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Crash Bandacoot
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"why so much violence in Chicago?"


          

is it really mostly gang-related?

  

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cause we hate ourselves
Aug 30th 2016
1
This is false
Sep 05th 2016
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      RE: This is the dumbest shit I've ever heard
Sep 05th 2016
18
           You're going down a path you cannot prove
Sep 05th 2016
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                You cannot prove your point neither
Sep 05th 2016
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                     You're spitting mad and not comprehending
Sep 05th 2016
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                          I'm done.
Sep 05th 2016
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RE: why so much violence in Chicago?
Aug 30th 2016
2
thank you.
Aug 30th 2016
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Re: gangs being unstructured
Aug 30th 2016
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RE: Re: gangs being unstructured
Aug 30th 2016
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I don't understand...
Sep 05th 2016
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      RE: I don't understand...
Sep 05th 2016
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      So why don't the state with the lax gun law have high crime???
Sep 05th 2016
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           no shit
Sep 05th 2016
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      lol I know
Sep 05th 2016
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           none of what you just typed is true at all
Sep 05th 2016
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                yes it is
Sep 05th 2016
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                     these dingalings don't know shit and be spouting off at the mouth
Sep 05th 2016
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                     thank you for proving that you have no idea what you're talking about
Sep 05th 2016
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                     ok
Sep 05th 2016
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                     lol Fort Hood? In Texas?
Sep 06th 2016
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                          facts don't matter
Sep 06th 2016
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                     no, it isn't.
Sep 05th 2016
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                          youre three word responses aint helping bruh
Sep 05th 2016
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funny thing is, i would happily walk a few blocks in downtown Chi
Aug 30th 2016
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RE: funny thing is, i would happily walk a few blocks in downtown Chi
Aug 30th 2016
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      totally believe this
Aug 30th 2016
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      A guy got domed in the lobby of a Hilton in the loop....
Sep 04th 2016
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      Yes, it's not Caracas or San Pedro Sula
Sep 05th 2016
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           Namely where Black people live en masse.
Sep 05th 2016
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Youngins got guns.
Aug 30th 2016
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poor, unemployed, guns
Aug 30th 2016
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2pac explains it best --
Aug 30th 2016
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http://i.imgur.com/SS06uww.jpg
Aug 30th 2016
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go to the source
Aug 30th 2016
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Because police want there to be violence there.
Sep 04th 2016
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All the gang leaders were arrested. Child soldiers are running the stre...
Sep 05th 2016
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RE: why so much violence in Chicago?
Sep 05th 2016
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Let's sue FB and IG then
Sep 05th 2016
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      RE: Let's sue FB and IG then
Sep 05th 2016
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           Let's make more strict gun laws for states surrounding Illinois
Sep 05th 2016
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                RE: Let's make more strict gun laws for states surrounding Illinois
Sep 05th 2016
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                ????
Sep 05th 2016
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                     stop replying to him, he's an idiot
Sep 05th 2016
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                     what a way to win an argument
Sep 05th 2016
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                          no, you just let them say things that are demonstrably false
Sep 05th 2016
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                               so it's true indiana's gun laws are the cause of chicago's violence
Sep 05th 2016
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                                    keep talking
Sep 05th 2016
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                                    Lol no one said that shit. You cherrypicked it out of murph's post
Sep 06th 2016
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                     being bad != killing someone
Sep 05th 2016
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                          jesus christ dude
Sep 06th 2016
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DRILL MUSIC and HIGH FAT DIET
Sep 05th 2016
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It's really sad that so many people don't value humanity
Sep 06th 2016
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HELLO.
Sep 06th 2016
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there it is:
Sep 06th 2016
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RE: It's really sad that so many people don't value humanity
Sep 06th 2016
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I feel like Obama should lead a Manhattan Project like effort to cure it
Sep 06th 2016
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My LS's father was shot & killed in Chicago
Sep 06th 2016
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legsdiamond
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1. "cause we hate ourselves"
In response to Reply # 0


          

****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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imo
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17. "This is false"
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You're grossly uninformed and if you are older than 16 you have no one to blame but yourself for this ignorance.

You should look at the violence within all groups in the last 150 years of this country and reevaluate your conclusion. Its clearly tied to jobs and being gainfully employed.

The Italians mob used to terrorize legitimate local Italian businesses in there own neighborhoods to make a buck. Until they were able to be gainfully employed as a group.

You cant expect to have a group of people to have access to only crumbs and think the gun wont bust.

