If she feels the need to be 2 - 3 hours late on a regular basis, she should set the start time back on her shows by 2 - 3 hours. Of course she won't do that, though, because advertised 12 and 1 AM start times would lead to way fewer ticket sales.

Plus, I see she was on time for her Black Girls Rock performance.

Anyway,

http://www.okayplayer.com/news/ms-lauryn-hill-pens-open-letter-in-response-to-criticism.html

I don't show up late to shows because I don't care. And I have nothing but Love and respect for my fans. The challenge is aligning my energy with the time, taking something that isn't easily classified or contained, and trying to make it available for others. I don't have an on/off switch. I am at my best when I am open, rested, sensitive and liberated to express myself as truthfully as possible. For every performance that I've arrived to late, there have been countless others where I've performed in excess of two hours, beyond what I am contracted to do, pouring everything out on the stage.

Because I care so deeply about the artistic process, I scrutinize, have perfectionist tendencies, and want space made for spontaneity, which is not an easy process, with the many moving parts on the road. Some days we are more successful than others re time. However, the vitality that is infused into the performances is always appreciated by the audiences, who may not know exactly what it took to accomplish. What hasn't been touched upon by the media, I'm sure, are the hundreds of people who rushed the stage and stayed in excess of an hour after the show ended last night, just to connect.

Our challenge is to figure out the best way to accommodate the vitality, spontaneity, and spirit that make the performances worthwhile and special to begin with, while also making that experience available and accessible to others. If I didn't Love and respect the art, I wouldn't be doing this. The audience and I should have that in common.

My true audience knows emphatically that I care. It isn't possible to affect people in any deep and meaningful way without putting sacrificial time in.

I have nothing but Love and appreciation for the fans in Atlanta, and regret not being able to give you a full show. We are figuring out a plan to make it up to you, and will announce details as soon as we have them.

Respectfully,
MLH

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Idiots

probably not the only ones. it's so easy to hate on them, but something is seriously wrong with each one of them, and they need help.

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batshit tour

i think she just lives up her own ass

definitely possible tho

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personally, i think we all have mental issues to some extent, but some people's are worse and also some people can't handle theirs as well as others do.

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They don't want to hear about your energy and chakras. Just sing That Thing.

Why folks are still shelling out 80 bucks for Lauren Hill tickets in 2016 is beyond me though lol. Don't they have Yelp for concerts? They should

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>They don't want to hear about your energy and chakras. Just
>sing That Thing.
>
>Why folks are still shelling out 80 bucks for Lauren Hill
>tickets in 2016 is beyond me though lol. Don't they have Yelp
>for concerts? They should


...the folks who are still buying her tickets, probably for the most part, are that crowd that wants to hear about aligning energies and chakras..

shit is sad overall....

I think quest hit the nail on the head...there's some self sabotage and age fear in the mix somewhere...

I knew a girl back in college who could rhyme her ass off but her sense of time management was rude as shit. We would tell her the what time the bus was leaving for a show and the next day she was no where to be found. 45 minutes later we finally found her picking dandelions from a random yard in the hood. Her response when we asked WTF..."oh, there is a show today?"

She actually met Lauryn and was backstage in her dressing room before a show. Lauryn's couldn't find her purse and everyone looked at my friend like she stole it. LOL..

last time I saw her in Philly I took her to South St and she was looking up at the buildings talking about how beautiful a number was on a billboard. Not the font style, just the number.

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Girl behavior.

truly gifted.. and truly out of her damn mind when it came to everyday life.

one time we stopped at a gas station in WV at 3AM and someone in the gas station accused her of stealing cigarettes. We had to pay a fine or risk going to jail.

For years we thought it was some racist bullshit but my boy and I talked a wile back and replayed some of her weirdness and wondered if she may have actually stole them.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

>last time I saw her in Philly I took her to South St and she
>was looking up at the buildings talking about how beautiful a
>number was on a billboard. Not the font style, just the
>number.

