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"Sean 'Diddy' Combs Launches Harlem Charter School"


  

          

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/sean-diddy-combs-launches-harlem-charter-school-20160328

Sean 'Diddy' Combs Launches Harlem Charter School
Rapper and mogul's latest venture has been in works for five years

BY BRITTANY SPANOS March 28, 2016

Sean 'Diddy' Combs has announced a new venture: a charter school in East Harlem
According to the Associated Press, Combs' new school, Capital Preparatory Harlem Charter School, will open this fall. The founder of Capital Prep Magnet School in Hartford, Connecticut, Dr. Steve Perry, will oversee the school while Orlando, Florida-based educator Danita Jones will be its inaugural principal. Combs has described this opportunity as "a dream come true."

Combs began working towards the launch of a school in 2011, having spent years searching for the best education model before discovering Perry's Capital Prep program. Combs and Perry have been privately meeting with community leaders and education experts to establish the program. The school's board includes Dr. Iyanla Vanzant, the author and spiritual life coach who has worked frequently with Oprah Winfrey, and Reverend Georgiette Morgan-Thomas.

According the school's official site, Capital Prep Harlem is a free, public school for grades 6-12. It will provide a "year-round, college preparatory education" and make college courses available to students once in high school. For its first year, 160 students will be enrolled in 6th and 7th grades. The deadline to apply for the upcoming school year is April 1st. Its board recently announced the location of the school, located on the museum mile stretch in East Harlem in the same building as El Museo Del Barrio and Museum of the City of New York.

In 2015, Diddy reportedly earned $60 million, thanks to wide range of investments, including Ciroc vodka, water brand AQUAhydrate, RevoltTV and clothing line Sean John. In the fall, he released the mixtape MMM and began developing a sitcom based on his former assistant called The Hustle.


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Steve Perry
Mar 28th 2016
1
why?
Mar 28th 2016
6
My opinion of Perry is that he's a self serving promotion artist.
Mar 28th 2016
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      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Mar 28th 2016
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      if the teachers are great and the kids excel, i don't care about any of ...
Mar 28th 2016
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      ^^^Yup. Everyone you see in the media is a self-promoter.
Mar 28th 2016
18
      so? if kids benefit, he can do whatever he wants
Mar 30th 2016
46
      How will the kids benefit?
Mar 30th 2016
47
      *salutes*
Mar 30th 2016
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Yeah let us know. First thing I did is look for the other names
Mar 28th 2016
9
I got bad news...
Mar 28th 2016
2
take that, take that...
Mar 28th 2016
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I just hope it's a success
Mar 28th 2016
4
i give him points for trying
Mar 28th 2016
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      yup...tryna be optimistic
Mar 28th 2016
15
The ultimate huckster enters the ultimate scam industry
Mar 28th 2016
5
RE: Sean 'Diddy' Combs Launches Harlem Charter School
Mar 28th 2016
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49 posts
Mar 28th 2016
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RE: 49 posts
Mar 28th 2016
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^^^^^^^^^^^^
Mar 28th 2016
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mannn....i was stoked about this until I saw Steve Perry
Mar 28th 2016
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Yeah, not here for schools/education being the place for venture
Mar 28th 2016
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i'm here for good education regardless of who's paying.
Mar 28th 2016
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      A venture capitalist is trying to get this paper tho via
Mar 28th 2016
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      you're missing the point entirely.
Mar 28th 2016
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           I think I just disagree w/ your point but I could be missing it too
Mar 28th 2016
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      What makes you think it's a good education, Puffy or Perry?
Mar 28th 2016
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           we don't know yet. but neither of them are the determining factor.
Mar 28th 2016
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                Good for Puff for seemingly giving a shit.
Mar 28th 2016
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                     RE: Good for Puff for seemingly giving a shit.
Mar 28th 2016
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                          meanwhile, during all of this "lets see what they do THIS time" real kid...
Mar 28th 2016
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                               ^
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                               i'm definitely not against scrutiny...so yeah.
Mar 30th 2016
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why is a celeb opening a school something worth celebrating?
Mar 28th 2016
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It's like when the dude who can't sing at all is on @ the Apollo
Mar 28th 2016
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Man yall are just waaay to cynical.
Mar 28th 2016
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      that's all great. but im speaking specifically about education and
Mar 28th 2016
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      Nothing against Puff, I hope he's a success too.
Mar 28th 2016
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why should we care if he is trying to better his community
Mar 28th 2016
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There isn't a single post in here of anyone complaining about that
Mar 28th 2016
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i think it's great that he's trying to better his community. could never...
Mar 28th 2016
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Education?
Mar 28th 2016
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Take that take that take that
Mar 28th 2016
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      Books?
Mar 28th 2016
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           Take that take that take that
Mar 28th 2016
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                Knowledge?
Mar 28th 2016
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                     Take that take that take that
Mar 28th 2016
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Jamil R. Ragland's perspective...
Mar 29th 2016
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oh, wow. so i guess i know what side of this argument i'm on, now.
Mar 30th 2016
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OUCH.
Mar 30th 2016
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not at all surprising
Mar 30th 2016
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it's been disturbingly more and more common in nonprofit/charter ed
Mar 30th 2016
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Thanks for this. L!
Mar 30th 2016
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sucks to find out perry is a p.o.s. - verdict BEEN in on diddy
Mar 30th 2016
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He's gonna sign your kid to a 360 deal.
Mar 30th 2016
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quick review on public education's current status
Mar 31st 2016
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all very important points.
Mar 31st 2016
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Cam
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1. "Steve Perry"
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No thanks