"hey, make this right mayne
stop at the light mayne,
my yester night thang got me hung off the night train "

  

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deejboram
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18. "RE: This is the dumbest shit I've ever heard"
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Every nigga I know that sell dope or is a criminal WANTS to be a criminal
Instead of working at Kaiser or the City as a "maintenance tech" for $15 an hour they rather sell dope or do credit card schemes for tens of thousands only to get caught and do 4 year sentences.

these are the SAME niggas I went to school with a many had more "opportunity" (tight knit family, both parents in home, etc) than i did

some niggas want to be on that instagram life
see niggas throwing thousands in the strip club and they want to be on the same level

they want to push a Wraith but you can't do that stocking diapers at Target

As far as violence???
Most niggas I know that be in jail been bad since birth
like they have been known fighters since elementary school
i'm talking 1st grade
nobody STARTED no tough guy shit in high school
it had already been formed and hardened by then

there are JOBS
niggas just don't want to WORK
you say there are no jobs?
what about the 10 million illegal aliens in this country WORKING them JOBS???
maybe if we deported them there would be more JOBS for these young black men in chicago?

but niggas don't want to slave in a hot ass kitchen or have to clean 12 hotel rooms in a seven hour shift
that's only work for Manuel y Magdelena i guess



>You're grossly uninformed and if you are older than 16 you
>have no one to blame but yourself for this ignorance.
>
>You should look at the violence within all groups in the last
>150 years of this country and reevaluate your conclusion. Its
>clearly tied to jobs and being gainfully employed.
>
>The Italians mob used to terrorize legitimate local Italian
>businesses in there own neighborhoods to make a buck. Until
>they were able to be gainfully employed as a group.
>
>You cant expect to have a group of people to have access to
>only crumbs and think the gun wont bust.

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imo
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20. "You're going down a path you cannot prove"
In response to Reply # 18


  

          

And your use of the n word is disgusting.

I dont want to assume the conclusion of your many statements but please be clear as to what you think the genesis of what you are claiming has been there from the start of these people lives?


Please also explain what happen to the Irish, German and Italian mobs in america? Clearly these groups left the ghetto and clearly their collective 'gang' activity is close to zero.

"hey, make this right mayne
stop at the light mayne,
my yester night thang got me hung off the night train "

  

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23. "You cannot prove your point neither"
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>And your use of the n word is disgusting.
>
>I dont want to assume the conclusion of your many statements
>but please be clear as to what you think the genesis of what
>you are claiming has been there from the start of these people
>lives?


Listen,
Everyone knows right from wrong after about age 8
these kids are 16 years old KILLING OTHER PEOPLE
14 year olds killing other 14 year olds
how is lack of jobs making a 14 year old killing another 14 year old
and why is it that this lack of jobs is (only) affecting 14 year olds in chicago at a MUCH higher rate than in other cities???

Houston has guns EVERYWHERE all up the ying yang
I can go to walmart right now at 9:44am and buy a 12 gauge shotgun for $149 + tax and walk out of there with it in less than 5 mins time

why don't houston or dallas have as high gun violence rates as chicago?
Houston has waaaaay more black ppl living here than chicago does (1m houston vs 800k chitown)




>
>
>Please also explain what happen to the Irish, German and
>Italian mobs in america? Clearly these groups left the ghetto
>and clearly their collective 'gang' activity is close to
>zero.


are you serious???
the mob is STILL poppin and alive in America today
what you think "organized labor unions" are?
they've just found a way to be more corporate with it
nobody is shaking down your mom and pop corner store for $15 weekly payouts
these fools are hittin "economic development centers" for a cut of that gentrification money that's going on
for me to have to even explain that you is damning
every damn project that UPENN puts up in Philly or Colombia & NYU puts up in NYC has mob money associated with it
all that non-union labor that gets used
maaaaaan, you don't even know
Mob is fucking DEEP in boston
why you think the Big Dig took so damn long to complete?
please google: mafia parmalat
and do your research
shit is fucking deeeeep
who you think is fixing all those tennis and soccer matches around the world?
Vegas is STILL run (as it was built) on mob money



and you don't seem to understand how "crime" can evolve
how many niggas you see on the corner "curb serving" like they did in 88-92?
pretty much ZERO
but what do you have now???instead of nigags peddling nickel bags of weed
you have white boys on "fixies" doing deliveries like Pizza Hut with $2,000 worth of product in their "man purses"
every chick in the hood has a "weed man" that will deliver to her in 30 mins or less
no need for hittin the ave and coppin out in public
you can't see how this criminal act has "evolved"

selling pussy is no longer just street walkers in hunts point
hells no!!!
that's what backpage, craigslist and eros is for
only a fool would creep down some dark alley lookin for a "piece" these days
with all the selection online...