She wasn't an artist tho. Got to this jawn's house, we're talking outside and she starts going on about how beautiful the crickets sounds and can I just feel the energy of nature!

I should've Grandpa Simpson'd that situation right there.

>If she feels the need to be 2 - 3 hours late on a regular
>basis, she should set the start time back on her shows by 2 -
>3 hours. Of course she won't do that, though, because
>advertised 12 and 1 AM start times would lead to way fewer
>ticket sales.
>
>Plus, I see she was on time for her Black Girls Rock
>performance.
>
>Anyway,
>
>http://www.okayplayer.com/news/ms-lauryn-hill-pens-open-letter-in-response-to-criticism.html
>
>I don't show up late to shows because I don't care. And I have
>nothing but Love and respect for my fans. The challenge is
>aligning my energy with the time, taking something that isn't
>easily classified or contained, and trying to make it
>available for others. I don't have an on/off switch. I am at
>my best when I am open, rested, sensitive and liberated to
>express myself as truthfully as possible. For every
>performance that I've arrived to late, there have been
>countless others where I've performed in excess of two hours,
>beyond what I am contracted to do, pouring everything out on
>the stage.
>
>Because I care so deeply about the artistic process, I
>scrutinize, have perfectionist tendencies, and want space made
>for spontaneity, which is not an easy process, with the many
>moving parts on the road. Some days we are more successful
>than others re time. However, the vitality that is infused
>into the performances is always appreciated by the audiences,
>who may not know exactly what it took to accomplish. What
>hasn't been touched upon by the media, I'm sure, are the
>hundreds of people who rushed the stage and stayed in excess
>of an hour after the show ended last night, just to connect.
>
>Our challenge is to figure out the best way to accommodate the
>vitality, spontaneity, and spirit that make the performances
>worthwhile and special to begin with, while also making that
>experience available and accessible to others. If I didn't
>Love and respect the art, I wouldn't be doing this. The
>audience and I should have that in common.
>
>My true audience knows emphatically that I care. It isn't
>possible to affect people in any deep and meaningful way
>without putting sacrificial time in.
>
>I have nothing but Love and appreciation for the fans in
>Atlanta, and regret not being able to give you a full show. We
>are figuring out a plan to make it up to you, and will
>announce details as soon as we have them.
>
>Respectfully,
>MLH

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not with her unprofessionalism
but having to deal with everything she's suffered through, in the public eye nonetheless
at this point people are buying tickets either to support her just because or they're buying tickets to have a reason to talk shit. the latter is lame

Bottom line is she's a pro, and her fan base has shit to do these days, as Quest more or less argued.

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they want to see a show.

I wonder if she acts clueless when it comes to feeding her kids?

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

public eye my foot


>not with her unprofessionalism
>but having to deal with everything she's suffered through, in
>the public eye nonetheless
>at this point people are buying tickets either to support her
>just because or they're buying tickets to have a reason to
>talk shit. the latter is lame

it's evident she suffered some sort of breakdown some time ago
now she has to get back out here to make money despite apparently not being fully healed
it's sad and not something I can laugh at or really scorn her about
I'd just advise people against purchasing tickets unless they're looking for something to complain about

>it's evident she suffered some sort of breakdown some time
>ago
>now she has to get back out here to make money despite
>apparently not being fully healed
>it's sad and not something I can laugh at or really scorn her
>about
>I'd just advise people against purchasing tickets unless
>they're looking for something to complain about

but id never buy a ticket anyway so i dont have a dog in the fight.

because of where she and her work figured to that time in our lives.

While we look at lets say Wyclef for being emotionally abuse through their relationship, it doesn't absolve her for apparently giving none of her bandmembers credit on an album, nahmean? Just because you're going through stuff doesn't give you passes for doing shitty things.

It's just an interesting contrast how we put lots of value in the rumors of her struggling through alot of things, things that many of us struggle with and still maintain. But we kind of ignore the many rumors of her just being a general asshole, lol. Remember, she was infamously late for shows even before this current Sony forced iteration.