  

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thegodcam
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6. "why?"
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Cam
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11. "My opinion of Perry is that he's a self serving promotion artist."
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Mon Mar-28-16 12:44 PM by Cam

  

          

Education seems just to be a tool he uses for opportunist efforts.
As far as his Pedagogical methods and educational theories, I don't understand how he sets himself apart in being groundbreaking, unique, or a model of excellence.

He was a key part of Bill Cosby's team during the pound cake/sagging pants speaking tours. I've heard him address audiences of educators at three different events, in each he simply reflected the same respectability politics the Cos spouted, as keys to success, and inferred that teachers don't spend enough time with students--after-school and in the summer.

Perry's track record is also questionable to me, in terms of comparative education metrics. During the events I attended, he's claimed resounding success at his CT School, but a look at the numbers showed that the school didn't outperform other public majority black schools in the same City or Sate. He did celebrate a 100% graduation rate with 100% moving onto 4 year institutions stat. But I'm still skeptical of numbers like that, even the top IVY feeding preps have a couple kids in every class who don't move on traditionally. Let's also remember that charters have been known to kick their problem kids out, to not fuck up the numbers (Harlem Children's Zone).

Plus,
As far as Charters in Harlem, there are currently too many to count, a majority of them already performing very well, as are a lot of the public non-charters. Why would they choose the specific neighborhood when there are thousands of undeserved communities of color throughout the country, which would likely benefit from the celeb cache Puffy provides? Since Charters in NYC have the opportunity to make/raise big money, I'm immediately skeptical, thinking the choice is based upon business forecasting and celebrity attention.

But I'm willing to listen to the other side.

  

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13. "^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^"
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Mon Mar-28-16 12:29 PM by dapitts08

          

re: steve perry

the key to happiness is not being rich;
it's doing something arduous and
creating something of value and then
being able to reflect on the fruits of your labor

  

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17. "if the teachers are great and the kids excel, i don't care about any of ..."
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any attempt at giving kids a better shot in life should be applauded

what's that saying about broken clocks?

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18. "^^^Yup. Everyone you see in the media is a self-promoter. "
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Results are all that should matter.

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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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46. "so? if kids benefit, he can do whatever he wants"
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47. "How will the kids benefit?"
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48. "*salutes*"
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9. "Yeah let us know. First thing I did is look for the other names"
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besides Diddy associated with this to figure out how real this was.


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2. "I got bad news..."
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I'm shutting down the library

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3. "take that, take that..."
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4. "I just hope it's a success "
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7. "i give him points for trying"
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15. "yup...tryna be optimistic"
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5. "The ultimate huckster enters the ultimate scam industry"
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Sounds about right

  

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8. "RE: Sean 'Diddy' Combs Launches Harlem Charter School"
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Fuck everyone in this post. Y'all always complaining when celebs do shit oversees, and now when one of them does it in his own hood you still talk shit. This is good news. Let's celebrate at least the effort. Damn.