again, prostitution has evolved from simple mom&pop status to a national (and at times international) trade

chicks is gettign sent from houston to bahrain to get pissed and shitted on at $10k a whop

i could go on and on about different criminal elements that have been "modernized"

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imo
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31. "You're spitting mad and not comprehending"
In response to Reply # 23


  

          

You cannot say the mob exist and then say they are in the labor union where they get a pay check and pay taxes. You may be mad that they look out for each other but thats completely different and you would have to call damn near every industry a mob as "who you know" is still high on the list of reasons for getting a job in the first place. But no one is dying due to the labor unions. But the Irish and Italians do have them on lock. Where as when drugs and muscle were the way the MOB got money there were many deaths. But I think you made my point for me by bringing up the labor unions which blacks cant get in.

Please dont bring up immigrants who risk their lives to work ANY job in the US and live in hiding to make a better life for themselves. This is about equality and we worked those jobs for years but you should already know that.

But back to my question to you. Please let me know the genesis to the below statements you recklessly made. The way you presented these makes it seem as though there are no answers for blacks but there were answers for other groups who were in similar positions when jobs were not available. But I dont want to speak for you. But at least give a theory.

'Every nigga I know that sell dope or is a criminal WANTS to be a criminal"

"Most niggas I know that be in jail been bad since birth"







"hey, make this right mayne
stop at the light mayne,
my yester night thang got me hung off the night train "

  

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35. "I'm done. "
In response to Reply # 31


  

          

>You cannot say the mob exist and then say they are in the
>labor union where they get a pay check and pay taxes.

Do you not know how many drug dealers would KILL to spend 35% of their profits in order to clean their money up?
Legitimize it.

Are you really this green?

Let's say Obama signs a jobs initiative for $150Billion wo....
I'm on my phone and don't even feel like explaining it all out right now.

You need to learn how criminals, white collar criminals, operate.








You may
>be mad that they look out for each other but thats completely
>different and you would have to call damn near every industry
>a mob as "who you know" is still high on the list of reasons
>for getting a job in the first place. But no one is dying due
>to the labor unions. But the Irish and Italians do have them
>on lock. Where as when drugs and muscle were the way the MOB
>got money there were many deaths. But I think you made my
>point for me by bringing up the labor unions which blacks cant
>get in.
>
>Please dont bring up immigrants who risk their lives to work
>ANY job in the US and live in hiding to make a better life for
>themselves. This is about equality and we worked those jobs
>for years but you should already know that.
>
>But back to my question to you. Please let me know the genesis
>to the below statements you recklessly made. The way you
>presented these makes it seem as though there are no answers
>for blacks but there were answers for other groups who were in
>similar positions when jobs were not available. But I dont
>want to speak for you. But at least give a theory.
>
>'Every nigga I know that sell dope or is a criminal WANTS to
>be a criminal"
>
>"Most niggas I know that be in jail been bad since birth"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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murph71
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2. "RE: why so much violence in Chicago?"
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Tue Aug-30-16 08:08 AM by murph71

          

>is it really mostly gang-related?


Gangs (which by the way, the gangs on the Southside of Chi r no longer structured. There is no gang hierarchy...Literally just kids with guns)

Historically low lack of jobs in the community.....

Failing school system (obscene budget cuts...the demonizing of teachers....classroom over crowding....Kids being scared to go to another school after a school closes because it's in another gang territory. These kids don't have a chance....)

Chicago's legendary segregation (Goes hand in hand with a lack of jobs.). It became even more exacerbated when the city of Chicago tore down many of the projects on the South side, effectively pushing many who were trapped in years of systematic cycle of poverty, poor education and welfare culture to lower middle class black neighborhoods and to some of the suburbs....

Indiana's loose gun regulation (Chicago has very strict gun control laws. So the criminals and gang members have found a way to get around that. Just tip toe across state lines and buy guns....)

Decades of police corruption (Chicago makes New York's and LA's past police issues look like child play.....)

Add all of this together and you have a perfect storm of violence, joblessness and dysfunction on some of the city's South Side and West Side.....

