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rdhull
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"video:Apple ejects six black students-We're worried you might steal some..."
Wed Nov-11-15 07:15 PM by rdhull

  

          

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/were-worried-you-might-steal-something-apple-ejects-six-black-students-then-apologises-following-claims-of-racism-20151111-gkwkd0.html

A video showing a group of African students being asked to leave an Apple store at Highpoint shopping centre in Melbourne on Tuesday has caused widespread outrage on social media amid claims of blatant racism.
The video, which was posted on Facebook on Tuesday night, and has since been viewed more than 33,000 times, clearly shows an Apple staff member telling the Maribyrnong College boys that the store's security staff were concerned they were going to shoplift.

"These guys are just a bit worried about your presence in our store," an Apple staff member is heard telling the teenagers. "They're just a bit worried you might steal something."



The students appear shocked by the accusation and despite their protests are asked to leave.
"Guys, end of discussion, I need to ask you to leave our store," the staff member says.

The six Year 10 students involved in the incident say they were shocked by their treatment.
"I've been coming to Highpoint for a long time and I never thought something like this would happen ... of course I was offended," Mabior Ater told Fairfax Media on Wednesday.
Mabior says it is not the first time he has experienced racism but "this is the first time it has been this big."
He says he was overwhelmed by the flood of support he and his school friends have received on social media since the video went viral.
"A lot of people shared it (the video) and they were very angry that this was still happening in 2015," he said.
Fardawsa Shanino wrote: "That's what people do, racial profiling happens a lot, and white Australians want to ignore that. Smart of u guys for recording it.


Others could not believe the way the boys were treated. "Im so shocked right now," wrote Vanessa McIntosh.
On Wednesday afternoon, Maribyrnong College principal Nick Scott accompanied the six boys involved in the incident to the Apple store at Highpoint where they sought an apology.
At about 3.30pm a senior manager from the store met with the teenagers.
"She apologised to us and told us that we are welcome here anytime," Mabior said. "It feels like we have justice now."
A spokeswoman from Apple said it was looking into the situation but said Apple was committed to cultural diversity and inclusion.


The spokeswoman supplied a quote from Apple chief executive Tim Cook, which reads: "We want every person who joins our team, every customer visiting our stores or calling for support to feel welcome.
"We believe in equality for everyone, regardless of race, age, gender, gender identity, ethnicity, religion, or sexual orientation. That applies throughout our company, around the world with no exceptions."

It is understood a private security guard hired by Apple first raised concerns about the teenagers being in the store. It was an Apple staff member who was shown in the video asking the teenagers to leave. A Highpoint security staff member was called to attend the incident, but did not get involved in the dispute.
Highpoint Centre Manager Ryan Ling said: "Melbourne's West is a multicultural area and we want to stress that Highpoint welcomes all guests."



  

