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" 50 killed, 53 injured in Orlando nightclub shooting (link)"
Sun Jun-12-16 07:10 PM by CyrenYoung

          

smh

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/06/13/us/orlando-nightclub-shooting.html?_r=0&referer=

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Jesus... RIP :/
Jun 12th 2016
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Florida is off the hook this weekend
Jun 12th 2016
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Watching on the news now...this is crazy...
Jun 12th 2016
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apparently there were shots exchanged with a guard
Jun 12th 2016
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:(
Jun 12th 2016
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now 50 dead, 53 injured. i saw a 9 sec video w/ 25 gunshots heard.
Jun 12th 2016
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50 dead jesus fucking christ
Jun 12th 2016
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what fkng tragedy...RIP to the dead.....now cant wait to hear #FDT
Jun 12th 2016
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Awful.
Jun 12th 2016
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heres to hoping the shooter aint a poc....
Jun 12th 2016
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      The guy is confirmed of Afghani descent...so he is a POC
Jun 12th 2016
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50 people? And the guy may possibly be muslim.
Jun 12th 2016
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Man thats beyond a hate crime. This a terrorist attack basically
Jun 12th 2016
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      I think it can be both.
Jun 12th 2016
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           Too bad Hillary and Bernie would rather throw the victims under
Jun 13th 2016
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                ???
Jun 13th 2016
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Omar Saddiqui Mateen
Jun 12th 2016
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Trump about to ride that wave like a mutha
Jun 12th 2016
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while many of his followers silently celebrate
Jun 12th 2016
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My first thought. nm
Jun 12th 2016
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yeah someone else said he's about to pander to the LGBT community
Jun 12th 2016
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No
Jun 12th 2016
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he doesnt (seem) to support gun control though
Jun 12th 2016
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worst mass shooting in U.S. history?! wow
Jun 12th 2016
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Summer isn't over yet.
Jun 12th 2016
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maybe a little gun control america?
Jun 12th 2016
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unless you mean "get rid of all guns"
Jun 12th 2016
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He was a 2nd generation US citizen born to immigrant parents.
Jun 12th 2016
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      i dont think immigration status has much to do with it
Jun 12th 2016
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Because terrorists wouldn't use bombs instead?
Jun 12th 2016
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and i believe less than 5% of their economy was involved
Jun 12th 2016
75
Australia doesn't have America's demographics, though.
Jun 12th 2016
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piling on: politicians who attack LGBTQ rights and promote guns...
Jun 12th 2016
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TEXAS Lt. Governor Dan Patrick- You Reap what you Sow ..0_0
Jun 12th 2016
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fuck.
Jun 12th 2016
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seriously, man...why trip over something that doesn't affect you?
Jun 12th 2016
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      i bet money the shooter prolly had that itch..
Jun 12th 2016
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RE: TEXAS Lt. Governor Dan Patrick- You Reap what you Sow ..0_0
Jun 12th 2016
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Judge not, that ye be not judged. we all tend to forget that one
Jun 12th 2016
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RE: piling on: politicians who attack LGBTQ rights and promote guns...
Jun 12th 2016
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      Dude is pandering to his base.
Jun 12th 2016
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           RE: Dude is pandering to his base.
Jun 12th 2016
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           Nah it's not that, dude took an L
Jun 12th 2016
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Can we stop ranking these things like they are Tetris high scores?
Jun 12th 2016
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these shootings startin to look like setups man
Jun 12th 2016
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Trump just won the election
Jun 12th 2016
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smh they really tryna spin da shit too
Jun 12th 2016
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RE: Trump just won the election
Jun 12th 2016
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what a fkng cowardice statement...exactly how did he just win?
Jun 12th 2016
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      they hate gays but they want their votes
Jun 12th 2016
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      so?? most people of color are dems...try again #FDT
Jun 12th 2016
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      I work full time customer service
Jun 12th 2016
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           RE: I work full time customer service
Jun 12th 2016
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           Thank you!! i respect my man atruhead opinion but nah
Jun 12th 2016
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           The LGBT community has been oppressed for a long time
Jun 12th 2016
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i like to get high, too, but maybe take a break for like a week
Jun 12th 2016
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Father of the shooter.....
Jun 12th 2016
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trump prolly paid this muhfucka to do dis evil shit
Jun 12th 2016
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      RE: trump prolly paid this muhfucka to do dis evil shit
Jun 12th 2016
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      LOL
Jun 12th 2016
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an AR-15. yeah.
Jun 12th 2016
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RE: an AR-15. yeah.
Jun 12th 2016
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why do people pretend like the original ban did anything at all?
Jun 12th 2016
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It's so wild to watch.....
Jun 12th 2016
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they're saying dude called 911 and pledged his allegiance to ISIS leader
Jun 12th 2016
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RE: they're saying dude called 911 and pledged his allegiance to ISIS le...
Jun 12th 2016
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FL Democrat Senator says shooter connected to ISIS
Jun 12th 2016
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RE: FL Democrat Senator say shooter connected to ISIS
Jun 12th 2016
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Anti-Gay copycats popping off...
Jun 12th 2016
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here's the article with info for folk in LA
Jun 12th 2016
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      From Indiana. like that mexican judge. Trump wheels spinning
Jun 12th 2016
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its gonna be a looong summer.
Jun 12th 2016
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Hot too.
Jun 12th 2016
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Trump already going in (LINK)
Jun 12th 2016
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RE: Trump already going in (LINK)
Jun 12th 2016
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well, this is going to expose a lot
Jun 12th 2016
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No, you read wrong.
Jun 12th 2016
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9/11, OKC, etc..
Jun 12th 2016
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      yeah, you're right...mass shooting
Jun 12th 2016
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Trump's reacton to 50 dead? The humble brag of course
Jun 12th 2016
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what type of person pats themselves on the back for...
Jun 12th 2016
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He advocates big government intrusion and fear mongering...
Jun 12th 2016
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Trump advocates Trump
Jun 12th 2016
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Also, what exactly was he even "right" about?
Jun 13th 2016
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I think my neighbor was shot or injured there last nite
Jun 12th 2016
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i hope she's alright.
Jun 12th 2016
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up to 59 dead now :(
Jun 13th 2016
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:-( :-( :-(
Jun 13th 2016
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saddened and pessimistic.
Jun 13th 2016
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you're right to feel that way, there will be zero change as a result of ...
Jun 13th 2016
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yeah if a school full of white children getting shot does nothing
Jun 13th 2016
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Gofundme link.
Jun 13th 2016
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also terrifying is possible retaliation. lgbts r bullied upon conception...
Jun 13th 2016
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my coworker is mad at Obama for blaming gun culture
Jun 13th 2016
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People can blame this or that, but the core issue is one thing
Jun 13th 2016
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I don't know. I blame the fact some people are crazy. And the fact
Jun 13th 2016
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      aand elliot rodger...
Jun 13th 2016
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      "they wanna take away our guns"
Jun 13th 2016
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      This!
Jun 14th 2016
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Australia data shows gun controls a huge success 20 years after mass sho...
Jun 13th 2016
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they also have stricter immigration laws
Jun 13th 2016
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Look at the real numbers though. It's not comparable.
Jun 13th 2016
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their situation basically impossible to reproduce here
Jun 14th 2016
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re: prayer to end things like this
Jun 13th 2016
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Then God either doesn't exist, is powerless, or doesn't care
Jun 13th 2016
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prayer is a personal thing IMO
Jun 13th 2016
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How do we feel about multiple gunmen theories?
Jun 13th 2016
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with the amount of people, i wouldn't be surprised
Jun 13th 2016
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A fully auto AR15 shoots 800 per minutes. 180 per minute with semi.
Jun 13th 2016
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      RE: A fully auto AR15 shoots 800 per minutes. 180 per minute with semi.
Jun 13th 2016
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      We *could* change the laws
Jun 13th 2016
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      I'm not saying it's not possible
Jun 13th 2016
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they're already calling it a hoax too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0...
Jun 13th 2016
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People who believe in crisis actors should be catapulted into the ocean
Jun 13th 2016
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I think they're ridiculous...
Jun 13th 2016
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MEDIA BLACKOUT
Jun 13th 2016
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It's not a gay/straight thing, not a religion thing. It's not a gun thin...
Jun 13th 2016
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maybe a mentally ill homophobic person on the FBI terrorist watchlist
Jun 13th 2016
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Is the US the only place with major mental health issues?
Jun 13th 2016
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      exactly... its definitely an American problem.
Jun 13th 2016
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      besides the middle east..yeah
Jun 13th 2016
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           LOL
Jun 13th 2016
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Update: The shooter was regular at the Club! <;Swipe>
Jun 13th 2016
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yup, this is why I say he needed therapy
Jun 13th 2016
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*waits for legitimate source*
Jun 13th 2016
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One source has met with the FBI about the gay dating app,
Jun 13th 2016
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Not surprised at all...
Jun 13th 2016
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of course.
Jun 13th 2016
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So not only was he a regular at the pulse but gay bars all over
Jun 14th 2016
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So the shooter allegedly told the victims he had no problem with blacks?
Jun 14th 2016
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But some of the victims were black, that makes no sense to me.
Jun 14th 2016
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      I agree, but if dude just went in blasting he's gonna hit everyone.
Jun 14th 2016
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So his wife knew about his plans and tried to talk him out of it....
Jun 14th 2016
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mtbatol
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1. "Jesus... RIP :/"
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I hate I'm becoming less & less shocked with these tragedies. Wait wasn't that 22 y.o. singer also killed in Orlando? Wasn't even 24 hours between the shootings.