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4. "thank you."
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9. "Re: gangs being unstructured"
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Isn't it more that kids are claiming and spinning off sects of gangs without any true direct-line affiliation with the major sets they are claiming? Like just declaring that you and your knucklehead friends are BD or GD or whatever is all it really takes now? Totally from an outsider and just reading all the reports of shootings and reported affiliations, but there's just no leadership or reason to how/why a lot of the retaliatory stuff is happening, from an old school gang perspective.

  

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11. "RE: Re: gangs being unstructured"
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>Isn't it more that kids are claiming and spinning off sects
>of gangs without any true direct-line affiliation with the
>major sets they are claiming? Like just declaring that you and
>your knucklehead friends are BD or GD or whatever is all it
>really takes now? Totally from an outsider and just reading
>all the reports of shootings and reported affiliations, but
>there's just no leadership or reason to how/why a lot of the
>retaliatory stuff is happening, from an old school gang
>perspective.


Yep....that's why I said theirs no hierarchy in today's gang structure....

Also, there are BD's going against BD's and GD's going against GD's....Gang violence now takes place in a 1 block radius....There are no lines....Just kids with guns....

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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19. "I don't understand..."
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>Indiana's loose gun regulation (Chicago has very strict gun
>control laws. So the criminals and gang members have found a
>way to get around that. Just tip toe across state lines and
>buy guns....)

So these criminal, convicts and 14 year old gang members are going to Indiana and LEGALLY buying guns because it's much easier there?
like, a 14 year old can go into WalMart or Academy and buy a $219 Ruger on sale like they can down here in Texas?

Additionally, if Indiana's guns laws are so lax and contributing to Chicago's violence problems, then why don't Indiana itself has high gun violence problem as Chiraq?

That's mind boggling.
Indiana has very lax gun laws but nowhere near the level of gun violence that chicago has.
Is it the water???

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21. "RE: I don't understand..."
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You should peep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCi66gpi6Tk

This isnt the end all be all but basically if there is even 1 state with a lax gun law then every state has a lax gun law.. Transporting is easy enough

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25. "So why don't the state with the lax gun law have high crime???"
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what yall are trying to say is what Indiana eats, Chicago shits.
Correct?

Look at the gun violence rates of the states with law gun laws like:
texas
arizona
alabama
louisiana
arkansas

how many weekends do these states have with 18 shot and 6 killed?
it's something else in chicago
something else




>You should peep
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCi66gpi6Tk
>
>This isnt the end all be all but basically if there is even 1
>state with a lax gun law then every state has a lax gun law..
>Transporting is easy enough

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30. "no shit"
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he gave a list of 5-6 factors why

one of them happened to be access to guns and you jumped on it cause you're a gun nut

  

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33. "lol I know"
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Chicago's bullshit gun laws have more to do with it than anything in Indiana

criminals don't follow gun laws, only one being hurt is upstanding citizens who want to protect their home/2nd amendment rights

you can see that anytime some nutso shoots up a school or shopping center in a "gun-free" zone, no fear of retribution

<-Fear Ameer

  

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36. "none of what you just typed is true at all"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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38. "yes it is"
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Chicago's gun control laws are part of the problem

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40. "these dingalings don't know shit and be spouting off at the mouth"
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how many "mass shootings" have occurred in places where ppl are HEAVILY strapped up?

fucking ZERO

all mass shootings happen where ppl are most vulnerable and NOT permitted to carry firearms

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44. "thank you for proving that you have no idea what you're talking about"
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cuz I could say that you're uninformed, incorrect and willingly obtuse.

but it's not nearly as useful as you actually making it clear with your own words.

I cannot express how deeply I appreciate your assistance in this endeavour.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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47. "ok"
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>cuz I could say that you're uninformed, incorrect and
>willingly obtuse.
>
>but it's not nearly as useful as you actually making it clear
>with your own words.
>
>I cannot express how deeply I appreciate your assistance in
>this endeavour.
>
>www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

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50. "lol Fort Hood? In Texas? "
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lol come on now, you gotta have a better argument then that. I mean there were !two! different shootings in gun loving military occupied Fort Hood.

  

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51. "facts don't matter"
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Tue Sep-06-16 12:31 AM by Rjcc

          

that the aurora theater shooter made incredibly detailed notes on his planning and why he chose one place over another and that nowhere in his plans did he factor whether or not a theater had a no gun policy doesn't matter.

school shootings are because they're gun free zones!

not because they're places where the shooters attended school or worked.

or that *most* places where there are lots of people have some restriction on whether or not you can carry guns.


but no, it's these mythical "heavily strapped up" places that prove what's safe, lol.