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Sydney Morning Herald initials appropriate
Nov 11th 2015
1
fuck a fat lip, i'd leave that dude with a fat face
Nov 11th 2015
2
apple is racist? never heard this one before...
Nov 11th 2015
8
Siri called him a nigga
Nov 12th 2015
18
People click on anything that says Apple
Nov 12th 2015
19
      Nah, im talking about concretes anger at apple
Nov 12th 2015
20
           Oh - he's the guy who clicks on ANYTHING that says Apple
Nov 12th 2015
66
That'll help things
Nov 11th 2015
9
yeah, they already expect that as well from us
Nov 11th 2015
10
But isn't Apple ran by progressive-minded folks?
Nov 11th 2015
13
      He's full of shit on multiple counts...
Nov 11th 2015
14
           "Is we racist, boss?"
Nov 12th 2015
22
           Not trying to hear this from YOU OF ALL PEOPLE.
Nov 12th 2015
43
                Android freed the slaves bruh..
Nov 12th 2015
45
                Didn't say that either
Nov 12th 2015
46
                dass right, boss!
Nov 12th 2015
67
                     Not trying to hear this from you AT ALL.
Nov 12th 2015
73
                          dass right, suh!
Nov 12th 2015
75
                               You spout Raven Symone talking points and have the nerve to come at me.....
Nov 12th 2015
78
                                    ain't gon happen, boss.
Nov 12th 2015
80
                                         Nope, not hearing it from you
Nov 12th 2015
81
                                              All I got to do is make false accusations, boss!
Nov 12th 2015
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                                                   False accusations? WE notice your pattern of responding with coon shit.
Nov 12th 2015
91
                                                        and if i tell 'im us got ppl wit us dass enough, suh!
Nov 12th 2015
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                                                             Plenty of proof exists that you on some coon shit.
Nov 12th 2015
99
                                                                  and i ain't even gotta show nothin, suh!
Nov 12th 2015
103
           This is what I was referring to, you paint chip-swallowing dumbfuck
Nov 12th 2015
47
                ^^^^^ *Yawns at this FUCKING IDIOT*
Nov 12th 2015
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                     I'm not talking about in IRAN, I'm talking about Persian-Americans
Nov 12th 2015
70
                          WAT, you said IRAN
Nov 12th 2015
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                               I said Iranians, which would include Iranian-Americans, dude
Nov 12th 2015
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                                    RE: I said Iranians, which would include Iranian-Americans, dude
Nov 12th 2015
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                                         K, dude, I got your ass bent outta shape, another mission accomplished
Nov 12th 2015
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                                              Are you posting with your butt buddy's dick in your ass again?
Nov 12th 2015
87
                                                   Wow, homophobia, another sure sign of enlightenment
Nov 12th 2015
95
                                                        Where's homophobia? I'm merely pointing out the obvious.
Nov 12th 2015
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                                                             whut?
Nov 12th 2015
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All of your products have GPS and location services Apple.
Nov 11th 2015
3
what's wild to me is Australia is so homogeneous his racism is just casu...
Nov 11th 2015
4
Aboriginal Australians treatment history
Nov 11th 2015
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My cousin dealt with this on the daily out thataway
Nov 11th 2015
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is absolutely awful and a complete disgrace
Nov 12th 2015
25
it's almost refreshing as opposed to weasely U.S. shit w/ the same effec...
Nov 11th 2015
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It's actually the OECD's second most multicultural country.
Nov 12th 2015
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      a bunch of whites and Asians != diversity.
Nov 12th 2015
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           It's a nation of immigrants
Nov 12th 2015
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                Lol!
Nov 12th 2015
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                     Really, I was responding to the idea that Australia is homogenous.
Nov 12th 2015
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                          word.
Nov 12th 2015
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1rAGORFa3I
Nov 11th 2015
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oh..Melbourne? Yeah. I stopped reading when I saw that.
Nov 11th 2015
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Australia, consistently racist.
Nov 11th 2015
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Do you think it's more racist than the USA?
Nov 12th 2015
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      Do you think Australia needs to be defended on this point?
Nov 12th 2015
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      It's just irritating to have Americans consistently shit on Australia
Nov 12th 2015
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      youd prefer if ppl from a less racist country pointed out racism in Aus?
Nov 12th 2015
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      everyone's first move is to go for some hypocrite angle
Nov 12th 2015
