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"Umm...Hillary stans, this email shit ain't going away..."


          

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It' won't, but doesn't mean there are merits to the charges.
Feb 08th 2016
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They would also invent a "scandal" for Bernie Sanders or (lol) Joe Biden...
Feb 08th 2016
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prolly, but at the moment...
Feb 08th 2016
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      At the moment nobody seems to care.
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           media cares because of the 22 labeled classified
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                Labeled classified looong after the fact.
Feb 08th 2016
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                RE: media cares because of the 22 labeled classified
Feb 08th 2016
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                     that's bullshit tho...
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                          RE: that's bullshit tho...
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nobody care dawg
Feb 08th 2016
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nobody cares and it wasn't illegal
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don't nobody care.
Feb 08th 2016
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I'm voting for the Democrat...
Feb 08th 2016
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LMAO.. we are all voting for the Democrat
Feb 08th 2016
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      RE: LMAO.. we are all voting for the Democrat
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           burned at the stake? Gotdamn you are so sensitive
Feb 08th 2016
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                RE: burned at the stake? Gotdamn you are so sensitive
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                     huh? why would this be about anything BUT the low info voter?
Feb 08th 2016
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                          RE: huh? why would thus about anything BUT the low info voter?
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                               RE: huh? why would thus about anything BUT the low info voter?
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                                    RE: huh? why would thus about anything BUT the low info voter?
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THEY HAD A 14 HOUR HEARING OVER THIS ALREADY.....
Feb 08th 2016
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22 classified emails kinda opened it back up
Feb 08th 2016
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After Whitewater I can't take any Clinton Investigation that seriously.
Feb 08th 2016
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RE: After Whitewater I can't take any Clinton Investigation that serious...
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      you swear you are an expert at this shit...lol
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      RE: you swear you are an expert at this shit...lol
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           who the fuck doesnt know they been after the Clintons for 30 years?
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                RE: who the fuck doesnt know they been after the Clintons for 30 years?
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                     ok, you are a Hill bot.
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                          RE: ok, you are a Hill bot.
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      Lol, lil boy I'm old enough that I actually voted for BILL Clinton both....
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           RE: Lol, lil boy I'm old enough that I actually voted for BILL Clinton b...
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the people who care about this already hate her
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LOL, if you read the link it does make an interesting point that contras...
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      they have a separate system for that
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      RE: they have a separate system for that
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           This is politics dogg. It's gonna get dirty...
Feb 08th 2016
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                RE: This is politics dogg. It's gonna get dirty...
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                RE: I'm even spinning it to her winning the D nomination
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                RE: I'm even spinning it to her winning the D nomination
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                IMO its better to get the dirt out NOW
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      you know more than one personworks for the Washington Post, right?
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      Ahh.. i see. you were on the fence, but then you read the article
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           I'd much rather talk about what happened in Iowa
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                Another thing that has nothimg to do with what i said?
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                RE: I'd much rather talk about what happened in Iowa
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                     or maybe you're not that good at math/probabilities/statistics
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                          RE: or maybe you're not that good at math/probabilities/statistics
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lol at the term: ' (insert politician) stan'
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RE: lol at the term: ' (insert politician) stan'
Feb 08th 2016
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Politics aside...if she had TS on a unclassified machine
Feb 08th 2016
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No damn way she is going to jail
Feb 08th 2016
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Crazier things have happened....(SWIPE)
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The assertion is not that she had top secret info on a private machine.
Feb 08th 2016
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      RE: The assertion IS that she had top secret info on a private machine.
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           RE: The assertion IS that she had top secret info on a private machine.
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           RE: the back pedal, noted
Feb 08th 2016
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                RE: the back pedal, noted
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                     The FBI's involvement doesn't mean there's anything to the case, though.
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                     RE: The FBI's involvement doesn't mean there's anything to the case, tho...
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                     you DO realize that Hillary actually accepted responsibility for the...
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                          RE: you DO realize that Hillary actually accepted responsibility for the...
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                               lol, dude you're actually starting to sound like Hillary...
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                                    RE: lol, dude you're actually starting to sound like Hillary...
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                                         You should be dizzy from all the spinning you're doing, bottom line, wha...
Feb 09th 2016
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                                              RE: You should be dizzy from all the spinning you're doing, bottom line,...
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                                                   Once you're done spinning can you refute anything I said in post #67?
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           we already established you have no idea what you're talking about
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1. "It' won't, but doesn't mean there are merits to the charges. "
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2. "They would also invent a "scandal" for Bernie Sanders or (lol) Joe Biden..."
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and they would be less prepared for it.