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43. "no, it isn't."
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46. "youre three word responses aint helping bruh"
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>www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

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3. "funny thing is, i would happily walk a few blocks in downtown Chi"
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...but I didn't even wanna leave Amtrak in Detroit to cross the street and grab some WC (which I hadn't been to in years)

I guess danger all depends of your perspective of the enviornment

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5. "RE: funny thing is, i would happily walk a few blocks in downtown Chi"
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U can walk throughout most of Chicago safely...Downtown....Some parts of the North Side....Even some parts of the South Side where much of the violence is taking place....

The violence though in certain South Side and West Side neighborhoods has become so over the top that it leads one to believe that the entire city of Chicago has gone to hell....



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8. "totally believe this"
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I've only been to Chicago a couple times, and never had a problem

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14. "A guy got domed in the lobby of a Hilton in the loop...."
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34. "Yes, it's not Caracas or San Pedro Sula"
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mostly concentrated in a few neighborhoods

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37. "Namely where Black people live en masse."
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>mostly concentrated in a few neighborhoods

Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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6. "Youngins got guns."
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7. "poor, unemployed, guns"
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

  

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10. "2pac explains it best -- "
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWyXPUshTqs

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12. "http://i.imgur.com/SS06uww.jpg"
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http://i.imgur.com/SS06uww.jpg

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13. "go to the source"
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I'de deign to say DVS could tell you a thing or three, but he dealin with a lot right now.

I was thinking about this last night. I'm sure the razing of Cabrini Greens Housing along with a lot of the other projects definitely contributed. I wouldn't doubt that everything happening on the street was happening JUST IN THOSE PROJECTS ALONE.

Gentrification, corruption, unemployment, little to no education infrastructure...

you know...same old same....

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15. "Because police want there to be violence there."
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They could stop it any time they wanted to.
By design.

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16. " All the gang leaders were arrested. Child soldiers are running the stre..."
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There are literally no OG's, so 15-year-olds are popping each other over Instagram beef. Also, police don't care, so street justice is the only justice you can get. Out of nearly 2000 non-fatal shootings in Chicago this year, only 73 arrests have been made. Imagine knowing that the dude who shot you is still out there, probably looking to finish the job. If you knew the justice system wouldn't protect you, you might seek to take matters in your own hands.

  

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22. "RE: why so much violence in Chicago?"
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Not any more...

this shit is facebook related... IG reated... it's that simple these days.. shit spills over from disrespect on social media all the time

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26. "Let's sue FB and IG then"
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>Not any more...
>
>this shit is facebook related... IG reated... it's that simple
>these days.. shit spills over from disrespect on social media
>all the time


Snapchat + lax guns laws = high gun violence/murder rates

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27. "RE: Let's sue FB and IG then"
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They would find a way.. I mean I think the public nature of it makes it the issue but end of the day they'd move to linkedin if need be

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28. "Let's make more strict gun laws for states surrounding Illinois"
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make it a two state buffer zone around Illinois to see if that lessens the amount of gun violence in Chitown
If not, then gun laws from other states are NOT the problem

The problem is in the homes
Teach your kids not to kill people and they won't kill people
It's that simple

Killing someone is not a innate trait anyways
Aint no other poor or disenfranchised groups in Chicago that are also killing each other at such high rates?
why black ppl only kill each other like crazy?

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29. "RE: Let's make more strict gun laws for states surrounding Illinois"
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>Killing someone is not a innate trait anyways

Yes it is.. We are humans we kill. We've always killed. We stop killing because "society" made an agreement that "killing is not good" for the group.

In these places that rule doesn't exist.. its simple

>Aint no other poor or disenfranchised groups in Chicago that
>are also killing each other at such high rates?
>why black ppl only kill each other like crazy?
>

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/05/18/us/chicago-murder-problem.html

They talk about it here. It's mostly correlation but lot of academic pursuit being put into this issue.

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32. "????"
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"Killing someone is not a innate trait anyways"

You just told me the below. You are all over the place.

