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John Forte
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" Poor people in car dependent cities "


          

How does that work? I remember 10-15 years ago, you could get a hooptie for $500-1000 to get you around. Now wages for the working poor are basically the same but that hooptie is $3000-5000.

  

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IF you are lucky. The South gouges people up the ass.
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I'm just now realizing how much shitty cars cost these days
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http://www.seeing-stars.com/Locations/Crash/BusStreet1.jpg
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they make it work.
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I got a hard time believing more than half of those even run
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      Could be.
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I lived this, in a town with ZERO public transit.
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I'm thinking basic shit like getting groceries has to be an ordeal
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      Oh it is.
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Its a helluva challenge. Upfront cost isn't even the worst
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RE: Its a helluva challenge. Upfront cost isn't even the worst
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RE: Poor people in car dependent cities
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Two of those look decent
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RE: Two of those look decent
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repairs to pass inspection can be cheap
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Lol @ Lawndale or SGV
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I don't know where you live but a hooptie is still $500-$1000
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yo my dude got a car through the Africans for $500 in NYC
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i wish folks would couple transportation costs along with housing
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^ this.
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the bus system in LA is the worst, poor people just make do
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you can get a hootie for a g or less in LA..
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Never understood this myself. Like how does one get on their feet?
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Far from poor, but I've been in L.A. without a car for 3 months.
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I dunno...
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No we disagree with JF's math, that's all.
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Babymomma tax returns
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      U know what? U rite.
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Dr Claw
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1. "IF you are lucky. The South gouges people up the ass."
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your best bet is to get one from an open auction or something.

  

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John Forte
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6. "I'm just now realizing how much shitty cars cost these days"
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T Reynolds
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2. "http://www.seeing-stars.com/Locations/Crash/BusStreet1.jpg"
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http://www.seeing-stars.com/Locations/Crash/BusStreet1.jpg

  

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SoWhat
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3. "they make it work."
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http://www.iseecars.com/used-cars/used-cars-under-1000

^ and this is just one simple online search. if i roll through any of the several shady-looking used car dealers in any given car-dependent city i can probably find a car for less than $3000.

fuck you.

  

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veritas
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10. "I got a hard time believing more than half of those even run"
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i still blame hip-hop.

  

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15. "Could be."
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fuck you.

  

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Sepia.
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4. "I lived this, in a town with ZERO public transit."
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No buses. Not even a lot of taxies.

Some folks had barely working cars to get back and forth. And many people
carpooled with coworkers or paid someone what they could to take them to work.
If they couldn't afford that, they walked. And they walked a LONG way.

Also, when I was younger, people rode bikes a lot more. Grown people, I mean.
That fell off in the mid 90s. Or maybe they still did, but I didn't see it as often
once we moved out of the projects.

But I've noticed a LOT more people riding bikes and walking to work now.
And here, the projects are so far from everything else, if you have to walk
to work, you're basically having to walk at least an hour.

Folks just do what they have to do. It sucks, but that's life.
And that's one reason I don't let anyone drive my car. Ever. It's my life line here.

  

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John Forte
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9. " I'm thinking basic shit like getting groceries has to be an ordeal "
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There probably aren't too many walkable places that have zero mass transit.

  

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28. "Oh it is."
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Grocery shopping is hell. Going to the laundromat is hell. Making appointments is hell.

Well, being poor is hell though.

  

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veritas
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5. "Its a helluva challenge. Upfront cost isn't even the worst"
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Chances are if you're buying a beater it's gonna need a water pump or an alternator or tires or whatever before too long.

When you're barely making it check to check that becomes brutal, especially if you can't do it yourself or don't know someone who can.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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17. "RE: Its a helluva challenge. Upfront cost isn't even the worst"
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>Chances are if you're buying a beater it's gonna need a water
>pump or an alternator or tires or whatever before too long.
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>When you're barely making it check to check that becomes
>brutal, especially if you can't do it yourself or don't know
>someone who can.

Then you learn to do it. Reason I can work on cars now is 'cause I was broke as hell and had a car that needed work. Couldn't afford a mechanic so I picked up a Chilton guide on my ride Murray's and did it myself.

Used tires and junkyard parts kept me rollin for a long ass time.

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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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7. "RE: Poor people in car dependent cities "
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hoopties are still incredibly easy to find kid..

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/cto/5503408891.html

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/cto/5503362103.html

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cto/5484154090.html

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/ant/cto/5499881392.html

I mean you have the entire 90s to mine from now....

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John Forte
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13. "Two of those look decent"
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One is a complete junker that won't pass inspection, another is basically telling you the transmission is about to go.

  

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14. "RE: Two of those look decent"
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yea for sure...

but you know... poor ppl fix shit too

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18. "repairs to pass inspection can be cheap"
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typically it comes down to an O2 sensor, basic tune up, or something of the sort. O2 sensor on a Corolla ain't shit but $15-$20 and doesn't take too long to put in. A basic plug and wires tune up can be done for cheap and handled within 15 minutes. Only time it gets expensive is if it has a massive exhaust problem.

If the shit still doesn't pass there are cheap ways to cheat too.


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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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26. "Lol @ Lawndale or SGV"
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that joint ain't going to make it to Lawndale.

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8. "I don't know where you live but a hooptie is still $500-$1000"
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Metro Detroit is VERY car dependent, but you can still cop a bucket for cheap from CL.

Same in PHX, car dependent city and you can cop a bucket for the low, but you gotta watch it; a lot of cheap cars out this way have blown head gaskets. That's a really common problem with cars of any age out here.

Plus, here and in Detroit everybody got somebody in their neighborhood that works on cars so repairs are reasonable.

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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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12. "yo my dude got a car through the Africans for $500 in NYC"
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I didn't think shit like that was still possible in America

  

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11. "i wish folks would couple transportation costs along with housing"
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when discussing affordability. like here in Atlanta, the housing's cheap (consistently in the top 10 of major metros), but when coupled with transportation costs, we drop to the bottom six.

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21. "^ this."
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I'd throw in commute time as well (even though it's not a direct cost), because several more hours out of the day can make a huge difference.

  

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16. "the bus system in LA is the worst, poor people just make do"
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it takes a whole other level of organization if you're trying to get somewhere on time, accounting for any sort of issue that can arise

  

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19. "you can get a hootie for a g or less in LA.. "
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you have to know where to look and what issues to look for

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20. "Never understood this myself. Like how does one get on their feet?"
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Like if a dude's broke w/no job & no whip, it seems like it would be ridiculously difficult to get up and running.

Need a car to get to a job, but need a job to get money to get a car.


Riding the train/bus/trolley/bicycle seems much easier to deal with when one has no money.

  

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22. "Far from poor, but I've been in L.A. without a car for 3 months. "
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Not that bad at all.

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23. "I dunno..."
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... feels like folks are maybe being too dismissive of how high a mountain this is to climb. If you can barely eat, pay your rent, where is the $1K coming from to buy said hooptie? That's the problem with homelessness a lot of times, people/families can't cobble together the downpayment to get a place...

  

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24. "No we disagree with JF's math, that's all."
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fuck you.

  

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25. "Babymomma tax returns"
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John Forte
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27. "U know what? U rite. "
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