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"No!.Afrika Bambaata child molester??? wow (swipe)"


  

          



http://thesource.com/2016/03/31/afrika-bambaataa-accused-of-child-molestation/




50 YEAR OLD BRONX MAN ACCUSES AFRIKA BAMBAATAA OF CHILD MOLESTATION WHEN HE WAS A TEEN

KYLE EUSTICE MARCH 31, 2016

In his latest book, Impulse, Urges and Fantasies, former New York State Democratic Committee Member and author Ronald Savage claims he was molested by Hip Hop pioneer Afrika Bambaataa (who he says he disguised with a fake name) as a teenager.

While speaking with Shot97 host STAR, Savage provides a meticulous account of how the Universal Zulu Nation founder allegedly molested him by recounting details included in his book.

He claims the molestation began when he was around 13 or 14 years old. “I was a kid when this happened,” the 50-year-old author said. “I wanted to be down with the in-crowd, not really understanding that what Bambaataa was doing to me was molesting me. I knew it was wrong. I had these feelings that were like, ‘Yuck.'”

Savage claims he stayed quiet out of fear of what the Universal Zulu Nation would do to his family and because he was “ashamed.”

According to his official site, Savage is currently a judicial delegate in the 12th Judicial District in the Bronx. The single father of three is also a US Press Association journalist and author.

The Source has reached out to multiple parties to further investigate this story and we are awaiting a response at this time.

