sep 15th 2016	131
glad you are doing better	makaveli	Sep 15th 2016	135
RE: glad you are doing better	willothewisp	Sep 15th 2016	137
Are you from Eastern or Northern Europe by chance?	Atillah Moor	Sep 15th 2016	148
I'm from Belgium	willothewisp	Sep 15th 2016	157
King Leopold's country right?	Atillah Moor	Sep 15th 2016	158
yep	willothewisp	Sep 15th 2016	163
inability to handle failed expectations and extreme insecurities	ambient1	Sep 15th 2016	136
I may have told this story but i will tell it again	legsdiamond	Sep 15th 2016	138
RE: I may have told this story but i will tell it again	willothewisp	Sep 15th 2016	140
and you are very white	legsdiamond	Sep 15th 2016	141
haha	KiloMcG	Sep 15th 2016	144
RE: haha	denny	Sep 15th 2016	165
I didnt say anything about suicide in my post	legsdiamond	Sep 15th 2016	169
RE: I didnt say anything about suicide in my post	willothewisp	Sep 15th 2016	170
RE: I didnt say anything about suicide in my post	willothewisp	Sep 15th 2016	172
I didnt say anything about suicide in MY post	legsdiamond	Sep 15th 2016	174
I wasn't directly attributing it to you....	denny	Sep 15th 2016	177
it's not because of Obama	makaveli	Sep 15th 2016	173
RE: it's not because of Obama	willothewisp	Sep 15th 2016	179
i'm not sure you meant to respond to me?	makaveli	Sep 15th 2016	183
RE: i'm not sure you meant to respond to me?	willothewisp	Sep 15th 2016	184
So Denny how do white think of white?	Atillah Moor	Sep 15th 2016	189
RE: So Denny how do white think of white?	willothewisp	Sep 15th 2016	191
and away we go!	KiloMcG	Sep 15th 2016	192
Just a sec Willow. I'm listening to Kojo Nnamdi and Kwame Ture atm	Atillah Moor	Sep 15th 2016	194
plays Evening Exchange theme music	Kwesi	Sep 15th 2016	195
I'm listening to Rokia traore, who cares...	willothewisp	Sep 15th 2016	199
Plenty of people kill themselves over situational circumstances	Atillah Moor	Sep 15th 2016	210
RE: Plenty of people kill themselves over situational circumstances	willothewisp	Sep 16th 2016	280
Well glad to hear it and some of what you typed is helpful	Atillah Moor	Sep 16th 2016	285
RE: Well glad to hear it and some of what you typed is helpful	willothewisp	Sep 16th 2016	288
maybe because you are talking about one person	makaveli	Sep 15th 2016	193
Well if one white person turns a blind eye to injustice others will too	Atillah Moor	Sep 15th 2016	211
to be honest...I'd thought you'd agree with me on this.	denny	Sep 15th 2016	196
guys. let's not forget about the data.	Kwesi	Sep 15th 2016	197
RE: guys. let's not forget about the data.	willothewisp	Sep 15th 2016	200
True.	denny	Sep 15th 2016	203
RE: True.	willothewisp	Sep 15th 2016	207
LMAOOOO @ this--> opiate epidemic is disproportionately affecting	ambient1	Sep 16th 2016	269
Feel free to articulate yourself.	denny	Sep 19th 2016	335
i live in a city that had a dope epidemic for the past 25yrs	ambient1	Sep 20th 2016	349
That's why you were laughing your ass off?	denny	Sep 20th 2016	352
for the most part we are and I hate to say it but you're in Canada	Atillah Moor	Sep 15th 2016	213
RE: for the most part we are and I hate to say it but you're in Canada	denny	Sep 15th 2016	242
I had forgotten that men in fact do commit suicide at higher rates	Atillah Moor	Sep 16th 2016	257
simple explanation is that men are more agressive in nature	willothewisp	Sep 20th 2016	347
RE: simple explanation is that men are more agressive in nature	willothewisp	Sep 20th 2016	350
RE: and you are very white	willothewisp	Sep 15th 2016	155
umm.. bye bye	legsdiamond	Sep 15th 2016	178
some of them cant deal with this changing tide at all. See #140	Atillah Moor	Sep 15th 2016	146
^ that sums it all up	Mack	Sep 16th 2016	286
Amo estos posts cuando se ponen con sus peleas raciales	j.	Sep 15th 2016	202
Oop.	SoWhat	Sep 15th 2016	209
De donde eres?	makaveli	Sep 15th 2016	212
Mi Espanol es asi asi	Atillah Moor	Sep 15th 2016	214
too early for an archive?	Kwesi	Sep 15th 2016	221
It'll be a nice marker for your various timeouts, yes.	Cold Truth	Sep 15th 2016	223
sliiiiiiiide to the right!	Kwesi	Sep 15th 2016	225
You're trying soooo hard not to get banned right now.	Cold Truth	Sep 15th 2016	228
whoooop! there it isssssss!	Kwesi	Sep 15th 2016	229
Are you going to your happy place right now?	Cold Truth	Sep 15th 2016	232
i put my hand up on my hip. when i dip, you dip, we dip!	Kwesi	Sep 15th 2016	234
Ooosagoodboy! Goodboy patches, goodboy!	Cold Truth	Sep 15th 2016	236
STEP STEP, SIDE TO SIDE. STEP IN THE NAME OF LOOOOOOOVE!	Kwesi	Sep 15th 2016	237
Yea..u ain't slick bruh	SeV	Sep 16th 2016	283
No idea what the fuck your stupid ass is babbling about	Cold Truth	Sep 16th 2016	291
right.	SeV	Sep 16th 2016	301
Please explain, you mealy mouthed troll	Cold Truth	Sep 16th 2016	302
hahahahha.. this posts asks the question 'white people, you good?'	Kwesi	Sep 16th 2016	303
Sure got me there. It's about to be a banner day for you	Cold Truth	Sep 16th 2016	304
I didn't think an explanation was needed with his thorough Black experie...	SeV	Sep 16th 2016	307
Splain, Lucy, or run along	Cold Truth	Sep 16th 2016	309
Yea yea always the victim	SeV	Sep 16th 2016	310
Pssst... you're the one saying I'm not complicit, dummy	Cold Truth	Sep 16th 2016	311
white people created the city that consumed them	Madvillain 626	Sep 16th 2016	246
A very good synopsis, Duke!	NoDrawls McGraw	Sep 16th 2016	252
Out of interest...	TheAlbionist	Sep 16th 2016	263
RE: white people created the city that consumed them	howardlloyd	Sep 18th 2016	331
Existence. Expectations. Reality.	TheAlbionist	Sep 16th 2016	248
Who could possibly answer why others commit suicide? But a theory	B9	Sep 16th 2016	249
Season 2 of the Wire	okayplayery	Sep 16th 2016	253
Yep.	TheAlbionist	Sep 16th 2016	258
I do think this post is problematic	MiracleRic	Sep 16th 2016	270
it simply mirrors the problematic nature of US society	Atillah Moor	Sep 16th 2016	274
is the post problematic, or do people have problems with the author?	Kwesi	Sep 16th 2016	275
RE: is the post problematic, or do people have problems with the author?	willothewisp	Sep 16th 2016	281
this could have been posted by Jesus himself	MiracleRic	Sep 19th 2016	340
white people do this and black people do that laughs? jesus, guys.	Kwesi	Sep 19th 2016	344
that fine line between sarcasm, insult, and mock-concern.	_deacon_	Sep 16th 2016	298
* Do The Right Thing OKP *	NoDrawls McGraw	Sep 16th 2016	313
starts with an 'a', rhymes a little with chive?	Kwesi	Sep 16th 2016	315
You're another piece of work/shit	Cold Truth	Sep 17th 2016	316
A dude I know committed suicide last week. Young, white male. Made me	mellowboogie	Sep 18th 2016	320
do you still think this post is stupid?	Kwesi	Sep 18th 2016	321
yes	makaveli	Sep 18th 2016	322
why?	Kwesi	Sep 18th 2016	323
It's not because of who you are	makaveli	Sep 18th 2016	325
ok. enough about me.	Kwesi	Sep 18th 2016	328
RE: do you still think this post is stupid?	mellowboogie	Sep 18th 2016	329
Say it one mo gin!	NoDrawls McGraw	Sep 18th 2016	324
did white people ever have culture?	makaveli	Sep 18th 2016	326
I don't dignify rhetorical questions with a response...	NoDrawls McGraw	Sep 18th 2016	327
I don't like your taste in women but i LOVE this response of yours.	deejboram	Sep 18th 2016	332
upon coming to America an Irishman once wrote in regard to slavery	Atillah Moor	Sep 19th 2016	343
I think this is a major factor.	denny	Sep 19th 2016	336
3 in my extended family	DeepAztheRoot	Sep 19th 2016	333
don't know about korea	howardlloyd	Sep 19th 2016	338
not quite	MiracleRic	Sep 19th 2016	341
we talking about Japan? My experience there showed me otherwise	Atillah Moor	Sep 19th 2016	342
You holding the crown now, dog. keep the dream alive.	Binlahab	Sep 19th 2016	345
lol.	atruhead	Sep 20th 2016	348
I WAS FINE UNTIL ANGELINA FILED FOR DIVORCE	janey	Sep 20th 2016	351

Big Kuntry
Member since May 09th 2010
14866 posts

Wed Sep-14-16 08:40 AM

1. "May I piggyback?..."
In response to Reply # 0

As difficult as it is to find majority black message boards, I always wondered why white folks post here. I mean, they can post on YouTube...YOU TUBE, my brotha!

What do they gain from posting here & besides the roots, what brought them here and why do they stay?

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deejboram
Member since Sep 27th 2002
25755 posts

Wed Sep-14-16 08:43 AM

2. "divide & conquer. COINTELPRO. propaganda. Trojan Horses."
In response to Reply # 1

Not ever letting niggas have shit.

And while you bullshittin, this site may have been started by a black man
But just like BET it is owned and run by wypipo now.
Check the management.

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Kwesi
Member since Jan 11th 2004
7370 posts

Wed Sep-14-16 08:55 AM

7. "speaking of, if i hear the phrase divide & conquer ONE MORE TIME "
In response to Reply # 2

in this office ... !

these (white) people throw the phrase around here like it's nothing.

'we need six new executions of this digital ad' - 'well, let's divide & conquer it!'

im constantly cringing like, 'can't they think of something else to say?!'

i later realized that im probably the only one in the room that was indoctrinated with 'colonialism was some bullshit, white people fucked us up by DIVIDING & CONQUERING - don't let it happen again!'

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Atillah Moor
Member since Sep 05th 2013
13825 posts

Wed Sep-14-16 09:42 AM

19. "lol yup. Cultural norms "
In response to Reply # 7
Wed Sep-14-16 09:43 AM by Atillah Moor

remember "off the reservation"? Shit is said so cavalier. Could just as easily be "off the concentration camp" "off the plantation" etc.

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Crash Bandacoot
Member since May 13th 2003
10118 posts

Wed Sep-14-16 10:09 AM

30. "it's all mental"
In response to Reply # 7

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Big Kuntry
Member since May 09th 2010
14866 posts

Wed Sep-14-16 10:03 AM

27. "White folks own this site?! Ga damn! I read a rumor that a brotha..."
In response to Reply # 2

owns ghetto gaggers so I can't be but so surprised.

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KiloMcG
Member since Jan 01st 2008
27561 posts

Wed Sep-14-16 08:47 AM

3. "haha why would anyone want to post on youtube?"
In response to Reply # 1

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legsdiamond
Member since May 05th 2011
79499 posts

Wed Sep-14-16 08:51 AM

4. "you went to VCU and have a Black wife tho"
In response to Reply # 3

****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

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KiloMcG
Member since Jan 01st 2008
27561 posts

Wed Sep-14-16 08:52 AM

5. "well, i went to VCU for grad school..."
In response to Reply # 4

but when i first moved to richmond right after undergrad, all my friends were at VCU, so i spent a lot of time with them doing VCU shit Haha.

but that still doesn't answer my question of why would anyone want to post on youtube?

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legsdiamond
Member since May 05th 2011
79499 posts

Wed Sep-14-16 09:22 AM

11. "grad school? grad school? "
In response to Reply # 5

hmm... lemme think about this one. lol

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

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KiloMcG
Member since Jan 01st 2008
27561 posts

Wed Sep-14-16 09:24 AM

12. "haha"
In response to Reply # 11

yeah, i didn't undergrad at VCU. been in richmond 15 years now, so it's home and i definitely claim VCU.

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godleeluv
Member since Jun 11th 2013
5861 posts

Wed Sep-14-16 08:57 AM

8. "I laffed"
In response to Reply # 3

... Oh, and i sing too!
https://m.facebook.com/jamelabullock
Www.reverbnation.com/jamela

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FLUIDJ
Member since Sep 18th 2002
44611 posts

Wed Sep-14-16 09:19 AM

9. "OKP hasn't been a majority Black message board in years."
In response to Reply # 1

thematically...yes.
but the numbers have been askew for a while.

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KiloMcG
Member since Jan 01st 2008
27561 posts

Wed Sep-14-16 09:24 AM

13. "nah dude, it's still majority black"
In response to Reply # 9

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Kwesi
Member since Jan 11th 2004
7370 posts

Wed Sep-14-16 09:29 AM

15. "thematically = culturally? how does that make you feel?"
In response to Reply # 9

this is a cultural black message board, filled with whites.

we type and discuss black things, in a black way - but who is the 'we'.

what do the white people do with all this black content?

i guess it's like a modern day rap concert.

am i the only one with signs of discomfort about this?

should i just change my name to Greg and get with the program?

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Atillah Moor
Member since Sep 05th 2013
13825 posts

Wed Sep-14-16 09:46 AM

20. "why not? The Chinese and Koreans do it. Seems to be working too lol"
In response to Reply # 15
Wed Sep-14-16 09:47 AM by Atillah Moor

RE: changing your name to Greg lol

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SeV
Charter member
50207 posts

Wed Sep-14-16 09:57 AM

24. "RE: thematically = culturally? how does that make you feel?"
In response to Reply # 15

>what do the white people do with all this black content?
>

Use it do date our women

But they got twitter for that now

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Dallas Cavericks LETS GO!!

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FLUIDJ
Member since Sep 18th 2002
44611 posts

Wed Sep-14-16 11:12 AM

51. "SPOT ON. It's always made me feel "some kinda way""
In response to Reply # 15

>this is a cultural black message board, filled with whites.

>we type and discuss black things, in a black way - but who is
>the 'we'.

We've created a sort of "comfort zone" that sometimes does make me uneasy and feel like OKP has contributed way too heavily to the culture vulture wave of the past 10 years.

>what do the white people do with all this black content?

Shit, I can't call it. Assimilate? I can't even pinpoint if i'm mad about it. Ultimately, I guess not. It's still "ours"...right?

>i guess it's like a modern day rap concert.

Modern day as in since early 2000's? Yep, indeed.

>am i the only one with signs of discomfort about this?

Not at all. But at the same time, it's opened my eyes quite a bit. It's also kinda cool that despite the influx , it's still "thematically" Black.

>should i just change my name to Greg and get with the
>program?

Never change Kwesi. Never.Change.

"Get ready....for your blessing....."

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deejboram
Member since Sep 27th 2002
25755 posts

Wed Sep-14-16 11:26 AM

54. "it's wypipo on this board that say nigga more than me. "
In response to Reply # 15

Talk sooooo bad about black ppl and the state of black affairs.

Shit is rampant.

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PROMO
Charter member
30921 posts

Wed Sep-14-16 11:29 AM

56. "IRL or on the board?"
In response to Reply # 54
Wed Sep-14-16 11:29 AM by PROMO

i haven't seen that on the boards (at least not recently) but i'm not always here.

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deejboram
Member since Sep 27th 2002
25755 posts

Wed Sep-14-16 11:52 AM

69. "on these boards fool! "
In response to Reply # 56

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KiloMcG
Member since Jan 01st 2008
27561 posts

Wed Sep-14-16 01:24 PM

84. "name names"
In response to Reply # 69

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deejboram
Member since Sep 27th 2002
25755 posts

Wed Sep-14-16 02:07 PM

90. "you for one. "
In response to Reply # 84

Jrennolds.
Coldtroof.
Concrete Charlie (you my nigga, you just can't say nigga)
Denny
Vex
Handle
Hardware

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astralblak
Member since Apr 05th 2007
20029 posts

Wed Sep-14-16 11:45 PM

116. "None of them say nigga. And they like the only white dudes here."
In response to Reply # 90

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Boogie Stimuli
Member since Sep 24th 2010
14012 posts

Thu Sep-15-16 12:07 AM

117. "Definitely not the only ones."
In response to Reply # 116

Anonymous
Backbone
Brew (coolest white dude on here, imo)
Nodima
justin_scott
Mr. Hood
Soon
Frank Longo

just to name a few... there are more tho.

but yeah I've never seen any of them say "nigga"
or any variation thereof.

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Kwesi
Member since Jan 11th 2004
7370 posts

Thu Sep-15-16 05:24 AM

119. "you think they the types of whites who look for edited versions of our "
In response to Reply # 117

favorite rap songs?

what word do you think they substitute for 'nigga' as they read this very sentence?

see, they just said it.

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deejboram
Member since Sep 27th 2002
25755 posts

Thu Sep-15-16 05:57 AM

121. "Is talking bad about black women/affairs not as bad as saying NIGGA?"
In response to Reply # 119

they do it
always saying wahts good/bad for black ppl
denny does this
tghe white school teacher in florida does this
Vex does this

go look in that Big Kuntry "what i need from a man" post
they in there
HEAVY

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PROMO
Charter member
30921 posts

Thu Sep-15-16 10:09 AM

153. "do you think that white people shouldn't have opinions on/critcisms abou..."
In response to Reply # 121

black issues in america? even if those opinions/criticisms are constructive?

i'm not judging you based on your answer, btw, just curious to hear what you think about it.