Putting this in contrast with the loss of someone like Prince who had his own demons, demons that looks like actually killed him, but still managed to 'show up' until the very end

... I'm not here so much for the lateness excuses either and that 'apology' was god-awful but is her breakdown really just conjecture at this point? Her loony behavior has been pretty well-documented so I think atruhead has a really good point -- she ain't ready so this is the result. It's exactly why I refuse to go to her shows. I wish her well, but I won't fall for the banana in the tailpipe.

Rohan
like 5 kids
whoever Brother Anthony was
the pressure to follow up an Album Of The Year Grammy and then getting sued by collaborators
not to mention Hip Hop is drastically different than what it was in her prime

I dont know that she could make new impactful music if she wanted to as she's more of a vocalist/emcee that would have to pay musicians their worth, but that doesnt excuse her regular tardiness

not buying a ticket to her concert? ok fine
buying a ticket (knowing she has a rep for being late), and then making publicly disparaging comments about her afterwards? I don't think that's ok
not buying tix to her concerts and trashing her online when you heard she was late again? i don't find that ok either

point being, she's human. whatever her issues her, they are. how does publicly ridiculing her help that?

let the market speak. anyone who doesn't like it, just don't support. done.

i love her to death and personally would not buy a ticket to her show. Am i giving her a pass? yes and no

d

seems pretty cut and dry.

it's not like she reads every post online. sure she has plenty of shrugs left in her bag.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

>not buying a ticket to her concert? ok fine
>buying a ticket (knowing she has a rep for being late), and
>then making publicly disparaging comments about her
>afterwards? I don't think that's ok

Why is this not OK? Buying a ticket shouldn't be a buyer beware contract, lol. We're a bit more music industry saavy by the nature of the forum then many and it's not as if Lauryn Hill being late gets reported on CNN. Guaranteed a large amount of the people complaining had no clue. And the fact they are complaining + it's getting coverage is a good thing; because they can make an informed decision like me and you can make as opposed to thinking buying a Lauryn Hill ticket is like any other show.

>not buying tix to her concerts and trashing her online when
>you heard she was late again? i don't find that ok either
>
>point being, she's human. whatever her issues her, they are.
>how does publicly ridiculing her help that?

onto my previous point, yeah and no. By the nature of internet I dont doubt she got a bunch of trolls on some 'You fucking bitch...blah blah blah' who are just using it as an excuse to drag anyone down and make them feel better about themselves. At the same time, imagine you saved up money/time, babysitters to go to a Lauryn Hill concert because those tickets are not cheap, and she doesn't show up? And like I said, if this was a one off, cool. Or if it was just current era Lauryn. But we are decades into this behavior now...

>>not buying a ticket to her concert? ok fine
>>buying a ticket (knowing she has a rep for being late), and
>>then making publicly disparaging comments about her
>>afterwards? I don't think that's ok
>
>Why is this not OK? Buying a ticket shouldn't be a buyer
>beware contract, lol.

but it always is. I bought a ticket to MJ in London...he died.

some bought tix to Nashville Beyonce...it was cancelled.

some had tix to Janet world tour..she got pregnant and postponed.

shit happens.

We're a bit more music industry saavy by
>the nature of the forum then many and it's not as if Lauryn
>Hill being late gets reported on CNN. Guaranteed a large
>amount of the people complaining had no clue. And the fact
>they are complaining + it's getting coverage is a good thing;
>because they can make an informed decision like me and you can
>make as opposed to thinking buying a Lauryn Hill ticket is
>like any other show.

one can complain without making personal insults, no? As you can see, my rub is not with the complaining, it's with the disparaging comments.

