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naame
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"When your city desegregated, what happened to the black schools?"


  

          

Been hearing a story recently about how the black high school in Jacksonville, FL was converted into a middle school, basically ending any legacy that the school may carry for future generations. The black high school in my home county of Howard County, MD was closed, read about it: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/education/bs-md-news-ho-tubman-anniversary-0913-20150909-story.html

The high school that I attended was built right next to it.

  

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What happened in my town is particularly non-typical
Apr 06th 2016
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i'd read that
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Someone did write about it years ago.
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      thanks
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      Ho.ly.shit.
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that's top notch organizing right there
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Columbia had Black folks in the 50s?? wow ...never knew that
Apr 06th 2016
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i know the guy Rouse that came up with the concept for Columbia
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i didn't know that either....i do remember reading it was a new
Apr 06th 2016
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      Young, he broke it down so far that there's an ordinance that says
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black people always been there.
Apr 06th 2016
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      thx...interesting....good read
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I think Philly was always more or less desegregated.
Apr 06th 2016
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modern day consequences of jim crow
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I don't think my city ever had black schools
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that's exactly what happened to our black high school
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RE: that's exactly what happened to our black high school
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Wait...so what's the deal with this when it happens? I never thought
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Buddy_Gilapagos
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1. "What happened in my town is particularly non-typical "
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Wed Apr-06-16 11:02 AM by Buddy_Gilapagos

  

          

So the public schools in my town in the 70s were going to shit after desegregation because white folks took their kids out of the school and the school board and local government was diverting funds from the public schools and I believe helping funding the private school somehow.

Black folks reached a breaking point and organized and took over the look government and the school board. Brought in a great superintendant and began investing heavily in the school. Also the tax based of the county was rising because of a huge industrial plant moved into the town.

By the time I got to high school our public school system was the crown jewel of the county and we had one of the highest graduation to college rates in the State.

Also we hard this weird situation where the desegregated majority black school was better than the almost all white private school.

It was beautiful.

Then the reverse of white flight happened. White folks started coming back to the public school and now I think the schools are no longer majority black...which is also reflected in the teaching staff.

I keep meaning to write about it.

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2. "i'd read that"
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thats facinating

  

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Buddy_Gilapagos
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5. "Someone did write about it years ago. "
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https://www.unz.org/Pub/PolicyRev-1994q1-00068

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naame
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11. "thanks"
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soulpsychodelicyde
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17. "Ho.ly.shit."
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I know the writer. I saw the author's name and said, 'Naw... couldn't be..." Went to my LinkedIn and sure enough...

The world is too damn small.

  

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naame
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12. "that's top notch organizing right there"
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then the fortuitous circumstance of becoming a company town really broke the back of the segregationists. awesome.

  

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ambient1
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Wed Apr-06-16 10:54 AM

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3. "Columbia had Black folks in the 50s?? wow ...never knew that"
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Wed Apr-06-16 11:04 AM by ambient1

  

          

in town every school is a black school lol...

cept the private schools like MSJ,Mercy, Cardinal Gibbons an em

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6. "i know the guy Rouse that came up with the concept for Columbia"
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wanted it to be diverse economically. and he wanted a mix use set up where people could work, live, and hang out all in the same area.

but i'm not sure that he had black folks in mind when he was planning on all that diversity...

  

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ambient1
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7. "i didn't know that either....i do remember reading it was a new"
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designed 'city' or area by Rouse...but I didn't know all the deets as to who,what,when,etc

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BigJazz
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8. "Young, he broke it down so far that there's an ordinance that says "
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businesses can't have signs that are over a certain height. ever wonder why everything is tucked away in the trees and you gotta get right up on stuff to know it's there?

that shit was by design. shit's kinda fascinating.


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naame
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13. "black people always been there. "
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wylene burch at the howard county black heritage museum has an entire collection of artifacts on black life in the area. http://www.thebeaconnewspapers.com/select-stories/features/sharing-african-american-heritage

  

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ambient1
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14. "thx...interesting....good read"
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4. "I think Philly was always more or less desegregated."
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I will say, after I graduated in 1997, the public schools fell off a cliff entirely within a few years. That was probably brewing for decades, but I was privileged enough to go to the best public schools and I was shielded from alot of that by my parents.

Now, many of the schools in Black neighborhoods have been closed and those kids go to charters. As far as I know, none of the schools in white neighborhoods were closed.

  

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naame
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18. "modern day consequences of jim crow "
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still playing out

  

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soken
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9. "I don't think my city ever had black schools"
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we keep it moving,

  

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dapitts08
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10. "that's exactly what happened to our black high school"
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it became the middle school that I went to...
http://www.doverpost.com/article/20160217/NEWS/160219769

another one became a community college...my mom went there
http://www.delmarvanow.com/story/news/local/delaware/2015/02/05/historic-black-school-remains-fond-memory/22914463/

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naame
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15. "RE: that's exactly what happened to our black high school"
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smh

  

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16. "Wait...so what's the deal with this when it happens? I never thought"
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much about it, but I realized that my mom went to a High School in Quincy, FL (6K population next to Tallahassee) that was called Carter Paramore back in the 60's, which was ALLLL all Black...and it ended up being converted into a Middle School, and they opened a school called Shanks. Now, Shanks is a Middle School, and they combined the kids from there and another school and created a new High School called East Gadsen High.

So wow, that's two HS's converted into Middle Schools. What's the reasons for this, and how does it work?

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