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Boogie Stimuli
Member since Sep 24th 2010
14012 posts

Thu Sep-15-16 10:48 AM

161. "It's best to just shut up about it. For example..."
In response to Reply # 153
Thu Sep-15-16 11:09 AM by Boogie Stimuli

I like Brew for a few reasons, but the fact that
I've never seen him trying to tell Black folks what's
best for us is definitely one of those reasons.

Denny means well, but he's at his best when he's
just asking questions... which he used to do exclusively,
but lately he's crossing the line such as in the post
about Darren Seals.

Philpot aka handle thinks he knows what's best for
Black folks better than Black folks do and is just
straight up annoying. He thinks having a Black wife and
biracial children gives him that right.
Vex is similar in that he thinks attending an HBCU and
working with some organizations makes him an authority
on Black issues. His whole steez reminds me of the guy
who think it's ok to say "nigga" around all Black folks
just because his personal group of friends allows it.

Heinz (Asian) stay trying to tell Black folks how to be
Black such as in the Colin Kaepernick post, so it ain't
just white folks.

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PROMO
Charter member
30921 posts

Thu Sep-15-16 11:07 AM

166. "i hear you. "
In response to Reply # 161

thanks for the poster's race tutorial. i thought ALL those posters were black except for Vex (Heinz is asian?!?!!?)

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denny
Member since Apr 11th 2008
11281 posts

Thu Sep-15-16 08:05 PM

243. "I like you Boogie."
In response to Reply # 161
Thu Sep-15-16 08:22 PM by denny

But there's a dynamic that I just ignore. I am not 'trying to be down'. Nor do I need validation from you. My contribution to that Seals post speaks for itself. I am interested in what you have to say alot of the time...I basically just ignore when you resort to ad hominem replies or silencing opinions or relying on characterization. I'm interested in why you disagree with me about the issues that Seal's death has conjured....but you haven't articulated that. And like anyone else who uses these debate fallacies....you use it selectively. Being white discludes opinions when you don't agree with them. Being white does NOT disclude opinions when you agree with them.

When the point you are making can be made even when your contention is clearly wrong than I will check out. IE Suppose person x contends that Prince was shot by a rifleman working for the CIA. And then person y says 'No...there's an autopsy report'. Then person x rebuts: 'You are white and that's why you trust the autopsy report'. So what worth does that argument really have if it can be used for a position that is clearly wrong?

There are non-white people in this post pondering why white people commit suicide. I think it would be very unproductive if I were to dismiss any opinion that comes from a non-white person.

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Boogie Stimuli
Member since Sep 24th 2010
14012 posts

Thu Sep-15-16 11:29 PM

244. "RE: I like you Boogie."
In response to Reply # 243
Thu Sep-15-16 11:36 PM by Boogie Stimuli

>But there's a dynamic that I just ignore. I am not 'trying
>to be down'. Nor do I need validation from you.

I don't think I've ever accused you of "trying
to be down." That's half the quote. I said
I respect that you "wanna be down for the cause."
That is to say you are willing to speak out against
injustice against Black people. If I'm wrong about,
that, then let me know. As for you needing my
validation, that's none of my concern.

>My contribution to that Seals post speaks for itself. I am
>interested in what you have to say alot of the time...I
>basically just ignore when you resort to ad hominem replies or
>silencing opinions or relying on characterization. I'm
>interested in why you disagree with me about the issues that
>Seal's death has conjured....but you haven't articulated that.
> And like anyone else who uses these debate fallacies....you
>use it selectively. Being white discludes opinions when you
>don't agree with them. Being white does NOT disclude opinions
>when you agree with them.

Beginning at the end of that quote, that only says
that I don't really care about what a white person
brings to the table in a discussion around issues
pertaining to Black empowerment, and I stand by that...
firmly. With that said, I like a good discussion,
so I'll usually entertain all contributions. I found
your contributions to the Darren Seals post naive and
wrong. Naive because we have government documents
saying specifically to target Black Power organizations,
they infiltrated the March on Washington, and countless
other exposed conspiracies pertaining specifically to
Black empowerment in this country. When these cases
are studied, a pattern emerges. Now, for a Black person
NOT to look for the conspiracy or infiltration when
Black people become influential toward actual empowerment,
I think is just flat out dumb and dismissive of the
timeline of our existence in America. For a white person
not to see it... well that's just normal, because white
people aren't targeted like we are. I could have attributed
your naivety to stupidity or non-blackness. I was nice
enough to go with non-blackness.
(As for why I found them wrong, you were confusing collusion
with concert. You can work in concert with white supremacy
without necessarily colluding with white supremacists. Also,
no one in the post accused them of being sent in to introduce
homosexuality to slow down black birth rates. It just
sounding like all your disagreements with any kind of
black nationalism were running together.)

>When the point you are making can be made even when your
>contention is clearly wrong than I will check out. IE Suppose
>person x contends that Prince was shot by a rifleman working
>for the CIA. And then person y says 'No...there's an autopsy
>report'. Then person x rebuts: 'You are white and that's why
>you trust the autopsy report'. So what worth does that
>argument really have if it can be used for a position that is
>clearly wrong?

Eric Garner's autopsy report said he died of a heart attack
when we clearly see him getting choked to death. Sandra
Bland's autopsy report magically says she hung herself. Now you
add this in with what I said above about government documents
that literally say things like separate American blacks from
African blacks, prevent a black messiah, Muammar Ghaddafi's
death, Malcolm X's death, MLK's death, my uncles Bruce's death
when I KNOW he was thrown from a bridge onto a railroad track
by KKK members, the CDC covering up the Tuskegee Experiments,
etc. Like I said, believing paperwork for us is just stupid.
I question. I can't be stopped.

>There are non-white people in this post pondering why white
>people commit suicide. I think it would be very unproductive
>if I were to dismiss any opinion that comes from a non-white
>person.

The big difference here, is that everyone is pretty much
forced to deal with white people in very significant ways
(jobs, loans school, court, etc), considering the population
percentages and the fact that we both live in white-centric
countries, so that's quite a bit different. Despite that
though, I only care about white homicide, so I'm not
one of those people who's coming up with reasons. Second,
I'm not one to tell you how to address people when it comes
to issues plaguing the white community. You have the right
to tell them it's for the white community to figure out if
you want to... or you can listen. That's on you.

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Boogie Stimuli
Member since Sep 24th 2010
14012 posts

Thu Sep-15-16 09:12 AM

139. "I said I've never seen them say it. That's all I can state as fact. n/m"
In response to Reply # 119

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Boogie Stimuli
Member since Sep 24th 2010
14012 posts

Thu Sep-15-16 09:59 AM

149. "Oh wait, I'm lying."
In response to Reply # 139
Thu Sep-15-16 10:00 AM by Boogie Stimuli

Nodima said "dat nigga Daz" one time as a reply
to something. I said "aren't you white"? He was
like "my bad, I was just quoting a line."
That's the only time I've ever actually seen a
white person type "nigga" on here.

Shockzilla and Bombastic are white too btw.
Forgot about them.
I think everybody knows Janey is white by now.

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astralblak
Member since Apr 05th 2007
20029 posts

Fri Sep-16-16 11:17 AM

273. "yeah, i remember when Nodima said he actually uses it"
In response to Reply # 149

or something to that extent irl

either way, we still the majority on this board. by a lot. cuase for every white poster you added there could be another black poster added

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astralblak
Member since Apr 05th 2007
20029 posts

Fri Sep-16-16 11:13 AM

272. "mr. hood white? nah, really... wow"
In response to Reply # 117

soon, don't even post here anymore

true on all the others

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Boogie Stimuli
Member since Sep 24th 2010
14012 posts

Mon Sep-19-16 03:22 AM

337. "lol, yeah that one surprises alotta people"
In response to Reply # 272

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deejboram
Member since Sep 27th 2002
25755 posts

Mon Sep-19-16 05:29 AM

339. "what about the asian dude from the bay who went to SDSU?"
In response to Reply # 117

>but yeah I've never seen any of them say "nigga"
>or any variation thereof.

SDSU = san diego state university

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deejboram
Member since Sep 27th 2002
25755 posts

Thu Sep-15-16 05:53 AM

120. "Talk sooooo bad about the state of black affairs."
In response to Reply # 116

i like how you just cherrypicked my post

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Cold Truth
Member since Jan 28th 2004
44828 posts

Thu Sep-15-16 04:23 PM

205. "To be fair he was most likely reading from your playbook "
In response to Reply # 120

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KiloMcG
Member since Jan 01st 2008
27561 posts

Thu Sep-15-16 06:16 AM

122. "Double "
In response to Reply # 90
Thu Sep-15-16 06:17 AM by KiloMcG

Post

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KiloMcG
Member since Jan 01st 2008
27561 posts

Thu Sep-15-16 06:17 AM

123. "Hold up, me for one what? "
In response to Reply # 90

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BigReg
Charter member
62390 posts

Wed Sep-14-16 11:23 AM

53. "Its still mostly black"
In response to Reply # 9

I think the problem is most of the users thought it was ONLY black, lol

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PROMO
Charter member
30921 posts

Wed Sep-14-16 11:28 AM

55. "well, u raise a good point."
In response to Reply # 53

i'm white but i still don't know the race/ethnicities of many posters and i've been here for 16 years.

i'm still finding out that some OKPs i assumed were black, are not black.

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astralblak
Member since Apr 05th 2007
20029 posts

Thu Sep-15-16 12:09 AM

118. "Lol. What border you on."
In response to Reply # 9
Thu Sep-15-16 12:10 AM by astralblak

Akon
SoWhat
Imcvspl
Big Reg
RjCC
Kwesi
You
Buddy G
Sev
Madvillain626
Big kuntry
Bearfield
Double_neg
Rd hull
Dstl1
Pimptrick
O_E
Dula
Binhalab
Binladen
L fresh
Sarahbellum
Poetx
Brother_Sun
13Rose
Murph
Brooklyn What
Atruhead
Ambient1
Mr. ManC
Castro

Are all Black

Me, Hitokiri, BlackRussian, and I believe soken are all mixed, but identify as Black

The only white folk seem to be the ones listed in response to Deej, add longo, anonymous and Justin Scott

And even bigrob, mynoriti, t-Rey, armistar and guru are POCs

What board is you on?

This board's lack of women, conservatism, and general washed401kness is more lame than its lack of blackness

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deejboram
Member since Sep 27th 2002
25755 posts

Thu Sep-15-16 06:32 AM

124. "over half them dont even post, Sev??? O_E not in GD"
In response to Reply # 118

>Akon
>SoWhat
>Imcvspl
>Big Reg
>RjCC
>Kwesi
>You
>Buddy G
>Sev
>Madvillain626
>Big kuntry
>Bearfield
>Double_neg
>Rd hull
>Dstl1
>Pimptrick
>O_E
>Dula
>Binhalab
>Binladen
>L fresh
>Sarahbellum
>Poetx
>Brother_Sun
>13Rose
>Murph
>Brooklyn What
>Atruhead
>Ambient1
>Mr. ManC
>Castro
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>Are all Black
>
>Me, Hitokiri, BlackRussian, and I believe soken are all mixed,
>but identify as Black
>
>The only white folk seem to be the ones listed in response to
>Deej, add longo, anonymous and Justin Scott
>
>And even bigrob, mynoriti, t-Rey, armistar and guru are POCs
>
>What board is you on?
>
>This board's lack of women, conservatism, and general
>washed401kness is more lame than its lack of blackness

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Rjcc
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Fri Sep-16-16 10:29 AM

262. "me and desus are white fyi"
In response to Reply # 118

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

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astralblak
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Fri Sep-16-16 11:11 AM

271. "lol"
In response to Reply # 262

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PROMO
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Wed Sep-14-16 10:35 AM

41. "i can only speak for myself..."
In response to Reply # 1

>As difficult as it is to find majority black message boards,
>I always wondered why white folks post here. I mean, they can
>post on YouTube...YOU TUBE, my brotha!

have you read any youtube comments? those people are miserable. i'll pass.

>What do they gain from posting here & besides the roots, what
>brought them here and why do they stay?

the roots brought me. i stayed for the posters/posts.

it's really not that complex, is it?

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bearfield
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Wed Sep-14-16 02:13 PM

91. "i'm southern. never lived anywhere that wasn't at least 30% black"
In response to Reply # 1

i've always worked with, over, and under black folk, i've always had black friends, dated black women, etc.

these boards just feel comfortable to me

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Big Kuntry
Member since May 09th 2010
14866 posts

Wed Sep-14-16 02:31 PM

95. "I always enjoy reading your post on music, you on soundcloud?"
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bearfield
Member since Mar 10th 2005
8048 posts

Wed Sep-14-16 03:06 PM

99. "thank you. i really appreciate that"
In response to Reply # 95

i admire your insistence on posting modern rap music on a mostly old head board. you've done a lot for this corner of the internet with regards to keeping it current. are you by any chance a dj? i've heard a "big k/country" spin on 101.1 streetz here in little rock

i think my SC username is bearfield? i'm not on it often

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Kwesi
Member since Jan 11th 2004
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Wed Sep-14-16 09:12 PM

109. "look at this beautiful shit happening all up and down this post. "
In response to Reply # 99

both you guys ought to be celebrated.

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Lil Rabies
Member since Oct 12th 2005
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Wed Sep-14-16 10:08 PM

115. "good job Kwesi"
In response to Reply # 109

You created a healing space

BTW BIg Kuntry (love that your name is also an obscure 80s pop group and a sexual pun...so many layers there's)..I second bearfield.

Taking shots in the dark/that's a bad call
Going straight for your head/ gotta saw it off

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Big Kuntry
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Thu Sep-15-16 09:26 AM

142. "AWWW shit and you got my favorite screen name..."
In response to Reply # 115

Nah I didnt know that, you just put me up on some new shit!

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Big Kuntry
Member since May 09th 2010
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Thu Sep-15-16 09:27 AM

143. "I wish I was but, nah I'm not a DJ...."
In response to Reply # 99

Bet, I'm gonna look you up.

*salute big bruh*

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DeepAztheRoot
Member since Dec 19th 2003
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Mon Sep-19-16 01:14 AM

334. "Irish/German/Pennsylvania Dutch and accounted for sir....."
In response to Reply # 1

>As difficult as it is to find majority black message boards,
>I always wondered why white folks post here. I mean, they can
>post on YouTube...YOU TUBE, my brotha!

You Tube comments section is lacking in intellect as much as Yahoo comments. There have been some weird cats over the years but I do believe most people that still post here are intelligent and have something to say. I think all of the posters such as Desus, Trace, Donwill, etcetera that have been successful is further proof.

>
>What do they gain from posting here & besides the roots, what
>brought them here and why do they stay?

There are a whole bunch of introverted music nerds on here like me. From new music and music discussion, debate of the relevant news of the day and sports discussion. It's always interesting to get the perspective of people around the world who don't have the same life story I do or people around this area do.

<-Fear Ameer

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Trinity444
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Wed Sep-14-16 08:53 AM

6. "you're embarrassing me..."
In response to Reply # 0

😖

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Kwesi
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Wed Sep-14-16 09:20 AM

10. "... you can change him but you can't change me!"
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Atillah Moor
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Wed Sep-14-16 09:24 AM

14. "The first rule of White Club is "Do not talk about White Club" "
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mellowboogie
Member since Jun 26th 2006
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Wed Sep-14-16 09:30 AM

16. "Ever hear of depression? This is a really stupid post but, carry on"
In response to Reply # 0

'Music expresses that which cannot be said and on which it is impossible to be silent. ~Victor Hugo'

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NoDrawls McGraw
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Wed Sep-14-16 09:37 AM

17. "HIT! This is how you dogs get HIT!(C)Mos "
In response to Reply # 16

https://chriswind.bandcamp.com/track/massage

"You can take an African out of Africa, but you can't take Africa out of the African"
Afro-Americana/Afro-Caribbana/Afro-Latino unite. We are ALL Black!

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Atillah Moor
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Wed Sep-14-16 09:40 AM

18. "besides domestic abuse what's there to be depressed about?"
In response to Reply # 16
Wed Sep-14-16 09:41 AM by Atillah Moor

Seems like you all have it pretty good by comparison

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KiloMcG
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Wed Sep-14-16 09:51 AM

22. "dude, smh...."
In response to Reply # 18

no hitdog-o, but this was a very bad reply.

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legsdiamond
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Wed Sep-14-16 10:03 AM

26. "lmao... dude said your white, why worry"
In response to Reply # 22

****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

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Atillah Moor
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Wed Sep-14-16 11:17 AM

52. "not really when you look at the effects of the dominant culture "
In response to Reply # 22

on the lives and cultures of others.

Violence and dysfunction in the home in addition to perhaps the sense of failure that comes from trying keep up with the Jones's is all I can think of that would lead a white male to suicide.

Seems like a small price to pay considering the huge cost in life and well being paid by other cultures to make white identity a valid thing.

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KiloMcG
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Wed Sep-14-16 11:41 AM

60. "K"
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Atillah Moor
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Wed Sep-14-16 11:46 AM

63. "There's that first rule for you "
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KiloMcG
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Wed Sep-14-16 01:42 PM

85. "uh huh"
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Atillah Moor
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Wed Sep-14-16 01:53 PM

87. "why are you replying at all? You've obviously shutdown "
In response to Reply # 85

which is to be expected of course and I don't fault you for it.

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KiloMcG
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Wed Sep-14-16 07:01 PM

106. "You're not saying anything worth replying to. "
In response to Reply # 87

Damnit, I replied again.

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Atillah Moor
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Thu Sep-15-16 07:58 AM

132. "Ditto"
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legsdiamond
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Wed Sep-14-16 09:51 AM

21. "a black mesage board makes you feel better about yourself?"
In response to Reply # 16

damn... maybe I'm reading it wrong but it sounds funny as shit.

