I knew he would come back for us!

http://www.boysdontcry.co/

Coming this month!

Hope he does....

but LOL at the only two entries being a year apart

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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/02/arts/music/frank-ocean-boys-dont-cry-apple-release-date.html

I'll believe it when I effing hear it. Ha.

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It wasn't a horrible album but it was definitely a letdown from "Nostalgia Ultra" which was a much better listen, IMO. I don't care if it falls into that mixtape category. It was just flat out better than "Channel Orange."

Particularly Novacine. Only thing that impressed me about that 'mixtape' is how fully formed+self assured it was for a dude that came basically out of nowhere...it's a well put together album.

Just a boring one.

One of my favorite things about "Nostalgia Ultra" was the songwriting. Just about every song had a theme or a focus and didn't deviate from it. There weren't any generic, stereotypical R&B songs on it.

and I feel the same way about CO. 3 or 4 good cuts but half the album felt like the songs weren't really finished.

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It was flames and critically acclaimed. Only flaw is that the motherfucker was long as shit and could have been cut, but you had 10 classics on that joint easy.

the gay hype was real, it worked and he delivered a decent album but 10 classics?

there were like 4 really good songs...

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01 Start
02 Thinkin Bout You -Classic
03 Fertilizer
04 Sierra Leone -Classic
05 Sweet Life
06 Not Just Money
07 Super Rich Kids (f. Earl Sweatshirt)
08 Pilot Jones
09 Crack Rock - Classic
10 Pyramids - Classic
11 Lost - Classic
12 White (f. John Mayer)
13 Monks
14 Bad Religion - Classic
15 Pink Matter (f. André 3000) - Classic
16 Forrest Gump - Classic
17 End

It's not like he was the first gay R&B dude to have a big album (RIP LUTHER) but to act like that shit wasn't played everywhere/critically acclaimed is revisionist.

>01 Start
>02 Thinkin Bout You -Classic
>03 Fertilizer
>04 Sierra Leone - no
>05 Sweet Life
>06 Not Just Money
>07 Super Rich Kids (f. Earl Sweatshirt)
>08 Pilot Jones
>09 Crack Rock - no.. good but not classic
>10 Pyramids - no.. good but not classic
>11 Lost - Classic - my shit... shoulda had a dope vid for this
>12 White (f. John Mayer)
>13 Monks
>14 Bad Religion - Classic
>15 Pink Matter (f. André 3000) - hell no
>16 Forrest Gump - hell no
>17 End
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>It's not like he was the first gay R&B dude to have a big
>album (RIP LUTHER) but to act like that shit wasn't played
>everywhere/critically acclaimed is revisionist.
>

He was the first to openly come out right before his debut album dropped and a lot of the hype was due to this admission
>

it was a decent album but it wasnt classic shit.

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Possibly the most epic song in modern R&B, in the true sense of the word.

In time, it will be classic.

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and as far as modern r&b, top 10 of the last 5 years. A lot of folks would argue top 3 or even #1.


Which reminds me I've been meaning to make a Channel Orange vs. Malibu or a Channel Orange vs. Ology post.

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I WILL NOT TAKE BACK RICH KIDS. I love Earl Sweatshirt but he kinda hurt that song.

even if i think classic might be stretching it

Too much of that album was good to great for anyone to be grading it under B

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when I see it.....






which is the same treatment my family and friends give me whenever my art comes up.

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that was normal when we was growing up

He knows people are way too thirsty for this album. Everything from the library card, the status updates, and the livestream just comes off weird.

Also, I really hate how all of the artists with relatively less talent and potential can seemingly drop projects at will while musicians who are bonafide great at what they do take forever. I wonder how different the landscape of black music would be if D'Angelo, Maxwell, and Lauryn had more albums to their credit. How would southern rap be if Andre actually dropped an official solo album. I feel like a lot of artists who had something important to say just stopped saying those things through their music. And now all we have is a bunch of trash with some decent stuff sporadically scattered within it all.

but once you reach icon levels (and Ocean aint there yet) AND most of these artist had superteams around them the first time they dropped gems.

following up a classic with another gem is hard as shit...

i think these artist are too scared to lose that cred they built up over the years by dropping subpar shit.

i really wish these fools would drop singles tho... instead of instagram messages and twitter hints.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell_(musician)#Discography

pretty consistent.

cookin'.

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Not at all..

people have been waiting for the album for 3/4 years... they are gonna cop. The think pieces will pop up before the whole thing is downloaded

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and fans are funny, what was hot 4 years ago can easily slup under the radar. Fans also mature and move on to other things.

i dont know if he is D'Angelo, Maxwell status where fans have been waiting for it like those other artist.

i might be wrong tho...

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"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."

cant get it anywhere else so itunes sales should be off the charts.

help me out if I'm wrong

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so it can't be number one there. They're different platforms. Itunes is sales, Apple Music is streaming.

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"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."

I opened itunes a while back and was totally confused by the new set up.

that shit sounds like a bad idea on apples part

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Not sure if "Endless" is the album actually.. Guess we'll see

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There is no other Frank Ocean... he doesn't have a bootleg/alt version that has filled in the space... people are waiting it has become a "thing" to say you are waiting and people will cop..

It will be one of the bigger musical moments of the year and people will want to be involved...

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/entertainthis/2016/08/01/frank-ocean-boys-dont-cry-live-stream-video/87906842/

http://time.com/4432730/frank-ocean-new-album-boys-dont-cry/

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/02/arts/music/frank-ocean-boys-dont-cry-apple-release-date.html?_r=0

The first couple of days its going to be a frenzy for everyone just wanting to be first. If it's got honest to good singles also, he might own the end of the summer.