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First time I heard he molests dudes was at our old bar in the Bronx
Apr 01st 2016
1
sir..
Apr 01st 2016
2
LOFL. T ain't got no damn sense.
Apr 02nd 2016
51
      I respect it, man. Lol
Apr 02nd 2016
57
*mind blown*
Apr 01st 2016
23
breh
Apr 01st 2016
25
lol
Apr 02nd 2016
61
The Great Man-Monster ratio takes another hit, I see.
Apr 01st 2016
3
but yall dont hear me though:
Apr 01st 2016
8
It'll be interesting to see what comes out about Obama later.
Apr 01st 2016
9
      if he had dirt, "they" woulda found it by now
Apr 01st 2016
12
           It'll probably be other stuff, like how he interacted with his staff
Apr 01st 2016
14
cats still in denial about Mike Jackson
Apr 07th 2016
76
Bu bu but these new rappers are gay
Apr 01st 2016
4
they gay and garbage tho
Apr 01st 2016
5
      oh god...
Apr 01st 2016
29
      lol
Apr 01st 2016
31
      LMAO
Apr 01st 2016
32
      lol
Apr 01st 2016
33
      aYo
Apr 02nd 2016
56
It was the 70s.
Apr 01st 2016
6
damn
Apr 01st 2016
20
lol
Apr 01st 2016
22
damn.
Apr 01st 2016
26
that's what they said for Bowie *shrugz*
Apr 01st 2016
36
no snark, but that was kinda the joke
Apr 01st 2016
40
shit. snark away.
Apr 01st 2016
42
Exactly. It was a joke.
Apr 07th 2016
79
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7owe0cFTl1qhtknmo1_1280.png
Apr 08th 2016
89
I'm crying.
Apr 08th 2016
88
LOL til i cry
Apr 16th 2016
100
he was 13/14 not knowing that what was happening to him was molestation?
Apr 01st 2016
7
You can't molest a 14 year old girl?
Apr 01st 2016
11
i was questioning how a 14 year old doesn't know they're being molested
Apr 01st 2016
13
      Yeah, but what do you do?
Apr 01st 2016
16
      this is why minors are protected by law
Apr 01st 2016
21
           Yup. A lot of people forget this
Apr 02nd 2016
58
      Let's say he knew. What then? What's the next point?
Apr 01st 2016
41
yeah i don't get that either ... friggin 8 year olds know good touch bad...
Apr 01st 2016
15
Yo! WTH? Please tell me that this is not your logical angle?
Apr 01st 2016
17
?
Apr 01st 2016
19
log off fam lol.
Apr 01st 2016
18
basically
Apr 02nd 2016
52
Yes. FOREVA (c) Cardi B
Apr 06th 2016
69
Right? He was probably dressed like a slut to boot!
Apr 01st 2016
24
:(
Apr 01st 2016
27
Shouldn't have worn that sexy ass basketball jersey around him
Apr 01st 2016
28
damn it.
Apr 02nd 2016
53
nigga what???
Apr 01st 2016
30
We're not talking about a 14 year old girl though.
Apr 01st 2016
34
      Even if true, it's irrelevant
Apr 01st 2016
38
      wait, I can't tell if you're disagreeing with me or what...
Apr 01st 2016
43
           Its not confusing. I made one very clear argument.
Apr 01st 2016
44
           Does the 14 tear old have parents who love him?
Apr 01st 2016
45
                RE: Does the 14 tear old have parents who love him?
Apr 20th 2016
104
      You guys are fucking killing me
Apr 01st 2016
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      RE: You guys are fucking killing me
Apr 02nd 2016
49
           Your doubts about his perspective depend on his upbringing.
Apr 02nd 2016
50
      I hope you understand now having read all the replies because, man.....
Apr 02nd 2016
59
...
Apr 01st 2016
47
LOFL. lort this is perfect
Apr 02nd 2016
54
lol...shit
Apr 02nd 2016
55
LMBAO!
Apr 17th 2016
102
...
Apr 01st 2016
48
yall niggas telling on yourselves
Apr 08th 2016
90
:(
Apr 01st 2016
10
April Fools!
Apr 01st 2016
35
shit. I laughed. my bad.
Apr 01st 2016
37
I'm gonna need to let this one breathe a bit.
Apr 01st 2016
39
OK, i let it breath and it's starting to stink
Apr 07th 2016
74
Sighs
Apr 02nd 2016
60
Another one
Apr 06th 2016
62
the 3rd accuser will be interviewed by Star too LOL
Apr 06th 2016
63
ugh....
Apr 06th 2016
64
I keep feeling like I remember someone else calling in on Star's show......
Apr 07th 2016
75
Too much...
Apr 08th 2016
82
"Wow, we got Afrika Bambatta sucking our dick"
Apr 08th 2016
87
      I can't front, when I heard that, I guffawed.
Apr 17th 2016
101
he was about to buy BET.
Apr 06th 2016
65
lol
Apr 06th 2016
66
lol, smh
Apr 06th 2016
67
^^ This is the MJ Crying Face of References
Apr 06th 2016
70
Hahahahahahha
Apr 06th 2016
72
lol..just seeing this
Apr 07th 2016
80
i laughed out loud
Apr 08th 2016
84
I SAW THE CHECK NIGGA (c)
Apr 08th 2016
85
How does Emmis Communications not shutdown Shot97?
Apr 06th 2016
68
Yall dont remember when he got stabbed cuz he tried that stuff
Apr 06th 2016
71
Another accuser just touched on it in this vid (link)
Apr 07th 2016
73
      I better not hear any...oh he was about to buy out Columbia Records...
Apr 07th 2016
77
      geez...someone in the comment said "Bam Bottom"
Apr 07th 2016
78
           Lol
Apr 07th 2016
81
           fk man!!!!!!!! lmao
Apr 08th 2016
83
           just saw one that said bamdusky smh
Apr 19th 2016
103
the best part is Star pretending to be a serious journalist
Apr 08th 2016
86
this would explain Baby Bam + his drag pics
Apr 08th 2016
91
No it wouldn't.
Apr 09th 2016
92
Star is on a witch hunt. His whole page is dedicated to it lately
Apr 13th 2016
93
he's Bambatta's Mark Fuhrman
Apr 13th 2016
94
He is definitely trying to make this a come up.
Apr 13th 2016
95
A 'witch hunt' kinda implies that the accusations are false.
May 08th 2016
114
this is the biggest dick in the Zulu Nation
Apr 13th 2016
96
Brother Jay says Yuck!
Apr 14th 2016
97
what leaders? hip hop throws the elders to the curb
Apr 14th 2016
98
....
Apr 14th 2016
99
RE: No!.Afrika Bambaata child molester??? wow (swipe)
Apr 21st 2016
105
He's not trying to pay off accusers
Apr 21st 2016
106
Wasn't there a post about this almost 10 years ago on here?
May 04th 2016
107
Dropped by Zulu Nation and his bodyguard says he's a pedophile.
May 07th 2016
108
BAMBAATAA DISMISSED AS LEADER OF ZULU NATION
May 07th 2016
109
damn. probably overdue, but appropriate.
May 07th 2016
110
      Yah.
May 08th 2016
113
Shades of Malachi Z York here
May 07th 2016
111
bambatta was heavy into nuwabian shit too
May 07th 2016
112

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1. "First time I heard he molests dudes was at our old bar in the Bronx"
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made a post about it some years ago on here and dudes on OKP were even like "yeah that's old news"