****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

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KiloMcG
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Wed Sep-14-16 09:52 AM

23. "haha, he was addressing the suicide part of the OP."
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legsdiamond
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Wed Sep-14-16 10:02 AM

25. "thx... i didnt read all that shit in the OP"
In response to Reply # 23

****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

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Trinity444
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Wed Sep-14-16 10:05 AM

28. "smh..."
In response to Reply # 25

y'all niggas

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legsdiamond
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Wed Sep-14-16 10:22 AM

35. "niggas? "
In response to Reply # 28

****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

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Trinity444
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Wed Sep-14-16 10:25 AM

38. "you read it right..."
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legsdiamond
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Wed Sep-14-16 11:46 AM

62. "I'm hurt"
In response to Reply # 38

****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

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Atillah Moor
Member since Sep 05th 2013
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Wed Sep-14-16 11:51 AM

67. "makes you wonder how the people who use the world feel"
In response to Reply # 62

assuming it's not just jokes between you two flirts

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Trinity444
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Wed Sep-14-16 12:05 PM

75. "RE: makes you wonder how the people who use the world f"
In response to Reply # 67

leave out the flirt stuff - I don't want people to get the wrong impression.

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Atillah Moor
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Wed Sep-14-16 12:10 PM

79. "I don't know -- the way you two carry on lol"
In response to Reply # 75

but I'll tone it down

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Trinity444
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Wed Sep-14-16 12:02 PM

72. "lol"
In response to Reply # 62

well don't piss me off...

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Kwesi
Member since Jan 11th 2004
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Wed Sep-14-16 10:15 AM

32. "have you any idea the source of the depression?"
In response to Reply # 16

conversely blacks are dying of homicide at an alarming rate.

that shit is depressing.

what's depressing about a male, white, world?

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KiloMcG
Member since Jan 01st 2008
27561 posts

Wed Sep-14-16 10:19 AM

33. "please read up on major depressive disorder"
In response to Reply # 32

here's a start:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_depressive_disorder

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Kwesi
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Wed Sep-14-16 10:42 AM

43. "no really, what's depressing about being a white guy?"
In response to Reply # 33

i'd imagine black women should be more depressed.

all the black men around them dying of homicide?

their sons, brothers, fathers?

now THATS's heavy.

oh. and native americans.

JESUS i can see depression running amok with them.

but white guys?

there's a white guy's face on ALL THE MONEY here.

how can that not be inspiring for you?

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KiloMcG
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Wed Sep-14-16 10:48 AM

44. "ok, i see you're not going to read. i'll play along."
In response to Reply # 43

while yes, the risk factors are fewer and protective factors greater demographically among white males, depression is a personal issue that can't be summed up with broad brushed demographics.

also, here's the first sentence from the link i posted above. pay attention to the last few words.

"Major depressive disorder (MDD), also known as simply depression, is a mental disorder characterized by at least two weeks of low mood that is present across most situations. It is often accompanied by low self-esteem, loss of interest in normally enjoyable activities, low energy, and pain without a clear cause."

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Kwesi
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Wed Sep-14-16 10:53 AM

45. "i clicked. scanned. but - without a clear cause?"
In response to Reply # 44

the data is in.

white males do it more than others.

why?

no clear reason?

just random data?

is depression the only reason people commit suicide?

is it the only reason white males are committing suicide?

is it genetic?

you're white, right?

do you know anyone personally who has attempted?

did they seem depressed?

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KiloMcG
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Wed Sep-14-16 11:00 AM

47. "i'm not a psychologist, ftr. "
In response to Reply # 45

>the data is in.
>
>white males do it more than others.
>
>why?

dunno. not feeling like they're living up to societal standard of what a white male in america should be, maybe? again, i dunno.

>
>no clear reason?
>
>just random data?
>
>is depression the only reason people commit suicide?

nah

>
>is it the only reason white males are committing suicide?

doubt it.

>
>is it genetic?

that can certainly be a factor.

>
>you're white, right?

haha yes, DZ, but you knew that already.

>
>do you know anyone personally who has attempted?

i have a good friend from HS who had/has serious mental health issues. not sure if she ever attempted or not. other than that, no i don't think i personally know anyone who has attempted (that i can recall right now at least), other than people/clients i've worked with who are largely Black.

>
>did they seem depressed?

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Atillah Moor
Member since Sep 05th 2013
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Wed Sep-14-16 11:57 AM

70. "Didn't Abraham Lincoln suffer from depression?"
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KiloMcG
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Wed Sep-14-16 01:43 PM

86. "depression or bipolar disorder, i don't remember which."
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Atillah Moor
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Wed Sep-14-16 01:56 PM

88. "right and he never took his own life and he became president "
In response to Reply # 86

and had he just played by the rules of the system created for him and those like him he'd have likely lived whatever a full life was back then. So that being said, what are white men killing themselves over these days when things aren't nearly as tough as they were for whites in Lincoln's day?

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KiloMcG
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Wed Sep-14-16 07:00 PM

105. "Aiight dude, you're clearly coming from a place of ignorance when it com..."
In response to Reply # 88

Mental health and mental illness.

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Atillah Moor
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Thu Sep-15-16 07:45 AM

130. "The question is what do white men have to be depressed about?"
In response to Reply # 105

In a society where everything is geared towards their benefit. No offense, but you are not slick in trying to make this solely about depression. So if you don't know say so.

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KiloMcG
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Thu Sep-15-16 08:16 AM

133. "Not trying to be slick at all, but mental illness is real and effects a ..."
In response to Reply # 130

of people. Black, white and otherwise. That's all I'm sayin, and all I've been saying.

Do I understand your point? Yes, I do. But it's a point being made from an uninformed perspective on mental illness.

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Atillah Moor
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Thu Sep-15-16 09:56 AM

147. "and Steph Curry is really good at basketball"
In response to Reply # 133

We all know depression effects a lot of people.

So your answer to why white men in America, the group that should have the lowest rate of suicide due to depression given how hard they've worked at minimizing the lives and well being of others here and abroad to make their lives easier is as follows:

Depression affects everyone.

And somehow I'm ignorant.

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KiloMcG
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Thu Sep-15-16 11:21 AM

168. "i do not disagree with you that it does in fact seem odd"
In response to Reply # 147

that white males have the highest suicide rate. and you're right, i can't explain that and have not attempted to.

and when i said ignorant i wasn't trying to belittle or demean, i was trying to say that you might not be as informed on mental illness, so in that regard ignorant was meant to mean lacking knowledge. not a personal attack. poor choice of words that may have derailed discussion. you may have a phd in psychology for all i know.

i work, and have for many years, in the mental health arena so it is something that i do have knowledge of and something that i am constantly made aware of and see the effects of on a daily basis.

yes, we live in a white supremacist society. i am in no way dismissing that, and i understand your perspective in regards to suicide rates and that at surface level it seems silly that white males would have the highest suicide rate. but to ME it is difficult to dismiss mental health/illness based solely on demographics and i can not say, as you have, that white males should in no way have anything to be depressed about, because mental health/illness is about more than how society is structured. i treat mental health in the same way as physical health. there are many factors involved with someone getting cancer, for example. same with mental illness.

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Atillah Moor
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Thu Sep-15-16 12:24 PM

180. "fair enough and well said"
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Atillah Moor
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Wed Sep-14-16 11:42 AM

61. "are we though if 2/3rds live above poverty "
In response to Reply # 32
Wed Sep-14-16 11:43 AM by Atillah Moor

and much less than 1/3 are actually engaged in criminal activity?

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legsdiamond
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Wed Sep-14-16 11:48 AM

64. "why are you so negative if thats the case?"
In response to Reply # 61

****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

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Atillah Moor
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Wed Sep-14-16 12:00 PM

71. "Just a reflection of the surrounding environment I guess "
In response to Reply # 64

all the lies, violence, hypocrisy, injustice, ignorance, etc. It just gets to me.

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Crash Bandacoot
Member since May 13th 2003
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Wed Sep-14-16 10:06 AM

29. "good post"
In response to Reply # 0

i have my own theories.

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Trinity444
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Wed Sep-14-16 10:23 AM

36. "no it's not..."
In response to Reply # 29

it makes you guys look like loser..

like, most of the guys in this post - post nothing but negativity when they log on
y'all can't even get along amongst yourselves and wanna talk about white folks, lol

stfu

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Kwesi
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Wed Sep-14-16 10:40 AM

42. "cant get along amongst ourselves? most of us get along famously!"
In response to Reply # 36

to be completely honest - it seems that most of the non-black male posters are the ones that have problems with 'us'?

how this gonna be a 'black' message board, typing about 'black' things, in a 'black' way, but when 'whitey' comes up, everybody scrams and acts embarrassed?

...

i really want to explore what makes this community tick .. but whitey's on the moon - so i guess we have to just shut the fuck up about it??

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Trinity444
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Wed Sep-14-16 11:02 AM

48. "you know what...my bad"
In response to Reply # 42

y'all go head..
i just don't like the tone of this post
especially when your very own blackness is questionable...

K_orr once said, you need at least one white boy (folk) on your team

carry on, boo

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legsdiamond
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Wed Sep-14-16 11:51 AM

65. "RE: you know what...my bad"
In response to Reply # 48

>
>K_orr once said, you need at least one white boy (folk) on
>your team
>

^^^for the cops

****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

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Atillah Moor
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Wed Sep-14-16 12:02 PM

73. "Trin have you ever visited Stockholm? "
In response to Reply # 48

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Trinity444
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Wed Sep-14-16 12:30 PM

80. "why are you asking me that? "
In response to Reply # 73

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Atillah Moor
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Wed Sep-14-16 12:43 PM

81. "Some of your replies seem a little syndrome like "
In response to Reply # 80

as in Stockholm Syndrome

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Trinity444
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Wed Sep-14-16 01:00 PM

83. "damn..."
In response to Reply # 81

nah, I just like to be fair...

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Atillah Moor
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Wed Sep-14-16 02:05 PM

89. "okay, but is it fair to question the so called blackness of others "
In response to Reply # 83

when the very concept of blackness is a result of early European racism and maintained by modern day white culture?

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Trinity444
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Wed Sep-14-16 02:53 PM

97. "yes..."
In response to Reply # 89

it's not reasonable to question white folks motive when yours go unchecked
like, how some are disrespectful to the black woman...

but yeah, i don't deny racism exists
if that's what you want to know...

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NoDrawls McGraw
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Thu Sep-15-16 09:38 AM

145. "So where is this goalpost at?....."
In response to Reply # 97

>it's not reasonable to question white folks motive when yours
>go unchecked
>like, how some are disrespectful to the black woman...

So, by this logic, you take no issue with black-on-black negativity
as long as the negativity isn't directed at black women. But, you're okay with black-on-black negativity if its directed at black men?...

Please clarify, 'cus you soundin suspect right now.

https://chriswind.bandcamp.com/track/massage

"You can take an African out of Africa, but you can't take Africa out of the African"
Afro-Americana/Afro-Caribbana/Afro-Latino unite. We are ALL Black!

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Trinity444
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Thu Sep-15-16 10:00 AM

151. "that's not what I'm saying..."
In response to Reply # 145

by way of example...
this post and his post today are in poor taste
if a white man/girl made some similar - all kind of hell would be raised
just because you claim (OKP) doesn't mean you own it...

we can discuss racism
black man's problems
all that
but it's a better way of doing it

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NoDrawls McGraw
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Thu Sep-15-16 10:10 AM

154. "I can dig it...."
In response to Reply # 151

https://chriswind.bandcamp.com/track/massage

"You can take an African out of Africa, but you can't take Africa out of the African"
Afro-Americana/Afro-Caribbana/Afro-Latino unite. We are ALL Black!

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Kwesi
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Thu Sep-15-16 10:20 AM

156. "what really makes this burn so much for you?"
In response to Reply # 151

we type about black people all up and down this place, every day.

views expressed here aren't always exactly in the bests of tastes.

white people are here reading and typing right along with us.

why not point the subject back at them?

...

why does it make you uncomfortable to type about whites in poor taste, but the many posts & replies about blacks (often authored by whites) doesnt seem to make you uneasy.

....

these are facts we typing about.

pure data.

so with that data, we're attempting to construct a narrative.

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Trinity444
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Thu Sep-15-16 10:36 AM

159. "youre being an asshole..."
In response to Reply # 156

plus you bring the rest out...
you're not qualified to make posts about race

**rolls eyes**

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Kwesi
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Thu Sep-15-16 10:48 AM

162. "im out here working hard for you and you talk to me like this in front "
In response to Reply # 159

of all my new friends??

im just as qualified as any of these other clowns to type about race.

im a fucking freedom fighter for crying out loud!

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Thu Sep-15-16 10:55 AM

164. "be glad I didn't punch you in the face..."
In response to Reply # 162

😜

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legsdiamond
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Thu Sep-15-16 12:06 PM

175. "she is an *all lives matter"
In response to Reply # 156

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

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NoDrawls McGraw
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Wed Sep-14-16 02:26 PM

94. "http://imgur.com/rWGLuUX"
In response to Reply # 81

http://imgur.com/rWGLuUX

Damn Bruh, can't even front. That was a very surgically-accurate response.

https://chriswind.bandcamp.com/track/massage

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Afro-Americana/Afro-Caribbana/Afro-Latino unite. We are ALL Black!

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makaveli
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Wed Sep-14-16 12:06 PM

76. "what are your theories?"
In response to Reply # 29

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

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Crash Bandacoot
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Wed Sep-14-16 10:14 AM

31. " i was at concert at the 9:30 club in DC"
In response to Reply # 0
Wed Sep-14-16 10:14 AM by Crash Bandacoot

can't remember who i saw but, i think it was lupe fiasco. anyway, this white dude
was accompanied by two other whites and he asked them had they ever heard of
okayplayer.com. they said no, and NO LIE, he said that it was a bullshit website. i'll
never forget it.

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legsdiamond
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Wed Sep-14-16 10:25 AM

37. "lmao"
In response to Reply # 31

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

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Atillah Moor
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Wed Sep-14-16 12:04 PM

74. "Do you ever wonder what he would have said if the answer was yes?"
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Kwesi
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Wed Sep-14-16 09:34 PM

112. "on some magician shit, he coulda said that to keep the other whites away..."
In response to Reply # 74

of course he'd want to keep it all for himself.

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Atillah Moor
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Thu Sep-15-16 10:02 AM

152. "That or he was hoping they were familiar and when they said no"
In response to Reply # 112

didn't want to come across as a negro lover by explaining the site.

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Crash Bandacoot
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Thu Sep-15-16 12:11 PM

176. "this"
In response to Reply # 152

>didn't want to come across as a negro lover by explaining the
>site.
>

why did he even bring it up if it's such a bullshit site.

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SooperEgo
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Wed Sep-14-16 10:21 AM

34. "wait, white men commit suicide at an alarming rate? compared to other"
In response to Reply # 0

demographic groups?

that amazes me

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ambient1
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Thu Sep-15-16 08:22 AM

134. "yep"
In response to Reply # 34

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Coolin...

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mikediggz
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Wed Sep-14-16 10:26 AM

39. "masterful"
In response to Reply # 0

for many many years, whenever i see a (what appears to be able bodied) white male on the side of the road with a sign in his hand i always wonder...how were you not able to make it? you had all of the cards in your favor. even the countriest, hickest, rednecked white dude can get a haircut, shave, throw on a sports coat and tie, and appear to be joe blow average white guy. i know education, criminal record, and other factors can deter anyone's ability to maneuver thru the job market and esp corporate america, but i must admit that my first inkling when i see that guy with a sign in his hand is how did u fuck this up?

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legsdiamond
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Wed Sep-14-16 02:19 PM

92. "white dude at the hood bar was talking about having. dyslexia"
In response to Reply # 39
Wed Sep-14-16 02:20 PM by legsdiamond

once he left my boy was like "he's white, I aint trying to hear that shit... he has all types of opportunities to come up but he would rather spend his money on strippers while trying to sound black"

and now I'm starting to see 20 year old white girls who look like they have solid middle class parents on these corners begging for money.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

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Jon
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Thu Sep-15-16 06:53 AM

126. "if you think being a white male puts all the cards in ur favor "
In response to Reply # 39

i question your ability to process the complexities of the real world

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Kwesi
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Thu Sep-15-16 06:55 AM

127. "we not typing about the world, we typing about america."
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Atillah Moor
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Thu Sep-15-16 09:59 AM

150. "yeah clearly white society is at a huge disadvantage "
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Jon
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Thu Sep-15-16 12:41 PM

182. "Who ever suggested that?"
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Atillah Moor
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Thu Sep-15-16 02:41 PM

190. "RE: if you think being a white male puts all the cards in ur favor "
In response to Reply # 182
Thu Sep-15-16 02:42 PM by Atillah Moor

maybe not all the cards but more than enough

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Jon
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Thu Sep-15-16 07:29 PM

241. "more than enough dfor what and depends on all other factors"
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Atillah Moor
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Fri Sep-16-16 09:28 AM

255. "more than enough for success and the factors favor whites too"
In response to Reply # 241

Regardless of where one falls on the socio economic ladder

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mikediggz
Member since Dec 02nd 2003
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Thu Sep-15-16 03:43 PM

198. "youre at the top of the food chain my friend. please accept and embrace"
In response to Reply # 126

your position.

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Jon
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Thu Sep-15-16 07:29 PM

240. "racially white people are. yes. racially speaking only."
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mikediggz
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Fri Sep-16-16 08:46 AM

254. "white men run america...translation: your club runs america."
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Atillah Moor
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Fri Sep-16-16 09:30 AM

256. "Nope every aspect of American society is dominated by whites"
In response to Reply # 240

And I'm not saying that's wrong, but that is the case.

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Jon
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Fri Sep-16-16 10:17 AM

259. "Every white doesn't run America"
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mikediggz
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Fri Sep-16-16 10:38 AM

264. "you start out with more than a leg up. if you dont see it your privilege..."
In response to Reply # 259
Fri Sep-16-16 10:39 AM by mikediggz

is blinding you. which could in fact be the case, because in order to understand privilege you have to be willing to acknowledge some things that you are arguing against, right now. there are things that we go thru that you just cant comprehend. because it isnt your experience. we live this shit. ill leave you with this thought. i would wager that damn near every black member of this site has heard this statement in some form or fashion as a child, coming from an adult family member or close friend who loved them. to get ahead, you have to be twice as good as them. have you ever heard that? of course not because you wont. youre part of the "them". and thats not an attack on you. thats just the gameboard that we all are a part of.