  

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3. "prolly, but at the moment..."
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5. "At the moment nobody seems to care. "
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And rightly so.

  

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14. "media cares because of the 22 labeled classified"
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but yes, Hillary voters don't care.

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16. "Labeled classified looong after the fact. "
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In the same way that Colin Powell's private emails were labeled classified long after the fact. And he also says there was no plausible reason to classify them.

I'm other words, she did absolutely nothing wrong. It's a made-up scandal. It means nothing.

Those of us who aren't reflexively anti-Hillary are used to this.

  

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17. "RE: media cares because of the 22 labeled classified"
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>but yes, Hillary voters don't care.


It's going to be interesting to see if the media cares about Rice and Powell's classified emails/messages....

Gon' be interesting....

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20. "that's bullshit tho..."
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why it gotta be the negro's on front street?

seems kind of shady.

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22. "RE: that's bullshit tho..."
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>why it gotta be the negro's on front street?
>
>seems kind of shady.


Man...cut it out...lol....The classified email shit is touching EVERYBODY before they put the new rules in...

This is what I'm talking about....U gotta know the whole story....Powell, Condi and Hill Dawg got swept up in this because the rules for private emails and private computers were very foggy at that time...Once Kerry took over, they changed the rule all together....

U see what I'm getting at?

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4. "nobody care dawg"
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6. "nobody cares and it wasn't illegal"
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so they can't impeach her.

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7. "don't nobody care."
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fuck you.

  

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8. "I'm voting for the Democrat..."
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Bernie or Hill Dawg...Fuck Repugs....

The usual suspects though in this here thread?....That He-Man Woman Hater's club is LIT....

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9. "LMAO.. we are all voting for the Democrat"
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15. "RE: LMAO.. we are all voting for the Democrat"
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Mon Feb-08-16 01:35 PM by murph71

          

Nigga....U and Truth sound like y'all ready to burn Hill Dawg to the stake....lol

I'm judging y'all on your posts so maybe y'all r just trolling...But it don't sound like u guys have any intention on backing Clinton if she won the nomination...

And on the real, no one should ever claim to be the authority on politics. But I get a bit frustrated with folks that don't seem to know how to separate an OP-ED piece from a just-the-facts news piece.....

Y'all party on though....At this point I would dig up the corpse of Gore to beat Trump, Cruz and crew....And that mufucka ain't even dead yet.....

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19. "burned at the stake? Gotdamn you are so sensitive"
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when it comes to Hillary

>Nigga....U and Truth sound like y'all ready to burn Hill
>Dawg to the stake....lol

based on what? what post have I made that would make you say something so sensational?
>
>I'm judging y'all on your posts so maybe y'all r just
>trolling...But it don't sound like u guys have any intention
>on backing Clinton if she won the nomination...

Why? because I don't think she is a good politician and think she will lose? Why would I not vote for her over a republican?

>
>And on the real, no one should ever claim to be the authority
>on politics. But I get a bit frustrated with folks that don't
>seem to know how to separate an OP-ED piece from a
>just-the-facts news piece.....
>
>Y'all party on though....At this point I would dig up the
>corpse of Gore to beat Trump, Cruz and crew....And that
>mufucka ain't even dead yet.....

it's not a party, just talking a little politics. You seem to really go hard anytime someone doesn't carry that Clinton water tho.

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21. "RE: burned at the stake? Gotdamn you are so sensitive"
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Nah man....When I see dudes on some "LYING BITCH" kick (Truth's words, not mine...) I SEE it...The types of words we choose to use matter, dog...

Also, it helps to have some sense of history about ANY candidate. The same way I will debate someone implying that Bernie is on some Communist kick (people actually believe socialism = communism...nuts) I'm going to debate someone on that bullshit about Clinton...

Like on the real. U guys are posting like u on the Breitbart site on something.......If u wanna say that the Clinton email shit is an issue because we have low information voters who will believe anything AND Clinton hasn't helped herself with not getting out in front of this sooner enough, that's a discussion worth having....

But I haven't been seeing that from u two (especially the homie Truth...)...

Just saying, dog...

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33. "huh? why would this be about anything BUT the low info voter?"
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everyone else is already in their camps and aren't going to change regardless of the info presented.

