Just saw it on the r/serialpodcast forum

Not sure why they're going with the quiet rollout of the new season


Anyone know what the subject is going to be about?

Last I heard is he was granted an appeal

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the cell phone tower evidence is in question, along with the potential testimony of Asia McLain. The order for the rehearing was issued about a month ago and the hearing would have been set within a couple of weeks after that, but his attorney's twitter hasn't updated with a hearing date yet.

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The army deserter captured by the Taliban.
Ep1 is out. I may give it a shot.

I'm interested to see what they can add since it is already a pretty popular story.

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>The army deserter captured by the Taliban.
>Ep1 is out. I may give it a shot.
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>I'm interested to see what they can add since it is already a
>pretty popular story.

A huge part of the magic of the first "season" (for lack of a better term) was the relative obscurity of the story, in my opinion.

I'm sure they'll do a good job with it I'm just saying the initial news disappointed me.

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He hasn't spoken to any media


I can already bet we hear his side. In his words

not that Adnan was ever unknown to me, it just wasn't popular. But I'm still here for it.

Ep 1 was great, and the promo for ep 2 sounds even better. I won't spoil it.

I didn't catch on to season 1 until it had mostly all aired, so I was able to binge the whole thing. After listening to this episode I was just as itchy as ever to click forward to the next episode.

already speculations that the official account is not the truth.

This is a great choice.


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The Bowe Bergdahl story, as expected.

Haven't listened to it yet, but I can't wait.

The ep. focuses on what he says are the reasons for what happened. At first, he's not the most sympathetic guy in the world (which I imagine is part of the point), and I'm not sure I believe everything he says, but he sounds like he believes, even if he's convinced himself after the fact.

Also want to note the "base" in Mest where he was stationed sounded like the one of the absolutely worst places on Earth ("Pit of Hell" FTW). I can at least understand how being stationed there could drive someone to act very stupidly.

But, so far, good ep. and interesting choice of subject.

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Bergdahl is very boring sounding, very unsympathetic and kind of just comes across as someone who is potentially lying about everything. he was too vague to be telling the truth, IMO.

i'll still listen if for no other reason than to hear Koenig talk to the Taliban.

i dunno though, this just doesn't seem a very interesting story on its face - especially since much of it was already very public.

which is a large reason i dunno if i care about his story.

fuck you.

I was at the gym this afternoon and every fucking TV that wasn't on a sports channel was talking about this shit. Interviewing "former platoon mates" about their thoughts about "the podcast" and shit. Ugh. I'm really disappointed in my girl Sarah. Everything that was good and interesting and fun about the first "season" (for lack of a better term) appears to be gone besides Sarah's sexxy ass voice. I'm sure I'll eventually check it out but as of now I have no interest at all, which makes me sad considering how interested and involved I was in the first season, including tons of follow up after the episodes were done.

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You loved the first season. You haven't heard a second of the new season. You've heard some media coverage of the new season. You've decided the new season must suck. Am I following that correctly?

I heard the first episode today and really enjoyed it. I think fans of last season would too. *shrug*

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I know adnan's charming sociopathic personality made for a more engaging listening compared to bergdahl's dryness. But there's a lot of layers to uncover here fam


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that the media coverage may be a bit much and so now it "Sucks". but the media coverage is basically because of two things

1. its an ongoing case
2. the success of the first season which had everyone anticipating this second season.

it almost didn't matter what this season was about, ppl were on it. and once it was leaked what this season was about, it got more attention

I listened to the first episode and it was good. Bowe doesn't seem to reliable to me (and this is only because he can't really articulate the issues happening in the military but that might occur further down the line)

All I was trying to say was this: I think the magic of the first season of the podcast was the obscurity of the story being told. It wasn't something that was covered all over the news, so the entire thing was fresh and new to everyone who listened. That was the main draw initially, to me. It was a sort of "this could've happened in our town" type of story, which was appealing.

It doesn't really have anything to do with the podcast "blowing up" or the news coverage of it, on its face. Serial got a ton of momentum and coverage last season, too. But the immediate CNN/Fox/etc. coverage immediately following the first episode is just indicative of the fact that instead of going with another unfamiliar story, they decided to go with a story that had massive news coverage at the time it happened, so everyone at the very least has "heard" the story before even if they are not familiar with the intimate details.

I should make clear that I am certain that the information presented will be new and fresh, specifically considering the fact that the story is being told in Bergdahl's (sp) own words. It will be a fresh take on the whole thing, and I'm sure it is going to be incredibly interesting, informative and complex just like last season. I guess at times I simply have a tendency to romanticize things based on my initial impression of what they are and have been, so when they even presumably venture from that first impression I come off disappointed. I guess I was just hoping for another unexplored story like last season, because that's what drew me into the podcast in the first place.

All this said, the wife convinced me to listen to the first podcast Friday night and I'm interested *shrugs*. But I think my point still stands. Hopefully I'm explaining myself well enough so at least you get where I'm coming from.



>that the media coverage may be a bit much and so now it
>"Sucks". but the media coverage is basically because of two
>things
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>1. its an ongoing case
>2. the success of the first season which had everyone
>anticipating this second season.
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>it almost didn't matter what this season was about, ppl were
>on it. and once it was leaked what this season was about, it
>got more attention
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>I listened to the first episode and it was good. Bowe doesn't
>seem to reliable to me (and this is only because he can't
>really articulate the issues happening in the military but
>that might occur further down the line)

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we all though it would be an obscure case. So the fact they chose this one is like...WHY? but Im still interested

I was just taking umbrage with the "I haven't listened and it sucks" comment. That kind of comment always drives me nuts, and it happens way too often on OKP, lol.