  

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50 now. So what. I do this lurk shit for real. This post just aggravated me enough to log in. *shoowsh*

  

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22. "^^^^^^^^^^^^"
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12. "mannn....i was stoked about this until I saw Steve Perry"
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ughhhhhhhhhhh :/

the key to happiness is not being rich;
it's doing something arduous and
creating something of value and then
being able to reflect on the fruits of your labor

  

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14. "Yeah, not here for schools/education being the place for venture"
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capitalists to get $$$.

Also, I get that poor/working class parents are really desperate for their kids to get the best education that gives them more choices than they had/have. They might choose this highly likely to be ain't shit ass school but I can't blame them b/c it's all so rigged & the choices so false.

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20. "i'm here for good education regardless of who's paying."
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if the school's administration and teaching staff are good, i don't see why it matter is if the money comes from the government (read: our tax dollars) or venture capitalists.

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23. "A venture capitalist is trying to get this paper tho via "
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privatization of education. In this instance, I think 1 of the things we gotta do is follow the money to see what stinks.

Further, whether a kid does/does not get a quality education is not top priority of venture capitalists...return on the investment is. Are they some vc that have good intentions, sure but most do not + schools should be beholden to communities, not a board of directors.

But yeah, you're a parent of Black kids so I'm not gonna be the one to critique your personal choices w/in a fucked up system. I am just more so talking about a rotten system turning education into a market for vc.


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27. "you're missing the point entirely."
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>privatization of education. In this instance, I think 1 of
>the things we gotta do is follow the money to see what
>stinks.

>Further, whether a kid does/does not get a quality education
>is not top priority of venture capitalists...return on the
>investment is. Are they some vc that have good intentions,
>sure but most do not + schools should be beholden to
>communities, not a board of directors.

no. the only thing schools SHOULD be doing is teaching, encouraging and empowering students. If that is done well (and that remains to be seen), then the rest of it is irrelevant.

Remember, any parent, at any time, has the right to homeschool their child. their ONLY responsibility under the law is to be able to prove that that child is learning the required materials via being tested. it doesn't matter how the parent makes a living, where or with whom that parent schools the child..etc. just that they LEARN.

therefore, if that is the true baseline requirement, that holds for any kind of school anywhere...are the kids learning and thriving: good school. if they aren't?: bad school. period.

>But yeah, you're a parent of Black kids so I'm not gonna be
>the one to critique your personal choices w/in a fucked up
>system. I am just more so talking about a rotten system
>turning education into a market for vc.

you're focused on the system (outside the classroom). i'm focusing on the actual education (inside the classroom). so we're not having the same conversation.

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37. "I think I just disagree w/ your point but I could be missing it too"
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>>privatization of education. In this instance, I think 1 of
>>the things we gotta do is follow the money to see what
>>stinks.
>
>>Further, whether a kid does/does not get a quality education
>>is not top priority of venture capitalists...return on the
>>investment is. Are they some vc that have good intentions,
>>sure but most do not + schools should be beholden to
>>communities, not a board of directors.
>
>no. the only thing schools SHOULD be doing is teaching,
>encouraging and empowering students. If that is done well
>(and that remains to be seen), then the rest of it is
>irrelevant.


Wait, so schools should not have to be held accountable to the people in the community it serves? Like, part of teaching, encouraging, & empowering students is letting them have a say in big decisions like this & allowing students to hold their school(s) accountable. They gotta be able to check the power structure.


>Remember, any parent, at any time, has the right to homeschool
>their child. their ONLY responsibility under the law is to be
>able to prove that that child is learning the required
>materials via being tested. it doesn't matter how the parent
>makes a living, where or with whom that parent schools the
>child..etc. just that they LEARN.

Ok, but we know most parents cannot home school b/c their time is money for basic survival necessities (i.e., food, water, shelter, clothing, etc.). It's not excuse making to note that some of us have choices on paper & irl while the lot of us only have them in theory.


>therefore, if that is the true baseline requirement, that
>holds for any kind of school anywhere...are the kids learning
>and thriving: good school. if they aren't?: bad school.
>period.