  

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2. "Florida is off the hook this weekend"
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3. "Watching on the news now...this is crazy..."
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Let me give the pro-gun stance...

"If there had been a responsible gun owner on site, none of this would have happened"


RIIIIIIIGHT...

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19. "apparently there were shots exchanged with a guard"
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who was an off-duty cop.
i was amazed to learn years after columbine there actually were armed security at the school who also exchanged fire with the two shooters.

  

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4. ":("
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5. "now 50 dead, 53 injured. i saw a 9 sec video w/ 25 gunshots heard."
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we need assault rifles for sport and hunting tho. :-/

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6. "50 dead jesus fucking christ"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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7. "what fkng tragedy...RIP to the dead.....now cant wait to hear #FDT"
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put his foot in his mouth with something stupid

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8. "Awful. "
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Google search says it's a gay nightclub -- hate crime?

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9. "heres to hoping the shooter aint a poc...."
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we havent confirmed anything regarding the shooter yet have we?

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11. "The guy is confirmed of Afghani descent...so he is a POC"
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10. "50 people? And the guy may possibly be muslim."
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I hear a shitstorm coming...and the victims are part of the LGBTQ community.

Just awful and a clear hate crime.

  

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15. "Man thats beyond a hate crime. This a terrorist attack basically "
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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17. "I think it can be both. "
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I can see Trump using this for his advantage. Disgusting. Just revolting...so much hate

  

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88. "Too bad Hillary and Bernie would rather throw the victims under"
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the bus so they don't get labelled racist by the Arabs/Muslims.

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12. "Omar Saddiqui Mateen"
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Ah here it goes...