I feel like you really think there are a lot of people chest high in political discussion.

most people aren't researching and making informed decisions.

as far as truth calling her a bitch, wtf that got to do with me?

stop being lazy

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37. "RE: huh? why would thus about anything BUT the low info voter?"
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>
>everyone else is already in their camps and aren't going to
>change regardless of the info presented.


Dog...if the FBI was ready to put Clinton's ass in jail or came out with info about how she KNOWINGLY handled classified into, then yeah....Shit would change....


>I feel like you really think there are a lot of people chest
>high in political discussion.

If someone post an Op Ed piece as if it's gospel and if that someone has a history of saying some pretty wild shit about a female candidate (and females in general), then yeah...I'm going to think that that person is ANKLE HIGH in political discussion....


>most people aren't researching and making informed decisions.

Yep...hence LOW INFO voters....It doesn't take being a political junkie or some expert to know some things...Its not that hard, dog...Most people dialed in r not on sites every day researching this shit...lol...They just know that the Repubs have been going HARD on the Clintons for over two decades.....

>as far as truth calling her a bitch, wtf that got to do with
>me?

Because u don't get where HE is coming from....lol...And by co-signing this post it's giving off some smoke given our past debates on misogyny and such....

>stop being lazy


See up top....

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39. "RE: huh? why would thus about anything BUT the low info voter?"
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>>
>>everyone else is already in their camps and aren't going to
>>change regardless of the info presented.
>
>
>Dog...if the FBI was ready to put Clinton's ass in jail or
>came out with info about how she KNOWINGLY handled classified
>into, then yeah....Shit would change....
>

I don't think its FBI levels, just something that will stay in the news and make Hillary look like a liar and perception is reality in politics

>>I feel like you really think there are a lot of people chest
>>high in political discussion.
>
>If someone post an Op Ed piece as if it's gospel and if that
>someone has a history of saying some pretty wild shit about a
>female candidate (and females in general), then yeah...I'm
>going to think that that person is ANKLE HIGH in political
>discussion....
why? it doesn't take much to copy and paste an article.
>
>>most people aren't researching and making informed
>decisions.
>
>Yep...hence LOW INFO voters....It doesn't take being a
>political junkie or some expert to know some things...Its not
>that hard, dog...Most people dialed in r not on sites every
>day researching this shit...lol...They just know that the
>Repubs have been going HARD on the Clintons for over two
>decades.....

everyone knows the GOP hates the Clintons. Why do you keep repeating it like it's new info?
>
>>as far as truth calling her a bitch, wtf that got to do with
>>me?
>
>Because u don't get where HE is coming from....lol...And by
>co-signing this post it's giving off some smoke given our past
>debates on misogyny and such....

nah, that's you insecurities anytime someone says something bad about Hillary you pull from the misogyny grab bag. It reminds me of Hillary voters saying if you don't vote for Hillary you hate women. Nice try, Do better...

Funny how you hate when people say you hate women If you don't vote for Hillary but you are doing the same thing with people who will vote for her but are just pointing out her flaws.

Hillary is old school establishment with some pretty fucked up marks on her resume.

FOH at calling it misogyny. That woman went racial on Obama. Fuck her! (but I will still hold my nose and vote of she wins the nom)


>
>>stop being lazy
>
>
>See up top....

nah, I see it all day with your personal attacks anytime someone doesn't carry that Clinton water

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43. "RE: huh? why would thus about anything BUT the low info voter?"
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>>>
>>>everyone else is already in their camps and aren't going to
>>>change regardless of the info presented.
>>
>>
>>Dog...if the FBI was ready to put Clinton's ass in jail or
>>came out with info about how she KNOWINGLY handled
>classified
>>into, then yeah....Shit would change....
>>
>
>I don't think its FBI levels, just something that will stay in
>the news and make Hillary look like a liar and perception is
>reality in politics




It's hitting FBI levels now...THE FBI IS LOOKING INTO THE EMAILS NOW...They are investigating.....That's why Powell's and Condi's name came up as well....U know that, right?


>>>I feel like you really think there are a lot of people
>chest
>>>high in political discussion.
>>
>>If someone post an Op Ed piece as if it's gospel and if that
>>someone has a history of saying some pretty wild shit about
>a
>>female candidate (and females in general), then yeah...I'm
>>going to think that that person is ANKLE HIGH in political
>>discussion....
>why? it doesn't take much to copy and paste an article.
>>
>>>most people aren't researching and making informed
>>decisions.
>>
>>Yep...hence LOW INFO voters....It doesn't take being a
>>political junkie or some expert to know some things...Its
>not
>>that hard, dog...Most people dialed in r not on sites every
>>day researching this shit...lol...They just know that the
>>Repubs have been going HARD on the Clintons for over two
>>decades.....

