One thing that's funny (or slightly annoying) about DJing is that folks will ask me thousands of questions all the time, and it made me realize that most folks really don't know a lot about us unless they personally know a DJ.

Here's some things I've realized that some folks assume about DJs (some true, some false, some arguable):

-We already have a selected playlist of songs to play every night, with the songs already being in order and all

-We get all of our music for free if we are using a laptop

-We don't really need to use turntables because the songs are on the laptop

-We don't have to individually download songs...we can type them into "YouTube" or something similar to Google and find literally any and every song ever made

-We always get groupies when we DJ at clubs

-Clubs hire DJs based on who they feel are the best DJs

-Club goers would enjoy different (or better) music if DJs were bold enough to play certain songs in the club

What are some things that you personally assume, or even things that you used to assume? I won't judge if you think it's a "stupid" question because I'm sure I've heard worse!

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The steve aoki types do it to pretend they are doing something

But the good DJs in techno and house are actually EQing constantly

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

But I know some DJs just twist em and I don't hear ANY difference

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Theres a couple of songs that I only play the highs and mids throughout the verses, then drop the bass back in for the hook...if the hook is powerful enough.

But a lot of times I use the EQs to seamlessly blend from one track to another. If you see a cat fiddling with EQs as soon as a song comes on, theyre either doin' too much, or nothing at all.





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and 'play with' the other equalizer shit to make it seem like they doin the most

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thousands of reasons they annoy us. I'm sure some folks here read the blog I wrote about it all: http://djrtistic.tumblr.com/post/118299622530/why-djs-dont-like-taking-requests

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Exactly. I hate when ppl make demands and talk to DJ's as if they're
not a stranger and a jukebox. Make a request like u have some damn
sense and it increases your chances greatly of the song being played.
You don't know me so u may not want to make demands or go on and on
about one song when I don't have it cause u think it's so great.

On New years day, I flipped this white girl the bird as she was
leaving and still whining and raising her voice abt a song I didn't
play that she demanded lol. And the worst part was she never even
came to the booth. Just yelling requests from a far. FTB lol.

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the name of the night was "The Revival" because we were there to play Rare Grooves, and just lesser heard tracks vs anything new.

Thing is, it's right off Hollywood Blvd on Cahuenga, aka Tourist central...so we would get folks who came in and didn't know the format, or didn't care. Most folks were cool, but one girl from Florida came up to me tellin me her uncle was some legend out there (and I know most Florida legends but didn't know him) and she started getting irate because I wouldn't play Rich Homie Quan and Young Thug. I nicely told her "usually, that's what I play, but that's not the format tonight" and she literally said "I don't give a FUCK about the format!!!! Nobody wants to hear this shit!" as the rest of the crowd danced.

I hadn't been that mad in a minute. I gave her the finger and waved her off. I'm mad just thinking about it....fuck her.

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that's that bullshit lol.

And that's the funny thing, they always claim ppl want to hear what
they want more AS they are dancing lol.

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so we go to this lounge and the dance floor is packed. She went straight to the booth and asked..no, she demanded that man to play JayZ

lite skin girls yo...

I almost couldn't believe it because you know Jay is getting played but she needed to hear that shit before she would even think about dancing.

later that night she was talking shit and slipped and busted her ass on some black ice on the sidewalk.

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>slipped and busted her ass on some black ice

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What I've seen happen a LOT now...these artists and "labels" (you know, In Da Trapp Records and their CEO Big Trapazoid) will buy bottles now, and the promoter will tell us we have to play 2-3 of their songs that night. Some of them buy bottles and they get to be on the flyer as the "host."

I was pissed at a hood spot I did two years ago...these dudes bought bottles, and I played one of their songs, but dude came up to me talkin about "you gotta play all five!" and said "we bought bottles, you BETTER play our shit!" The songs weren't even bad, but I'm not playing five unknown songs after 12, PERIOD, especially if you didn't buy me a bottle!

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Damn son...

I hope to never ever in life have to do this..

Bottle service clubs I do .. want hits..

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Supper Club (R.I.P.), Playhouse, Roxbury (R.I.P.) etc etc and even worse at trendy-hood and legit-hood spots.