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      But what about black on black crime? Where's the outrage???
Nov 12th 2015
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           Uff.
Nov 12th 2015
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                this is why you're awesome :)
Nov 12th 2015
110
      Fair question.
Nov 12th 2015
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           Apple seems to be handling it.
Nov 12th 2015
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      shit man pointing out the way australia is racist
Nov 12th 2015
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      You're right.
Nov 12th 2015
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           but Australians are outsiders themselves so--
Nov 12th 2015
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                ?
Nov 12th 2015
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                     I'm suggesting they're what they believed themselves to be
Nov 12th 2015
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      Wait so who is on the medal stand at this Olympics of racism?
Nov 12th 2015
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      They are equally racist. Don't need a Pew research study to know that.
Nov 12th 2015
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      Man, NZ's a laughing stock every other month on Last Week Tonight
Nov 12th 2015
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           yeah, you're right.
Nov 12th 2015
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                The Wallabies had a great run
Nov 12th 2015
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      Nah, you're right.
Nov 12th 2015
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           all good man
Nov 12th 2015
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      GOT EM'
Nov 12th 2015
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      equally as racist and IMO they treat the indigenous peoples worse
Nov 12th 2015
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similar boat
Nov 11th 2015
16
NZ isn't that bad if you have money
Nov 11th 2015
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I have the same concern.
Nov 12th 2015
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      You might be better off than the stingrays after Steve Irwin's death
Nov 12th 2015
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Have any of you ever experienced anything "racial" at an Apple Store?
Nov 12th 2015
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this guy has. he filed a lawsuit (link/swipe):
Nov 12th 2015
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An island of folks descended from drunkards, rapists, and thieves
Nov 12th 2015
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165,000 convicts were sent to Australia over 70 years.
Nov 12th 2015
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A little bit of yeast is all it takes to leaven bread.
Nov 12th 2015
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      okay.
Nov 12th 2015
34
           that boy wild... lol
Nov 12th 2015
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Do you read these things on sugar packets or what?
Nov 12th 2015
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      mad because I typed it or because it's true?
Nov 12th 2015
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      Wow folks caught feelings. I assumed it was jokes.
Nov 12th 2015
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      a bit of column 'A' a bit of column 'B'
Nov 12th 2015
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      No, I mean, I have no attachment to Australia whatsoever
Nov 12th 2015
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           So those 165,000 convicts were mostly wrongly accused folks
Nov 12th 2015
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                sometimes for incredibly minor things
Nov 12th 2015
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                It is known that some folks weren't hardened criminals
Nov 12th 2015
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                I'ma remember your logic as it applies to cons the next time ...
Nov 12th 2015
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                     not their blood just their culture. And don't forget the alcoholism.
Nov 12th 2015
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      he types like he is still on Yale's campus
Nov 12th 2015
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           don't encourage me
Nov 12th 2015
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                lol
Nov 12th 2015
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australia racist as shit
Nov 12th 2015
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To be fair, most places with white European men in charge have problems
Nov 12th 2015
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      there's a large number or indo mauritians that moved there
Nov 12th 2015
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           Perth is apparently among the worst areas or so I've heard
Nov 12th 2015
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           I've never been anywhere other than Sydney or Melbourne
Nov 12th 2015
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                i would think those two cities might be more tolerant due to tourism
Nov 12th 2015
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                     They're the biggest cities in Australia.
Nov 12th 2015
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Apple ejects - iont know why that title is killin me
Nov 12th 2015
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Synch complete:ok to eject 6 black students
Nov 12th 2015
107
Has Apple said anything yet?
Nov 12th 2015
93