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13. "Trump about to ride that wave like a mutha"
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18. "while many of his followers silently celebrate "
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It's a win win for right wingers, they can vilify Islam & at the same damn time secretly be happy at all the dead sodomites

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21. "My first thought. nm"
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30. "yeah someone else said he's about to pander to the LGBT community"
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this event could shift the whole election

  

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>this event could shift the whole election

  

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51. "he doesnt (seem) to support gun control though"
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so maybe this incident won't be such a bonus for him

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14. "worst mass shooting in U.S. history?! wow "
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16. "Summer isn't over yet."
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Everything looks like Oprah kissing Harvey Weinstein these days

  

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20. "maybe a little gun control america?"
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don't tell me australia is smarter than us. thats insulting.

  

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66. "unless you mean "get rid of all guns""
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talking about gun control at this point is ridiculous and you should just take a step back and chill


we dont know how this dude got his guns, what his legal status was or anything


  

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81. "He was a 2nd generation US citizen born to immigrant parents."
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Link: https://www.yahoo.com/news/orlando-fla-ap-gunman-wielding-000000701.html

Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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83. "i dont think immigration status has much to do with it"
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but please lets drop the knee jerk gun control reaction after a tragedy like this unless it comes out there was some flaw in the system that allowed someone to buy guns they shouldnt

if there were some kind of oversight to our "Terror watch list" i would be all about restricting people on that list when it comes to buying weapons but thats an entirely different discussion


we certainly arent getting rid of guns a la australia and honestly i dont see anything happening as far as restricting your average law abiding citizen from buying rifles

  

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72. "Because terrorists wouldn't use bombs instead? "
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Australia has a far stricter immigration policy and a largely homogenous society at 92% white.

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75. "and i believe less than 5% of their economy was involved"
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in arms manufacturing

  

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82. "Australia doesn't have America's demographics, though."
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And that's considering they live across the sea from the largest Muslim country on Earth that is Indonesia.

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22. "piling on: politicians who attack LGBTQ rights and promote guns..."
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tweeting out their condolences.

smh.

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23. "TEXAS Lt. Governor Dan Patrick- You Reap what you Sow ..0_0"
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http://www.chron.com/news/article/Texas-Lt-Governor-Dan-Patrick-tweets-reap-what-8076147.php?cmpid=twitter-mobile


Hours after approximately 50 people were killed at a Florida LGBT nightclub in what federal officials are investigating as an act of terrorism, the lieutenant governor of Texas is receiving backlash for tweeting a verse from the Bible.

At precisely 7 a.m. Sunday Dan Patrick tweeted a photo with the words of Galatians . The verse reads, "Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows."


The Twitterverse circled the tweet, commenting that it was inappropriate and insensitive considering the context of the day's events.


"Tweeted as new breaks of mass casualties at a gay nightclub. Vile," one Twitter user said. "Have you no shame?"

Another verse was tweeted from the account 30 minutes later, this time from Psalm 37:39, which reads, "The Salvation of the righteous come from the Lord; He is their stronghold in time of trouble."

A Houston Chronicle request for comment was not immediately returned Sunday morning.

Orlando Police Chief John Mina says authorities have not determined an exact number of people killed, but that "approximately 50" have died.

Florida Department of Law Enforcement Special Agent in Charge Danny Banks says the mass shooting is being investigated as an act of terrorism. He says authorities are looking into whether this was an act of domestic or international terror, and if the shooter was a lone wolf.

Mina says the shooter was armed with an assault-type rifle, a handgun and some type of suspicious device. Police had said previously on Twitter that there was a "controlled explosion" at the scene of the shooting at Pulse Orlando. Mina says that noise was caused by a device intended to distract the shooter.

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i'll never understand one human hating another human's existence simply for living their truth and being who they are.

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31. "seriously, man...why trip over something that doesn't affect you? "
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44. "i bet money the shooter prolly had that itch.."
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27. "RE: TEXAS Lt. Governor Dan Patrick- You Reap what you Sow ..0_0"
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Sickening......

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73. "Judge not, that ye be not judged. we all tend to forget that one"
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24. "RE: piling on: politicians who attack LGBTQ rights and promote guns..."
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>tweeting out their condolences.
>
>smh.



This...Fucking hypocrites....

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26. "Dude is pandering to his base."
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This is similar to all politicians exploiting religion to gain votes. I just hope this is not the beginning of "christians" attacking the LGBTQIA community during this tragedic time and labeling any negative feedback as attack on their "religious freedom"

  

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35. "RE: Dude is pandering to his base."
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>This is similar to all politicians exploiting religion to
>gain votes. I just hope this is not the beginning of
>"christians" attacking the LGBTQIA community during this
>tragedic time and labeling any negative feedback as attack on
>their "religious freedom"


It seems to be backfiring....There are now some staunch right-wing politicians calling for dude to resign....He took the message off his Facebook. He's catching hell....Good...

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46. "Nah it's not that, dude took an L"
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There are only a small number of people actually partying off this and they are already deep in the GOP's pocket. Dumb move on his part, in addition to be heinous and inhumane, of course

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28. "Can we stop ranking these things like they are Tetris high scores?"
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The news keeps putting this on top of top 10 lists like it's an accomplishment

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29. "these shootings startin to look like setups man"
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all of a sudden bloodbaths start poppin off in Orlando Fl one weekend?

a REALITY SHOW contestant gets assassinated?

a muhfucka drove to Orlando for gay folks? not miami or fort lauderdale or some shit?

both muhfuckas die after shootin so no trials?


and what does da muhfucka bein a registered dem gotta do wit anything?



http://heavy.com/news/2016/06/omar-mateen-pulse-orlando-florida-shooting-gunman-attack-name-photos-facebook-motive-terrorism/

  

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32. "Trump just won the election"
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>and what does da muhfucka bein a registered dem gotta do wit
>anything?