It's just allllll about the money to some of them. I went to Cosmo a few months ago, and Jaccpot (Desean Jackson's company) did this shit. They bought two tables, and from 12:30-12:43, the rappers on the label just kept performing their super unknown songs. Hella unmastered.

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Hmm....

on real ass nights (T, F, S)? or like a Wednesday?

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Fridays, and they definitely do it there. Crowd is pretty mixed, but still more Black.

Game was there and had his "album release party" when the album dropped...he was drunk as SHIT, and they basically played 8 songs from his album in a row, with him telling B.A.D. "hold up, stop this one, rewind it again!!!"

The crowds at some of these spots are more about being there for the whole image and the "scene" moreso than actually partying hard, so it's different.

The main nights at most of these spots were always off nights, though...Colony was Mondays, Supper Club and Emerson on Tuesdays, Tru on Wednesdays, Roxbury, Supper, and Blok on Thursdays, Greystone Sundays.

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>Fridays, and they definitely do it there. Crowd is pretty
>mixed, but still more Black.
>

yea I've been at playhouse on Saturdays mostly but still havent seen this

>Game was there and had his "album release party" when the
>album dropped...he was drunk as SHIT, and they basically
>played 8 songs from his album in a row, with him telling
>B.A.D. "hold up, stop this one, rewind it again!!!"
>

It is game though.. which is different than like Inglewood-Ceo-Hustler-Ballers-INC forcing the club to drop new tunes

>The crowds at some of these spots are more about being there
>for the whole image and the "scene" moreso than actually
>partying hard, so it's different.
>

Thats every bottle club spot... on every night.. lol

>The main nights at most of these spots were always off nights,
>though...Colony was Mondays, Supper Club and Emerson on
>Tuesdays, Tru on Wednesdays, Roxbury, Supper, and Blok on
>Thursdays, Greystone Sundays.

I just assumed most "hip hop" nights are big enough that these guys dont have the bread to do that shit...

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>>though...Colony was Mondays, Supper Club and Emerson on
>>Tuesdays, Tru on Wednesdays, Roxbury, Supper, and Blok on
>>Thursdays, Greystone Sundays.
>
>I just assumed most "hip hop" nights are big enough that these
>guys dont have the bread to do that shit...

It happens more at the trendy-hood spots for sure than the high end Black nights. But shiiiiit, these "labels" are always dope boy funded. You ever heard of YSSL? They are the ones who put Genasis out, and basically got his songs into rotation. They're an "Entertainment company" who you'll see 15 deep in bottle service at spots where the table minimum is $2,000, and they've had several of their unknown rappers songs played, in addition to Genasis' tracks.

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Ah yes I can dig it...

dont know those guys but I know Genasis was doing that club circuit early..

Sidenote:

new song might go too..

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How do spots like Supper Club go under? Wasn't it like super popular?

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Not making money...

LA is trying to compete with Vegas and San Diego and they dont have the bread...

all the BS aside there isnt THAT much money in LA to run most of those spots for any long period. They can barely afford mid-high level DJs that are getting 75k+ in LV or SD even with the bottle service..

I would also assume ppl getting shot doesn't help either

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and I could tell it was on the way out. It didn't attract the same level of clientele, especially after the shootings and fights in 2014.

But in general, just as Double 0 said, it's really not enough money to keep these clubs running at a high level, and people in L.A. just move on to things extreeeeemely fast. People watch TV shows and see clubs, and they get here 6 months or years later asking about those same spots...we're like "that shit was dead when the show aired!!"

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Real talk...

I like calling clubs by their old ass names though... like "Garden Of Eden"

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We are already trying to predict what they're gonna call Supper Club once someone re-opens it.

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What was the name of the small club attached to Supperclub? Entrance was in the back

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I actually did it July 4th

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Ah yes ok..

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I don't personally believe it but I've heard the sentiment. Most of the best producers / beatmakers began as DJs and I think it only makes you better by having that 'ear'

didn't DJ until like 12 years after I was making music.

And now, I wish I had been DJing in High School, because I would have been a MUCH, much much much much better producer.

It's to the point that even legit award winning producers have consulted with me about songs they're producing, because they know that I can tell them what will work, how fast it should be, if that hi-hat should be in there or not, or if it'll sound dated in six months.