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Jon
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Fri Sep-16-16 09:55 PM

312. "You're arguing a strawman now. I never denied white privilege."
In response to Reply # 264
Fri Sep-16-16 10:14 PM by Jon

Or, sometimes more accurately, black underprivilege. You don't need to convince me that being white spares a person a collection of hurdles that being black comes with in this society.

My point was never that race isn't a major factor, or that being white isn't an advantage. my point is race isn't the ONLY significant collection of hurdles and it isn't the only thing that decides how the cookie crumbles.

Being able bodied is an advantage, not being blind is an advantage, growing up with the basics taken care of, being able to shower and put on clean clothes, having parents, good teachers, someone giving you a chance, being attractive, being a citizen, trauma, being mutilated, seeing your mom kill your brother, having your dad beat you constantly to where you end up hospitalized, never being able to focus on school etc, being straight perhaps, terminal illness, no bowel control, brain damage, hunger, prison, false accusations, and there are a thousand other things in the human condition I could list, that can easily tip the scales in favor of a given black person over a given white person when viewed in totality. Enough to make plenty of people in this very thread wrestle with suicide or deep misery.

In my line of work, I'm surrounded by all kinds of people whom I'm gonna bet you'd never trade places with in a million years in exchange for whiteness.

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Atillah Moor
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Fri Sep-16-16 12:40 PM

287. "and that's not what I said "
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Jon
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Fri Sep-16-16 10:18 PM

314. "Then what are you saying? Can a black man be suicidal even if"
In response to Reply # 287

pretty much every aspect of society is dominated by men?

Of course, because citing the traits of the few who dominate is not the same as giving that dominance to all with that trait.

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PROMO
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Wed Sep-14-16 10:32 AM

40. "suicide is such a foreign concept to me."
In response to Reply # 0

so, i can't speak to the impact is has on white folks.

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BigReg
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Wed Sep-14-16 10:59 AM

46. "Our suicide rates ain't exactly something to be cheering at tho"
In response to Reply # 0

As far as the specifics of the post, don't think it's exactly being a loser but id say the rise of Big Pharm as the #1 abusable drug dealer along with a never ending recession, along with lower middle class whites becoming as marginalized as lower middle class minorities = where we are today

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thegodcam
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Wed Sep-14-16 11:03 AM

49. "r white ppl suicidal rates higher than other demographics?"
In response to Reply # 0

cuz if they r, this aint a stupid post at all... I honestly don't get why they would have a higher rate as a collective compared to what folks of color have to deal with on a daily basis regardless of socioeconomic status

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denny
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Wed Sep-14-16 11:29 AM

57. "RE: r white ppl suicidal rates higher than other demographics?"
In response to Reply # 49

Does it also confuse you that black American suicide rates are higher than people living in Haiti, Congo, Lebanon?

Point being...suicide rates don't have a strong correlation to standard of living.

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Atillah Moor
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Wed Sep-14-16 11:52 AM

68. "They have zombies in Haiti -- suicide doesn't work"
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thegodcam
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Wed Sep-14-16 03:15 PM

100. "u postin real caucasian right now"
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kevlar skully
Member since Mar 13th 2007
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Wed Sep-14-16 11:07 AM

50. "shrinking privileges. They hearts clinch a lil from hearing happy blacks"
In response to Reply # 0

I'm not even joking, every new superhero of color that Marvel makes literally kills white men cause they grew up in a world where all these good things were specifically for white men, now they have to share a few privileges: mass suicides

I'm not joking either..

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Atillah Moor
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Wed Sep-14-16 12:08 PM

77. "which makes no sense "
In response to Reply # 50

because black people have been one of if not the largest consumer group when it comes to that form of media

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makaveli
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Wed Sep-14-16 12:10 PM

78. "so you are saying Marvel characters kill white men"
In response to Reply # 50

and you are not joking?

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

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kevlar skully
Member since Mar 13th 2007
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Wed Sep-14-16 12:43 PM

82. "Relatively symbolic shit like that is very important to them "
In response to Reply # 78

I.e. The pledge of allegiance

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legsdiamond
Member since May 05th 2011
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Wed Sep-14-16 02:22 PM

93. "they lost their shit when the Hunger Games character was black"
In response to Reply # 82

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

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kevlar skully
Member since Mar 13th 2007
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Wed Sep-14-16 03:05 PM

98. "yeah they lose it regularly over non-white fictional characters "
In response to Reply # 93

Anyone thinking Marvel having a black Spider-Man & black Captain America doesn't make white guys feel persecuted needs just read the internet a lil bit, you don't have to search far

Fucking attacking Leslie Jones over some Ghostbusters.... Cmon

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handle
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Wed Sep-14-16 11:31 AM

58. "We're fine - thanks for asking"
In response to Reply # 0
Wed Sep-14-16 11:32 AM by handle

Shit - we're losing our unearned privileges - but we'll be fine for decades.

And after that - we'll be the best at playing the victim for at least a century.

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Wed Sep-14-16 11:39 AM

59. "LMAO you're channeling my ex-husband"
In response to Reply # 0

When I was still married, I was discussing with him the fact that there's no epithet for white men that carries the same weight as any race-related epithet, and he disagreed. Oh right? I sneered, What would that be? Honky? Whitey? Come on, stop acting brand new.

His response? "Unemployed"

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All acquisition ends in dispersion
All life ends in death
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|\_/|
='_'=

Every hundred years, all new people

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BigReg
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Wed Sep-14-16 02:39 PM

96. "LOL!"
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Wed Sep-14-16 09:24 PM

110. "o_O"
In response to Reply # 59

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Big PEMFin H & z's
"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." � Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

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Atillah Moor
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Thu Sep-15-16 06:10 PM

216. "That is actually pretty revealing"
In response to Reply # 59
Thu Sep-15-16 06:11 PM by Atillah Moor

I've always said poverty, black people, gays, and women are the most despised things in America

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janey
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Mon Sep-19-16 12:01 PM

346. "I saw a production of Othello this weekend"
In response to Reply # 216

done in modern dress.

Man, all I could think was "Even in Shakespeare's day, white men got SO ANGRY when they decided that Black men were getting over on them." I felt like I could have been watching a play about working class guys getting pissed off about who was made foreman.

~ ~ ~
All meetings end in separation
All acquisition ends in dispersion
All life ends in death
- The Buddha

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='_'=

Every hundred years, all new people

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deejboram
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Wed Sep-14-16 11:51 AM

66. "*slits throat motion*"
In response to Reply # 0

****
pink toes: http://i.imgur.com/WN7DPL1

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biscuit
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Wed Sep-14-16 03:23 PM

101. "What's a NILLA gonna do?"
In response to Reply # 0

...

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

*Effasig*

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Atillah Moor
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Wed Sep-14-16 03:48 PM

102. "privilege was the case that they gave me "
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Kwesi
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Wed Sep-14-16 03:50 PM

103. "this was a good one."
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legsdiamond
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Thu Sep-15-16 07:11 AM

128. "HA"
In response to Reply # 102

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

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go mack
Member since May 02nd 2008
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Wed Sep-14-16 06:38 PM

104. "Depression is real"
In response to Reply # 0

I had a friend take her life a year and a half ago

Not always the case, but with her had PTSD with childhood sexual abuse, raped as a teen, etc. Had bouts of depression seemed better tho and then all of a sudden snapped.

I couldn't ever see it but know lots of people who just can't be happy. Especially high school, can be rough on kids who don't feel socially accepted. Movies like Heathers and Pump up the Volume spoke to me as a teenager, shout out to Christian Slater!

Its suicide awareness month tho so everyone be happy and make your loved ones feel loved.

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Crash85
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Wed Sep-14-16 07:10 PM

107. "We all got our vices..."
In response to Reply # 0

But I'm headed in the right direction...

You good?

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Kwesi
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Wed Sep-14-16 09:33 PM

111. "we do all have our own vices. "
In response to Reply # 107

and I'm good, thank you for asking.

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makaveli
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Wed Sep-14-16 07:36 PM

108. "Most white people live in magical kingdoms"
In response to Reply # 0

The only way they can become losers is if they hear about a black superhero and then they just lose it and start doing heroin.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

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kevlar skully
Member since Mar 13th 2007
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Thu Sep-15-16 11:55 AM

171. "Or female ghostbusters, black guy/white girl in Star Wars or black Presi..."
In response to Reply # 108
Thu Sep-15-16 11:56 AM by kevlar skully

Y'all gonna stop acting like these white people not tripping about perceived privileges shrinking meanwhile the talking about making America great again

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Kira
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Wed Sep-14-16 09:46 PM

113. "Why wouldn't they be good?"
In response to Reply # 0

There's no such thing as being a loser and being white with my outside looking in perspective. You might be a loser to your peers but to someone else you are just going through a tough stretch.

I imagine life would suck but then they wake up with all those advantages and use their connections to get on. It has to feel great to have literally every facet of society cater to you and remind you of your greatness.

Now that i think about it depression could sink in due to not having the situation the person wanted so maybe that contributes to the suicide rate. It comes down to the a lifetime of coddling from the local environment and society only to realize the truth of the world.

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GriftyMcgrift
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Wed Sep-14-16 09:49 PM

114. "I'm good thanks for asking!"
In response to Reply # 0

Wish everyone the same!

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Jon
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Thu Sep-15-16 06:52 AM

125. "how is it possible to be able-bodied and a loser?"
In response to Reply # 0

how is it possible to be male and a loser?

how is it possible to be tall and a loser?

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Kwesi
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Thu Sep-15-16 07:25 AM

129. "plenty of tall black people are victims of white supremacy. "
In response to Reply # 125

and in turn, 'losers'.

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Cold Truth
Member since Jan 28th 2004
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Thu Sep-15-16 10:44 AM

160. "It's not Whitey's fault you're a loser, Kwesi. "
In response to Reply # 129
Thu Sep-15-16 10:45 AM by Cold Truth

Take some *personal responsibility* for your actions. Whitey isn’t holding your fingers down and making you push people’s buttons.

Pull yourself up *by your bootstraps* and make something of that void in your soul where most people harness an actual personality.

You’re a loser because you’ve made the choice to be a repugnant troll for much of your adult life, not because Whitey and his Supremacy made you that way.

Of course, it’s understandable that you keep beating this drum since your return. You think you’re Braveheart, galvanizing your oppressed brethren to fight off the encroaching hordes of White Devils. You do this not from any altruistic motivation, but for survival: it’s the only weapon you have. The only thing that makes you tolerable to a particular segment of OKP’s base. The only way you can rally people to your side.

It’s funny that you make this post, because one white suicide of note happened to an OKP a few years back. Radin was a white male who committed suicide, yet here you are grossly oversimplifying and belittling the causes for the demise of people like him. Here you are, trivializing something that you don’t even attempt to understand on any discernible level.

I have a close, black female friend who has been discussing the subject of suicide uncomfortably often lately. She once considered it often but hasn’t for a long while, so it’s a little- no, a lot- alarming. Of course, she’s half white and thus you most likely don’t give half a fuck about someone like her, but then neither do plenty of white males, or white women, because they see her skin first and foremost. I know why it’s been on her mind and the underlying issues *she* experiences that lead her into those thoughts in the past and why they might creep up again, but no matter how well it can be articulated into words one truth remains: It’s just not that fucking simple.

The root causes of suicide, the things that ultimately lead one to even consider that level of finality as a solution, are things that transcend any cheap qualifiers you can find to confine the issue.

But you make this post with an obvious angle and zero sincerity and it’s telling. It’s understandable, particularly because it tends to work for you.

It just doesn’t work for very long.

And you eventually, inevitably, unquestionably WILL find your way back to that long timeout.

It’s coming. I know it. You know it.
It’s not Whitey’s fault. It’s yours.

But hey, have fun with this while it lasts!

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Kwesi
Member since Jan 11th 2004
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Thu Sep-15-16 11:13 AM

167. "*rubs eyes* am i imagining this reply??"
In response to Reply # 160

CYREN, BIGREG &OR TRIPTYCH!! PLEASE BAN THIS CLOWN!

he trying to start with me.

do i need to send an official inbox or some shit?

please advise.

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Atillah Moor
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Thu Sep-15-16 12:26 PM

181. "*The Color Purple piano scene*"
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Triptych
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Thu Sep-15-16 02:14 PM

185. "Meh."
In response to Reply # 167

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Kwesi
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Thu Sep-15-16 02:16 PM

186. "apathy?"
In response to Reply # 185

interesting.

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Triptych
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Thu Sep-15-16 02:25 PM

187. "If you can't take down his shitty argument yourself."
In response to Reply # 186

I don't really feel the need to get involved.

All I see is a lot of feelings in here. I'm not a mod tho.

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Kwesi
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Thu Sep-15-16 02:29 PM

188. "i can take the shitty argument 'down'. i just know i'll be met with a ba..."
In response to Reply # 187

or a 'chill out' note.

im trying to continue my privilege to post.

... its amazing he gets to keep his.

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Cold Truth
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Thu Sep-15-16 04:15 PM

204. "LMAO!!!!!! *points and laughs* "
In response to Reply # 188

It’s weird, if you were able to “take down” my argument, you should be able to do so not only with ease, but without doing it in such a way that you would get any sort of notes or warnings or, as you and I both know is absolutely probable, getting your ass kicked the fuck out for the umpteenth time.

You don’t get to seek negative attention from me and then scream to the mods by name- another hilarious flourish in your overall tact, by the way- to take action against me for giving you the attention you actively sought. As you’ve said yourself, you enjoy pushing buttons.

Your dilemma is that you want to be free to push my buttons without me pushing back or to push my buttons hard enough that I push back in a way that crosses enough lines to get hit with a ban of my own…. But the only way you can make that bait enticing enough that I step far enough over the line to take it is for you to actually step over that line yourself and once you do that, well, as we’ve seen over and over and over and over again… you wind up getting yourself banned in the process.

You keep wondering aloud how it is that you keep getting the Uncle Phil Special and I don’t, and that’s a fantastic question. Considering how unsympathetic and I am and how many people loudly and consistently voice their dislike for me, it speaks volumes that you’re the one who always winds up on a timeout whereas it’s never happened to me. The reason you never get an answer to your question is because you’re completely unwilling to accept the most obvious answer of all:

YOU’RE THE PROBLEM.

Hell, you think our exchanges are the only reasons you get banned, as though you haven’t hada long line of antagonistic exchanges with other people

You get yourself banned. Not me. And your continued whining about why I don’t perfectly underscores that ban, because you would rather point fingers and place blame instead of making the obvious choice to police yourself enough to stay out of the red zone.

Of course, that wouldn't allow you to keep playing a martyr for your likeminded brethren.

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Kwesi
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Thu Sep-15-16 04:28 PM

206. "*unsubscribe"
In response to Reply # 204

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Cold Truth
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Thu Sep-15-16 04:47 PM

208. "See, unsubscribing would have meant no response. "
In response to Reply # 206
Thu Sep-15-16 04:51 PM by Cold Truth

Just like "bowing out" in that IG post would have meant... ACTUALLY BOWING OUT.

You're not unsubscribing to shit. You'll be back talking to me and about me in short order trying to "push buttons" because you NEED that shit.

While you laments the reasons white males kill themselves to escape this world, YOU compensate for your own misery by "pushing buttons". If you don't have someone to fuck with you don't have anything to look forward to.

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Kwesi
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Thu Sep-15-16 05:57 PM

215. "'unsubscribe' has always been an active request to the sender."
In response to Reply # 208

it means ' stop sending me shit'

you don't unsubscribe from newsletters/emails by ignoring them.

you have to send the sender an unsubscribe requests.

get it?

it's really simple, but sadly you're hell bent on proving some point about my misery, or drinking, or trump, or whatever other corny, suffocating, boring shit you type out.

this post/topic was doing fine without you.

it's a very active topic with plenty of participants.

that, alone, defeats your position about 'me needing you'.

clearly, I don't.

I find a lot of enjoyment outside of our fucked up relatiknshop

I think you got a bit jealous of all the attention I get from the likeminded (not followers, not fans - likeminded) people and needed to come and do some corny, suffocating, unfunny, boring shit.

I get it.

But really.

how many ways do I have to type it?

unsubscribe.
bitch, leave me alone.
hoe, go away.
please stop.
we're over.
I can't do this anymore.
mutha fucka, get some business.

lastly, no one cares what you type in response to this, so why keep going.

didn't cyren tell your bum-ass to chill?

well, here's your chance.

chill.

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Cold Truth
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Thu Sep-15-16 06:14 PM

217. "I'm not a fucking magazine sub you idiot, your opt out is instant. "
In response to Reply # 215

You opt out by choosing not to participate.

>that, alone, defeats your position about 'me needing you'.
>
>clearly, I don't.

False. A, I didn't say you needed ME. I said you needed to "push buttons". I just happen to be a favored target of your weird fetish.

>how many ways do I have to type it?
>unsubscribe.
>bitch, leave me alone.
>hoe, go away.
>please stop.
>we're over.
>I can't do this anymore.
>mutha fucka, get some business.

Idiot, that's the point: if you *really* want out, you wouldn't type anything to or about me. You came back and wanted my attention and now your sorry ass has it. You don't get to dictate where and when I give it to you.

If you don't want my attention, shut the fuck up about me. Keep your stupid trap shut and don't fucking talk TO me.

I'll leave you alone on *my* whims, bitch. Not yours.

>didn't cyren tell your bum-ass to chill?

NOPE. Sure didn't.

>well, here's your chance.

No bitch, you can opt out. Any time you choose.

If you want out, don't talk about it.

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Kwesi
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Thu Sep-15-16 06:17 PM

218. "ok. I'm still here. not typing about it. now what? cuss me out so more. "
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Cold Truth
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Thu Sep-15-16 06:30 PM

219. "Just can't resist can you? What happened to being done?"
In response to Reply # 218

Out?
Over?
Etc?

So weird considering you used pretty definitive language practically screaming you weren't going to keep this up.

Yet... here you are.

Odd.