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Dude said he bought afghani clothes as to not stick out

Then daybreak comes and he's captured that quickly?


He had a LOT of time to devise a story about all this. Which is why I'm excited to hear the Taliban's version


There is also a possibility he was "turned" Here. And immsure SK will explore that

He did all this planning and he got lost? Didn't look at his compass for hours? Decided to go take a side trip to go hunt for people planting bombs?

>Didn't look at his compass for hours?

with so much at stake there is no way in my mind that could happen. hell i'd be checking too many freaking times lol so yeah doesn't add up for me

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obviously he did a lot of planning to get out but like I said above, he never is able to articulate why he felt there was so much incompetence in his platoon.he just states he felt it was unsafe, someone was going to die, but HOW? What was the real issue? Examples?

I said on FB I feel like he was bullied/hazed and he was fed up. He did this to prove a point (which he states), he wanted to be Jason Bourne, he wanted to get some hard evidence once he realized "this wasn't a great idea" blah blah blah...trying really hard to prove his greatness.

He was cool with the Afghan police and was always hanging with them. This was known which means either he wasn't getting along with his own men or there was something about them that intrigued him. This was just the WORST idea I have ever heard.

regardless of everything, I do think he should be courtmartialed for desertion. The only reason ppl are against this is because they believe he paid for his crimes already. But that's literally what he did and why shouldn't he get in trouble for stupidity?

>obviously he did a lot of planning to get out but like I said
>above, he never is able to articulate why he felt there was so
>much incompetence in his platoon.he just states he felt it was
>unsafe, someone was going to die, but HOW? What was the real
>issue? Examples?

But I assume that will be explained down the line. Hopefully, at least. I think they were just trying to lay some basics down in the first ep, and intentionally kept that question unanswered for the time being because obviously that's kind of the meat of the whole story; it will likely dictate whether the majority of listeners sympathize with his story or not.

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that hopefully it will be explained further down the line. But calling the Taliban? OH SHIT.

planting bombs instead going straight to his destination. sounds fishy.

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from a military base. That shit was definitely inspected, and nobody lifted an eyebrow even?

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that terrain and elevation. Have to be a fuckin beast to get through all of that in the allotted time frame.

Listening now. Back later with thoughts ..

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Without having heard the new joint, I will agree I haven't been as captivated by this season



Coming into this season I thought there could have been a chance Bowe tried to defect instead of deserted, but I don't think that at all anymore.. WIthout that angle I'm definitely less interested.


there is still a few things I've found interesting so far though that keep me listening.

1.)The perspective from the Taliban and local Afghanis about the kidnapping. I hadn't really considered what it was like for the actual guys holding him hostage. They felt a combination of boredom and fear. Boredom from the hours and hours of just sitting around guarding this guy. And fear from other rivals like Al Qaeda or criminal elements wanting to steal Bowe from them.


2.) Hearing the stories from Bergdahl's fellow soldiers has been interesting too. Especiallyt hearing them say how they wanted to Murk him if they found him lol... They were understandably pissed at the situation

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Koenig says it's because of new developments in the story and new access to people involved in the story. She also said they're adding another episode.

https://serialpodcast.org/posts/2016/01/season-2-announcement


I think people are being kind of rough on this season. Yeah, there's not as much ambiguity (Bergdhal was being extremely stupid and impulsive, he wasn't defecting), but I think it's been pretty compelling, if depressing, listening.

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Was kinda looking fwd to a new ep for tomorrow's commute but oh well



And agreed. Ppl are being way too hard on this season.

check out this podcast called Truth & Justice.

But not everyone can be a charming sociopath tho

i don't. i just figure him to be innocent.

Broad was giddy talking to him

I dont blame her; He was funny and engaging.


Except for that one instance where Koenig asked him why tf he didn't at least page Hae when she disappeared


His tone got dark REAL fast ..."so what are you asking me a question?"

She's been at adnan's new hearing the last week


Her voice is noticeably different covering this stuff than the Bergdahl story. She sounds way more excited. Makes for a better listen


Day one was Asia McClain testifying for the defense. It wasWild to hear Serial come up in her testimony. How it made her realize she was way more significant part of the trial then she had thought


Day two State cross examines Asia's testimony

I wish they could be longer than 16 minutes tho! But its' definitely interesting. And I love that it's daily (as the trial goes on).

Also...in regards to season 2, it was all about bullying. He felt bullied by the Sargent. I knew it would come down to that. all that shit they talked about yesterday and it is just bullying.

Not sure if they are better but they are longer and more entertaining.

Either way, sounds like the the state's attorney is grasping at straws...but according to the Undisclosed update he confronted the Defense's cell phone tower expert and told him to make sure he's there tomorrow (today) cuz the state's expert is about to drop some heat (which is very unusual for a prosecutor to come at an expert witness btw).

and I kept saying I would but I still haven't gotten to it yet. Hmmm...I might check that out this weekend though.

I wouldn't have expected less, but it sounds pretty entertaining.