I mean all that gang life shit. He was known as an enforcer for the Black Spades. Probably was running universal beatdowns on the bootyhole who knows

  

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2. "sir.."
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Probably was running universal beatdowns
>on the bootyhole who knows
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51. "LOFL. T ain't got no damn sense."
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he our best since Desus left. folk need to respect his art

  

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57. "I respect it, man. Lol "
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:( though

  

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23. "*mind blown*"
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25. "breh"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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3. "The Great Man-Monster ratio takes another hit, I see."
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8. "but yall dont hear me though:"
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=12651139&mesg_id=12651139&listing_type=search

  

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9. "It'll be interesting to see what comes out about Obama later."
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12. "if he had dirt, "they" woulda found it by now"
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i think alot of time & resources was dedicated to find find something to discredit him. if it was there, it woulda been came out by now...


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14. "It'll probably be other stuff, like how he interacted with his staff"
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or something non-criminal.

  

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76. "cats still in denial about Mike Jackson"
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4. "Bu bu but these new rappers are gay"
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5. "they gay and garbage tho"
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And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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LoL

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6. "It was the 70s."
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*shrug*

fuck you.

  

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J/k

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26. "damn."
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36. "that's what they said for Bowie *shrugz*"
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40. "no snark, but that was kinda the joke"
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42. "shit. snark away."
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79. "Exactly. It was a joke."
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fuck you.

  

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100. "LOL til i cry"
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7. "he was 13/14 not knowing that what was happening to him was molestation?"
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11. "You can't molest a 14 year old girl?"
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To be blunt, they aren't adults, probably aren't fucking, and someone like him is def. in a position of power to leverage them into doing some shit they they wouldn't do if they weren't coerced.

  

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13. "i was questioning how a 14 year old doesn't know they're being molested"
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i can understand a 4 year old feeling weird and being confused.

but if you 14 and you get touched, what's not to know? you should know that what's being done to you ain't cool.

that's what i was saying

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16. "Yeah, but what do you do?"
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>but if you 14 and you get touched, what's not to know? you
>should know that what's being done to you ain't cool.
>
>that's what i was saying

it's not cool, what are you gonna do? Its a grown man, you just gonna say 'No' and expect him to stop? It ain't gonna happen. You either scrapping and will probably lose because he's a grown man. Then you are gonna tell someone else and will deal with the consequences of other kids assuming you wanted it?

Also keep in mind that the confusion, etc.. is all a part of the grooming process. By the time you figure out whats happening it's too late.

Its just kind of easy to look at it as adults and be like, "WTF" not realizing that we were making fucked up decisions on the basics, like haircuts, when we were 13.

  

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21. "this is why minors are protected by law"
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and never underestimate what hold a person in power has on a young mind, ever.

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58. "Yup. A lot of people forget this"
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41. "Let's say he knew. What then? What's the next point? "
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If you follow that line of questioning and stay on that path you wind up in pretty dark territory. Save that shit for an attorney scrambling to keep his client out of 'federal fuck me in the ass prison'.

  

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15. "yeah i don't get that either ... friggin 8 year olds know good touch bad..."
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17. "Yo! WTH? Please tell me that this is not your logical angle?"
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19. "?"
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***
I'm tryna be better off, not better than...

  

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18. "log off fam lol."
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52. "basically"
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69. "Yes. FOREVA (c) Cardi B"
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nm

  

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24. "Right? He was probably dressed like a slut to boot!"
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27. ":("
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...cleaned up my act, made a few violent songs...but, they wack like Glen Rice with New Balance on - Sean Price

  

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28. "Shouldn't have worn that sexy ass basketball jersey around him"
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53. "damn it."
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30. "nigga what???"
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im not saying theres any truth to this guys allegations
but

damn is this how ppl view 14 yr old girls who get raped


i just dont understand this logic

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34. "We're not talking about a 14 year old girl though."
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We're talking about a 14 year old boy, I'm assuming straight, that is in the presence of a 21-22 year old dude who whips out his dick and says "it ain't gonna suck itself nigga...".

I can't fathom not understanding that this was flat out wrong at 13 or 14, even in the 70's.


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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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38. "Even if true, it's irrelevant "
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It’s an entirely immaterial detail.

If he were on a witness stand, it’s a fair- if uncomfortable- question for AB’s defense attorney, most of whom I’m guessing would avoid that tact because it really has littleto do with whether or not what he said happened actually happened.

Other than that? Nah.