  

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34. "smh they really tryna spin da shit too"
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Halo One ‏@HaloOneForTrump 2h2 hours ago
Omar Mateen a REGISTERED DEMOCRAT? #LGBT community should seriously re-think political allegiances! @realDonaldTrump



this election gettin a lil too fuckin grimey for me yo

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36. "RE: Trump just won the election"
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Nah....Not even....

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37. "what a fkng cowardice statement...exactly how did he just win?"
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the GOP hates gays.....youre smarter than this...

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39. "they hate gays but they want their votes"
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its fucked up but


trump is fucked up enough to try and spin shit like dat

i mean look

Halo One ‏@HaloOneForTrump 2h2 hours ago
Omar Mateen a REGISTERED DEMOCRAT? #LGBT community should seriously re-think political allegiances! @realDonaldTrump

  

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40. "so?? most people of color are dems...try again #FDT"
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nobody falling for that when we all know the GOP history with the LGBT community..

oh he also has a relationship with the NYPD...so

https://twitter.com/tariqnasheed/status/742019656534233088

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42. "I work full time customer service"
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until this job I underestimated exactly how stupid and uneducated Americans are

all it will take is Trump riding hard on the idea that this guy was a Democrat (and a Muslim) to get enough stupid and uneducated people to the polls voting for him

I'd like to hope that isnt the case, but I already know better

edit to add: Im not talking about just the LGBT community. I mean anyone who was undecided that could be easily swayed, if they hear "A Democrat was responsible for the shooting", they aren't voting Hillary

  

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43. "RE: I work full time customer service"
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>until this job I underestimated exactly how stupid and
>uneducated Americans are

U speak the truth..

>all it will take is Trump riding hard on the idea that this
>guy was a Democrat (and a Muslim) to get enough stupid and
>uneducated people to the polls voting for him

The victims of the horrific terrorist act, however, were targeted because they were part of the LGBT community....So it's going to be hard for Trump and crew to spin this...

Right now, LGBT issues such as the anti-transgendered bathroom state rulings popping up nation wide have become the rallying cause for the Right. So I don't see Trump and the GOP getting much traction off of this considering they are generally against the victims of this jaw-dropping shooting rampage/hate crime....

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50. "Thank you!! i respect my man atruhead opinion but nah "
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not happenin...this was the wrong community to try to spin to..



>>until this job I underestimated exactly how stupid and
>>uneducated Americans are
>
>U speak the truth..
>
>>all it will take is Trump riding hard on the idea that this
>>guy was a Democrat (and a Muslim) to get enough stupid and
>>uneducated people to the polls voting for him
>
>The victims of the horrific terrorist act, however, were
>targeted because they were part of the LGBT community....So
>it's going to be hard for Trump and crew to spin this...
>
>Right now, LGBT issues such as the anti-transgendered bathroom
>state rulings popping up nation wide have become the rallying
>cause for the Right. So I don't see Trump and the GOP getting
>much traction off of this considering they are generally
>against the victims of this jaw-dropping shooting rampage/hate
>crime....
>
>

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68. "The LGBT community has been oppressed for a long time"
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They are already #WOKE to the horseshit that goes on in this country. I highly doubt you are gonna convince 15% of them that the people responsible for protesting their parades, committing violence against them and denying them state rights is suddenly on their side.

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47. "i like to get high, too, but maybe take a break for like a week"
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33. "Father of the shooter....."
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...is now saying that the sickening mass shooting may have been sparked two months ago. This evil bastard reportedly was visiting Miami with his son and family. And he saw two men kissing and told his father that he was beyond angered that they were doing this in front of his son....

I know Trump and the Right are itching to make this out to be a straight up Islamic terrorist shooting...But the more news that tumbles out this all sounds like domestic terrorism fueled by an extreme anti-LGBT obsession...

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38. "trump prolly paid this muhfucka to do dis evil shit"
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i got no doubts he got all kinda goon connects along da FL coast

they for real already on some fucked up panderin shit talkin bout

HE WAS A DEMOCRAT!

HE WAS MUSLIM!

GAYS YOU SHOULD VOTE REPUBLICAN!




  

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41. "RE: trump prolly paid this muhfucka to do dis evil shit"
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It's hard for Trump and crew to benefit off of this when it looks like dude was self-radicalized AND targeting a segment of folks that most of the GOP hates with a passion....

If the gunman attacked a club where Federal workers or "straight" Americans were partying, celebrating, then this could be a layup for Trump....

But as of now, this shit is looking more and more like a hate crime wrapped in extreme ideology....

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80. "LOL"
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Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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45. "an AR-15. yeah."
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the new assault weapons ban bill failed in the senate in 2013. we'll see what they do.

  

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48. "RE: an AR-15. yeah."
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sees it^^^^^

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49. "why do people pretend like the original ban did anything at all?"
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all the existing assault weapons were grandfathered in, as they should be since we cannot have/enforce laws ex-post-facto. that, however, made the sale legal to third parties. in the 90s you could go to any gun show and buy assault rifles still, and legally.

this is the same issue with any ban or strict regulation. we have enough guns for generations and generations to have a huge surplus.

the only things that would be meaningful would entail either a radical re-interpretation of the Second Amendment by the Supreme Court or a huge shift in our, gulp, our "cultural paradigm," or whatever buzz word you want to describe our attitudes, decisions and approach toward guns. In other words, don't hold your breath. Ain't shit gonna change.