There is too much inequity in the U.S. to have cut & dry standards like this hold any water. Chicago & Philly & shit, Hartford (where Dr. Steve Perry built his school) have closed down schools that would likely meet your standard of a good school b/c the assumption is every charter/magnet school will have 100% graduation/college admittance rate. That's actually the generous analysis...I see this as a cheap money making scheme off the backs of poor/working class kids of color + their communities.


>>But yeah, you're a parent of Black kids so I'm not gonna be
>>the one to critique your personal choices w/in a fucked up
>>system. I am just more so talking about a rotten system
>>turning education into a market for vc.
>
>you're focused on the system (outside the classroom). i'm
>focusing on the actual education (inside the classroom). so
>we're not having the same conversation.
>

The 2 are intertwined tho. What happens ouside the classroom most definitely dictates what goes on inside of one especially when business people are running the school w/ their money (a lil city, state $$ as well). I would also push back that actual education even occurs in most classrooms but that's another post entirely lol.


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26. "What makes you think it's a good education, Puffy or Perry?"
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28. "we don't know yet. but neither of them are the determining factor."
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let's see what teachers they hire. let's see what those teaching methods are. let's see how the kids learn and thrive.

point being..

LET'S. SEE.

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35. "Good for Puff for seemingly giving a shit."
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But, Perry had a school in Connecticut, you can locate his performance record. There's nothing exceptional about it.

The listed chosen COO is a 28 year old MBA who did a short stint with TFA. Coupled with Perry's very strong anti-union positions, and practices at the school he ran in CT, the evidence presented shows that they'll clearly recruit young inexperienced TFA members who can be over worked (another reason why TFA teachers burn-out quickly).

How does taking away those community ties and union jobs help the community?

Also, there is not a single person involved, listed on the school's Charter, who is from, or lives in, El Barrio where the school is to be located. How are they poised to sync themselves with that specific community, to meet their particular challenges?
You don't think the neighborhood schools there, and wealth of existing Charters, who this Charter will divert funds from, have any worth while expertise?

  

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41. "RE: Good for Puff for seemingly giving a shit."
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>But, Perry had a school in Connecticut, you can locate his
>performance record. There's nothing exceptional about it.

as wonderful and exciting as "exceptional" is, its not really a requirement. The baseline (for any school) is that kids are reading, writing and learning at their grade level. As long as that is achieved, "exceptional" would be the cherry on top of that.

>The listed chosen COO is a 28 year old MBA who did a short
>stint with TFA. Coupled with Perry's very strong anti-union
>positions, and practices at the school he ran in CT, the
>evidence presented shows that they'll clearly recruit young
>inexperienced TFA members who can be over worked (another
>reason why TFA teachers burn-out quickly).

the evidence shows what they've already done. that's it. we still have to see what they'll do this time. at the end of the day, the true test is: how are the kids doing?

>How does taking away those community ties and union jobs help
>the community?

again, if that happens, that's not good. but we gotta see what they do. none of that means the school shouldn't open.

>Also, there is not a single person involved, listed on the
>school's Charter, who is from, or lives in, El Barrio where
>the school is to be located. How are they poised to sync
>themselves with that specific community, to meet their
>particular challenges?

possibly by hiring teachers and staff from the local neighborhood? again, we'll see.

>You don't think the neighborhood schools there, and wealth of
>existing Charters, who this Charter will divert funds from,
>have any worth while expertise?

oh i'm sure they do. But ultimately, the money follows the child (which is a good thing) and parents having more choice as to where to send their child to school is also a good thing. There are new kids being born every day so there will always be more than enough kids to fill any number of schools. and if existing schools are less crowded because there is another school in the area, that's a win-win.

See I tend to have a broad, holistic view of things. When your view is narrow, you will only see things in one particular, focused (read: biased) way. That's always easy to do. The hard thing to do is to think critically about things and not always rely on what you think you know. See what things actually are, then analyze them. See how they develop then analyze them.