Doesn’t matter.
Let’s say he knew. Let’s say he knew what was going down.
He was still a kid.

Still in the presence of a man and a presumably powerful one at
that.

Let’s say he not only knew, but was an eager and active participant.
HELL. Let’s say he initiated the entire thing and AB just couldn’t resist the charms of this 14 year old kid.

Even in that improbable and gross scenario, it’s still wrong. Still illegal. Still predatory. AB is still the predator and if you’re feeling VERY generous, a predator who may not have been hiding in the bushes at the moment but damn sure took the opportunity.

Male or female, makes no difference.

  

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43. "wait, I can't tell if you're disagreeing with me or what..."
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>It’s an entirely immaterial detail.
>
>If he were on a witness stand, it’s a fair- if
>uncomfortable- question for AB’s defense attorney, most of
>whom I’m guessing would avoid that tact because it really
>has littleto do with whether or not what he said happened
>actually happened.
>
>Other than that? Nah.
>
>Doesn’t matter.
>Let’s say he knew. Let’s say he knew what was going down.
>
>He was still a kid.
>
>Still in the presence of a man and a presumably powerful one
>at
>that.
>
>Let’s say he not only knew, but was an eager and active
>participant.
>HELL. Let’s say he initiated the entire thing and AB just
>couldn’t resist the charms of this 14 year old kid.
>
>Even in that improbable and gross scenario, it’s still
>wrong. Still illegal. Still predatory. AB is still the
>predator and if you’re feeling VERY generous, a predator who
>may not have been hiding in the bushes at the moment but damn
>sure took the opportunity.
>
>Male or female, makes no difference.


I'm saying that I can't see a 14 year old kid not understanding that it was wrong.

You're also saying that it's wrong but it's like you're arguing... something else.

I'm saying that it's wrong, and I don't believe that the guy who wrote it didn't understand that it was wrong when it happened. I believe he knew full well that it was wrong but went with it for whatever reason.

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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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44. "Its not confusing. I made one very clear argument. "
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Whether or not he knew it was wrong is 100% immaterial.

You drew the distinction that he wasn't a girl. That's also immaterial.

What matters is what did or didnt happen and i used those scenarios to illustrate as much.

  

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45. "Does the 14 tear old have parents who love him?"
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Molesters don't just randomly pick kids. They seek out vulnerable ones.

  

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104. "RE: Does the 14 tear old have parents who love him?"
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Thank you!!!!!! Why are you blaming a child in this matter?! He may have been 14 at the time, but he's still a child at that age!!!! Hell, I am pretty sure you were outrage when the kid in Ohio was shot down by cops and he had a toy gun. People actually tried to blame him...like he wasn't a kid. It's the same shit here. He's a kid! Doesn't matter if he knew better or he knew what was wrong...he was not the adult in this situation.

And pedophiles do groom kids. Even the naive 14 year olds.

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46. "You guys are fucking killing me"
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A secretary getting coerced to suck her bosses dick knows its "wrong" doesnt mean its not against her will.

Im confused at this scenario where a grown man corners a teenager and by the teen says "No" everyone walks away from the scenario happy and all good!

Im also VERY fucking disturbed at the gender aspect because it leads to a whole line of masculinity where "real men" don't get raped or sexual abused against their will.

  

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49. "RE: You guys are fucking killing me"
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>A secretary getting coerced to suck her bosses dick knows its
>"wrong" doesnt mean its not against her will.

no one is arguing that.

>
>Im confused at this scenario where a grown man corners a
>teenager and by the teen says "No" everyone walks away from
>the scenario happy and all good!

... or this...

>Im also VERY fucking disturbed at the gender aspect because it
>leads to a whole line of masculinity where "real men" don't
>get raped or sexual abused against their will.

I didn't bring the sexes into this, illEskoBar221 did by somehow making this about a 14 year old girl instead of the topic at hand.

The point that all of you are missing is that Ronald Savage makes the claim that "... not really understanding that what Bambaataa was doing to me was molesting me..."

He acknowledges that it was wrong, but I doubt he didn't know this was molestation... And just on wordplay he's technically right; it's not molestation, it's rape.

---------------------------

"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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50. "Your doubts about his perspective depend on his upbringing."
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If he doesn't come from a stable home than it's not surprising that he's not aware of proper boundaries. If you grow up in a good home than it creates a filter from which a young person can process whatever happens while they're growing up.