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Kwesi
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Thu Sep-15-16 06:38 PM

220. "dance, puppet. "
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Cold Truth
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Thu Sep-15-16 07:00 PM

222. "Tick tock, Kwesi. How much longer do you think you have here?"
In response to Reply # 220

And how will it feel to look back and know that a large portion of the brief time you had back on this site was spent bullshitting with me?

I'm amused that you think you're on some Ghepetto shit here but if you really were.. you'd be ignoring my presence completely instead of fucking up your own post with these empty ass spam responses to lil ol me.

Again, don't worry. When I tire of you I'll go back to ignoring your bait.

The cool thing is I don't think of you in the slightest away from GD. Conversely, you're likely outlining your next youtube video dedicated to me.

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Kwesi
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Thu Sep-15-16 07:06 PM

224. "now, do the hustle!"
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Cold Truth
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Thu Sep-15-16 07:09 PM

226. "Tick tock, Kwesi. How much longer do you think you have here?"
In response to Reply # 224

Honest question.

Let's be friends.

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Kwesi
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Thu Sep-15-16 07:10 PM

227. "shake what ya momma gave yaaaaaa!"
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Cold Truth
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Thu Sep-15-16 07:13 PM

230. "Not even clever. Just say what's on your mind Kwesi. "
In response to Reply # 227

Say what you really want to say, Kwesi.

Come on.

You know you want to.

Say it.

Because this is pathetic. You're a shell of yourself.

This new, subdued Kwesi trying not to get banned is just plain sad.
I will say it's GREAT to see how you've been neutered though.

All on your p's and q's like a good boy. No bass in that voice anymore, not with your balls cut off and all.

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Kwesi
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Thu Sep-15-16 07:14 PM

231. "one maca two maca three macarena!"
In response to Reply # 230

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Cold Truth
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Thu Sep-15-16 07:16 PM

233. "Good boy, asagoodboy! whosagoodboy! "
In response to Reply # 231

Lick my toes, dog.

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Kwesi
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Thu Sep-15-16 07:19 PM

235. "DROP DOWN AND GET YOUR EAGLE ON!!!"
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Cold Truth
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Thu Sep-15-16 07:25 PM

238. "Come on bruh. You know you like being the resident martyr"
In response to Reply # 235

For your cause of, well, uh.... "pressing buttons".

Don't you want to go back to that? To being respected and revered for, well, fuck, for what exactly? For getting kicked the fuck out every two months?

Don't worry, you're putting up a valiant effort, but it's coming.

Soon.

You know it.
I know it.

With that, I'm out for the night. Hate to leave you hanging but I'm done with you until further notice.

Unlike you, I'll stick to it. I may go back to rationing you to your once-weekly dose of attention, or I may simply ignore you until your return from your impending ban. I haven't decided.

Bye bitch.

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Kwesi
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Thu Sep-15-16 07:26 PM

239. "LEAN WIT IT, LEAN WIT, ROCK WIT IT, ROCK WIT IT!"
In response to Reply # 238

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SeV
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Fri Sep-16-16 10:52 AM

268. "RE: LEAN WIT IT, LEAN WIT, ROCK WIT IT, ROCK WIT IT!"
In response to Reply # 239

This exchange was fantastic

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atruhead
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Fri Sep-16-16 01:06 AM

245. "you made this post to bait him into a response"
In response to Reply # 167

you got a response and now you're asking for him to be banned?

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Kwesi
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Fri Sep-16-16 05:27 AM

247. "i made this post for him?? don't think so highly of yourselves. please. "
In response to Reply # 245

he goes on and on about how i always follow him around.

about how he never initiates contact, bla bla bla.

I don't know what that wall of words says, but in the subject - he's calling me a loser.

this thread ain't even about me.

but he's taking cheap, corny, unfunny & suffocating shots at me.

cyren told him (us) to chill on the back and forth but he ran in here to start some more of it.

....

by the way mr miserable, what are you doing here?

I thought you couldn't stand the sight of me either.

y'all funny.

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atruhead
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Fri Sep-16-16 10:26 AM

260. "yes, you made the post for him"
In response to Reply # 247

you've been regularly baiting him about being mixed/white

you made this post to elicit a response. it wasnt even about white people at large, you narrowed it down to those posting here

you got what you were looking for now you're playing dumb

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Kwesi
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Fri Sep-16-16 11:32 AM

276. "he's not the only white guy that posts here. but he is the only white gu..."
In response to Reply # 260

that claims to actively and strongly avoid me.

why would I expect him to show up?

he claims that only i instigate any and all communication between us two.

all this post does is clearly falsify his claim.

he's a boring, corny, suffocating, little white fish.

and you're feeding him.

for what?

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Cold Truth
Member since Jan 28th 2004
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Fri Sep-16-16 11:58 AM

277. "Oh, there are always exceptions. I've said that. "
In response to Reply # 276

>that claims to actively and strongly avoid me.

I do, and have, at times for very long stretches.

>why would I expect him to show up?

Psst...that's why they're called "bait" posts.

>he claims that only i instigate any and all communication
>between us two.

Yep. Absolutely. It's not even up for debate. I've said more than once that there are exceptions to this, and I decided to make an exception since, AS ALWAYS, you made a beeline for me shortly after your release back into gen pop.

but please go on and pretend that an exception invalidates a rule.

>all this post does is clearly falsify his claim.

No, stupid, because AGAIN: the exception does not undo the rule. You've done a fantastic job in cooking up enticing bait though, I'll give you that.

>he's a boring, corny, suffocating, little white fish.

And you're a pretentious, annoying, antagonistic, insufferably cartoonish and stereotypical black male who feels that he should be allowed free reign to say as he pleases without pushback and uses race as his shield whenever he gets that pushback for his words.

All you have here is your blackness. That's it. You desperately cling to that shit to keep people on your side.

If all the non-blacks left this site and you were left to interact with just the other black members, you'd be dispatched in short order because you'd no longer have that escape goat (c) T Mac to distract everyone from your true nature.

That common bond of shared experience as an American black male would cease to protect you.

That’s why you emphasize race so often on your return. It’s your only fallback.

You’re a rough equivalent of a moderately attractive woman in an appearance-obsessed social circle who surrounds herself with hideous friends so that she can be the “hot” one in the group. Without them, well, she’s a South Dakota 5 in a room full of NYC 10’s and nobody at the party is fucking with her until 4 am.

You already know this, but the last thing you want around here is for the non-black members to bounce because your ugliest qualities will be glaringly apparent.

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Kwesi
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Fri Sep-16-16 12:11 PM

278. "you really don't get it and I'm glad you're typing all this wack shit ou..."
In response to Reply # 277

you are showing a complete lack of understanding for black life.

male black life, specifically.

stereotypical black male? Hahahahha.

i need you people around?? Hahahahahaha.

you minimize our experiences into negligent 'talking points'

you don't understand or respect our comradery

you're insulting as fuck to our women.

you make claims about my motivations and behavior that show your personal insecurities.

just, go.

I, WE, will be just fine without you.

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Cold Truth
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Fri Sep-16-16 12:28 PM

282. "lmao... trust, you'd be in exile without "yt" to distract people. "
In response to Reply # 278

>stereotypical black male? Hahahahha.

Yep a guy who spouts off and thinks your skin is the only reason people who aren't black has a problem with you.

>i need you people around?? Hahahahahaha.

Note how you avoid talking about the reason for that.

>you minimize our experiences into negligent 'talking points'

lol nah... I'm talking to YOU about YOU, and that goes to my earlier point: you think anything said to YOU somehow applies to every other black male.

>you don't understand or respect our comradery

Again, talking to YOU and about YOU.

>you're insulting as fuck to our women.

Nah. Never that, but again: you think black skin makes people impervious to criticism. You see your skin and decide that it is the sum total of anything negative anyone says about you or anyone else with your skin, like I wouldn't have the exact same opinion of a white physical equivalent of 'dat icey'.

Because you refuse to employ any semblance of critical, nuanced thought on the matter you resort to THIS bullshit.

Plus, I mean... I fucking married one of "your" women and I absolutely adore her.

I was practically raised by one of "your" women, rest her soul, and I revere her.

So nah. That's not going to fly with me. Your skin isn't a shield that prevents people from expressing thoughts about YOU, the *person*.

Because, as you said, this site is heavily skewed black, which means many of the people discussed are black. Yet, somehow, you see anything critical toward someone black and decide that said persons blackness is the reason for the critique.

It's funny, you and others can speak freely about "yt" in any context but you expect special treatment and extra sensitivity in return signals.

But nah... when someone says something to YOU about YOU, that shit is. about. YOU, motherfucker, and the only reason race is a factor in this discussion is because you brought it up using "evidence" that needs to be badly skewed in order to appear to be valid.

>you make claims about my motivations and behavior that show
>your personal insecurities.
>
>just, go.
>
>I, WE, will be just fine without you.

LMAO. Bruh... far as OKP goes, aside from a couple of dusty ass lackeys, you'd have no "we" without non-blacks to point to in oder to distract from your horrendous personality.

The second OKP becomes all black you're on an island with a few other outliers and you wouldn't have the convenient excuses you have now.

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Kwesi
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Fri Sep-16-16 12:35 PM

284. "aahh. makes sense, youre here to gain more insight about your black wife..."
In response to Reply # 282

that's reasonable.

perfectly reasonable.

clearly many parts of the black experience are foreign to you.

though still, this post wasn't about you.

sorry.

...

since I understand why you're here now - I have a suggestion:

more reading, less typing.

we don't need your boring, corny, suffocating, unfunny, white-washed perspective.

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Cold Truth
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Fri Sep-16-16 12:50 PM

290. "Psst...my wife is intelligent, articulate, and perfectly comunicative"
In response to Reply # 284

We have a good relationship, you know, the kind where people communicate their thoughts and feelings.

If I want to learn about her, I'll just ask.

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Kwesi
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Fri Sep-16-16 12:51 PM

292. "oh. you thought i really gave a fuck about you or her?"
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Cold Truth
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Fri Sep-16-16 12:52 PM

293. "What on earth gave you that impression?"
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Kwesi
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Fri Sep-16-16 12:53 PM

295. "oh, my bad. hold on for a minute."
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Cold Truth
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Fri Sep-16-16 12:57 PM

299. "That's it.. embrace the dark side"
In response to Reply # 295

FYI, that's a Star Wars reference and has nothing to do with you being black.

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Kwesi
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Fri Sep-16-16 12:17 PM

279. "cold truth, do you have any black friends? or is this your only periscop..."
In response to Reply # 277

into our world?

you feel cool reading our shit?

you take all the jokes back to your white and mexican friends?

you the cool one?

Hahahahahaha

YOUR'RE the cool one???

Aww man, this day is great.

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Cold Truth
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Fri Sep-16-16 12:47 PM

289. "I dunno, ask my wife, or her brothers, uncles, mom, cousins"
In response to Reply # 279
Fri Sep-16-16 12:47 PM by Cold Truth

I'd say ask Deidra, the black woman who was one of my great refuges in life from 13-26 and infinitely more of a mother to me than my own, but she passed when I was 26. In fact I posted about her passing at the time....but you can always ask her kids, who are very much like siblings.

Or any number of close friends, male and female.

Or other black male OKP's with whom I have good relationships.

Actually, don't. I don't need, expect, or even desire anyone to "vouch" for me. That's an awful thing to ask someone to do, especially to prove some shit to you of all people, Still, I fit in perfectly well in black company. Always have. Always will.

That said, I’m not perfect. I’m not some outsider expert on all things black. I've said clumsy and stupid things over the years that I regretted.

Shit I regret the joint I said to BK about the cops, but not because it supposedly hurt BK. I could give a fuck about BK and could care less about anything that happens to him.

I regret saying it because it's a serious issue that I genuinely care about and yet I let some idiot on the internet get under my skin enough to use it to stop him dead in his tracks.

I regret it because I have friends and family who could see that and be hurt by it.

The only reason I left it instead of editing was because I should at least be accountable for such an awful joke and I'd rather take that heat than edit and pretend I never said it.

I have two black children, which demands that I DO take interest and gain greater understanding of black issues. The challenge there is to separate the rhetoric spewed by bottom feeders such as yourself from the real meat of these issues.

But you? You're nobody. I'm just a guy who can't let an argument go, who for some reason is driven to address every criticism or slight head on and you're a guy who likes to push buttons and here we are.

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Kwesi
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Fri Sep-16-16 12:52 PM

294. "im sorry, i really don't care about any of that you just typed."
In response to Reply # 289

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Cold Truth
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Fri Sep-16-16 12:54 PM

296. "There we go, the *real* Kwesi is coming out. "
In response to Reply # 294

Embrace that shit.

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Kwesi
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Fri Sep-16-16 12:57 PM

297. "true. wait right here. i'll be right back."
In response to Reply # 296

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Cold Truth
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Fri Sep-16-16 12:59 PM

300. "Almost there fam. I see a ban on the horizon! "
In response to Reply # 297

Isn’t it radiant?

Gotdamn that shit is beautiful.

You’re well on your way.

You know it. I know it.

Don’t fight the urge fam, just let your natural instincts take over.

You can do this. I believe in you.

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atruhead
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Fri Sep-16-16 01:14 PM

305. "because that's how trolling works"
In response to Reply # 276

>why would I expect him to show up?

bait, insult people for biting, act like you didnt expect the bullshit

it was actually a miracle Cold Truth held out for so long

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Kwesi
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Fri Sep-16-16 01:23 PM

306. "i never claimed to be a troll. it's been you alls schtick to paint me as..."
In response to Reply # 305

one.

it's always been so apparent.

you all hate dissenting opinions, so you scream TROLL!

... as loud as you can.

good topic, relevant content - but because i made it - it gets the TROLL! badge.

this is just how you all like to play.

hopefully you're having fun.

i know i am.

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atruhead
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Fri Sep-16-16 01:34 PM

308. "swag."
In response to Reply # 306

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deejboram
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Sat Sep-17-16 06:30 AM

317. "He's right. Yall do me the same way."
In response to Reply # 308

I like guns.
LOVE guns.
See no problem with them.
That's a dissenting OKP view.
So, whenever I express support for the 2nd amendment
Yall scream on me that I'm a troll

Whenever I ask why there are no non-Black "ghettos" in the USA
Yall scream TROLL

Me mentioning my (white) wife
YOU RACE BAITING TROLL!!!

I say Black Thought don't have any WIDELY KNOWN hits
TROLL

Shit, he don't have no hits PERIOD
but he got a position as a backup dancer on a late night talk show that fawns to D. Trump

TROLL!

****
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atruhead
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Sat Sep-17-16 08:09 AM

318. "you're not a troll for your dissenting views"
In response to Reply # 317

you're a troll because in 2016 you're still trying to get under people's skin with insults and personal attacks

it's you and a good 3 others, all of whom are probably in this post somewhere

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deejboram
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Sat Sep-17-16 08:22 AM

319. "i have no desire to "get under anyone's skin""
In response to Reply # 318

>you're a troll because in 2016 you're still trying to get
>under people's skin with insults and personal attacks

Can you point to me PROOF of doing such?

You can't produce them because I don't do it.
Murph says I attack him personally.
All I ever say is "nigga you don't know what the fuck you'Re talking about!" (when it comes to politcs)
that's it
how is that a "personal attack"
shit man, we're all up for our personal views.
he can tell me the same shit and we'd both be right
neither one of s know what the fuck we're talking about when it comes to politics

you dirty macking and dry snitching on niggas
by having ANOTHER MAN'S NAME in your mouth bad mouthing him to a woman he's pursuing.
and you thought that shit was cute and trotted the same comments out to other ppl.

****
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atruhead
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Sun Sep-18-16 12:11 PM

330. "yes I can produce proof you're a troll"
In response to Reply # 319

however I dont care about this discussion. I was just acknowledging that you're not wrongly seen as a troll, you routinely do things to earn the title. others see it as well

>you dirty macking and dry snitching on niggas
>by having ANOTHER MAN'S NAME in your mouth bad mouthing him to
>a woman he's pursuing.
>and you thought that shit was cute and trotted the same
>comments out to other ppl.

you're trying to deflect and doing a bad job at it
Im not sure you know the definitions of dirty macking or dry snithcing
"he looks like someone famous" isnt bad mouthing anyone
we were all at Roscoe's last night and the woman in question brought it up, apparently it's still funny to her and everyone else
crazy how things work in real life never work with GD trolls trying to spin a story

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Cold Truth
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Fri Sep-16-16 08:02 AM

250. "His whole act is basically Doug Williams concience"
In response to Reply # 245
Fri Sep-16-16 08:03 AM by Cold Truth

"Maybe I should talk about how black people have to struggle!! Yeah! That'll get 'em on my side!!!"

Funny how out of everything I said he didn't address the hulking elephant in the room: adding a racial angle to everything he posts about makes him sympathetic to black posters.

It's also part of why he's targeted me over the years and he said as much in his little thanksgiving videonsomw years back: he can rally people to his cause by leveraging the general dislike people have for me.

I can't even hate on the strategy because it tends to work out for him most of the time.

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Kwesi
Member since Jan 11th 2004
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Fri Sep-16-16 08:16 AM

251. "lol @ adding a racial angle. typed out like a true out-of-touch cracker...."
In response to Reply # 250

again, why are you posting on a culturally black board, about black things, to black people - and then get upset when we add a clearly-lacking, black perspective?

why are you complaining about a ' black angle'.

that's the elephant in the room.

you don't belong here.

I don't know what kind of mission you're on, but it turns me off.

type some more about me trying to gain some fantasy 'black vote'.

it's a disgusting angle, and the fact that you don't realize that speaks volumes.

you and mr. grumpy pants need to just cut it out, like our man cyren told you to.

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Cold Truth
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Fri Sep-16-16 10:28 AM

261. "Timeout: WOW@this shit right here: "
In response to Reply # 251

>you don't belong here.

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Kwesi
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Fri Sep-16-16 10:44 AM

265. "yes. you. go find a place where race isn't an issue. "
In response to Reply # 261

find a place where you're not frustrated by a 'black' perspective or a race issue being brought up at every angle.

oh and when you find that place - don't forget to shake what your momma gave you!