>everyone knows the GOP hates the Clintons. Why do you keep
>repeating it like it's new info?


Because u not putting TWO AND TWO together....That's why someone else in this very post said it's hard to take the email story seriously. The same way it was hard to take Benghazi seriously...Or Whitewater seriously....That's why it's best not to get too high or too low when it comes to the Clinton email story...The only thing we should be paying attention to is what the FBI has to say in their investigation of the entire emailing process beyond Clinton...

If u can find new info from an Op Ed, that's good. But take it with a grain of salt. Because it's an editorial, not a straight written journalistic piece...

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10. "THEY HAD A 14 HOUR HEARING OVER THIS ALREADY....."
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,,, AND NOTHING CAME UP.

14 HOURS of taxpayer money spent on a hearing to assassinate the character of a Presidential candidate is wasteful government spending.

  

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12. "22 classified emails kinda opened it back up"
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and I love how Clinton said the "release them" to the public knowing damn well we can't release classified emails.

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11. "After Whitewater I can't take any Clinton Investigation that seriously. "
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How much they spend on that? How many years? And what they find? A blue dress much in need of dry cleaning?!?!?

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18. "RE: After Whitewater I can't take any Clinton Investigation that serious..."
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This is what happens when u get the "Bros" involved in political discussions...There's no nuance...No sense of history....Just SEE, SEE...LOOK AT THIS!!!!...They treat politics like it's a Golden State vs. Cleveland matchup...lol

I see it on both sides, too....I see it with the Hill-Bots (got into an online argument with some chick about how Clinton needs to tell her surrogates to sit down with all that "If u ain't voting for Hill Dawg as a woman, u a Traitor!!!!".....If Clinton is going to win let it be on the issues and such.....But not on some feminist GUILT bullshit )

But yeah....some DUDES don't quite understand how long the Repubs have been rabbit hunting Clinton....That's why, if u know history and r up on game, this email shit, as crazy and dangerous to her campaign as it seems to be, is still side-eye worthy....

Drag in the latest Powell/Condi news and shit gets murkier....

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23. "you swear you are an expert at this shit...lol"
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26. "RE: you swear you are an expert at this shit...lol"
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Nah nigga....I've just read a little bit more on this subject....I've written some on the subject...I've covered politicians for various outlets....So I try not to walk into situations not knowing shit...lol

U the one going on about Clinton's emails without knowing the history of Repubs going in on ol' girl and her ol' man....U the one co-signing Truth's post without pointing out that it was an Op Ed piece....

If u think Clinton is a crook/shady, that's all good....But at least understand the history of this shit before u get all Chicken Little on me....

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36. "who the fuck doesnt know they been after the Clintons for 30 years?"
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that's part of the reason some of us are skeptical of Hillary.

She couldn't beat Obama and is he is loved and hated by GOP and Dems.

I think a lot of Dems will stay home if she wins the nomination.

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45. "RE: who the fuck doesnt know they been after the Clintons for 30 years?"
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U by the looks of things...lol

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48. "ok, you are a Hill bot. "
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gotta be yo.

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49. "RE: ok, you are a Hill bot. "
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>gotta be yo.


Nope...I'm giving a Middle Finger to them Right Wing Talking Points being juggled by people that should know better....

Told u...I'm the same way with Hill-Bots on the other side kicking that BERNIE A COMMUNIST bullshit...

It's all the same to me....

Not that complex....

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50. "Lol, lil boy I'm old enough that I actually voted for BILL Clinton both...."
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times so FOH talking about who does and doesn't know their history. I'm quite familiar with his AND her history, I was actually active duty military for the majority his 2 terms.

And yes I called her a lying ass bitch because that's exactly what she is. It's comical how she tries to co-opt and claim all the positives of her husband's administration (and Obama's) and distance herself from the negative. That's all she can do because she's accomplished NOTHING positive on her own as a senator or SOS.

I also remember all the low key racist shit they BOTH tried during the 2008 presidential primaries.

I remember how Hillary went into hiding and sacrificed the career of a BLACK woman to cover her own political ass when was caught sleeping at wheel as SOS when the Benghazi shit went down.