  

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59. "I hope you understand now having read all the replies because, man....."
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47. "..."
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54. "LOFL. lort this is perfect"
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55. "lol...shit"
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...cleaned up my act, made a few violent songs...but, they wack like Glen Rice with New Balance on - Sean Price

  

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102. "LMBAO!"
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Goddamn I literally cried laughin at dat shit.

Flawless timing and execution!






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48. "..."
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http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/08/05/article-2183990-14656760000005DC-850_306x423.jpg
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90. "yall niggas telling on yourselves "
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10. ":("
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35. "April Fools!"
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Hahahaha, so good.

  

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37. "shit. I laughed. my bad."
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39. "I'm gonna need to let this one breathe a bit."
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I don't know what motive dude would have for lying, but I'm also not ready to undo Bambaataa's work without hearing more. Gotta get more info. As with all molestation accusations i hope it isn't true.

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74. "OK, i let it breath and it's starting to stink"
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https://www.instagram.com/sbmission365/

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60. "Sighs"
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Taking shots in the dark/that's a bad call
Going straight for your head/ gotta saw it off

  

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62. "Another one "
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63. "the 3rd accuser will be interviewed by Star too LOL "
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64. "ugh...."
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Very likely there'll be more to come. And his innocence becomes less likely with each individual that comes forward.

  

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75. "I keep feeling like I remember someone else calling in on Star's show......"
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...a year or two ago saying that Bambaataa was a dirty dude.


Since 1976

  

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82. "Too much..."
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87. ""Wow, we got Afrika Bambatta sucking our dick""
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Tracy Morgan couldnt have written anything funnier

  

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101. "I can't front, when I heard that, I guffawed."
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65. "he was about to buy BET."
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66. "lol"
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67. "lol, smh"
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...cleaned up my act, made a few violent songs...but, they wack like Glen Rice with New Balance on - Sean Price

  

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70. "^^ This is the MJ Crying Face of References"
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It will always be funny.

  

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72. "Hahahahahahha"
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Well done

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80. "lol..just seeing this"
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84. "i laughed out loud"
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*******************************************************
i will not let finite disappointment undermine infinite hope
- Cory Booker

Football is a simple game; 22 men chase a ball for 90 minutes, and at the end the Germans always win
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85. "I SAW THE CHECK NIGGA (c)"
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________________________________________________

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68. "How does Emmis Communications not shutdown Shot97?"
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**********
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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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71. "Yall dont remember when he got stabbed cuz he tried that stuff"
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on someone that fought back in 2013?

https://twitter.com/allhiphopcom/status/324866603466498048

Quietly & quickly it got swept under the rug huh?

A charter OKP and longtime friend told me about a decade ago of a first hand story of AB TRYING to molest him when he was a minor. Fortunatly it didn't go down but not cuz AB didnt try

ya know what? the details were eerie similar to current scenario

star struck youth lured to AB's home on some hanging with hip hop royalty steeze

AB trying to feel his muscles and dude getting uneasy and a bad vibe and jetting

where their is smoke their is fire

hip hop should be ashamed for turning the blind eye all these years to the creep

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73. "Another accuser just touched on it in this vid (link)"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4leWJdiB-_8

It's a wrap for Bam at this point

  

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77. "I better not hear any...oh he was about to buy out Columbia Records..."
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...this is awful, man. I hope justice is served.

  

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78. "geez...someone in the comment said "Bam Bottom""
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81. "Lol"
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Since 1976

  

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83. "fk man!!!!!!!! lmao"
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103. "just saw one that said bamdusky smh"
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86. "the best part is Star pretending to be a serious journalist"
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it would be endless shits and giggles if he wasn't able to lock down these interviews

  

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91. "this would explain Baby Bam + his drag pics "
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Along with other mysterious issues involving some folks from the crew..

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92. "No it wouldn't."
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93. "Star is on a witch hunt. His whole page is dedicated to it lately"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uUzq__JTjo

  

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94. "he's Bambatta's Mark Fuhrman "
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95. "He is definitely trying to make this a come up. "
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114. "A 'witch hunt' kinda implies that the accusations are false."
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Unless you believe in witches....

  

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96. "this is the biggest dick in the Zulu Nation"
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this is the smallest dick in the Zulu Nation

the definition of hilarisad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6-6PQPXdJs

  

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97. "Brother Jay says Yuck!"
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Where is the "day out outrage" over this?