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Cold Truth
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Fri Sep-16-16 10:45 AM

266. " O.O "
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Kwesi
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Fri Sep-16-16 10:50 AM

267. "here, i'll help you start."
In response to Reply # 266

https://goo.gl/c0zTdm

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Jon
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Thu Sep-15-16 03:52 PM

201. "you mean there's more than one factor at play in someone's life?"
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willothewisp
Member since Feb 07th 2003
1089 posts

Thu Sep-15-16 07:57 AM

131. "RE: white people, y'all good?"
In response to Reply # 0

Hey,

I'm white and a man, 37 years old, not from america though, so I don't really care about race.

I've been in therapy for 8 years now and seeing a psychiatrist regularly.

I've been unemployed for 8 years (I have master's in engineering, I am also very emotionally intelligent)

So I'm very familiar with mental health problems, from personal experience and from reading a lot about psychology (a lot about psychodynamic theory and practice, but I am also familiar with cognitive behavioral therapy, firs, second and third generation (dialectiacal behavior therapy), schema therapy, Pesso therapy...)

I used to be very rational (my defence), but in therapy my feeling broke through. I thought I was there, but nope, then the suicidal thoughts came, I began hyperventilating, i couldn't stay at home anymore, I had to go to a psychiatric hospital. Oh yeah, letst not fortget the major depression, before that, but then I didn't feel anything so it was managble : still, not very pleasant being exhausted after walking 3 meters....

Some psychotic signs... afraid to drive my car, afraid in basement spaces....

Anxiety stayed : I was so afraid i didn't dare to go into a store anymore : when I did I was trembling so much i almost couldn't put my groceries in my bag...

panic attacks, alcohol abuse... trashed my car looking for help.

Didn't feel anything for two years... couldn't enjoy a movier : I didn't feel anything. I came home and I lay down in my couch, day after day.

Couldn't sleep for weeks regularly.... it is what it is.

So what's this about? personality disorders.

Lost a lot of personality disorder traits in 8 years... working on the final ones. Still living, even if most of the people who knew me abandont me.

people kill themselves when all hope is lost. It has nothing to do with race or socio-economic things.

If white people kill themselves more, it is because their mother has loved them less. Empathy is key (c) Heinz Kohut

My mother is narcissistic, my father is absent (he is there, but never for me, never was, never will)

It is what it is : try breathing through a straw every day, from a woman with copd from smoking : you have no idea

if you have any questions, I'd be glad to answer them, if I feel like it... Take care!

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makaveli
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Thu Sep-15-16 08:33 AM

135. "glad you are doing better"
In response to Reply # 131
Thu Sep-15-16 08:36 AM by makaveli

and hope you continue to get better. being afraid to drive is considered psychotic? I'm assuming there are some online groups that go through this kinda stuff to help each other?

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

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willothewisp
Member since Feb 07th 2003
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Thu Sep-15-16 08:50 AM

137. "RE: glad you are doing better"
In response to Reply # 135

being afraid to drive your car is considerd "borderline-psychotic" (I don't know if this is the real term in English), not really psychotic. Still, never had that before : it is a break from reality. i don't really need support other than the insight of my psychologist; i have almost no anxiety anymore, but i suffer from loneliness every day : that hurts me (I(m taking Seroquel to numb the pain; If I can't do that, I'm drinking). Still, I'm getting there... Thank you!

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Atillah Moor
Member since Sep 05th 2013
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Thu Sep-15-16 09:58 AM

148. "Are you from Eastern or Northern Europe by chance? "
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willothewisp
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Thu Sep-15-16 10:21 AM

157. "I'm from Belgium"
In response to Reply # 148
Thu Sep-15-16 10:22 AM by willothewisp

People from eastern europe seem to have a better relationship with their parents, in general

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Atillah Moor
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Thu Sep-15-16 10:23 AM

158. "King Leopold's country right? "
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willothewisp
Member since Feb 07th 2003
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Thu Sep-15-16 10:51 AM

163. "yep"
In response to Reply # 158

don't condone what he has done to black people, at all.

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ambient1
Member since May 23rd 2007
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Thu Sep-15-16 08:40 AM

136. "inability to handle failed expectations and extreme insecurities"
In response to Reply # 0

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Coolin...

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legsdiamond
Member since May 05th 2011
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Thu Sep-15-16 08:55 AM

138. "I may have told this story but i will tell it again"
In response to Reply # 136

Met a white dude at a sports bar a while back and he tells me he used to make 200k online selling betting tips before they cracked down on online gambling sites.

anyway, we talk about all type of shit and i tell him how the wife and I met in college, moved to NC, blah blah blah...

but dude was was like WOW after every statement.

college degree? wow
your wife has a masters? wow
her family has a house on the coast? woooow

then he tells me his family paid for his college education and how he just got fired from a job waiting tables. After he asked what u do and i tell him i did the renderings for the putside structure attached to the sports bar he asked if we are hiring for sales.

right before he leaves he whispers "I'm not a fan of Obama... if more black guys were like you... black on black crime"

dude hit me with the long con just to get to that bullshit. I roasted that dude. "you aint got no job Tommy... white on white crimw is 86%, you are the drain on society you are complaining about"

finally i said sarcastically... "having a black man in the WH has to hurt, I cant even imagine the pain you must feel right now. How will you get through this... if it was me I would prolly give up"

some of them cant deal with this changing tide at all. We havent even come up like that but the optics got them all fucked up

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

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willothewisp
Member since Feb 07th 2003
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Thu Sep-15-16 09:16 AM

140. "RE: I may have told this story but i will tell it again"
In response to Reply # 138

you are very delusional.

“There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.”

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legsdiamond
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Thu Sep-15-16 09:19 AM

141. "and you are very white"
In response to Reply # 140

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

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KiloMcG
Member since Jan 01st 2008
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Thu Sep-15-16 09:27 AM

144. "haha"
In response to Reply # 141

i'm not really sure what was delusional about your previous reply/story.

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denny
Member since Apr 11th 2008
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Thu Sep-15-16 11:05 AM

165. "RE: haha"
In response to Reply # 144
Thu Sep-15-16 11:08 AM by denny

I'd suggest the delusional part is the running theme of the implication that one of the reasons white people are committing suicide is because a black man is the president.

Like has been argued by many here....white is a 'default' in north American society. So white people don't really think of themselves as 'white' the same way a minority may think of themselves as being 'black' or 'brown' etc.

So when a white person is committing suicide...they are not really thinking about their race or racial experience because they are the 'default'. It's arguable that this may not be true for minorities. Unlike 'default' white people....thoughts of suicide for minorities may be tied into racial identity and experience. I'd suggest that is the cause of very differing perspectives here. For white people...race is insignificant in suicide issues. For minorities....race is NOT insignificant in suicide isses.

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legsdiamond
Member since May 05th 2011
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Thu Sep-15-16 11:25 AM

169. "I didnt say anything about suicide in my post"
In response to Reply # 165

i know the OP touched on it but my post didnt have anything to do with it and was a response to the post above mine

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

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willothewisp
Member since Feb 07th 2003
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Thu Sep-15-16 11:46 AM

170. "RE: I didnt say anything about suicide in my post"
In response to Reply # 169

i've been in a psychiatric hospital in 2012 (psychoanalytic) : the majoraty of the men there has commited suicide, more than half of the men, most of them whitin a year of their therapy, som during. What do you want to know? This is real you know, it is not an abstract thing...

Kind regards,

Koenraad

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willothewisp
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Thu Sep-15-16 11:55 AM

172. "RE: I didnt say anything about suicide in my post"
In response to Reply # 170

it hurts visiting their coffin

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legsdiamond
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Thu Sep-15-16 12:04 PM

174. "I didnt say anything about suicide in MY post"
In response to Reply # 170

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

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denny
Member since Apr 11th 2008
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Thu Sep-15-16 12:13 PM

177. "I wasn't directly attributing it to you...."
In response to Reply # 174
Thu Sep-15-16 12:13 PM by denny

but there is a running theme...at times joking, at times serious...that white people are committing suicide because of their racial experience ie Marvel characters being cast with black actors, losing white privileges, Obama being president. That contention, if serious, is delusional and ridiculous.

My point.....is that being 'white' is not on the mind of someone who is white and suicidal. Being 'black' or 'brown' etc might very well play a part/role in the mind of someone who is a minority and suicidal. So we are all coming at this from different angles.

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makaveli
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Thu Sep-15-16 11:56 AM

173. "it's not because of Obama"
In response to Reply # 165

it's because of the superheroes, that's why white people are depressed.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

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willothewisp
Member since Feb 07th 2003
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Thu Sep-15-16 12:18 PM

179. "RE: it's not because of Obama"
In response to Reply # 173

you are delusional.

do you want quick solutions? I've been there, didn't work.

you're smarter than this, i believe so...

I'm getting tired. Who am I trying to convince? Logging out... Take care

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makaveli
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Thu Sep-15-16 12:46 PM

183. "i'm not sure you meant to respond to me?"
In response to Reply # 179

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

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willothewisp
Member since Feb 07th 2003
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Thu Sep-15-16 12:51 PM

184. "RE: i'm not sure you meant to respond to me?"
In response to Reply # 183

could've taken sarcasm the wrong way, no harm meant

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Atillah Moor
Member since Sep 05th 2013
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Thu Sep-15-16 02:38 PM

189. "So Denny how do white think of white?"
In response to Reply # 165

I know when a white person is asked if they are some ethnicity other than that descended from an amalgamated group of migrant Europeans the response is usually "I'M WHITE" and said with quite a bit of zest as if they are aware that there is some inherent benefit in identifying as such.

I know a white kid in college killed himself and a bunch of others because white girls were attracted to non white guys. So if white people will kill themselves over that then why wouldn't they kill themselves (and others) over a black man in the office?

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willothewisp
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Thu Sep-15-16 03:19 PM

191. "RE: So Denny how do white think of white?"
In response to Reply # 189

lol

are you for real? read what i posted before : people don't kill themselves over situational cicumstances : if they are emotionally healthy they can deal with that : the problem lies in their past, mostly with their parents.

race is part of an identity : you seem to see black race as being inferior, compensating through bashing people from other races. race is a myth, as long as you want it to be... good luck.

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KiloMcG
Member since Jan 01st 2008
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Thu Sep-15-16 03:21 PM

192. "and away we go!"
In response to Reply # 191
Thu Sep-15-16 03:23 PM by KiloMcG

>race is part of an identity : you seem to see black race as
>being inferior, compensating through bashing people from other
>races. race is a myth, as long as you want it to be... good
>luck.

Atillah gonna get you. and rightfully so. race isn't a myth when societies are structured based on it.

this part i agree with, though.

>people don't kill themselves over situational cicumstances : if they >are emotionally healthy they can deal with that

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Atillah Moor
Member since Sep 05th 2013
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Thu Sep-15-16 03:25 PM

194. "Just a sec Willow. I'm listening to Kojo Nnamdi and Kwame Ture atm "
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Kwesi
Member since Jan 11th 2004
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Thu Sep-15-16 03:36 PM

195. "*plays Evening Exchange theme music*"
In response to Reply # 194

classic.

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willothewisp
Member since Feb 07th 2003
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Thu Sep-15-16 03:46 PM

199. "I'm listening to Rokia traore, who cares..."
In response to Reply # 194

I admit that race affects people... i'm not as good looking as I'd like to be, I'm not as smart as i'd like to be...deal with it...making the best of it, yeah?

I know I won't convince you, it cuts deeper...lovely women think their breasts are too small or their ass too big... it is what it is. Withtout serious soul searching, there is no way out.. it is what it is.

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Atillah Moor
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Thu Sep-15-16 05:18 PM

210. "Plenty of people kill themselves over situational circumstances "
In response to Reply # 191

People jumped from the twin towers rather than burn to death

People killed themselves after losing their investments during the 1929 stock market crash

Africans killed themselves by jumping off ships rather than endure the middle passage to the Americas and Caribbean

The Japanese kill themselves for a number of situational reasons. the loss of face or honor chief among them

So willow you are 100% incorrect in stating the following:

people don't kill themselves over situational cicumstances : if they are emotionally healthy they can deal with that : the problem lies in their past, mostly with their parents.

>race is part of an identity : you seem to see black race as
>being inferior,

Incorrect. I don't believe humans from any continent or culture are different races of human. Science agrees with me. Therefore people with brown skin can not be inferior to humans with less, little, or no brown skin.

>races. race is a myth, as long as you want it to be... good
>luck.

Agreed as far as it being a valid construct, but it's clearly a widely accepted social one that people who wish to identify as white will kill, maim, rape, etc over. Any halfway decent American history book or Ken Burns documentary will prove this. Hell just watch a Trump rally.

For the record I also don't believe in luck. I do believe that someone who has indirectly benefited from the destruction and mutilation of the Congolese people, who for long periods of time struggles with just feeling anything, and who reads the works of nihilists may not be the best suited for speaking on the effects of race or the reality of it within American or European society.

I do however wish you the best in regard to dealing with your depression and have hopefully been sensitive to it in my response.

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willothewisp
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Fri Sep-16-16 12:19 PM

280. "RE: Plenty of people kill themselves over situational circumstances "
In response to Reply # 210
Fri Sep-16-16 12:39 PM by willothewisp

I no longer suffer from depressive feelings, but thank you, see, we can connect on a human level.

You might not see it but I am trying to help you, from my life experience. I'd like for you to be happy.

Nietszche is not a nihilist (I'm guessing you are referring to him), he valued the true meaning of feeling and growing into yourself.

From an object relations theory kind of view people (part of psychoanalytical thought), in the paranoid schizoid position people view people as all bad or all good. This isn't as simple as it seems : by viewing people as "all bad", they can continue to long for the perfect object : all good. That isn't realistic though, but they still want it, because they have been deprived of love : people with deficits don't take distance from people - they do on a conscious level - but on an unconscious level they long for that unconditional love... thing is : you need to make that true for yourself, nobody else can do it, which isn't to say that some people can't help you. Not to worry, everybody does this when stressed, that doesn't mean that you have a borderline personality disorder (a hallmark of that disorder; i personally think you are just very young, no offence). According to Kernberg everyone with a personality disorder except the obsessive compulsive (maybe hysterical an yada yada, not taken into account in the DSM (diagnostic manual of mental disorders)

Anxiety triggers defence mechanisme in accordance to psychodynamic thought. Again, nothing to worry about, when your defences are mature (humor, sublimation...), but if you really want to grow you will need to addres this, look past it : what do I really want? (in contact with other people).... be honest with yourself, and with your fellow man... we have all been hurt.

I have fought against society too... but in the end you will lose... only few people are capable of going totally against the grain : the people who are most at peace with themselves (and that usually means some sort of peace with other people, how different they might be from you). I liked Herbert Marcuse... but he offers no solutions. Find a place for yoursel, a place that is all yours. A negative identity won't help you in the long run.

Take care.

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Atillah Moor
Member since Sep 05th 2013
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Fri Sep-16-16 12:39 PM

285. "Well glad to hear it and some of what you typed is helpful"
In response to Reply # 280

I'll leave it at that.

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willothewisp
Member since Feb 07th 2003
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Fri Sep-16-16 12:44 PM

288. "RE: Well glad to hear it and some of what you typed is helpful"
In response to Reply # 285

peace.

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makaveli
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Thu Sep-15-16 03:22 PM

193. "maybe because you are talking about one person"
In response to Reply # 189

and decided that because this one "white" person did this, then all the rest of them would? also, I don't think I've ever heard a "white" person respond "white" when asked what their ethnicity is.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

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Atillah Moor
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Thu Sep-15-16 05:26 PM

211. "Well if one white person turns a blind eye to injustice others will too"
In response to Reply # 193

Happens with white police all the time does it not?

so now that's two examples. Let me know if you'd like more.

You may not have heard but I know I have and I've certainly heard the phrase "At least I'm white" which was the result of me telling a guy with a Polish dad and Mexican mom that he was basically passing. So there's that.

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denny
Member since Apr 11th 2008
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Thu Sep-15-16 03:37 PM

196. "to be honest...I'd thought you'd agree with me on this."
In response to Reply # 189
Thu Sep-15-16 03:44 PM by denny

It's a lot of your analysis that I'm talking about when I'm referring to 'white default'.

Imo, race just simply isn't a big issue for white people. Being white is not a large part of our self-identity because it doesn't HAVE to be. That's part of the privilege of being white. Race doesn't HAVE to be a big issue. And as it relates to this specific topic....racial issues are typically extremely low on the radar for suicidal white people. I'm arguing that race is much more likely to play a part in the suicidal feelings of a minority than for a member of the majority.

It's only anecdotal...but I've known four white people who've committed suicide. I can pretty much guarantee that race did not play a factor whatsoever in their despair. That is not to deny that there's a 'white man's burden' thing going around....with white people complaining about Obama and seeing so many minorities on tv nowadays and all that. I see white people reacting like that too....I just don't think it has anything to do with the suicide increase.

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Kwesi
Member since Jan 11th 2004
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Thu Sep-15-16 03:43 PM

197. "guys. let's not forget about the data."
In response to Reply # 196

the data white guys are doing it way more than everyone else.

what do all white guys have in common, that they don't have in common with everyone else?

do they simply & sincerely lack the will to live lately?

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willothewisp
Member since Feb 07th 2003
1089 posts

Thu Sep-15-16 03:51 PM

200. "RE: guys. let's not forget about the data."
In response to Reply # 197
Thu Sep-15-16 03:51 PM by willothewisp

can you not read kwesi?

america stresses individualism, but that is only part of what makes a man happy, the other part is "connection", and you failed to give that to them... other cultures and races are not that individualism oriented... it preserves mental health.

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denny
Member since Apr 11th 2008
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Thu Sep-15-16 04:02 PM

203. "True."
In response to Reply # 197

The numbers don't lie. I just don't think experiences relating to race are driving it.

So just throwing stuff out there:

The opiate epidemic is disproportionately affecting white people. One could ask why that is too.....I've seen a theory that doctors are less sympathetic to black pain and therefor less likely to prescribe meds. Also, black americans typically receive less health care than other races and the meds are delivered THROUGH health care.