If she wins the democratic nomination I'll have no choice but to vote her just because of old "lesser of two evils" but I'm not excited about it and I think the GOP will tear her a new one in the general election.

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53. "RE: Lol, lil boy I'm old enough that I actually voted for BILL Clinton b..."
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Homophobe T...what's poppin' my dude....?

Actually, I'm most likely older than u, Capt. HATE-A-BITCH

And if u were old enough to vote for Bill that first time around then u def. don't have any excuses for the shit u be pulling on this site....lol

That makes it worse....Quite sad, even....

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13. "the people who care about this already hate her"
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the people who will be voting for her or are considering voting for her don't care about this

  

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24. "LOL, if you read the link it does make an interesting point that contras..."
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the recent plea cops that other SOS's, etc...used email to send sensitive information

that's not the issue that this article focused on

it's the private server

and storing classified information on said private server is a violation

there was a chain, don't know if it's in the link or not as I read it when it was posted and refrained from replying until now...

...where she instructed somebody to remove the classified tag and forward on the requested information...

I still find it hilarisad that people could even be moved to believe that a SOS DIDN'T handle classified information

I would assume that's part of the job

hate or not.

base, she looks like a liar...again.

interesting that this is a WaPo article, as they recently endorsed her

now they're making Biden pleas

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25. "they have a separate system for that"
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it's not that people don't think she handled classified documents, it's that they're not supposed to go to that address in the first place.

that's not to say that it doesn't happen or that stuff doesn't get classified later, but this isn't her only inbox for reasons that should be entirely obvious.

if you don't know that you can't really be in this discussion

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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28. "RE: they have a separate system for that"
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>it's not that people don't think she handled classified
>documents, it's that they're not supposed to go to that
>address in the first place.
>
>that's not to say that it doesn't happen or that stuff doesn't
>get classified later, but this isn't her only inbox for
>reasons that should be entirely obvious.
>
>if you don't know that you can't really be in this discussion


We live in a click bait age....People don't have time to look into facts....

Again....whether people go for Bernie or Clinton it would be smart not to join in demonizing either one....U know...because one of them will be going against the Repugs...

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29. "This is politics dogg. It's gonna get dirty..."
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Especially if Sanders starts to have a real legit chance to win it (i.e. he wins a few primaries post-NH).

The Sanders team is playing it clean for now. But let those chances of winning creep up; emails gonna be talked about, Lewinski will be dog whistled, Benghazi will be invoked.
Then if he loses the nomination, he will jump on team Clinton like none of that happened.

That's the case for every election (democrat or republican). Why is it (or why should it) going to be different this time?

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30. "RE: This is politics dogg. It's gonna get dirty..."
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It gets dirty with the facts and ideology.....That's why Bernie has been pretty decent about not jumping on this email shit...

My concern now though is by the Bernie crew being on some ALL OR NOTHING definition of what being a progressive is, that kind of talk is dangerous for the future of the Democratic party...But that's another post....

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31. "RE: I'm even spinning it to her winning the D nomination"
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she's been invoking...I'm the one who gets stuff done...I'm the one that can work with Congress...

FOH

you can't claim that, and then use Rs as a plea cop

she's going to get us to universal healthcare (not that she claims she is to begin with)

but can't even use email w/o a controversy?

c'mon

this is a state department finding, yes?

now she's questioning the integrity of the state department, as former SOS? <-- not a good look, partisan or not

HRC vs a R is going to be a nightmare

she thinks Bern is 'smearing' her now, by debating her record

HAHAHA...the Rs are going to drag us all down the Clinton rabbit hole.

I want to see the speech(s) transcripts.

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32. "RE: I'm even spinning it to her winning the D nomination"
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>she's been invoking...I'm the one who gets stuff done...I'm
>the one that can work with Congress...
>
>FOH
>
>you can't claim that, and then use Rs as a plea cop
>
>she's going to get us to universal healthcare (not that she
>claims she is to begin with)
>
>but can't even use emails to go w/o a controversy?
>
>c'mon
>
>this is a state department finding, yes?
>
>now she's questioning the integrity of the state department,
>as former SOS? <-- not a good look, partisan or not
>
>HRC vs a R is going to be a nightmare
>
>she thinks Bern is 'smearing' her now, by debating her record
>
>HAHAHA...the Rs are going to drag us all down the Clinton
>rabbit hole.


What u r mostly stating though R THE ISSUES....