Hip hop is self destructing while the leaders silently sit by

F a MC Shan diss

Its speak on this deplorable scumbag

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1619 the 1st slaves are brought to American shores
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forced to serve-too broke to by freedom
the systematic rape of African culture has begun
little time

  

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98. "what leaders? hip hop throws the elders to the curb"
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and the only time they get shine is if there is a scandal or if they die/murdered.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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99. "...."
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Yuck!!!!-Pusha T.

You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.

  

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105. "RE: No!.Afrika Bambaata child molester??? wow (swipe)"
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I just saw Star's latest video. Now people are saying he's not a pedophile, he's gay. But he's trying to pay off a few of the accusers. And supposedly he apologized to one of his accusers.

This just fucks with me.

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106. "He's not trying to pay off accusers"
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Zulu members actingnon his behalf without his knowledge tried to pay him off and are issuing death threats to members that are defecting. It's not just TC Islam that got them, from what I gather.

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107. "Wasn't there a post about this almost 10 years ago on here?"
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108. "Dropped by Zulu Nation and his bodyguard says he's a pedophile. "
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Fuck this guy. He's done.

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109. " BAMBAATAA DISMISSED AS LEADER OF ZULU NATION"
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They defrocked him...
Gotta turn in the robes.


http://thesource.com/2016/05/06/africa-bambaataa-reportedly-dismissed-as-leader-of-universal-zulu-nation/

Though Bambaataa was never mentioned by name in the statement, the message is very clear, with the Zulu Nation stating that anyone who has been accused of and/or assisted in covering up the accusations have resigned on their own or have been dismissed.

Read the full statement below:

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN

Date: 6th May 2016
Universal Zulu Nation Official Statement: International and Regional US UZN Leaders, Universal Zulu Nation
The Universal Zulu Nation wishes to announce that it is currently under new leadership by the International and Regional U.S. Zulu Leaders. This will involve a significant restructure and will feature an in-depth re-assessment of how the organization will function to better serve our communities. As part of this restructure ALL accused parties and those accused of covering up the current allegations of child molestation have been removed and have stepped down from their current positions.

Over the coming months there will be significant changes to the organization in terms of roles, structure and establishing the policies any organization of our size should have in place. There shall also be a new move to work towards providing support for victims of abuse, rape and molestation and working more closely on other social issues existing in communities such as drug addiction, alcoholism and mental health.

We are saddened by current events. Not only because of the trial by social media of which we have been subjected to as an organization, but because until now the previous leaders and founders have been ineffective at being able to respond in a way which our members and associates deserve of us. Especially when our good work spreading the Zulu message has empowered communities worldwide. We would like to offer our sincere apologies for this.

As an organization we are in a very difficult position because we are being asked to condemn one of our founders based on testimony through social media alone. We cannot do this. We also cannot dismiss the comments of parties asserting they have been harmed. We have a duty to search for truth. We also need to be mindful that if these allegations are true that victims discussing this in a public forum has not come easily. We the Universal Zulu Nation wish to extend great sympathy to anyone affected by such issues. We know that respect and compassion need to be at the forefront of how we deal with such topics in the future, this has been a lesson in learning for us.

The public is asking for justice and we would welcome constructive suggestions on how that could be effectuated properly. At the moment it is unclear on how best to proceed, we would like to know how the claimants would like to take the matters further towards some form of resolution where the truth can be established. We can not legally speak on behalf of the parties in question in regard to the current allegations. Individuals must speak up for themselves & advice from their legal teams should be sought.

Our restructure is a positive step towards organizational change for our worldwide family of members and the great community programs they continually run which spread the message of Peace, Love, Unity and Having Fun.
To communicate with us during this time of transition please email us at info@universalzulunation.global
Peace
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Universal Zulu Nation
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110. "damn. probably overdue, but appropriate. "
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113. "Yah."
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That might be the best wording I have ever seen for a public statement involving a situation like this. And it doesn't come off like a formulaic, cookie-cutter PR statement. Whoever wrote this really took the time to hit the right notes.

They don't address the initial statement made when these accusations first surfaced. That shit was absolutely disgusting and made me sick to my stomach. Perhaps they could have added an apology for or acknowledgement of that....but I'd guess whoever wrote it is amongst the individuals that they've since parted ways with.

But taken on it's own...you really can't do better than this.

  

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111. "Shades of Malachi Z York here"
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York was duly tried and convicted in federal court
but it all started with whispers and rumors just like now
both were/are leaders of organizations with a large following
Not saying Bambaattaa did the same shit York did
but any man accused of touching children: life over
just the accusation is enough

  

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112. "bambatta was heavy into nuwabian shit too "
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