>onto my previous point, yeah and no. By the nature of
>internet I dont doubt she got a bunch of trolls on some 'You
>fucking bitch...blah blah blah' who are just using it as an
>excuse to drag anyone down and make them feel better about
>themselves. At the same time, imagine you saved up
>money/time, babysitters to go to a Lauryn Hill concert because
>those tickets are not cheap, and she doesn't show up? And
>like I said, if this was a one off, cool. Or if it was just
>current era Lauryn. But we are decades into this behavior
>now...

exactly. I know better LOL

but even still, things can happen. accidents, venue issues...all consumer behavior has some "buyer beware" elements built in. I don't see how a concert is any different

d

but the things you listed are anomalies for those artist. Mike, Janet, Bey don't have a history for missing or being that late to shows. they valued their fans.

I don't get that feeling that lauren really respects her fans the same way. everybody pretty much knows that lauren has been consistently late for years now. I won''t buy a ticket, but those that do hope that she will do better and I think are rooting for her.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

...and in a clip i saw over the weekend that her driver got lost..
comparing her to beyonce and mj etc isn't a good comparison at all..totally different

that stuff is out of our control

what is in our control is

whether or not we buy a ticket and

whether or not we choose to wait for her to get onstage and

whether or not we write mean and nasty personal shit about her that is beyond just (legitimately) complaining that she was late.

i'm specifically talking about those things.

d

The lumping her lateness into "shit happens" and using Beyoncé and mj as examples..

And it goes back to what bigreg said..maybe buyers beware mightn't have been the best term sicnr technically it is...but nobody (except lauryn hill 2016 fans) buys a concert ticket and their predominant thought leading up to the show is..."man. I wonder if she's going to show". It shouldn't be that much of a gamble.

anyone that paid money when you start talking about 'true fans' and shit like that. there's no way to justify that sort of language when you're the one that's causing the issue. you're lucky to still have anyone paying for your show at a major venue when you haven't had new product in over a decade.

be on time, do your set, and bounce. especially if you're at a venue that will not allow overage on time. if you continually screw people with your tardiness and lack of professionalism/respect, people will take snipes at you.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

>anyone that paid money when you start talking about 'true
>fans' and shit like that. there's no way to justify that sort
>of language when you're the one that's causing the issue.
>you're lucky to still have anyone paying for your show at a
>major venue when you haven't had new product in over a
>decade.
>
>be on time, do your set, and bounce. especially if you're at a
>venue that will not allow overage on time. if you continually
>screw people with your tardiness and lack of
>professionalism/respect, people will take snipes at you.

she doesn't need to tour. and if she does, then she needs to understand BEFORE she tours that there are expectations. if she can't meet them, don't tour. i don't want to hear excuses now. it's bullshit at this point.

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once you take people's money, you owe them a show, and you need to be on time. fuck your personal problems. handle those on your time.

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>once you take people's money, you owe them a show, and you
>need to be on time. fuck your personal problems. handle those
>on your time.

God forbid you only have one way of making income short of roping fans into a pyramid scheme and real life shit going on with the world demanding shit from you

Im not making excuses for her, but the onus is more on fans to not buy tickets considering her track record unless it's absolute unconditional support they're showing. it shouldnt be that way, but life is real

at the end of the Netflix Nina Simone documentary she was still performing way past being worn out, but she put on a show because she was destitute

all Im saying is these people are human despite your expectations

in and out of the industry. plus, if she's knee deep financially, that's her fault. if she needs money, ripping off your fans is not how to do it. that's bullshit.

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Im not making excuses for her, but she may have some mental stumbling blocks given she hasnt released an album in 16 years

again it's unprofessional and sad to witness, but I dont think she's villainous so much as she's helpless

Imagine doing something you no longer have the desire to do...

like...
your job
marriage

Who is forcing her to perform?

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I think that's who's she with...

and she even said as much if I remember right after they 'signed' her and she started touring again.

>I think that's who's she with...

THAT SHE STILL HASN'T DELIVERED ON. They'll give her even more money if she can come up with an LP's worth of music, but "energy" being what it is...

>THAT SHE STILL HASN'T DELIVERED ON. They'll give her even
>more money if she can come up with an LP's worth of music, but
>"energy" being what it is...