Dude told me sooooo much about him, and why it was such a huge delay with this album. Shit like how Frank's own dad sued him...all type of family and business issues beyond the music itself.

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And/or any info on what happened to OF in general??

Happy 50th D’Angelo: https://chrisp.bandcamp.com/track/d-50

Tyler switched up and probably felt he did enough for everyone else, not wanting to deal with freeloaders

Hodgy Beats went off about it on stage at the OF carnival last year then they had a fake reconciliation to do damage control a few days later, that bridge is burned forever

Domo Genesis dropped a good album this year

Earl will eat forever because he has a loyal fan base

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He was in town on some FEMA business, had a random convo about floods and Frank...

I can believe he sued him lol.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/the-juice/6251468/frank-oceans-dad-sues-russell-simmons-for-142-million-report

Frank Ocean's father is suing hip-hop mogul Russell Simmons for calling him a deadbeat dad, requesting $142 million in damages.

Ocean's dad, Calvin Cooksey, has been absent from his son's life since the R&B crooner was five years old, TMZ reports, and now he's claiming Simmons unfairly portrayed him as a bad dad on his website Global Grind.

Cooksey's libel claim, he says, will cause a loss of future income for the self-described singer, writer and inventor. As well, he has taken offense that Simmons' website did not use his actual name.

Cooksey blames Ocean's mother for his absence, calling her "money grubbing" and saying he wasn't allowed to be a father to his son.

In December 2012, Ocean tweeted his father wanted to sue him for $1 million. In a post, later deleted, he wrote, "Father wanna sue me for a million. Like I owe him back child support. Weak individual bought me a swiss knife at 6yrs old then dipped on me."

As of publishing, representatives for Simmons and Ocean had not responded to requests for comment.

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> As
>well, he has taken offense that Simmons' website did not use
>his actual name.

What a piece of shit human being.

Why sue and make yourself known? NO ONE knew who he was and Frank hasn't seen him in years.

Complete douche.

...and I guess it was his stepfather then because dude name definitely wasn't Calvin.

Sucks to see that pettiness.

I got the same info from Bossip.

Something tells me he doesn't mess with too much family outside of his mom and sister.

But he talked for a good 30 min about things in depth, definitely nothing from the blog sites. His name is Sylvester, he's a singer and writer as well

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*sheesh*

just wasn't feeling more than 3-4 songs. I've gone back to it a few times in case I missed something, but it never worked for me.

not really waiting on this next joint either.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

I disagree with the 8-11 good tracks assessment. I would also say there were about 4 that I really liked so it gets a C+ from me.

I will give him another chance though. I'll check for this new album when it drops.

Thinkin Bout You
Pyramids
Lost
Bad Religion

There are other songs that I think are OK. But to me, these 4 are the standout tracks.

but overall I DID NOT LIKE Nostalgia ULTRA and was lukewarm on Orange.

the songs of his I love I really, really love, but most of it just doesn't hit for me. Strong melodically but just annoying word choice or repetitive songwriting.

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I cant believe folks are pushing the 'gay agenda' bullshit. I can understand if youre not feeling it or think it was overhyped, but damn. Album coulda been trimmed but the money songs are EPIC. In fact, I'm almost afraid the new album is gonna let me down. I'd rather it not come out then it be mediocre. I am that invested and i feel idiotic for that lol.

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So a few voices are able to seem louder than they would have before.
Channel Orange is not polarizing like that and wasn't when it came out here either.

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"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."

wasnt a marketing ploy.

not saying it was the only reason or biggest but it definitely was timed to help hype up the release.

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the album still gets as much praise as it did initially

not to mention...that may have helped pull in part of his audience but it also preemptively pushed certain audiences further away

it may have been mostly marketing but even so...people still love that album and i don't think its done much for its lasting impression

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I'm not sure what it has to do with my original statement about using it for marketing purposes...

its a good album but IMO that shit is no where close to a classic.

critically acclaimed is a better description.

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Thinkin' About You and Pyramids are stellar songs, Sweet Life and Forrest Gump stuck with my cultural memory of the album...but the rest of it always felt a little half-baked to me. I was never enamored with Frank's songwriting style, though, most of his songs rub me that way. Aside from the money cuts Frank songs often give me the feeling of looking at a photograph that was intentionally taken while the camera was moving just a little bit. He doesn't have that 'effortless' feeling to me, but the sense of 'effort' I get from him isn't all that appetizing either.

(Scanning the album as I wrote this, I also recall digging Crack Rock a lot.)

I'll be happy to hear this album but I was right in the middle of my music critic side gig and I felt a little baffled by how universal the praise for Channel Orange was from all my peers. It was one of the only albums where I felt the consensus opinion on an album was a little overwhelming and undue; reading the think pieces now, I still find it VERY odd how many people find him to be some kind of luminary voice in R&B. He has a unique voice and in that genre that definitely counts for something but The Weeknd's first and third mixtapes were better full projects. In 2012 alone I preferred Jeremih's Late Nights mixtape that year, it didn't have a tentpole, decade-defining song like "Pyramids" but I felt it was more thorough front to back.


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smh... I like the song and all but decade defining? Classic?

yall niggas really trying to take it there?

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you got 100 songs right now that you're putting on that list before you do Pyramids? I don't. granted there's a whole back third of the decade left to go but I'm pretty confident that song remains in that conversation.


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