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53. "It's so wild to watch....."
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the GOP run shamelessly to make this out to be a ISIS branded terrorist shooting....

I mean, even the police are making it known that its one thing to pledge allegiance to an Islamic terrorist organization and quite another to be funded and trained by those fucks...

Basically, this sick ass dude was on some extreme homophobic shit....It's the reason why he targeted that gay club in the first place....This man was simply a lone wolf who was INSPIRED by ISIS but used that for his own obsessive homophobia....

Its a hate crime to the extreme....

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54. "they're saying dude called 911 and pledged his allegiance to ISIS leader"
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just before the shootings.

  

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56. "RE: they're saying dude called 911 and pledged his allegiance to ISIS le..."
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>just before the shootings.


Indeed....and then he targeted a gay bar because he saw two men kissing each other a month or so ago....

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55. "FL Democrat Senator says shooter connected to ISIS"
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http://www.businessinsider.com/omar-mateen-orlando-nightclub-shooting-pulse-2016-6
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

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57. "RE: FL Democrat Senator say shooter connected to ISIS"
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>http://www.businessinsider.com/omar-mateen-orlando-nightclub-shooting-pulse-2016-

Yeah...that was one of the earliest comments...Now police investigators and the FBI are saying that the shooter was inspired by ISIS...

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58. "Anti-Gay copycats popping off..."
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Man arrested in LA with guns and explosives in his vehicle....Said he was on his way to the Gay Pride parade.....

Per the LA Times...

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63. "here's the article with info for folk in LA"
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http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-gay-pride-la-weapons-20160612-snap-story.html

  

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59. "its gonna be a looong summer. "
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****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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60. "Trump already going in (LINK)"
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/742034549232766976

'Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism, I don't want congrats, I want toughness & vigilance. We must be smart!'

'Is President Obama going to finally mention the words radical Islamic terrorism? If he doesn't he should immediately resign in disgrace!'

The guy is a opportunist.

  

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64. "RE: Trump already going in (LINK)"
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>https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/742034549232766976
>
>'Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic
>terrorism, I don't want congrats, I want toughness &
>vigilance. We must be smart!'
>
>'Is President Obama going to finally mention the words radical
>Islamic terrorism? If he doesn't he should immediately resign
>in disgrace!'
>
>The guy is a opportunist.

It's beyond that...He's despicable...He's already being called out for that Tweet from both side...That "appreciate" line was beyond wow...It will only hit home how un-Presidential that racist silly dick head is....

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61. "well, this is going to expose a lot"
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did I read correctly that this is the worst US terrorist attack of all time?

  

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67. "No, you read wrong. "
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>did I read correctly that this is the worst US terrorist
>attack of all time?
>

  

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69. "9/11, OKC, etc.."
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this was the deadliest mass shooting

>did I read correctly that this is the worst US terrorist
>attack of all time?
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71. "yeah, you're right...mass shooting"
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62. "Trump's reacton to 50 dead? The humble brag of course"
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/742034549232766976

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65. "what type of person pats themselves on the back for..."
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a tragedy like this?

  

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77. "He advocates big government intrusion and fear mongering..."
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... to get elected. Where have I seen this strategy before?

HMMMMMM......

*goes back 14 years and researches candidates*
*finds answer*

This is levels beyond a certain political party using 9/11 during their national convention to convince people to vote for them.

  

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78. "Trump advocates Trump"
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anything else is just a means to that

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103. "Also, what exactly was he even "right" about?"
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that this attack could have prevented if the president said "radical islamic terror"?

was someone denying that islamic terroists exist?

what a piece of shit

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70. "I think my neighbor was shot or injured there last nite"
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i hope she's okay
her spot she likes to party at




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76. "i hope she's alright. "
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84. "up to 59 dead now :("
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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90. ":-( :-( :-("
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...

♚♚♚♚

#BYLUG >>> https://goo.gl/1ooFp6

♚♚♚♚

screamin' mothafuck a 12 /
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85. "saddened and pessimistic."
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for all the thoughts and prayers and cries for change, I'm too jaded to think much will change after this.

four years ago a gotdamn elementary school class got gunned down, and we haven't done anything since then. emotions fade, nothing happens, and there'll be someone else using an AR-15 for tragedy soon enough.

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86. "you're right to feel that way, there will be zero change as a result of ..."
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And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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91. "yeah if a school full of white children getting shot does nothing"
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I just can't imagine this getting the ball rolling unfortunately.

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87. "Gofundme link."
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https://www.gofundme.com/pulsevictimsfund

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89. "also terrifying is possible retaliation. lgbts r bullied upon conception..."
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ijs. this sicko just kicked up the tension into the stratosphere.

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92. "my coworker is mad at Obama for blaming gun culture"
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and not blaming Muslim, ISIS, etc

I hate how we immediately turn to our politicians and start pointing fingers.

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94. "People can blame this or that, but the core issue is one thing"
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the lack of love and value for ones life. If you don't value your life or love yourself then it's easy to disregard the lives of others. And the any attitude like this is clouded in evil.



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95. "I don't know. I blame the fact some people are crazy. And the fact"
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that a crazy person can get access to a weapon that can kill 30 people in a matter of minutes is problematic.

And I am not anti-gun. I grew up with guns. Like shooting. Think more places could use more trained armed security guards.

But somehow they got us thinking that you have to be either/or. Either I am pro-taking everyone guns away or pro-no gun restriction of any kind. There has got to be a happy medium.

But at any rate dude was mentally ill. So was Adam Lanza and the dude behind the Colorado movie chain shooting. That's some ish that needs to be addressed.