I wonder if there's a correlation between suicide and aetheism? Not sure of my assumption....but aren't white people in America more likely to be aetheist? That might be a factor.

Not sure if those two things are legitimate factors....but I'd say that's a better start than black actors getting cast in marvel movies.

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willothewisp
Member since Feb 07th 2003
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Thu Sep-15-16 04:34 PM

207. "RE: True."
In response to Reply # 203
Thu Sep-15-16 04:35 PM by willothewisp

religion is ok as a means, but not as and end in my opinion. it might give hope, but it is also restrictive. ok to guide, not to confine imo. freud considerd religion as delusion, the all knowing and all caring parent is projected; Jung saw this as a step of individuation, much like art.... Who is to say?

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ambient1
Member since May 23rd 2007
41077 posts

Fri Sep-16-16 10:52 AM

269. "LMAOOOO @ this--> opiate epidemic is disproportionately affecting "
In response to Reply # 203

white people

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Coolin...

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denny
Member since Apr 11th 2008
11281 posts

Mon Sep-19-16 03:15 AM

335. "Feel free to articulate yourself."
In response to Reply # 269

Maybe you think it's an understatement. Maybe you think it's untrue. Either way you're wrong.

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ambient1
Member since May 23rd 2007
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Tue Sep-20-16 11:43 AM

349. "i live in a city that had a dope epidemic for the past 25yrs"
In response to Reply # 335

affecting us and nobody gave/gives a shit....disproportionately

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denny
Member since Apr 11th 2008
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Tue Sep-20-16 01:02 PM

352. "That's why you were laughing your ass off?"
In response to Reply # 349
Tue Sep-20-16 01:31 PM by denny

So let me get this straight.

This:

https://www.cdc.gov/drugoverdose/epidemic/

Is all bullshit because you live in a city that has had an opiate problem for 25 years and noone cared. Come to think of it...that is pretty hilarious.

There are these things called numbers. They measure things. Your city has them too. But the numbers that pertain to your city may not be reflective of the society as a whole.

The numbers that ARE reflective of the society as a whole indicate that opiate use has quadrupled since 1999 in America. This fact and the assertion that people have used dope in ambient1's city for 25 years fall under the law of noncontradiction. That means that both assertions can be true at the same time! Not quite magic but close.

White people make up 62% of the American population. MORE than 62% of the people that have taken up opiate use since 1999 are white. This is what the term 'disproportionate' means. I imagine there is some sort of value judgement you are assigning to this fact. Perhaps it's something like 'This guy thinks white people can disproportionate? laughing my ass off'. Similar to the suicide rate which is the subject of this thread....white people are being over-represented amongst opiate users by percentage at a consistently increasing rate from the time period 1999 to current day which is referred to as 'the opiate epidemic'.

I'm not sure what value judgement you THINK i am assigning to this FACT...and taking contention with....because I am not assigning one in the first place. However....I AM suggesting that this steady increase in white opiate abuse may be connected to the steady increase of white suicide.

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Atillah Moor
Member since Sep 05th 2013
13825 posts

Thu Sep-15-16 05:39 PM

213. "for the most part we are and I hate to say it but you're in Canada"
In response to Reply # 196
Thu Sep-15-16 05:41 PM by Atillah Moor

>Imo, race just simply isn't a big issue for white people.

Isn't Canada like in the 90% range as far as it's white demographic is concerned?

>Being white is not a large part of our self-identity because
>it doesn't HAVE to be.

Again Canada didn't have a civil war over how to best mistreat or exploit black people. America has centuries of racial practice upon racial practice.

That's part of the privilege of being
>white. Race doesn't HAVE to be a big issue. And as it
>relates to this specific topic....racial issues are typically
>extremely low on the radar for suicidal white people.

This I wouldn't argue. At best my only valid point is that given the circumstances in the US it is extremely odd that white males would be experiencing high rates of suicide. White women would make more sense by comparison.

> I'm arguing that race is much more likely to play a part in the
>suicidal feelings of a minority than for a member of the
>majority.

Perhaps. Seems logical at least within the society of the US.

>It's only anecdotal...but I've known four white people who've
>committed suicide. I can pretty much guarantee that race did
>not play a factor whatsoever in their despair.

I hear you and know that there are myriad other reason why someone would take their life. Suicide is high in Norway as well and there are certainly not a lot of non-whites there.

>That is not to deny that there's a 'white man's burden' thing going
>around....with white people complaining about Obama and seeing
>so many minorities on tv nowadays and all that. I see white
>people reacting like that too....I just don't think it has
>anything to do with the suicide increase.

Well I don't know if I'd say "so many" lol. Personally I'm not saying whites are taking their lives because of non whites I'm just curious as to what outside of family or emotional issues would lead someone with the most things in their favor to take their life at higher rate than those with less.

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denny
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Thu Sep-15-16 07:51 PM

242. "RE: for the most part we are and I hate to say it but you're in Canada"
In response to Reply # 213

>Isn't Canada like in the 90% range as far as it's white
>demographic is concerned?

I don't think it's quite that high but yah, nationally-speaking...we're not even close to the diversity of the States. Though I do live in Toronto which is very diverse and seen as the most 'American' Canadian city. Most of the people I grew up with were non-white.
You're right though. There's a big difference. Just recently, this Kapernick thing has been another example where you can see the difference. I work in sports media and there is a very positive consensus in complete support of Kap. In fact...I have not read/heard ONE single Canadian media figure criticize Kap. I would imagine that there would be a backlash against anyone who did. Sharp contrast with the States. I know it's a relatively small indicator...but little things like that often remind me that racism isn't the same here.

>This I wouldn't argue. At best my only valid point is that
>given the circumstances in the US it is extremely odd that
>white males would be experiencing high rates of suicide. White
>women would make more sense by comparison.

Yah. It's a fair and interesting question. In terms of gender....men ALWAYS commit suicide at much higher rates....across cultures...across time periods. I think different mental illness' are partly culturally determined and re-enforced. White people are also disproportionally diagnosed with stuff like Tourette's syndrome....eating disorders....ADD. It's certainly a worthwhile area of investigation....but let's face it...alot of this thread is anti-white pot-shots. Coldtruth wasn't out of line to point out that there have been OKP members who haved suffered from suicidal thoughts and that the tone of this post is, in parts, disgusting and dismissive and disrespectful. I've never thought that about anything you've posted (ever) so I appreciate the respectability of your contributions.

>Well I don't know if I'd say "so many" lol. Personally I'm not
>saying whites are taking their lives because of non whites I'm
>just curious as to what outside of family or emotional issues
>would lead someone with the most things in their favor to take
>their life at higher rate than those with less.

I wonder if atheism has anything to do with it. It might explain the difference in race. Also the opiate epidemic. Contrary to what alot of the bozos here think....black people are suffering from that too....but the numbers show that white people are disproportionately affected by it. Opiate addiction results in suicide to a greater degree than other drugs or booze. But I'm pretty sure that white people have ALWAYS committed suicide at higher rates. The reason it's being talked about more is because the gap has widened the past 10 to 15 years.

There's also the relative quality of life. So with the economic downturn...we're seeing a big drop in generational wealth for white people. Basically, families that aren't used to being poor. It's one of those things. My family has been successful recently and we're all walking on cloud 9. We're almost upper middle class now but we're accustomed to being mid-lower. So we FEEL rich as hell. If we were born millionaires and dropped to our current position...we would FEEL poor.

I don't know....just throwing things out there. What do you got?

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Atillah Moor
Member since Sep 05th 2013
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Fri Sep-16-16 09:47 AM

257. "I had forgotten that men in fact do commit suicide at higher rates "
In response to Reply # 242

and that's sort of a key factor I'd guess. Atheism could play a role, but at the same time there are plenty of Atheists that don't kill themselves and you make a good point about the perception of poverty. I tend to believe that at times can be a key factor as well as it certainly appears to be a source of stress within white culture here in the states at least.

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willothewisp
Member since Feb 07th 2003
1089 posts

Tue Sep-20-16 10:26 AM

347. "simple explanation is that men are more agressive in nature"
In response to Reply # 257
Tue Sep-20-16 10:26 AM by willothewisp

But then again, women self mutilate more. Perhaps men are more solution oriented (a solution by theirself)? if you self mutilate there is a chance that someone sees it and notices that something is wrong (more relationship-oriented).

There are all types of destructive behavior... suicide is the quickest way to die.

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willothewisp
Member since Feb 07th 2003
1089 posts

Tue Sep-20-16 11:57 AM

350. "RE: simple explanation is that men are more agressive in nature"
In response to Reply # 347

compared to men more women seek professional help too I think, or faster. More men with psychiatric problems end up in jail too.

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willothewisp
Member since Feb 07th 2003
1089 posts

Thu Sep-15-16 10:12 AM

155. "RE: and you are very white"
In response to Reply # 141

I am bored

yes, I'm very white (since it seems that important to you...), people have thought i was Spanish, Italian, Turkish, Eastern- European, Indian, I couldn't care less.

You clearly haven't read about my past. Do you think this hurts me, lol. try your best friend telling yourself to kill yourself, that she supports this, and then dumping you. i have been analysing myself, with the help of my psychologist, for 8 years, this doesn't come anywhere near huring me.

i forgot the quote from Nietszche, but it was something along the case from : people will do what is possible with the least possible mental effort.. someone should burst your bubble, but I know know you will not accept... untill you are ready.

Bye bye

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legsdiamond
Member since May 05th 2011
79499 posts

Thu Sep-15-16 12:15 PM

178. "umm.. bye bye"
In response to Reply # 155

****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

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Atillah Moor
Member since Sep 05th 2013
13825 posts

Thu Sep-15-16 09:48 AM

146. " some of them cant deal with this changing tide at all. See #140"
In response to Reply # 140

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Mack
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Fri Sep-16-16 12:40 PM

286. "^ that sums it all up"
In response to Reply # 136

"Dressed up like an evil villain dressed up like a soccer dad"

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j.
Member since Feb 24th 2009
3819 posts

Thu Sep-15-16 03:58 PM

202. "Amo estos posts cuando se ponen con sus peleas raciales"
In response to Reply # 0

Este sitio es una mirada a la psiquis de los Estados Unidos, es muy educacional y constructivo

(Put that in your google translate)

But my question is
How are you (both black and white OKP's) dealing with the "browning" (that term is hilarious) of America?

For the longest time we were used to staying low key and among our own, but those days are coming to an end.

How's your español?

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SoWhat
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154163 posts

Thu Sep-15-16 04:54 PM

209. "Oop."
In response to Reply # 202

Y'all got next. Fo sho. They even got Mexicans in NYC now! It's on.

fuck you.

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makaveli
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Thu Sep-15-16 05:31 PM

212. "De donde eres?"
In response to Reply # 202

Mi hijo es Dominicano entonces esta bien conmigo.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

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Atillah Moor
Member since Sep 05th 2013
13825 posts

Thu Sep-15-16 05:41 PM

214. "Mi Espanol es asi asi "
In response to Reply # 202

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Kwesi
Member since Jan 11th 2004
7370 posts

Thu Sep-15-16 06:51 PM

221. "too early for an archive?"
In response to Reply # 0

I think this is a good one.

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Cold Truth
Member since Jan 28th 2004
44828 posts

Thu Sep-15-16 07:02 PM

223. "It'll be a nice marker for your various timeouts, yes. "
In response to Reply # 221

Since it's going to be one of only a handful of posts until your next long ass visit to lurker status they may as well give you something to look back on to see how productive your brief time back was.

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Kwesi
Member since Jan 11th 2004
7370 posts

Thu Sep-15-16 07:07 PM

225. "sliiiiiiiide to the right!"
In response to Reply # 223

sliiiiiide to the left.

now dip, baby dip!

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Cold Truth
Member since Jan 28th 2004
44828 posts

Thu Sep-15-16 07:11 PM

228. "You're trying soooo hard not to get banned right now. "
In response to Reply # 225

You know it.
I know it.

You're fighting it, but it's there.

So much for opting out, unsubscribing, being done, wanting me to scram, beat it, and whatnot. Safe to say you were lying, like when you "bowed out"?

Tick tock, Kwesi.

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Kwesi
Member since Jan 11th 2004
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Thu Sep-15-16 07:12 PM

229. "whoooop! there it isssssss!"
In response to Reply # 228

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Cold Truth
Member since Jan 28th 2004
44828 posts

Thu Sep-15-16 07:15 PM

232. "Are you going to your happy place right now?"
In response to Reply # 229

What's it like?

I mean, *I* know what your happy place is, but I'm just curious if you can get descriptive for me.

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Kwesi
Member since Jan 11th 2004
7370 posts

Thu Sep-15-16 07:17 PM

234. "i put my hand up on my hip. when i dip, you dip, we dip!"
In response to Reply # 232

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Cold Truth
Member since Jan 28th 2004
44828 posts

Thu Sep-15-16 07:21 PM

236. "Ooosagoodboy! Goodboy patches, goodboy!"
In response to Reply # 234

You’ve been completely neutered. So sad.

No balls left. The old Kwesi would have said some shit about my kids or my wife by now.

This new iteration just spams his own posts into oblivion.

You must REALLY like posting here.

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Kwesi
Member since Jan 11th 2004
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Thu Sep-15-16 07:24 PM

237. "STEP STEP, SIDE TO SIDE. STEP IN THE NAME OF LOOOOOOOVE!"
In response to Reply # 236

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SeV
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50207 posts

Fri Sep-16-16 12:29 PM

283. "Yea..u ain't slick bruh"
In response to Reply # 236

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Dallas Cavericks LETS GO!!

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Cold Truth
Member since Jan 28th 2004
44828 posts

Fri Sep-16-16 12:51 PM

291. "No idea what the fuck your stupid ass is babbling about"
In response to Reply # 283

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SeV
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50207 posts

Fri Sep-16-16 01:03 PM

301. "right."
In response to Reply # 291

Just letting u kno I see it.

Carry on tho.
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Cold Truth
Member since Jan 28th 2004
44828 posts

Fri Sep-16-16 01:08 PM

302. "Please explain, you mealy mouthed troll"
In response to Reply # 301

Don’t dance around your point.

Own whatever it is that you have to say.

Don’t chime in trying to join the fray by nibbling at the edges.

Just spit it out.

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Kwesi
Member since Jan 11th 2004
7370 posts

Fri Sep-16-16 01:11 PM

303. "hahahahha.. this posts asks the question 'white people, you good?'"
In response to Reply # 302

and it's clear from this guy's behavior/response/total MO that you're not.

it's all so crystal clear.

...

ok, cold truth.

TIME TO DANCE SOME MORE!

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Cold Truth
Member since Jan 28th 2004
44828 posts

Fri Sep-16-16 01:14 PM

304. "Sure got me there. It's about to be a banner day for you"
In response to Reply # 303

Enjoy it while it lasts, rex.

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SeV
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50207 posts

Fri Sep-16-16 01:28 PM

307. "I didn't think an explanation was needed with his thorough Black experie..."
In response to Reply # 303

Guess I was wrong

Doubt it tho

He knows gotdamb well what he did

He's done it before

Dude is slik

Btw I knew dude was on the verge of going ham after his 'good will' post earlier this week

He does that ish to not be a complete shyt bag on here

Quite manipulative

But I see it.

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Cold Truth
Member since Jan 28th 2004
44828 posts

Fri Sep-16-16 01:57 PM

309. "Splain, Lucy, or run along"
In response to Reply # 307

Far as the rest of that shit, you're a fucking buffoon.

I went ham because motherfuckers came at me.... And I went ham ON the people who came at me.

The fact that you're trying to conflate my post for a guy I've grown to know and deeply respect over the years that was made to return a very particular favor after ten years during a difficult time in his life with me going hard at a few dudes who came at me crazy is easily more reprehensible than whatever you're trying to imply here.

Nah

You're trash bruh. Kick rocks with that shit.

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SeV
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50207 posts

Fri Sep-16-16 02:14 PM

310. "Yea yea always the victim "
In response to Reply # 309
Fri Sep-16-16 02:18 PM by SeV

Never complicit

Got it

As far as that post goes I stand by what I said

Never said it wasn't genuine

But as uv done before like when u opened up about ur depression and interaction with ur kid after bring on an epic shyt bag run on here

U just did the same thing again like clockwork

I see it bruh

As far as the other shyt

U kno

But u can't admit it can u

Playing dumb and proving Kwesi right is the lesser evil

Also trying to bait people into getting banned is such a Ho move btw

But im done

U can have the last word...paragraph

Whatever u choose to do

Just letting u kno I see it

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Cold Truth
Member since Jan 28th 2004
44828 posts

Fri Sep-16-16 02:51 PM

311. "Pssst... you're the one saying I'm not complicit, dummy"
In response to Reply # 310
Fri Sep-16-16 02:58 PM by Cold Truth

>Never complicit
>Got it

Odd, complicity means involvement with others

The popular slant among you and others is always that I'm wilin out in a fucking vacuum, like you're all out for a pleasant stroll and sniffing daisies when I jump out and assault you out of nowhere.

But... uh... sorry, I call this shit out consistently and IN REAL FUCKING TIME. The latest and greatest was that IG post, the one that set off this current exchange.

You say this shit like I don't have specific and consistently...AHEM.... complicit partners in these exchanges, so you can sit the fuck down on this one.

>As far as that post goes I stand by what I said

You would, because you're trash.

>But as uv done before like when u opened up about ur
>depression and interaction with ur kid after bring on an epic
>shyt bag run on here

Shit bag? Look inward for that. By the way, is there a reason you still type like your twelve?

Again: you act like it's just me in room with nobody else and I'm just going HAM. You pretend guys like Kwesi are just nice guys walking around on a warm spring afternoon, just minding their business when I jump from the rafters and start capping knees.

You, and others, consistently leave out massive pieces of story that tells a different story.

>As far as the other shyt
>
>U kno
>
>But u can't admit it can u
>
>Playing dumb and proving Kwesi right is the lesser evil

Nope, sorry, seriously no clue what the fuck you're going on about.

Basically you don't have anything to fucking say and you just wanted to chime in using your usual shtick of nibbling around the edges of deeper personal shit.