veritas
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1. "Sydney Morning Herald initials appropriate"
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i still blame hip-hop.

  

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2. "fuck a fat lip, i'd leave that dude with a fat face"
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apple continues to be racist as fuck but i look forward to next cornball who posts a thread about how he can't have sex with or befriend someone who doesn't have the newest iphone.

they wanna make it out like an aberration but i guarantee it's not. and this is the same company excluding sales to iranians and koreans, no? let's not even talk about their labor practices.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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8. "apple is racist? never heard this one before..."
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now australians being racist... definitely heard it before

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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18. "Siri called him a nigga"
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19. "People click on anything that says Apple"
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People know Australians are racists - no click bait there.

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20. "Nah, im talking about concretes anger at apple"
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He makes it sound like Apple is southern rednecks and Android is Northern freedom fighters

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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66. "Oh - he's the guy who clicks on ANYTHING that says Apple"
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And then posts about it in a way that fits his agenda.

I do the same with any story on Republicans

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9. "That'll help things"
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10. "yeah, they already expect that as well from us"
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13. "But isn't Apple ran by progressive-minded folks?"
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Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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14. "He's full of shit on multiple counts..."
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... Apple can technically sell devices in Iran thanks to General License D-1 but Iran has to agree to it. Apple has 33 marketshare in South Korea. The only color Apple cares about is green and store employees in regions do not represent the full character of Apple.

  

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22. ""Is we racist, boss?""
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We not racist?

boss is good to us colored folk. give us phone let us call on off day. phone be shinin in the sun too. like a diamon. i left plantation one time and boss use phone to call fo da squad but dat MY fault fo leavin boss! us learn dat boss is good white folk - progressive white folk!

fuck you.

  

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43. "Not trying to hear this from YOU OF ALL PEOPLE."
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Especially not you, 'ol let-anything-slide-and-has-the-same-mentality-that-fostered-Raven-Symone's-thinking-ass-nigga. You can kindly get the fuck outta here with this bullshit.

FACTS for you fucks:
Tim Cook is Gay
Apple is very progressive
Apple only cares about money.
Apple holds 33 percent market share in South Korea
Apple can sell products to Iran.
This happened in Australia so it's a cultural thing.

  

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45. "Android freed the slaves bruh.."
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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46. "Didn't say that either"
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Gotdamn y'all so pressed and making outlandish statements reaching for more dumb shit. Another L for y'all.

  

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67. "dass right, boss!"
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us ain't gon let some field nigger tell us how to run boss house! dat fo us house niggers to mess wit not some ol no-count field nigger!

dass right, suh.

not gon let some field nigger tho shade on boss good name. boss is good white folk! boss is progressive. progressive folk cain't be racist, boss. it's just good sense. boss is good white folk!

fuck you.

  

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73. "Not trying to hear this from you AT ALL."
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With as much coon shit as you repeatedly regurgitate you have no grounds to stand on this issue.

  

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75. "dass right, suh!"
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ain't nobody gon' bad talk good white folk roun me, boss. no, suh!

fuck you.

  

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78. "You spout Raven Symone talking points and have the nerve to come at me....."
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You lose for even typing that coon shit.

  

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80. "ain't gon happen, boss."
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no worry bout nothin boss, especially not no no-count field nigger when i can make up quotes he never made and maybe stupid ppl will believe the bullshit if i just keep sayin it, suh!

it gon work, boss. no worry.

boss is good white folk! progressive! cain't be racist!

fuck you.

  

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81. "Nope, not hearing it from you "
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You've condoned entirely too much BS to have a perspective on this issue.

  

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90. "All I got to do is make false accusations, boss!"
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I tell lies about dat ol' field negro and he will stand down, suh! No worry - I ain't got no proof and don't need it! No suh. No worry.

fuck you.

  

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91. "False accusations? WE notice your pattern of responding with coon shit."
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WE understand your agenda.

  

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94. "and if i tell 'im us got ppl wit us dass enough, suh!"
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i ain't even got to show no proof of nothin which is good cuz dat proof don't exiss cuz i'm talkin shit dat ain't true.

no worry, boss! you good white folk and i ain't gon stand fo no field nigger sayin nothin bad bout you, suh!

fuck you.

  

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99. "Plenty of proof exists that you on some coon shit."
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I'm not the only person that sees it.

  

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103. "and i ain't even gotta show nothin, suh!"
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ain't no proof cuz i'm lyin bout what i say dat ol' field negro be sayin bout racial stuff but i ain't got to show none no way, boss. no worry.

fuck you.

  

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47. "This is what I was referring to, you paint chip-swallowing dumbfuck"
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http://rt.com/usa/news/apple-racism-iranians-us-334/print/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/19/apple-store-refuses-to-sell-ipad-to-iranian_n_1609734.html

An American teen was unable to shop at an Apple store simply because she was speaking Farsi with her uncle. What seems to be a clear-cut case of ethnic profiling turns out to be in line with official company policy.