It is quite fair to question Bernie's history with working with folks across the aisle and getting things done...It's quite fair for Bernie to talk about how Hill Dawg voted for the war if he is trying to get an edge on the foreign politics debate in the Democratic, very DOVISH primary...THAT'S POLITICS....

U know what's not smart though? Saying that someone who was going HARD against the Repugs in the '90s when she was fighting for the early version of affordable healthcare and who voted with Bernie lockstep while they were in the Senate together is all of a sudden a fake Progressive....lol

As much as a Right Wing asshole Ronald Reagan was, even he understood that Republican on Republican crime only works when u deal with the facts...NOT some strict IDEOLOGY....Ronnie Rightwing's famous quote: "Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican...." That's why the Repugs won...If they had beef with each other they did so on the issues....Not on whether someone was a TRUE REPUBLICAN....

It's no secret why Repugs r having trouble winning Presidential elections TODAY....Dat civil war is killing 'em....Hope the same thing doesn't happen with the Democrats...

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34. "IMO its better to get the dirt out NOW "
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instead of waiting until the general so that shit can be all fresh and new for independents who tend to decide these elections.

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27. "you know more than one personworks for the Washington Post, right?"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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35. "Ahh.. i see. you were on the fence, but then you read the article"
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Lol

  

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38. "I'd much rather talk about what happened in Iowa"
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=12966284&mesg_id=12966284&page=#12969640

0.1053 + 0.0167 = 0.122, yep, they got caught.

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40. "Another thing that has nothimg to do with what i said?"
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You're on a roll

  

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41. "RE: I'd much rather talk about what happened in Iowa"
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That's cool and all.....

But I guess the latest news didn't hit your wire yet....

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/bernie-sanders-iowa-results-gain-error-recount-hillary-clinton

Now we should get back to some substantive debates...People supporting both Bernie and Clinton should know what the end game is...This ain't a pissing match, dog.....

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42. "or maybe you're not that good at math/probabilities/statistics"
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they found 5 discrepancies

yes?

if you do the math

all of those discrepancies were if HRC's favor

yes?

congrats on the W, the Clinton way.

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44. "RE: or maybe you're not that good at math/probabilities/statistics"
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>they found 5 discrepancies
>
>yes?
>
>if you do the math
>
>all of those discrepancies were if HRC's favor
>
>yes?
>
>congrats on the W, the Clinton way.


Man....turn it down...lol

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46. "lol at the term: ' (insert politician) stan'"
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I JUST LOVE YOUR LEGISLATION


I own your ENTIRE voting record!!!

  

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47. "RE: lol at the term: ' (insert politician) stan'"
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Fools treating politics like a Nas vs. Jay Z battle...

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51. "Politics aside...if she had TS on a unclassified machine "
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She gotta go to jail...

  

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54. "Crazier things have happened....(SWIPE)"
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FBI formally confirms its investigation of Hillary Clinton’s email server
02/08/16 05:30 PM—UPDATED 02/08/16 06:58 PM

By Pete Williams

In a letter disclosed Monday in a federal court filing, the FBI confirms one of the world’s worst-kept secrets: It is looking into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server.

Why say this at all, since it was widely known to be true? Because in August in response to a judge’s direction, the State Department asked the FBI for information about what it was up to. Sorry, the FBI said at the time, we can neither confirm nor deny the existence of any investigation.

Now, in a letter dated February 2 and filed in court Monday, the FBI’s general counsel, James Baker, notes that in public statements and congressional testimony, the FBI “has acknowledged generally that it is working on matters related to former Secretary Clinton’s use of a private email server.”

Baker says the FBI has not, however, “publicly acknowledged the specific focus, scope or potential targets of any such proceedings.”

He ends the one-paragraph letter by saying that the FBI cannot say more “without adversely affecting on-going law enforcement efforts.”

The letter was filed in one of the Freedom of Information Act cases brought against the State Department over access to documents from Hillary Clinton’s time as secretary of state. This one was filed by Judicial Watch.

link: http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/fbi-formally-confirms-its-investigation-hillary-clintons-email-server

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55. "The assertion is not that she had top secret info on a private machine."
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The assertion is merely that non-classified information was sent to (and possibly from) her, and that then, years later, that information was classified.

And as people keep forgetting to note, she is not the first Secretary of State to be hit by this technicality.

This is a politically manufactured scandal.