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I mean, it IS her job.

Do the job or quit.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

the Lauryn Lotto at this point.

i love that she used the 'no true scotsman' argument, tho.

only if you are pure of heart, mind and spirit can you detect the necessity of the alignment of the chakra khans which leads to the 7th level of overstanding the non-linearity of temporal constraints upon creation.


i shoulda threw a beloved in there, but i think desus got that copyrighted.


peace & blessings,

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MF Doom sending DOOMposters to stand in for his show was a piece of shit move.

It was also brilliant.

It was a simultaneous...INTENTIONAL fuck you to the fans/stans...a statement about the music being the most important thing....and an outstanding nod to comic book nerds like myself.

See...Dr. Doom was good for sending bots to handle shit and just when you think you've got Doom cornered....you been fighting a robot all this time.

It was genius (to me)...and if I had gone to a Doom Show and gotten a DOOMposter...I would have cracked up laughing for most of the show.

PLUS...he even played off of that shit and sent Mos Def out in a Doom mask at a show THAT HE WAS AT AND LATER PERFORMED

That is a very calculated statement...and he has never apologized.

This thing with Lauryn is more callous and disrespectful to me...and Doom tickets ain't never been 80 bucks.

I may be alone on this one...but I'm just trying to be honest.

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there's a buyer beware element if you fkn w/ a DOOM show in that regard.

i'da been heated if i was one of the first vics, but after that ish became common knowledge? *shrug*

>MF Doom sending DOOMposters to stand in for his show was a
>piece of shit move.
>
>It was also brilliant.
>
>It was a simultaneous...INTENTIONAL fuck you to the
>fans/stans...a statement about the music being the most
>important thing....and an outstanding nod to comic book nerds
>like myself.

right.

>
>See...Dr. Doom was good for sending bots to handle shit and
>just when you think you've got Doom cornered....you been
>fighting a robot all this time.
>
>It was genius (to me)...and if I had gone to a Doom Show and
>gotten a DOOMposter...I would have cracked up laughing for
>most of the show.
>
>PLUS...he even played off of that shit and sent Mos Def out in
>a Doom mask at a show THAT HE WAS AT AND LATER PERFORMED
>

right. that's hilarious, especially in that context.

>That is a very calculated statement...and he has never
>apologized.

>This thing with Lauryn is more callous and disrespectful to
>me...and Doom tickets ain't never been 80 bucks.
>
>I may be alone on this one...but I'm just trying to be
>honest.
>

i was kinda alluding to that. DOOM at least owns his shit, to some extent. it may be an ex post facto excuse for flaking on shit, but there's a rationale to it and it has become part of his lore.

the lauryn lotto on the other hand... i couldn't do it.

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i already knew that id take what i could get as far as a legit show, she when the masked one parted the stage crowd and simply started with playing dark instrumental bangers for a long ass time i was good, vibin and shit to his production. some in the crowd eventually lost it, yellin for him to rap and threw a beer can, at which point whoever it was bounced again into the night haha

.

whew!

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That "true audience" paragraph rubs me the wrong way too.

Glad I saw her in '99. No way in hell I'd pay to see her now.

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>That "true audience" paragraph rubs me the wrong way too.
>
>Glad I saw her in '99. No way in hell I'd pay to see her now.
>
>
>

i still blame hip-hop.

1. You ain't the first artist who has to perform at specific times. Are the folks who manage to do perform on time somehow lesser artist? Do they have an on and off switch? Do they care less about the artistic process?

2. The fact that some people put up with her bullshit, that makes them true fans? Maybe those people who stayed and hour after the show don't have jobs in the morning.

3. Instead of being mad you werre late folks are suppose to be thanking you because you some time perform in excess of your contracted time?