>the lack of love and value for ones life. If you don't value
>your life or love yourself then it's easy to disregard the
>lives of others. And the any attitude like this is clouded in
>evil.
>
>
>
>.
>.
>.


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96. "aand elliot rodger..."
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>But at any rate dude was mentally ill. So was Adam Lanza and the dude behind the Colorado movie chain shooting. That's some ish that needs to be addressed.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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97. ""they wanna take away our guns""
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i hate that shit...

not all the guns... but America has tons of guns and we are a violent nation.

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129. "This!"
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>that a crazy person can get access to a weapon that can kill
>30 people in a matter of minutes is problematic.

  

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98. "Australia data shows gun controls a huge success 20 years after mass sho..."
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Australia data shows gun controls a huge success 20 years after mass shooting
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-australia-guns-idUSKCN0XP0HG

Australia on Thursday marked the 20th anniversary of a mass shooting which led to strict gun controls that have in turn led to a huge decline in gun murders, undermining claims in the United States that such curbs are not the answer.

The chances of being murdered by a gun in Australia plunged to 0.15 per 100,000 people in 2014 from 0.54 per 100,000 people in 1996, a decline of 72 percent, a Reuters analysis of Australian Bureau of Statistics figures showed.

In 1996, Australia had 311 murders, of which 98 were with guns. In 2014, with the population up from about 18 million to 23 million, Australia had 238 murders, of which 35 were with guns.


It was the April 28, 1996, shooting deaths by a lone gunman of 35 people in and around a cafe at a historic former prison colony in Tasmania that prompted the government to buy back or confiscate a million firearms and make it harder to buy new ones.

The country has had no mass shootings since.

The figures directly contradict assertions of most leading U.S. presidential candidates who have either questioned the need to toughen gun laws or directly denounced Australia's laws as dangerous.

In a January 2015 tweet, Republican front runner Donald Trump wrote "Fact – the tighter the gun laws, the more violence. The criminals will always have guns". A year later, Republican hopeful Ted Cruz blamed Australia's gun laws on a rise in sexual assault.

Democrat front runner Hillary Clinton has meanwhile ruled out an Australian-style gun buyback, while Democrat hopeful Bernie Sanders has rejected the need for tougher gun controls despite a gun murder rate of 3.4 per 100,000.

The U.S. National Rifle Association has attacked the Australian laws as "not the definition of common-sense".

Philip Alpers, an associate professor of University of Sydney's School of Public Health, who studies gun ownership and violence, said Australia's laws had had "demonstrable success".

"We have the most comprehensive suite of gun laws (in the world) and it would be a great shame to start whittling those down," he said.

Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull marked the anniversary by saying U.S. gun violence showed why Australia would keep its laws intact.

The rate of U.S. gun deaths shows "what happens when you have very little if any restrictions on the purchase of weapons like that", he told the Australian Broadcasting Corp.

  

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102. "they also have stricter immigration laws"
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and it's an island down under.

If it was easier to get into Australia and had neighboring borders with a place like Mexico I get those numbers get thrown out the window.

I'm still for stricter gun laws but I don't think Australia is the best example.

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106. "Look at the real numbers though. It's not comparable. "
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Yeah they had a 72% decrease but then they only had 311 murders (98 with guns) to start. Those numbers for a country of about 20M people are less then you see in a major city like Baltimore with a population of 600k people. Too hard to compare.



>
>Australia data shows gun controls a huge success 20 years
>after mass shooting
>http://www.reuters.com/article/us-australia-guns-idUSKCN0XP0HG
>
>Australia on Thursday marked the 20th anniversary of a mass
>shooting which led to strict gun controls that have in turn
>led to a huge decline in gun murders, undermining claims in
>the United States that such curbs are not the answer.
>
>The chances of being murdered by a gun in Australia plunged to
>0.15 per 100,000 people in 2014 from 0.54 per 100,000 people
>in 1996, a decline of 72 percent, a Reuters analysis of
>Australian Bureau of Statistics figures showed.
>
>In 1996, Australia had 311 murders, of which 98 were with
>guns. In 2014, with the population up from about 18 million to
>23 million, Australia had 238 murders, of which 35 were with
>guns.
>
>
>It was the April 28, 1996, shooting deaths by a lone gunman of
>35 people in and around a cafe at a historic former prison
>colony in Tasmania that prompted the government to buy back or
>confiscate a million firearms and make it harder to buy new
>ones.
>
>The country has had no mass shootings since.
>
>The figures directly contradict assertions of most leading
>U.S. presidential candidates who have either questioned the
>need to toughen gun laws or directly denounced Australia's
>laws as dangerous.
>
>In a January 2015 tweet, Republican front runner Donald Trump
>wrote "Fact – the tighter the gun laws, the more violence.
>The criminals will always have guns". A year later, Republican
>hopeful Ted Cruz blamed Australia's gun laws on a rise in
>sexual assault.
>
>Democrat front runner Hillary Clinton has meanwhile ruled out
>an Australian-style gun buyback, while Democrat hopeful Bernie
>Sanders has rejected the need for tougher gun controls despite
>a gun murder rate of 3.4 per 100,000.
>
>The U.S. National Rifle Association has attacked the
>Australian laws as "not the definition of common-sense".
>
>Philip Alpers, an associate professor of University of
>Sydney's School of Public Health, who studies gun ownership
>and violence, said Australia's laws had had "demonstrable
>success".
>
>"We have the most comprehensive suite of gun laws (in the
>world) and it would be a great shame to start whittling those
>down," he said.
>
>Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull marked the
>anniversary by saying U.S. gun violence showed why Australia
>would keep its laws intact.
>
>The rate of U.S. gun deaths shows "what happens when you have
>very little if any restrictions on the purchase of weapons
>like that", he told the Australian Broadcasting Corp.


