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vee-lover
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Tue Dec-01-15 11:22 AM

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"Poll question: Should Blk Protest Movements Have A Trained & Armed Part Of Its Movement..."


  

          

I sometimes feel like our protests aren't taken as serious as they should by the establishment because there's no threat of anarchy to these protest movements...and when we do lash out violently, our actions are misdirected and unorganized

In my estimation, it would be ideal if we could train some of these gangs to act as military arm to our social protest movements.

Peaceful protests seem to have exhausted their effectiveness in this very hostile and violent 21st century

Poll result (4 votes)
Yes (3 votes)Vote
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Dec 01st 2015
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I just saw Vanguard of the Revolution on black friday #notonedime
Dec 01st 2015
2
Great movie
Dec 01st 2015
6
Man, foxnews was wilding when a protestor was giving a cop a dirty stare
Dec 01st 2015
5
      damn. LOL
Dec 01st 2015
8
Yes, but I can't rock with this idea at all:
Dec 01st 2015
3
been there. done that. see: Jeff Fort/Blackstone Rangers.
Dec 01st 2015
4
You are right abt these young gangbangers but I don't think that
Dec 01st 2015
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If some of us were better historians we would know
Dec 01st 2015
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No, they need a group that can act as counter intelligence.
Dec 02nd 2015
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So we need a black C)ounter I)ntelligence A)gency? Makes sense
Dec 02nd 2015
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How about we start with qualified leadership?
Dec 02nd 2015
11

SoWhat
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Tue Dec-01-15 11:24 AM

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1. "?"
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_Party#Chronology

...we tried this already. we know what happens.

i mean, we can do that again, i guess. but....

fuck you.

  

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bentagain
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Tue Dec-01-15 11:32 AM

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2. "I just saw Vanguard of the Revolution on black friday #notonedime"
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Tue Dec-01-15 11:40 AM by bentagain

  

          

anybody else see it

I swear Ronald Reagan is the worst human being ever born

EVAH

anyway, it was F'N hilarious watching news clips with political types making statements AGAINST citizens being armed

yeah, they flipped the laws quick
developed cointelpro
and swat

and the OP wants to know why there isn't an armed faction of protestors

Fred Hampton.

part of the presentation was the Justice or Else doc

http://revolt.tv/video/justice-or-else-set-to-power-million-man-march-anniversary/D28AC06D-5AD8-49E8-89E4-6D5D7E0B93AA

I like his idea of community building more than protesting oppressors

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BigReg
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Tue Dec-01-15 11:55 AM

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6. "Great movie"
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but yeah, Fred Hampton pretty much illustrates what would happen. It would be worse now with the terrorism laws on the books.

  

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BigReg
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5. "Man, foxnews was wilding when a protestor was giving a cop a dirty stare"
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http://www.salon.com/2015/11/25/megyn_kelly_its_not_appropriate_for_protesters_to_stare_at_cops_even_if_they_have_a_1st_amendment_right_to_do_so/


"Don't you stare at me n-----" issues aside, imagine they had GUNS?

  

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SoWhat
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Tue Dec-01-15 12:00 PM

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8. "damn. LOL"
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fuck you.

  

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flipnile
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Tue Dec-01-15 11:35 AM

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3. "Yes, but I can't rock with this idea at all:"
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Tue Dec-01-15 11:36 AM by flipnile

          

>In my estimation, it would be ideal if we could train some of these
>gangs to act as military arm to our social protest movements.

These dudes have no honor and don't stand for shit. They can't even organize amongst themselves (what black gang is running their community?). That would be an FBI wet dream: armed criminal gang members working side-by-side with black activists. Two birds with one stone.

  

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SoWhat
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Tue Dec-01-15 11:48 AM

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4. "been there. done that. see: Jeff Fort/Blackstone Rangers."
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Fort#The_Blackstone_Rangers

fuck you.

  

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vee-lover
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Tue Dec-01-15 02:08 PM

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9. "You are right abt these young gangbangers but I don't think that"
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applies to the older GBs - The Latin Kings for example are very organized and are involved things beyond criminal activity

The crips (Community Revolution In Progress) is an outgrowth of the Blk Panthers

A lot of these gang members are really smart people and are far more socially/politically aware than most ppl think...

But in regards to these young gang members its true what you stated



>>In my estimation, it would be ideal if we could train some
>of these
>>gangs to act as military arm to our social protest
>movements.
>
>These dudes have no honor and don't stand for shit. They can't
>even organize amongst themselves (what black gang is running
>their community?). That would be an FBI wet dream: armed
>criminal gang members working side-by-side with black
>activists. Two birds with one stone.

grassrootsphilosopher

  

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Musa
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Tue Dec-01-15 11:59 AM

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7. "If some of us were better historians we would know"
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that the 60s pre black panthers had armed members of its movement. Dr King had armed guards and the south had Black armed Decans who fought off many terrorist.

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Atillah Moor
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Wed Dec-02-15 10:46 AM

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10. "No, they need a group that can act as counter intelligence."
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Showing up black and armed to a peaceful protest isn't a good idea unless there's an end game as far as what will transpire once things inevitably turn to violence.

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flipnile
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12. "So we need a black C)ounter I)ntelligence A)gency? Makes sense"
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RaFromQueens
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Wed Dec-02-15 12:19 PM

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11. "How about we start with qualified leadership?"
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Movements gain credibility through reputation tied to their leaders. Always have. OWS and #BLACKLIVESMATTER have been easy to dismiss because of their lack of focus and being dismissed is worse than being ignored.

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