>If she feels the need to be 2 - 3 hours late on a regular
>basis, she should set the start time back on her shows by 2 -
>3 hours. Of course she won't do that, though, because
>advertised 12 and 1 AM start times would lead to way fewer
>ticket sales.
>
>Plus, I see she was on time for her Black Girls Rock
>performance.
>
>Anyway,
>
>http://www.okayplayer.com/news/ms-lauryn-hill-pens-open-letter-in-response-to-criticism.html
>
>I don't show up late to shows because I don't care. And I have
>nothing but Love and respect for my fans. The challenge is
>aligning my energy with the time, taking something that isn't
>easily classified or contained, and trying to make it
>available for others. I don't have an on/off switch. I am at
>my best when I am open, rested, sensitive and liberated to
>express myself as truthfully as possible. For every
>performance that I've arrived to late, there have been
>countless others where I've performed in excess of two hours,
>beyond what I am contracted to do, pouring everything out on
>the stage.
>
>Because I care so deeply about the artistic process, I
>scrutinize, have perfectionist tendencies, and want space made
>for spontaneity, which is not an easy process, with the many
>moving parts on the road. Some days we are more successful
>than others re time. However, the vitality that is infused
>into the performances is always appreciated by the audiences,
>who may not know exactly what it took to accomplish. What
>hasn't been touched upon by the media, I'm sure, are the
>hundreds of people who rushed the stage and stayed in excess
>of an hour after the show ended last night, just to connect.
>
>Our challenge is to figure out the best way to accommodate the
>vitality, spontaneity, and spirit that make the performances
>worthwhile and special to begin with, while also making that
>experience available and accessible to others. If I didn't
>Love and respect the art, I wouldn't be doing this. The
>audience and I should have that in common.
>
>My true audience knows emphatically that I care. It isn't
>possible to affect people in any deep and meaningful way
>without putting sacrificial time in.
>
>I have nothing but Love and appreciation for the fans in
>Atlanta, and regret not being able to give you a full show. We
>are figuring out a plan to make it up to you, and will
>announce details as soon as we have them.
>
>Respectfully,
>MLH


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

...Or is she still doing remixes of Miseducation???

I find it amazing that she still can sell tickets to a show doing that same album.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

I'm just going to say that my energy wasn't right at the time of the appointment. she is a great performer but I can't support this, nope.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

Chastain is smack dab in old-time Buckhead money neighborhood and they've pissed off tons of artists in the past for enforcing their strict 11 PM curfew. Shows often feel rushed there with little time for an opener, setup or getting the sound right, and the area immediate to the stage is VIP "picnic" lawn, where these old white folks that pay for a "season passes" to Chastain sit, drink wine and don't give a fuck about whats going on on stage. So there is that.


But she took the check and someone should have told her there was a very hard out for that show.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

I mean it rained the WHOLE show. She went on on time, gave a helluva show, and apologized for not being better b/c the weather was so bad.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

all kindsa magical creatures attacking her an shit. and then we got the nerve to be mad she two hours late. she was fighting half of slytherin and aybody knows her broom be real sometimey.


peace & blessings,

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I'm an advocate for working smarter, not harder. If you just
focus on working hard you end up making someone else rich and
not having much to show for it. (c) mad

just two hours after it was supposed to start, then was told it's a hard stop at 11 so Buffy and Harrison can sleep soundly.

seriously, if you are 2 hours late there is no plan.

well, plan on being shitted on in the press the next day

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

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IG: amadu_me

"...Whateva, man..." (c) Redman

the only people paying to see her in 2016 are true fans.

wtf, she acts like she is performing for fake fans..

Shit is beyond rude. Once or twice is understandable cause shit happens but it sounds like a show starting on time is rare.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

I saw her last August and not only was she on time, her set was nothing but pure motherfucking energy! I was very impressed by what I saw and heard.

I don't know if I'm lucky or are the folks who have been screwed just unlucky? Is the consensus that most of her shows are late and fucked up or do we only hear about those shows?

I'm curious to hear about the positive experiences at a Lauryn show.

kev

last summer was good. she wasn't late etc.

she's coming back to Richmond this week (i think), but the risk outweighs the reward, imo.