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130. "their situation basically impossible to reproduce here"
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on the economic implications alone


but please keep chirping about australia and making all guns illegal so that we can skip over discussing realistic gun control measures

  

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99. "re: prayer to end things like this"
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you cant name an instance where prayer ended horrific acts (rape/molestation/murder/racism/bigotry/crime)

people have prayed (mom stays strong and beats cancer, marriage gets better, get this job we interviewed for) and things have worked out in the end

but ending violence? that's a worldwide epidemic that prayer cant solve

  

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100. "Then God either doesn't exist, is powerless, or doesn't care"
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i still blame hip-hop.

  

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101. "prayer is a personal thing IMO"
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I hate how people need to tell others God exist or doesn't exist.

just do what works for you and KIM.

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104. "How do we feel about multiple gunmen theories?"
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I keep seeing it on Twitter people are saying media is blacking out eyewitness reports..

But I wonder if people just keep hearing people were in bathrooms and just assuming they couldn't leave because of another gunman versus people just being scared

  

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105. "with the amount of people, i wouldn't be surprised"
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109. "A fully auto AR15 shoots 800 per minutes. 180 per minute with semi."
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Figure a 30 round magazine is standard, and you can buy ones that hold 100 rounds with ease. (And some that hold over 500.)

1 person with a gun CAN shoot 100 people really quickly - that's what the weapon is designed for.

This was a nightclub that was packed and he was a trained as a security guard so he knew some crowd control and how to shoot.

Cost for a new one: $1200 bucks


That's why we must ban AND confiscate military style weapons.

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112. "RE: A fully auto AR15 shoots 800 per minutes. 180 per minute with semi."
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Do you know how many people actually own legal AR15's? LOL that would never happen... And just for the record all this gun control talk is for future purchases for law abiding citizens. There's a very large amount of these types of guns in the hands of criminals now. If authorities can't confiscate them from all the criminals in America now, what makes you think they will be able to in the future?

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121. "We *could* change the laws"
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That's why I said in my post.
"That's why we must ban AND confiscate military style weapons."

Is the political will in this country for it? Probably not.

I do believe killing 50 people in a confined space with an automatic weapon is pretty much in anyone's grasp. Reports today said he visited the bar like 15 times - so planning where to stand , or he may have blocked exits (like the Virginia Tech guy) and then point and shoot.

I'm surprised (and thankful) it hasn't happened much more often.

We're a country with 10s of millions of fucking insane morons and you better believe Islamic terrorism would be a small part of our problems - domestic idiots would be blowing up federal buildings everywhere.

I'm old-ish, I'll make it. But you young'uns might not.

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114. "I'm not saying it's not possible"
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i'm just saying i wouldn't be surprised

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107. "they're already calling it a hoax too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0..."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0thCKVuWts

  

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108. "People who believe in crisis actors should be catapulted into the ocean"
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110. "I think they're ridiculous..."
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The media couldn't black all that out if people were trying to get the word out.

I'm coming to loathe conspiracy theorists.

  

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119. "MEDIA BLACKOUT"
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or people are dumb

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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111. "It's not a gay/straight thing, not a religion thing. It's not a gun thin..."
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It's not a gay or straight thing. It's not a religion thing. It's not a gun thing. It's not a right wing or left wing thing. It's a mental health thing. And until the mental health profession is seen as just as integral to society as traditional medicine and other sciences, these tragedies will continue. Well, to be honest, these tragedies will continue anyways. Even if you ban AR's, vote a certain way, accept all colors, creeds, orientations, etc

  

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113. "maybe a mentally ill homophobic person on the FBI terrorist watchlist"
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shouldn't be allowed to legally purchase an AR15

this doesn't have to be about one thing

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115. "Is the US the only place with major mental health issues?"
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116. "exactly... its definitely an American problem. "
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while other regions have mass shootings, we have them far more often

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117. "besides the middle east..yeah"
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118. "LOL"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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120. "Update: The shooter was regular at the Club! <;Swipe>"
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Shocking... A homophobe is gay. :/

http://gawker.com/orlando-shooter-was-reportedly-a-regular-at-pulse-and-h-1781920316
Early Sunday morning, Omar Mateen shot and killed 49 people at a gay nightclub in Orlando, perpetrating the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history. Mateen, his father explained the next day, had repeatedly been angered by the sight of two men kissing. But according to witnesses, Mateen was also a regular at the club and exchanged messages with at least one gay man on a gay dating app.

“It’s the same guy,” Chris Callen, who performs under the name Kristina McLaughlin, told the Canadian Press. “He’s been going to this bar for at least three years.”

Ty Smith, who also goes by the name Aries, also said he’d seen Mateen being escorted drunk from the club, Pulse, on multiple occasions.

“(He’d get) really, really drunk... He couldn’t drink when he was at home—around his wife, or family. His father was really strict... He used to bitch about it,” Smith told the Canadian Press.

“Sometimes he would go over in the corner and sit and drink by himself, and other times he would get so drunk he was loud and belligerent,” Smith also explained to the Orlando Sentinel, which spoke with at least four clubgoers who remembered seeing Mateen at Pulse at least a dozen times. “We didn’t really talk to him a lot, but I remember him saying things about his dad at times... He told us he had a wife and child.”

Both Callen and Smith, who are married, tell the Canadian Press they stopped speaking to Mateen after he threatened them with a knife, apparently after someone made a joke about religion.

“He ended up pulling a knife,” Callen said. “He said if he ever messed with him again, you know how it’ll turn out.”