  

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56. "RE: The assertion IS that she had top secret info on a private machine."
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I'm not trying to pick a fight here

either you or I are not understanding this correctly

and you really have to pay close attention to the language being used

yes, previous SOSs used private email accounts

and IRT Colin, I think those accounts were still on state department devices:

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/colin-powell-personal-email-secretary-of-state-115707

the issue IS that she used a private server

and now that those communications have been labeled classified

she did have classified information on a private machine.

^^^ that is the issue as I understand it

not email, in and of itself.

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57. "RE: The assertion IS that she had top secret info on a private machine."
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>she did have classified information on a private machine.
>
>^^^ that is the issue as I understand it


U not understanding too well....

The investigators are looking into whether or not Clinton KNOWINGLY handled classified info...That's why Powell and Condi came up during the investigation...Because they had to go back and see whether the entire program was flawed or not...

There is only one reason for folks on Hill's team to be worried: The FBI is doing the investigation...Not the witch-hunting ass Repugs who already got caught out there on Benghazi....

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58. "RE: the back pedal, noted"
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"The FBI is doing the investigation...Not the witch-hunting ass Repugs who already got caught out there on Benghazi...."

so now the email thing is legit

it's just Benghazi and everything else that is a R witch hunt

got it.

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59. "RE: the back pedal, noted"
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>"The FBI is doing the investigation...Not the witch-hunting
>ass Repugs who already got caught out there on Benghazi...."
>
>so now the email thing is legit
>
>it's just Benghazi and everything else that is a R witch hunt
>
>got it.


It was legit, Sherlock, the moment the FBI got involved....But listening to the Right Wing noise machine on this is stupid....

And on the real, are u a Democrat? Or even voting Democrat? Or are u just Bernie Bro-ing? Because anyone voting as a Democrat bringing up Benghazi is suspect as hell...

U wanna talk about Hillary's REAL foreign policy hits and misses, that's a real talk to have, dog....But I don't know if I should take u seriously when u still name dropping Benghazi or even entertaining Whitewater conspiracies....

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60. "The FBI's involvement doesn't mean there's anything to the case, though."
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I mean, yes, it is a risk to the campaign that they're investigating, in that they have the authority to blow everything to shit if they were to find something.

But the fact that they're investigating doesn't mean there's something there. The FBI investigates what they're asked to investigate. We don't know who asked them to investigate this, or why. There are plenty of reasons for them to investigate this issue, some justified, some completely unjustified, but very few plausible chains of events that lead in the direction that Fox News and the Bernie Bros seem to want everyone to think this is all headed.

  

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murph71
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61. "RE: The FBI's involvement doesn't mean there's anything to the case, tho..."
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FBI is a real issue...U don't want any parts of the FBI sniffing around even if it's just normal protocol (they r doing the same thing with Powell and Condi)....

I don;t think this is a SCANDAL though....But it does't have to be a scandal to hurt Clinton...

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62. "you DO realize that Hillary actually accepted responsibility for the..."
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security lapses in Benghazi, well not right away of course but after a bunch of denials, deflections and LYING until she finally had no choice but to own the shit because it happened on her watch.

And yet this is the same woman we're supposed to have confidence in handling our entire national security? SOS was a test for her and she failed miserably yet people want to promote her to the presidency?

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64. "RE: you DO realize that Hillary actually accepted responsibility for the..."
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Tue Feb-09-16 07:55 AM by murph71

          

>security lapses in Benghazi, well not right away of course
>but after a bunch of denials, deflections and LYING until she
>finally had no choice but to own the shit because it happened
>on her watch.
>
>And yet this is the same woman we're supposed to have
>confidence in handling our entire national security? SOS was a
>test for her and she failed miserably yet people want to
>promote her to the presidency?


I don't know what to say, homie....Even Republicans are no longer pointing the finger on whether Clinton had anything to do with security lapses. Once it came out that the ambassador turned down the State Department's recommendation for security several times, that charge was quickly swept under the carpet. The thing that u still hear from Clinton's critics is whether or nothing Clinton and the Obama Administration lied about if Benghazi was a terrorist attack inspired by a video or was it pre-planned....What u r bringing up is not even part of critique of Clinton anymore. Except on FAR right-wing radio.....

I mean after Clinton ethered those clowns at the Benghazi hearing if u still going on about this that's on you....Clinton did the Buck-stops-here comment...Because she is the head of the State Department. That's what they ALL do. But the reason why the Benghazi "scandal" fizzled was because as the truth started coming out it became nothing more than a partisan duck hunt....

There's some real ligit reasons to have pause about a Clinton Presidency.....Benghazi ain't one of them....