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some assume that a DJ is not a musician

it gets taken for granted because Spinderalla didn't get her full due in Salt and Pepa and also Jam Master Jay in some ways got overlooked with RUN Dmc


they only listen to a certain type of music

they are reserved and anti social

some folks would be surprised or shocked at some of the early practice records used for scratching and running a tempo. a friend of mine
learned scractching by using classical chords
and jazz breakbeats and combining the two

mistermaxxx R.Kelly, Michael Jackson,Stevie wonder,Rick James,Marvin Gaye,El Debarge, Barry WHite Lionel RIchie,Isleys EWF,Lady T.,Kid creole and coconuts,the crusaders,kc sunshine band,bee gees,jW,sd,NE,JB

Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

>a
>friend of mine
>learned scractching by using classical chords
>and jazz breakbeats and combining the two

My dad plays drums, so I have def taken influence from hearing drum patterns...but classical chords? I'm interested

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if you can read sheet music and understanding the time and then flip a tempo to balance out changes and shifts than it can happen. i think my buddy flipped Debussy and Tony Williams as a basis and it worked.

another buddy of mine took the guitar part from diana Ross''s "Mirror,Mirror" ad used that guitar solo with Yes's "Owner of a lonely Heart" and practice of that and made it connectt for a set.

to me the process of hybriding the inter changable parts made me appreciate the deidication and drive of the art form

mistermaxxx R.Kelly, Michael Jackson,Stevie wonder,Rick James,Marvin Gaye,El Debarge, Barry WHite Lionel RIchie,Isleys EWF,Lady T.,Kid creole and coconuts,the crusaders,kc sunshine band,bee gees,jW,sd,NE,JB

Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

like where producers got their samples from.

or i expect them to be able to hear part of a song and tell me what the song is on some HUMAN SHAZAM/SOUNDHOUND type shit.




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lol...

were you not on the-breaks? before that?

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That they are always connected to Wifi in the club... lol

That's the shit I get the most now outside of requests (which I dont do)

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now it's "oh it's no wifi, just tether from my phone."

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Oh shit!

Aint heard that one yet..

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don't have yet. They're catching up, SMH!

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hear Beyonce or some shit. I've always said that DJs are just the gateway to the folks who really make money.

College is different, because it's more about who's seen and known than who makes money.

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It can be done... but its work..

bottle service clubs and having a homey help it out for sure though.. If you do a place like marquee or even playhouse in LA.. having a homey bring some "ones" on stage.. you can definitely win..

lounge is a bit harder but not impossible if you are focused

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lol. so it doesn't work out the same for me.

honestly i'll get hit on at a spot after i do a set and i have to tell (and sometimes CONVINCE) a dude that i DJ and i just spun the set they enjoyed so much

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But doesn't that make it better for you? the sneak attack?

Everytime I've djed with Eque or Nicole from Ninasky there has always been a solid line of "suitors". But these have been spots where the booth was SUPER visible. It's easier for both sexes in spots that make you a known commodity (visible dj booth) not ones that throw you in a dark corner as background music steeez

EDIT: I wish smaller spots would understand that visible dj booths make for a better time anyway..

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so i usually just end the flirtation because that shit is stupid

like legit i have to prove i was just up there. if i have to get to the point where i actually need to pull in someone to back up my story (which has happened), i call it a day

i try and flirt if a dude wants to nerd out on what i'm playing and comes up to say something but that never works! lol.

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Yea..

those dudes are wack.... but im sure you know that already

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or just spend half the night walking back and forth to the dj booth...

cause most people IMO aren't going to believe the person they are standing next to was just spinning unless someone says "nice set"

why?

cause people be lying in bars and clubs

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Because if that's the case, I would guess that would change the dynamic for her getting hollered at by women, which has to be a different thing than a straight lady DJ getting hollered at by men.

People act like I'm working fries at McDonald's

Also..i absolutely HATE when folks come up and ask for "something good" or "something we can dance to"

Chick came up to me and asked for "Motown..so we can dance" while I was playing shit that was on Motown

Dude came to me and tried to tell me that Pfunk was 4 on the floor and he wanted to hear some Rumba so he can dance.