Sabah Sabet, a 19-year old US citizen of Iranian extraction, and a student of the University of Georgia, took her uncle to buy an iPhone and an iPad at an Apple store in a mall in Alpharetta, Georgia, local news channel WSBTV reports.

But she was in for a shocker, as the store clerk refused to sell them the devices after he found out Sabet and her uncle were speaking Farsi.

“When we said ‘Farsi, I'm from Iran,’ he said, ‘I just can't sell this to you. Our countries have bad relations,’” Sabet recounted.
Sabet said the incident, which she describes as “discrimination” and “racial profiling,” was very hurtful and just as embarrassing.
“I actually walked out in tears,” she recalled.

Her experience is not unique. Zack Jafarzadeh was unable to buy an iPhone for his Farsi-speaking Iranian friend, studying in the US on a visa, at another Apple store in the Perimeter Mall in Atlanta, Georgia.

“We never talked about him going back to Iran or anything like that,” he noted. “He was just speaking full-fledged Farsi and the representative came back and denied our sale.”

He also stressed that the sales clerk was only concerned with the ethnicity of their client and not where the iPhone was going.

“I feel like this is a bit of racial profiling against Iranians, and I'm appalled,” Jafarzadeh said. “I would say if you're trying to buy an iPhone, don't tell them anything about Iran. That would be your best bet.”

The vendors at the stores in question said the decision not to sell the products to anyone from Iran was within the framework of the company’s policy.

Apple’s policy, posted on its official website, prohibits the exportation, sale or supply of any Apple goods, technologies to Iran, as well as North Korea, Cuba, Sudan and Syria without prior authorization from the US government. The policy also applies to a “US person, wherever located.”

However, the policy doesn’t seem to be very consistent. When Sabah Sabet called corporate customer relations, an employee apologized and said she would be able to buy what she wanted online.

American Muslim and Iranian advocacy organizations have already reacted to the surprising case of discrimination.

“Unfortunately, this is part of an escalating pattern in which increasingly broad sanctions on Iran are hitting the wrong people,” said Jamal Abdi, the Policy Direct of the National Iranian American Council, “Some of it is by design of Congress and the Administration, some of it is a lack of clarity about what is permitted, and some of it is over-enforcement of sanctions by private companies worried about running afoul of the law.”

“Apple must revise its policies to ensure that customers do not face discriminatory treatment based on their religion, ethnicity or national origin,” Nahad Awad, the National Executive Director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations stressed. “If the actions of these Apple employees reflected company policy, that policy must be changed and all employees retrained.”

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62. "^^^^^ *Yawns at this FUCKING IDIOT* "
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It's not solely Apple's discretion as to whether or not products are sold in Iran. You'd know this if you actually read up on the issue. But reading isn't your strong point anyway, dumbass. Apple is not racist because an employee in Georgia did not understand this issue.

What about "Apple is racist to Koreans"? Kindly shut the entire fuck up about shit you don't understand.

  

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70. "I'm not talking about in IRAN, I'm talking about Persian-Americans"
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Thu Nov-12-15 12:25 PM by ConcreteCharlie

  

          

And they are not the only nationality to face discrimination. Did you read the bit about this *not* being an isolated incident? About it being part of their policy? Are you functionally literate?

It looks like the one link is dead, that went into more detail about their policy and talked about Koreans.

By all means, continue caping. You are a sort of mush-headed consumer they covet.

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72. "WAT, you said IRAN"
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Thu Nov-12-15 12:41 PM by Kira

  

          

>And they are not the only nationality to face discrimination.
>Did you read the bit about this *not* being an isolated
>incident? About it being part of their policy? Are you
>functionally literate?
>
>It looks like the one link is dead, that went into more detail
>about their policy and talked about Koreans.
>
>By all means, continue caping. You are a sort of mush-headed
>consumer they covet.