Cuz the bottom line is:the school ain't even open yet lol

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42. "meanwhile, during all of this "lets see what they do THIS time" real kid..."
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are enrolled in the school and their futures depend on it. so i dont think it's at all out of bounds to take a strong critical look at what the leadership has done in the past and is currently doing. im sure nobody wants this school to fail, but when the stakes are this high, the scrutiny should be as well

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44. "^"
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50. "i'm definitely not against scrutiny...so yeah."
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19. "why is a celeb opening a school something worth celebrating?"
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im not against it or for it. i'm curious. i understand that a celeb investing time/money in a venture that won't necessarily earn them money is always interesting and usually something worth celebrating, but i'm not sure why w/o more information this is such a great thing.

f*ck it, im probably biased. lol

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21. "It's like when the dude who can't sing at all is on @ the Apollo"
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but he singing about Jesus so you clap real loud like you into it instead of booin him. You don't wanna be the Negro to get struck down or get the gas face from your peers for pointing out the obvious.

Fr tho, I think so many people put pressure on rich Black people to pool their $$$ + resources & use it to invest in poor/working class Black communities that ANY/ALL attempts (from Black men especially) gets the singing off key about Jesus handclap endorsement. Maybe, Sean asked the parents/kids in that community what is it that they need & want & they overwhelmingly said his school? I doubt it tho.

One has to be an asshole to be like, "stop right there Sean...you ain't about to build a school for the kids no one gives a damn about, not on my watch!"
I have a lifetime of experience being an asshole & disliked b/c I am a Scorpio so I have no problem sucking my teeth @ Sean, Steve, & the rest of em bullshit.

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38. "Man yall are just waaay to cynical. "
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I celebrate the idea of Puffy bringing resources to a community and school that might not otherwise be there.

As a board member to a non-profit, I get a half-staff just thinking about all the fundraising potential he would have for my org. He could easily raise millions for his school. Never mind the opportunity to inspire the kids.

Our non-profit has suffered compared to a similar non-profit in the space even though our results are vastly better than the other non-profit and it is mainly because the other non-profit has done a great job of cultivating celebrities and the great press and money that follows them.

Don't give in to the naysayers, this could be a huge positive for the community if Puffy see the commitment through.



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39. "that's all great. but im speaking specifically about education and "
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more specifically, the state of public education.

i'm not as educated on the NYC charter system as I am the Philly system, but if celebs and wealthy individuals made real investments into true public education, i wonder what type of results we'd see. i know the Zuckerberg/Newark donation is out there and the results left much to be desired, but many of these charter schools and celeb run operations do too.

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40. "Nothing against Puff, I hope he's a success too."
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I just don't see that happening with Perry.

Here's some anti-Perry propaganda, I was quickly able to find.
http://jonathanpelto.com/?s=steve+perry
http://www.buffalospree.com/Buffalo-Spree/November-2011/Education-2011-Take-this-book-and-shove-it/
http://edushyster.com/steve-perry-talks-to-white-people/

  

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24. "why should we care if he is trying to better his community"
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by opening a school in his old hood.

Shit I would have been happier if he took a million dollars and crammed it up a strippers ass in miami and watch her make change...

either way somebody gonna have something negative to say ....

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25. "There isn't a single post in here of anyone complaining about that"
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36. "i think it's great that he's trying to better his community. could never..."
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hate on that. i just wonder if this is the best route. i have issues w/ charter schools in general (not in every instance tho), so I'm always gonna wonder if finding productive ways to work directly w/ the school district would have been a better route.

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43. "Jamil R. Ragland's perspective..."
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https://jamstunna.wordpress.com/2016/03/29/the-harlem-shakedown/

"Put together a ruthless businessman and an education charlatan, and you have the perfect scheme to steal public money from parents who desperately want a better education for their children."

"I don’t know Diddy, but I do know Steve Perry. I was in his Upward Bound program from 2001-2003, where the claim originated that his program sent 100% of the students who enrolled to four year colleges. He achieved this feat by cherry-picking high achieving students, shunning students with academic or behavioral difficulties which could have jeopardized his golden statistic, and literally kicking students out of the program who he felt weren’t going to a four-year school, or dared to express interest in a different path. I know the students who were kicked out of his program, because they were my friends. I know the students who were pushed out of the original Capital Prep, because they were my neighbors. I know the teachers who used to work for him, such as Ebony Murphy-Root, an English teacher at the elite Thacher School in Ojai, CA, because we bonded over our experiences with him. Perry has been given so many passes by a corporate media machine looking for a black face to sell their agenda of school privatization, despite his comically inflated graduation rates and his abusive Twitter tirades. Even a cursory glance at the way he has conducted business during his time as an educator shows blatant disregard for the students, staff, and communities he claims to serve."