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65. "lol, dude you're actually starting to sound like Hillary..."
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them amount of spin and deflections coming out of you is hilarious.

Its not about what Republicans are saying are not saying its about what did and didn't happen under Hillary's watch when she was secretary of state. And the facts are after a lot of initial spin, deflections and LIES, she owned up to it only when she had no choice but to with her little "the buck stops here" and all her fake crying and bullshit.


>Once it came out that the ambassador
>turned down the State Department's recommendation for security
>several times, that charge was quickly swept under the carpet.

more spin, this was something that was supposedly "leaked" by an "unnamed defense department official" but no one has actually come forward said "Chris Stevens told ME that he didn't want more security".

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66. "RE: lol, dude you're actually starting to sound like Hillary..."
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Tue Feb-09-16 10:12 AM by murph71

          

>them amount of spin and deflections coming out of you is
>hilarious.


>Its not about what Republicans are saying are not saying its
>about what did and didn't happen under Hillary's watch when
>she was secretary of state. And the facts are after a lot of
>initial spin, deflections and LIES, she owned up to it only
>when she had no choice but to with her little "the buck stops
>here" and all her fake crying and bullshit.


I sincerely don't think u know enough about Benghazi to have a real discussion here....
Again, let's make this clear. Here are some real beefs taken from a BERNIE supporter on this very site. Although the one claiming that Hillary caused the rise of ISIS is jumping the shark, u know what u won't find? Anything about Benghazi....

LEGIT HILLARY FOREIGN POLICY BEEFS--


--Legit: Voting in favor of cluster bombs in civilian areas

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/12/21/425303/-

--Legit: Overseeing billions in arms deals to Clinton Foundation donors

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/05/hillary-clinton-foundation-state-arms-deals

--Legit: Supporting interventions that caused the spread of ISIS in Libya and Syria:

https://newrepublic.com/article/121879/hillary-clinton-should-take-blame-disastrous-libyan-intervention

http://www.truth-out.org/progressivepicks/item/33180-wikileaks-reveals-how-the-us-aggressively-pursued-regime-change-in-syria-igniting-a-bloodbath

Legit: Pushing to veto UN resolutions against Israel's illegal settlements in the West Bank

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/33868-what-we-can-expect-from-hillary-clinton-on-israel-palestine

Legit: Held up as a role model Henry Kissinger, a war criminal with Vietnamese, Laotian, Cambodian, Bangladeshi, East Timorese, Angolan, Iraqi, and Iranian blood on his hands:

http://www.salon.com/2016/01/12/emails_expose_close_ties_between_hillary_clinton_and_accused_war_criminal_henry_kissinger/

Legit: enthusiastically backed a (Iraq) war that caused hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths and destabilized the whole region:

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/01/27/five-lamest-excuses-hillary-clintons-vote-invade-iraq





THESE^^^^^^^^^ R very substantive foreign policy arguments not to vote for Hillary Clinton....

The Benghazi scandal is so much of a joke now that when they made a movie about it shit flopped...Clinton didn't even get named as the person that gave that alleged stand-down in that Michael Bay film. Because that never happened....

Again, I think I've been giving u too much credit. I never knew u were easily suckered in...

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67. "You should be dizzy from all the spinning you're doing, bottom line, wha..."
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happened in Benghazi was a failure of the State Department. A State department which Hillary Rodham Clinton was in charge of that the time.

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68. "RE: You should be dizzy from all the spinning you're doing, bottom line,..."
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Tue Feb-09-16 10:59 AM by murph71

          

No disrespect...But r u having trouble comprehending?...

I just gave u real foreign policy issues Clinton should be worried about. One in particular that is 100 times worst than Benghazi (Being in the LET'S GO CROWD for invading Libya)....And yet u keep coming back to Benghazi...lol

U do realize that the Benghazi incident was the first time deaths at a Diplomatic or military base has ever been politicized in such a fashion, right?

U do realized that when Ronald Reagan lost over 299 Americans and French military forces in Beirut in 1983 in a "safe zone" NOBODY on the Democratic side tried to drag Ronnie's people into a partisan style Committee, right?

I think I understand where u r coming from now...If u believe Benghazi, Whitewater, Travelgate and the like, then there's no getting through to u....That shit is the Right Wing radio Trifecta.....

Shit wild, my dude....SMH...

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69. "Once you're done spinning can you refute anything I said in post #67?"
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63. "we already established you have no idea what you're talking about"
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but you keep posting tho

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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