>they wanna make it out like an aberration but i guarantee it's not. >and this is the same company excluding sales to iranians and >koreans, no? let's not even talk about their labor practices.

Here are a few links that reinforce what I said in the first place:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-in-talks-to-sell-iphone-in-iran-1414604199

http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-in-talks-to-start-selling-products-in-iran-2015-7?r=UK&IR=T

General License D-1 technically allows Apple to sell personal communication devices in Iran. However, this won't be place until 2016 at the earliest and is by no means proof that Apple does not want money over there. APPLE CARES ABOUT MAKING PROFITS JUST LIKE EVERY BUSINESS EVER.

This idea that Apple as a whole is racist and would not accept money from anyone is a joke due to race is a joke. Racist fuck, Georgia doesn't count.

Can you read motherfucker? Is this too much for you to comprehend?

  

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74. "I said Iranians, which would include Iranian-Americans, dude"
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And yes, I am perfectly capable of reading, fuck the regulations for those and other countries are even in the link I posted. What are you even arguing about now? Your brain is so small that it can't comprehend ass shit or sift through what's important in something very short. YES, they discriminate against AMERICAN consumers because of their heritage. NO, it is not a one-off thing, on an "unwritten law," it's part of their policy. Don't you have an unplanned sabbatical on the run to take? Bye, dummy.

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76. "RE: I said Iranians, which would include Iranian-Americans, dude"
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>And yes, I am perfectly capable of reading, fuck the
>regulations for those and other countries are even in the link
>I posted. What are you even arguing about now? Your brain is
>so small that it can't comprehend ass shit or sift through
>what's important in something very short. YES, they
>discriminate against AMERICAN consumers because of their
>heritage. NO, it is not a one-off thing, on an "unwritten
>law," it's part of their policy. Don't you have an unplanned
>sabbatical on the run to take? Bye, dummy.

You said Apple is racist because they don't sell products to Iranians and Koreans. I thoroughly debunked that myth. I'm smarter than you NEVER FORGET THIS. Apple discriminates against American consumers now? You mean to tell me Apple is racist against hard working Americans? You get an A+ for agenda driven shitposting by the way. You're an idiot and your responses continue to prove my point.

How is Apple racist against Koreans? You mentioned that as well but again reading isn't your strong suit.

  

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83. "K, dude, I got your ass bent outta shape, another mission accomplished"
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What are you crying about? They discriminate against people of Iranian descent, among other ethnicities, and they do so as a matter of company policy. You keep saying ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS MONEY. All slave owners cared about was money, fucktard.

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87. "Are you posting with your butt buddy's dick in your ass again?"
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>What are you crying about? They discriminate against people
>of Iranian descent, among other ethnicities, and they do so as
>a matter of company policy. You keep saying ALL THEY CARE
>ABOUT IS MONEY. All slave owners cared about was money,
>fucktard.

How does Apple discriminate against Koreans? You refuse to answer the question. Just say it's your opinion and keep it moving.

A store employee in a racist place is not proof of Apple discriminating against customers buying from them. Anyone that understands Apple's business model knows why this is BS. Why you are bringing up slave owners? Equating Apple with slave owners is sheer bullshit and you know it. Once again, I get your agenda. Be this bold in real life.

  

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95. "Wow, homophobia, another sure sign of enlightenment"
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It wasn't ONE EMPLOYEE. It's part of their policy. READ the fucking article. Iran is not the ONLY country part of said policy either.

And I didn't compare Apple with slave owners, you fucking illiterate shithead. What I am saying is that is your ignorant ass defense that "They only care about money" does not absolve them of being racists! Jesus, you are dense.

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98. "Where's homophobia? I'm merely pointing out the obvious."
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>It wasn't ONE EMPLOYEE. It's part of their policy. READ the
>fucking article. Iran is not the ONLY country part of said
>policy either.