"Most niggas I know that be in jail been bad since birth"

"hey, make this right mayne
stop at the light mayne,
my yester night thang got me hung off the night train "

  

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39. "stop replying to him, he's an idiot"
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42. "what a way to win an argument"
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just because someone doesn't see your point of view then they are an idiot????

i live in a state where we FREELY walk around with guns on our hips and nobody is shooting shit up
it's something else going on in chicago and gun laws don't have shit to do with it

remove all the guns and niggas will be getting stabbed to death

remove all the guns and knives and they'll be getting strangled to death

thus, there is something else there

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45. "no, you just let them say things that are demonstrably false"
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thereby proving they don't know what they're talking about.

I'm sure people treat you like that all the time.

you think you've won the argument, which is better for everyone.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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48. "so it's true indiana's gun laws are the cause of chicago's violence"
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but indiana don't have nowere near the level of violence chicago has???

i eat alll the food but your ass gets fat off the calories EYE eat.
ok, got it.

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49. "keep talking"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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56. "Lol no one said that shit. You cherrypicked it out of murph's post"
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no one said 'indiana's gun laws are 'the cause'. Murph listed it as a factor, along with 6 other things that you ignored so you could play strawman.

  

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41. "being bad != killing someone"
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>"Killing someone is not a innate trait anyways"
>
>You just told me the below. You are all over the place.
>
>"Most niggas I know that be in jail been bad since birth"



being bad = stealing shit, fighting, lieing, graffitti, breaking windows

not fucking raping or killing ppl

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52. "jesus christ dude"
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24. "DRILL MUSIC and HIGH FAT DIET"
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Makes em cray. Look at, Yeezy.

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53. "It's really sad that so many people don't value humanity"
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A gun is a tool created and used to kill. That's literally it's designed purpose. Anything else is recreational. Having more of them on the street doesn't minimize killing. It makes everyone a threat to shoot everyone.

In the end, it's a grip of socio-economic, mental/emotional, political, educational and yes, racial factors that play into the diminishing of ANY sect of society.

You're poor and your family has always been poor. Your family has always been poor because your ancestors never had (nor saw the necessity in) more education (maybe they just had to work hard labor to take care of their family). This is coupled with generations of systematic racism designed around keeping you where you are; poor and less educated than the perpetrators so any educational resources you might have access to don't compete on a professional level. You live in a neighborhood with like-minded alikes who share a similar history. And rather than starve, some seek to take survival necessities by any means necessary, which exposes you to high amounts of criminal activity, including death and the illegal sale of consumable escapism...drugs.

It makes for a childhood of high stress and depression. Now people in your neighborhood are going to jail en mass, because the systematic racism loves to overtly criminalize any like-skinned males in your community yet doesn't seek to invest resources to curb the root problems. Because prison building is a business. This further decomposes your community as now male leaders are absentee.

So you have two options, wait to become a victim because you have no idea how to escape this cycle or grab a gun and become part of the problem.

We've failed in this country. We've lost our sense of humanity in exchange for narcissistic entitlement.

People will utter in the same breath that 'Our country is great' but 'Blacks need to fix their communities'. As if black people had any hand in designing the system.

Without doing any statistical research, I can guarantee, within a 5% margin of error that 98% of cities/villages/suburbs with majority black people has a serious deficit in:

A) Jobs
B) Public resources
C) Educational competitiveness

vs similar communities of other predominant races (namely: white and/or asian)

^^^That's not a Black Community problem. That's an AMERICAN problem fueled by racism and bigotry.

So in my opinion, relaxing gun laws won't fix this (and I'm ok with relaxed gun laws...with a rational process for attaining them). What's a gun to a kid who doesn't care about his own life, let alone yours?

People will still get shot. These kids know going in that if they shoot someone, it might and likely will come back on them in the form of violent retaliation. I don't think they are gonna fear grannies with glocks.

We need to solve the problems, not the symptoms.

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54. "HELLO."
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fuck you.

  

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55. "there it is:"
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https://m.popkey.co/9f6213/7MKka.gif

  

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57. "RE: It's really sad that so many people don't value humanity"
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Its actually deeper than that especially in Chicago...

but thats a start

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58. "I feel like Obama should lead a Manhattan Project like effort to cure it"
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post office.

Like if all the resources the president could draw to the problem were deployed, could it solve the problem.

If Corey Booker could get 100M for Newar, I think Obama could pull a cool Billy to fix the problem.

That would be an awesome post white house legacy.

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59. "My LS's father was shot & killed in Chicago"
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when she was a baby...

she started a foundation today for young black boys in chicago in honor of her father

check out the video announcement:

https://www.facebook.com/TenishaAidansMomBell/videos/10155219946748047/

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it's doing something arduous and
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