Messed my night up..I was prepared for some Larry Levan set and these folks threw me off for the rest of the night.

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DJs playing small-time lounges or off-nights at more popular spots to be among the most disagreeable, disgruntled dudes (only experienced this with men) you'll meet.

No one likes to play for an empty bar.. No artist, No DJ, No Comedian, No stripper etc..

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regardless, and frankly, one is what he/she is. It certainly isn't the fault of anyone at said lounge/bar.

lots of bars do a low base and a bar cut
or just a bar cut

honestly i've probably been the disgruntled dj at a small spot not b/c it's not going well but more b/c folks want to treat me like their personal jukebox

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that you should just play whatever they want to hear. That would be very annoying. I figured that smaller lunge/clubs don't have a headcount-based fee, but I can see if you are playing an off-night at a bigger spot.

As an aside, I remember catching you at a spot in the east village near my apartment, this probably goes back 10 years, and you just laughed off any of my suggestions. I think I asked for Zhigge's 'Toss it Up' or something else obnoxious.

disgruntled are those who lost their spot, which happens every few years.

I know a few DJ's who RAN their scene (Black Hollywood) around 2007-2009...but they've been replaced, and "demoted" into doing the lesser spots that aren't as exclusive. It's not even about size, but about how elite the spot is. So these types are bitter as SHIT, and will vent literally every time I talk to them.

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my very good friend got this for me for christmas. i almost wore it for my NYE gig but i decided to try and dress cuter but this will be worn to many a gig, trust.

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Ha... I need that..

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That the DJ has access to every song ever released in the history of music

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The worst request ever is when you are playing danceable 90s-early 00s hip hop and someone comes and wants...

".... more upbeat and danceable rap music"

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"something faster" yet they ask for something 20-30 BPM slower!!!!

Like...I get that in a weird way, "Antidote" has more energy than "Just friends" and Goapele "Closer" but I wish it was a better way to describe a higher energy song instead of saying "faster" because that means NOTHING to us technical heads.

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but these kids will want mustard and im playing like vivrant thing.. lol shit will literally be the same bpm

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that the sonic qualities aka dat bass make a HUUUUGE difference, even when songs are the same energy.

One night I was warming up early vibe, and was playing the usual early 2000's types of R&B songs. The girls were only halfway dancing, mainly the 21-25 crowd. As SOON as I switched up to the Mustard "Show me" YG "Say stop" type songs, felt like they IMMEDIATELY started dancing...and I also realized how much different they felt due to the bass hitting hard, even though they were a very similar pace and vibe.

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100%

speaking of which..

How is Loverance STILL reacting all these years later.. lol at least in my spots

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I accidentally played the regular one Saturday, and literally EVERYONE was singing the R&B "ladies this yo sooooooooong" so I had to switch it real fast, smh.

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We do...

I do..

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We do, but the amount is gonna differ from Dive Bar to High End
restaurant or club.

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One gig I jokingly requested a bottle of Jack Daniels in the DJ area. I got to the spot early and, lo, there was a fifth of Jack with my name on a sticky note on it at the bar area.

During my residency I got a couple of free drinks every night.

Most of my club gigs, however, didn't include free drinks... which kinda pissed me off.

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Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

Cheapest spot I played at was U Street Music Hall in DC.

Only gave me 2 drink tickets..one for me, one for my wife. That was rough. A spot I played in here in Atlanta let me/us have any domestic or house likka for free, top shelf/imports would cost. We were some Aristocrat drinkin mofo's that night.






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Regardless of how much it changes the pitch

That y'all don't give a flying fuck when mixing an R&B vocal over a different beat because the shit is never in the same key

Y'all the type to always brag about someone else...that's why y'all spin music made by other people because you can't create the shit yourselves.

LOL

How many producer/DJs are there. Try to think of a producer that DOESN'T DJ. Right.

Modern software can pitch-match.

I forgot the other thing you said but probably dumb.

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I feel like one reason this site has regressed is because the people with 'ok' next to their name are not too bright.

If security isn't letting you or your homies in the venue, there's not much I can do about it...especially during the party when I'm in the booth trying to work.

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