You like to "bring up" shit like my wife and kids and depression and, in this case, my post to Po to fuck with me. Aside from Kwesi nobody else mentions that shit in these exchanges, but you seem to be intent on dropping that into many of our exchanges. All this talk about being "slik"- sidenote, for the love of god, learn to fucking spell words like you aren't some ten year old in 1993 wearing a loonie tunes gangster tee- but you sure like to bring those things up an awful lot.

on You don't see a gotdamn thing. As much as you've typed there's just no good reason for you not to spit out whatever the fuck you're implying.

>Also trying to bait people into getting banned is such a Ho
>move btw

LMAO this dude STAYS screaming for mods to come save him.

Plus, I mean, you're a fucking moron if you think he needs help getting banned. He's done that plenty well all by himself for years.

Haven't you had a few timeouts by the way? No wonder your sensitive to that. Talk about playing a victim, you're one of the louder guys whining about the mods putting their collective boot in your ass for being the habitual line stepper YOUR bitch ass is.

No run along. Don't speak to me until you grow some balls to say what the fuck you mean.

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Madvillain 626
Member since Apr 25th 2006
10018 posts

Fri Sep-16-16 01:56 AM

246. "white people created the city that consumed them"
In response to Reply # 0
Fri Sep-16-16 01:57 AM by Madvillain 626

for all the shit black people gotta deal with, we still got each other. That connection keeps folks from dropping out completely. Plus a human needs a mission, even "combating white supremacy and making a place in the world" can be a mission that gives ones life purpose.

Having everything set up for you can create a boredom that turns into self destruction.

Loneliness can kill a motherfucker dead regardless of your color, gender, size, income, whatever. For lots of reasons, white men can be some lonely muhfuckas. Like someone said in here, they ride hard for that individualism when that's not all of what makes a person happy.

Thats why middle class/suburban blacks are more suicide prone than their hood counterparts. You get a taste of that isolation of modern living ON TOP of cism? Shieeeett

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If life is stupendous one cannot also demand that it should be easy. - Robert Musil

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NoDrawls McGraw
Member since Jun 24th 2007
12122 posts

Fri Sep-16-16 08:26 AM

252. "A very good synopsis, Duke!"
In response to Reply # 246

#jewelry

https://chriswind.bandcamp.com/track/massage

"You can take an African out of Africa, but you can't take Africa out of the African"
Afro-Americana/Afro-Caribbana/Afro-Latino unite. We are ALL Black!

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TheAlbionist
Member since Jul 04th 2011
3306 posts

Fri Sep-16-16 10:33 AM

263. "Out of interest..."
In response to Reply # 246
Fri Sep-16-16 10:39 AM by TheAlbionist

>Having everything set up for you can create a boredom that
>turns into self destruction.
>

Does this also apply to the ~20 Million Americans born and raised in Trailer Park USA?

(btw I agree with the main thrust of your post entirely - very succinct too)

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howardlloyd
Member since Jan 18th 2007
2729 posts

Sun Sep-18-16 04:09 PM

331. "RE: white people created the city that consumed them"
In response to Reply # 246

>they ride hard for that individualism when that's not
>all of what makes a person happy.

its also why they have a negative birth rate... they dont even want kids they so individual

https://www.rt.com/usa/us-white-births-census-613/

honestly i think it all links into non-spirituality... but who am i

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TheAlbionist
Member since Jul 04th 2011
3306 posts

Fri Sep-16-16 06:51 AM

248. "Existence. Expectations. Reality."
In response to Reply # 0
Fri Sep-16-16 06:51 AM by TheAlbionist

It's not about racial policy or anything like that - racial policy doesn't hugely affect white people, especially not negatively. I think one of the biggest issues affecting white happiness in America is a lack of meaning to existence... it's always been obvious in the 1st world what our goals are... do better than our parents... we're the first generation that knows it won't achieve that en masse... in fact massive swathes of people will leave full-time education for long-term unemployment.

The average working class white guy isn't treated by the economy like a sacred cow, given a unionized job, a final salary pension and prepared to find personal pride through honest labor any more - we're all raised by institutions and media that remind us at every step that white people are "front of the queue" and "have no excuses" and that we're "special flowers" that deserve to find our own unique place in the world where our every beck and whim are catered to with celeb-level opulence... when actually we should've been prepared, like our parents were, to find ample existential meaning on the production line at the local stamping factory rather than spending our lives depressed because our blog dedicated to the local organic farmer's market scene is only getting 30 readers or simply giving up because all the options given to working class people by the economy in 2016 are seen as "beneath".

We have very similar issues in the UK. There used to be endless working class jobs and there still are a lot, but through the 80s/90s moneygrab culture and the closure of major industries like mining, steel production and manufacturing British-born people were taught by Thatcher to believe they were "above" the sort of work involved in actually earning an honest living. Fruit picking, food packing, production line jobs etc - because of weak labor laws and a lack of "native" interest these jobs all get taken by immigrants willing to work for pennies, who are then accused of "stealing" them from the locals who never wanted them in the first place.

It's pretty standard expectation vs reality stuff. Expectations of all our kids MUST be managed... it'll benefit everyone in the long run.

Socialism is the answer. Flatten the expectations. Flatten the opportunities. You've got to raise up the trailer parks at the same time as the ghettos and neither can happen until you claw back enough capital from the top 1%. They'll keep pitting us working class people against each other for as long as they can so we tear lumps off each other instead of them.

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B9
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Fri Sep-16-16 08:01 AM

249. "Who could possibly answer why others commit suicide? But a theory"
In response to Reply # 0

and I think it also applies to the current rage-politics cycle, on both sides (Trump and Bernie), is that the myth of the middle class from the 50s to the 80s, along with the dropping majority dominance of the white straight able-bodied male, is freaking straight white men out. Have you ever seen a sick dog or wounded wild animal and how they recede and become really aggressive and violent to anything that gets near them, knowing that they are easy pickings? That.

All that said, depression and the stigma around addressing it and REALLY addressing it with a clinical approach and not turning to counter-productive self medication is a real damn issue, for all classes of people. And I don't know why that is the issue now more than ever. Maybe the cost or access to treatment is seen as prohibitive? Hard to tell.

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okayplayery
Member since Aug 25th 2012
518 posts

Fri Sep-16-16 08:41 AM

253. "Season 2 of the Wire"
In response to Reply # 0

Identity crisis.
Blue collar working whites aren't really needed by the System anymore.

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TheAlbionist
Member since Jul 04th 2011
3306 posts

Fri Sep-16-16 09:59 AM

258. "Yep."
In response to Reply # 253
Fri Sep-16-16 10:01 AM by TheAlbionist

They've been told to expect better than blue collar employment, but blue collar employment is all there is (and has ever been or ever will be) for most. And the expectations that white Americans won't take the jobs push the offered wages lower than white 20-somethings been taught to accept which bolsters the whole effect.

A great deal of working class white people are raised to expect the economy of the 1950s where they can get an unskilled, unionised job for life that will afford them a family home and respectable existence within commutable distance of work.

That situation no longer exists.

Jobs either require skill amounted through years of training and experience or they're offered at rock-bottom wages which only appeal to non-natives who are sending their money to families in worse economies.

The only answer is to raise wages for *everyone* and that can only be done by attacking the pockets of the elites at the top of the system.

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MiracleRic
Member since Oct 21st 2002
45200 posts

Fri Sep-16-16 11:10 AM

270. "I do think this post is problematic"
In response to Reply # 0

mainly bc it's serious...this flies purely as a joke...

but if you are really curious about this...it seems lazy and biased as fuck to attribute white male suicide rates with some sort of racial resentment...

or as if privilege of any kind is some barrier to depression/mental illness

all you have to do is question your shitty hypothesis with things like "why do men in general commit suicide at way higher rates?"

don't get me wrong...there are cultural contributing factors like religion/atheism...

i can't articulate it too well right now bc it's just sad that people get so entrenched in their biases...

Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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Atillah Moor
Member since Sep 05th 2013
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Fri Sep-16-16 11:22 AM

274. "it simply mirrors the problematic nature of US society "
In response to Reply # 270
Fri Sep-16-16 11:23 AM by Atillah Moor

Which is totally ok

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Kwesi
Member since Jan 11th 2004
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Fri Sep-16-16 11:25 AM

275. "is the post problematic, or do people have problems with the author?"
In response to Reply # 270

I didn't couch this as a joke.

but the jokers like to find problems with me as the author.

there's data, and then there the interpretation of data.

how (or who) do you think this post should've been typed?

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willothewisp
Member since Feb 07th 2003
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Fri Sep-16-16 12:27 PM

281. "RE: is the post problematic, or do people have problems with the author?"
In response to Reply # 275
Fri Sep-16-16 12:34 PM by willothewisp

you should've questioned your premisse. People kill themselves in other societies too. You are on to something with what you described as "feeling a loser". People want to convince me that this is situational, but I am not convinced, from personal experience and from aquantances who commited suiced... I could see the fear in their eyes when people were asked to look other people directly in the face in therapy... they were uncomfortable... those are the ones who commited suicide first. it didn't reach them on an emotional level... the level of insight. Something situational might mean the drop or wheigh particularly heavy, but that is because it resonates with them deep down : they suddenly feel like this is who they are... depression, anger turned inwards... yada yada... people aren't born to function like this... they are made to.

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MiracleRic
Member since Oct 21st 2002
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Mon Sep-19-16 08:20 AM

340. "this could have been posted by Jesus himself"
In response to Reply # 275

no need to deflect

it's a leading question...

i didn't say you were joking...i'm saying that people with less bias question their own hypotheses a little be more before attributing these issues to race unless they are aiming for white people do this and black people do that laughs

ask why men in general commit suicide at a higher rate...there are so many questions that would lead you away from some of the suggestions in here...being black and marginalized seems to give us a real nice shield (cause it's not systemic) to be bigoted idiots sometimes...even smart, reasonable folks

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Kwesi
Member since Jan 11th 2004
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Mon Sep-19-16 09:30 AM

344. "white people do this and black people do that laughs? jesus, guys."
In response to Reply # 340

wake up.

this isn't a simple man woman thing.

yes. men commit it more than women.

but white men.

its data!

...

similar to how the post about the bottoms of white womens feet are so fucking crusty'.

i think yall really dont like typing about whitey in too bad a way because it makes you feel uncomfortable.

but be it a post about some fucked up shit black people be on.

we up and down it.

just laughing at black people do this i guess?

tough call guys.

didn't mean to make people feel THAT uncomfortable.

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_deacon_
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Fri Sep-16-16 12:57 PM

298. "that fine line between sarcasm, insult, and mock-concern. "
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NoDrawls McGraw
Member since Jun 24th 2007
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Fri Sep-16-16 10:04 PM

313. "* *Do The Right Thing OKP* *"
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Ya'll know what it is...

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"You can take an African out of Africa, but you can't take Africa out of the African"
Afro-Americana/Afro-Caribbana/Afro-Latino unite. We are ALL Black!

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Kwesi
Member since Jan 11th 2004
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Fri Sep-16-16 10:37 PM

315. "starts with an 'a', rhymes a little with chive?"
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Cold Truth
Member since Jan 28th 2004
44828 posts

Sat Sep-17-16 12:17 AM

316. "You're another piece of work/shit"
In response to Reply # 313

You do this like it isn't antagonistic as fuck

You motherfuckers need to take a long hard look at that mirror

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mellowboogie
Member since Jun 26th 2006
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Sun Sep-18-16 07:16 AM

320. "A dude I know committed suicide last week. Young, white male. Made me "
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think of this post. I had a conversation with someone about why so many young males go down this path.

We're not American but my friend suggested that there is a lack of culture in white American society. There is a lack of passion in the daily life of middle class white america that makes for a somewhat 'boring' setting when growing up. He used American beauty as an example. He suggested that In Black, Latino & Asian Americans there is more vibrance and community life.

I thought this was an interesting point. Not saying I agree or disagree, just thought there could be something in it.

'Music expresses that which cannot be said and on which it is impossible to be silent. ~Victor Hugo'

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Kwesi
Member since Jan 11th 2004
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Sun Sep-18-16 10:10 AM

321. "do you still think this post is stupid?"
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Sun Sep-18-16 10:16 AM by Kwesi

it went a lot of places on it's own.

it was called stupid easily and frequently - but many people left, did the research, scratched their head, and then scratched their head some more.

i really like the point you brought back aboout lacking culture, and being boring.

both of which could be support but culture-vulturing, or even cultural voyeurism (see the end of vince staples video: https://youtu.be/5OAYMMod9Wo?t=3m16s)

...

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makaveli
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Sun Sep-18-16 10:26 AM

322. "yes"
In response to Reply # 321

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

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Kwesi
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Sun Sep-18-16 10:27 AM

323. "why?"
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makaveli
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Sun Sep-18-16 10:48 AM

325. "It's not because of who you are"
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Sun Sep-18-16 10:48 AM by makaveli

It's just that it's stupid.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

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Kwesi
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Sun Sep-18-16 11:18 AM

328. "ok. enough about me. "
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is it the data, or the post that's 'stupid'?

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mellowboogie
Member since Jun 26th 2006
3608 posts

Sun Sep-18-16 11:23 AM

329. "RE: do you still think this post is stupid?"
In response to Reply # 321

I defo don't like the tone you used but the topic is worth discussing, sans sarcasm

'Music expresses that which cannot be said and on which it is impossible to be silent. ~Victor Hugo'

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NoDrawls McGraw
Member since Jun 24th 2007
12122 posts

Sun Sep-18-16 10:45 AM

324. "Say it one mo gin!"
In response to Reply # 320

"there is a lack of culture in white American society."

^ ^ ^Thas the jewel right there. And it permeates their respective behavior towards other *civilizations that -do- have culture.

There are Euro-Americans on this very site that don't get this
and when directly confronted with that reality, left dumbfounded.

I remember explaining cultural boundaries to a white dude on this site years back in correlation with white folks sayin', "Ni&&a", and dude couldn't grasp the concept,....know why?

You can't understand cultural-boundary-dynamics if you have no culture.

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"You can take an African out of Africa, but you can't take Africa out of the African"
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makaveli
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Sun Sep-18-16 10:51 AM

326. "did white people ever have culture?"
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Sun Sep-18-16 10:58 AM by makaveli

Do Irish Americans have culture? How about Italians? Do Jewish people count as white people? Do Greek people count as white people? Do Polish people eat kielbasa?

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

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NoDrawls McGraw
Member since Jun 24th 2007
12122 posts

Sun Sep-18-16 11:10 AM

327. "I don't dignify rhetorical questions with a response..."
In response to Reply # 326

...so instead of the passive aggression, grab your nuts and
directly state what it is that you wish to address, Duke?

I'll wait...

respectfully, NoDrawlz...

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"You can take an African out of Africa, but you can't take Africa out of the African"
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deejboram
Member since Sep 27th 2002
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Sun Sep-18-16 04:13 PM

332. "I don't like your taste in women but i LOVE this response of yours."
In response to Reply # 327

>...so instead of the passive aggression, grab your nuts and
>directly state what it is that you wish to address, Duke?
>
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>I'll wait...
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>respectfully, NoDrawlz...
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****
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Atillah Moor
Member since Sep 05th 2013
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Mon Sep-19-16 09:16 AM

343. "upon coming to America an Irishman once wrote in regard to slavery"
In response to Reply # 326
Mon Sep-19-16 09:20 AM by Atillah Moor

"You did not learn this cruelty in Ireland"

I'd argue that racism, rebellion, and individualism are the largest parts of White American culture.

Oh and violence. Can't forget that one.

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denny
Member since Apr 11th 2008
11281 posts

Mon Sep-19-16 03:20 AM

336. "I think this is a major factor."
In response to Reply # 324

It's tied into the loneliness thing that was articulated above. But yeah....don't know how any statistical analysis could lend proof to this. But I'm on board with this suggestion.

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DeepAztheRoot
Member since Dec 19th 2003
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Mon Sep-19-16 01:00 AM

333. "3 in my extended family"
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Mon Sep-19-16 01:05 AM by DeepAztheRoot

a cousin's teenage son

not totally sure, had been drinking, parents have divorced since then

a cousin's wife in her 30's

suicide ran in her family, she had multiple people in her family who had already ended their life

a cousin's son in his 20's

a bit of a loner, just was tired from what life had to offer I think

plus my brother attempted due to being bullied for being a gay male

South Korea far exceeds the U.S. though, I thought Japan did as well

<-Fear Ameer

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howardlloyd
Member since Jan 18th 2007
2729 posts

Mon Sep-19-16 04:48 AM

338. "don't know about korea"
In response to Reply # 333

but japan is a totally different conversation because it is not only accepted there but is also seen a a tremendously HONORABLE death.

no negative connotations

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MiracleRic
Member since Oct 21st 2002
45200 posts

Mon Sep-19-16 08:24 AM

341. "not quite"
In response to Reply # 338

less religious taboo surrounding it

but it's viewed as extremely selfish and shameful (due to family culture)

as the culture becomes more and more individualistic and technological...its becoming more prevalent but still viewed very negatively

Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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Atillah Moor
Member since Sep 05th 2013
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Mon Sep-19-16 09:12 AM

342. "we talking about Japan? My experience there showed me otherwise"
In response to Reply # 341

when I was there a girl in the MIDDDLE school I worked at committed suicide. Jumped 13 or so stories. Being an outsider I wasn't privy to every cultural nuance surrounding the reactions of the staff and students, but I can say that negative and shameful outlooks were not a part of their reactions. The girl's family however did perhaps experience some degree of shame because it was hinted at i.e. suspected that her family situation was a lead motivator.

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Binlahab
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Mon Sep-19-16 09:36 AM

345. "You holding the crown now, dog. keep the dream alive."
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this shit is dead w/o you. they need you. #excelsior

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atruhead
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Tue Sep-20-16 11:36 AM

348. "lol."
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janey
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Tue Sep-20-16 12:31 PM

351. "I WAS FINE UNTIL ANGELINA FILED FOR DIVORCE"
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Does this mean she'll never adopt me?

~ ~ ~
All meetings end in separation
All acquisition ends in dispersion
All life ends in death
- The Buddha

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