  

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45. "oh, wow. so i guess i know what side of this argument i'm on, now. "
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49. "OUCH."
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52. "it's been disturbingly more and more common in nonprofit/charter ed"
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i'll talk to people who run programs i used to work with a decade ago, and the population of students they serve now is totally different.

i've straight-up been told that they see the kids they used to serve (the kids i used to teach, the kids i know *made it*) as too risky. so they play in safer demographics and don't fuck with kids that have too many challenges. they want to be able to throw up those 100% for donors, corporate, media.

if we're being really real, we're going to need to keep a close eye on the cohort of administrators (especially the millenials stepping up now) that has been shaped by nclb, the charter movement, and the cutbacks from the recession. too many have questionable priorities/worldviews.

  

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54. "Thanks for this. L!"
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53. "sucks to find out perry is a p.o.s. - verdict BEEN in on diddy"
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FUCK charter schools tho, frfr

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55. "He's gonna sign your kid to a 360 deal. "
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56. "quick review on public education's current status"
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/diane-ravitch/education-in-crisis_b_9565124.html

Education in Crisis and the Threat of Privatization
03/29/2016

Diane Ravitch
Research Professor of Education, New York University; Author, ‘Reign of Error’

It has become conventional wisdom that “education is in crisis.” I have been asked about this question by many interviewers. They say something like: “Do you think American education is in crisis? What is the cause of the crisis?” And I answer, “Yes, there is a crisis, but it is not the one you have read about. The crisis in education today is an existential threat to the survival of public education. The threat comes from those who unfairly blame the school for social conditions, and then create a false narrative of failure. The real threat is privatization and the loss of a fundamental democratic institution.”

As we have seen again and again, the corporate education industry is eager to break into U.S. public education and turn it into a free marketplace, where they can monetize the schools and be assured of government subsidization. On the whole, these privatized institutions do not produce higher test scores than regular public schools, except for those that cherry-pick their students and exclude the neediest and lowest performing students. The promotion of privatization by philanthropies, by the U.S. Department of Education, by right-wing governors (and a few Democratic governors like Cuomo of New York and Malloy of Connecticut), by the hedge fund industry, and by a burgeoning education equities industry poses a danger to our democracy. In some communities, public schools verge on bankruptcy as charters drain their resources and their best students. Nationwide, charter schools have paved the way for vouchers by making “school choice” non-controversial.

Yes, education is in crisis. The profession of teaching is threatened by the financial powerhouse Teach for America, which sells the bizarre idea that amateurs are more successful than experienced teachers. TFA — and the belief in amateurism — has also facilitated the passage of legislation to strip teachers of basic rights to due process and of salaries tied to experience and credentials.

Education is in crisis because of the explosion of testing and the embrace by government of test scores as both the means and the end of education. The scores are treated as a measure of teacher effectiveness and school effectiveness, when they are in fact a measure of the family income of the students enrolled in the school. The worst consequence of the romance with standardized testing is that children are ranked, sorted, and assigned a value based on scores that are not necessarily scientific or objective. Children thus become instruments, tools, objects, rather than unique human beings, each with his or her own potential.

Education is in crisis because of the calculated effort to turn it into a business with a bottom line. Schools are closed and opened as though they were chain stores, not community institutions. Teachers are fired based on flawed measures. Disruption is considered a strategy rather than misguided and inhumane policy. Children and educators alike are simply data points, to be manipulated by economists, statisticians, entrepreneurs, and dabblers in policy.

Education has lost its way, lost its purpose, lost its definition. Where once it was about enlightening and empowering young minds with knowledge, exploring new worlds, learning about science and history, and unleashing the imagination of each child, it has become a scripted process of producing test scores that can supply data.

Education is in crisis. And we must organize to resist, to push back, to fight the mechanization of learning, and the standardization of children.

  

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