Mateen, who was married in 2009, was abusive and unstable, his ex-wife says. They were married for just a few months before her parents rescued her from their home in Florida, leaving most of her belongings behind. It’s still unclear if he was married again after their divorce was finalized in 2011.


Ex-Wife of Alleged Orlando Shooter Says He Was Unstable and Abusive
The Washington Post spoke with the ex-wife of suspected Orlando shooter Omar Mateen, who says he…
Read more
MSNBC host Chris Hayes also says he spoke to a man who claims both he and a friend received messages from Mateen via a gay dating app. The full story is set to air tonight on Hayes’ show, All In.
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122. "yup, this is why I say he needed therapy"
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see..this is why I say he needed therapy..to deal with whatever he was dealing with inside..instaed his distress was turned inwards causing anger issues with his spouse, depression, and finally outward, harming others..folks dont hear me though





>Shocking... A homophobe is gay. :/
>
>http://gawker.com/orlando-shooter-was-reportedly-a-regular-at-pulse-and-h-1781920316
>Early Sunday morning, Omar Mateen shot and killed 49 people at
>a gay nightclub in Orlando, perpetrating the deadliest mass
>shooting in U.S. history. Mateen, his father explained the
>next day, had repeatedly been angered by the sight of two men
>kissing. But according to witnesses, Mateen was also a regular
>at the club and exchanged messages with at least one gay man
>on a gay dating app.
>
>“It’s the same guy,” Chris Callen, who performs under
>the name Kristina McLaughlin, told the Canadian Press.
>“He’s been going to this bar for at least three years.”
>
>Ty Smith, who also goes by the name Aries, also said he’d
>seen Mateen being escorted drunk from the club, Pulse, on
>multiple occasions.
>
>“(He’d get) really, really drunk... He couldn’t drink
>when he was at home—around his wife, or family. His father
>was really strict... He used to bitch about it,” Smith told
>the Canadian Press.
>
>“Sometimes he would go over in the corner and sit and drink
>by himself, and other times he would get so drunk he was loud
>and belligerent,” Smith also explained to the Orlando
>Sentinel, which spoke with at least four clubgoers who
>remembered seeing Mateen at Pulse at least a dozen times.
>“We didn’t really talk to him a lot, but I remember him
>saying things about his dad at times... He told us he had a
>wife and child.”
>
>Both Callen and Smith, who are married, tell the Canadian
>Press they stopped speaking to Mateen after he threatened them
>with a knife, apparently after someone made a joke about
>religion.
>
>“He ended up pulling a knife,” Callen said. “He said if
>he ever messed with him again, you know how it’ll turn
>out.”
>
>Mateen, who was married in 2009, was abusive and unstable, his
>ex-wife says. They were married for just a few months before
>her parents rescued her from their home in Florida, leaving
>most of her belongings behind. It’s still unclear if he was
>married again after their divorce was finalized in 2011.
>
>
>Ex-Wife of Alleged Orlando Shooter Says He Was Unstable and
>Abusive
>The Washington Post spoke with the ex-wife of suspected
>Orlando shooter Omar Mateen, who says he…
>Read more
>MSNBC host Chris Hayes also says he spoke to a man who claims
>both he and a friend received messages from Mateen via a gay
>dating app. The full story is set to air tonight on Hayes’
>show, All In.
>___________________________________________________________
>
>
>DJTB YOMM

  

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123. "*waits for legitimate source*"
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125. "One source has met with the FBI about the gay dating app, "
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http://abc7ny.com/news/man-orlando-gunman-used-dating-app-to-ask-about-gay-clubs/1383103/
Kevin West said the shooter, 29-year-old Omar Mateen, contacted him three months ago through a dating app called Jack'd.

"When he first contacted me, he was saying things like, 'What clubs are popping and things of that sort, what are good places to go?'" West said. "And I remember telling him, 'Oh, you can just look it up online because I don't go out that much."
West said he didn't think anything of it at the time. On Sunday morning, he said he met with FBI agents and showed them his communications with Mateen.
Thousands of people have donated blood in response to this shooting. More prayer vigils are scheduled Monday morning.

Interview in 15 minutes on MSNBC with what sounds like the same dude.
https://mobile.twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/742475540720848897?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Christopher Hayes
The man I spoke with today also said the shooter has messaged him on a gay dating app. His friend as well. We'll run the interview tonight.
MSNBC 10pm tonight.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/pulse-orlando-nightclub-shooting/os-orlando-nightclub-omar-mateen-profile-20160613-story.html


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124. "Not surprised at all... "
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126. "of course. "
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i was wondering how he scouted out the spot so well and figured he'd been there a time or twelve on some 'reconnaissance' ish.

so he couldn't take the dissonance and kirked the fuck out.


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127. "So not only was he a regular at the pulse but gay bars all over"
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Bouncers recognized him and had kicked him out for being rowdy and drunk.
There are so many things here...

*Seems like he was a police worshipper because he went on ride along, took classes to apply to the police, and too several selfies in NYPD paraphanelia. What is scary is he took the test for the police and he PASSED the psychological test. Not sure but I thought I read that he may have worked in prisons as a guard.

* Closeted gay who not only frequented clubs, he had people he talked to and knew to that knew his back story.

*Wife beater who started beating his wife one mont after they got married.

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128. "So the shooter allegedly told the victims he had no problem with blacks?"
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http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/14/us/orlando-shooting-as-it-happened/index.html
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132. "But some of the victims were black, that makes no sense to me."
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133. "I agree, but if dude just went in blasting he's gonna hit everyone. "
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131. "So his wife knew about his plans and tried to talk him out of it...."
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But didn't go to the police? Hmmm

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