You READ THE FUCKING ARTICLE. If you did you'd know that Apple's policies are fluid and change. The examples of racism cited in this post occurred at stores and do not reflect upon Apple. If they did and Apple was racist every competitor would seize that opportunity to tarnish Apple's brand.
>
>And I didn't compare Apple with slave owners, you fucking
>illiterate shithead. What I am saying is that is your ignorant
>ass defense that "They only care about money" does not absolve
>them of being racists! Jesus, you are dense.

Yes, you compared Apple with slave owners FUCKING MORON in a very subtle manner. Stop running and moving goalposts. How is Apple racist towards Koreans? You said that as well....

  

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100. "whut?"
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the obvious that i have a penis in my rectum? no, that's some old school homophobia, the type that was common on here like ten years ago.

and no, what i said was that slave owners only cared about money, the racism was a means to the money. only caring about money doesn't mean you're not racist, nor does it absolve or any social or ethical responsibility. you say "they only care about money" like some catch-all thing that people are supposed to just ease off of. only caring about money is a despicable quality in most cases.

anyway you get the last word, corky.

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3. "All of your products have GPS and location services Apple. "
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4. "what's wild to me is Australia is so homogeneous his racism is just casu..."
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Yeah. Right, okay we think you're going to steal something, and that's that. Alright, yeah, end of discussion. Have a good day lads. Off with ya now.

No coded language or anything.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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6. " Aboriginal Australians treatment history"
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>Yeah. Right, okay we think you're going to steal something,
>and that's that. Alright, yeah, end of discussion. Have a good
>day lads. Off with ya now.
>
>No coded language or anything.
>
>

  

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12. "My cousin dealt with this on the daily out thataway"
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he was social worker out there and dealt mostly with Aborigines. He's got stories about how fucked up and racist it is.

---------------------------

"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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25. "is absolutely awful and a complete disgrace"
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almost right up there with the USA's treatment of its indigenous people.

  

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7. "it's almost refreshing as opposed to weasely U.S. shit w/ the same effec..."
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ALMOST

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24. "It's actually the OECD's second most multicultural country."
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and a quarter of the country's population was born abroad.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-11-17/australia-second-most-multicultural-country/2339884

Australia has a unique history that has shaped the diversity of its peoples, their cultures and lifestyles today. Three major contributors to Australia's demographic make-up are a diverse Indigenous population, a British colonial past and extensive immigration from many different countries and cultures. Today, Australia's population of about 23 million is one of the most culturally and linguistically diverse populations in the world.

Although the majority of the population are Australian born, more than 75% of Australians identified with an ancestry other than Australian in the 2011 Census. About 2% of Australians come from Indigenous backgrounds and about 43% have at least one parent who has born overseas. 30% of the population were born in another country. Of the overseas born, the major countries of birth are England, New Zealand and China. About 8.5% of Australians were born in non-English speaking countries . In all, Australians come from over 200 birthplaces.

Collectively, Australians speak over 200 languages. Languages other than English are spoken by about 16% of the population with about 61,000 people speaking an Indigenous language. Other than English, the most common languages spoken today are Chinese, Italian, Greek and Arabic. There are over 50 Indigenous languages and Australian creoles actively spoken by Australians.

http://www.racismnoway.com.au/about-racism/population/

  

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30. "a bunch of whites and Asians != diversity."
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We see this on college campuses at elite schools. We see this in major cities on the Pacific coast. It's not new to us. And it's not 'diversity'. And 'diversity' in and of itself isn't necesarily worthy of praise. We're concerned with how minorities are treated not just with raw stats with percentages. I hear too many horror stories from non-white ppl about mistreatment in Australia to give the nation a cookie bc ppl there speak lots of different languages.

fuck you.

  

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33. "It's a nation of immigrants"
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far more so than the US.

not asking for cookies.

asking you not to be hypocrites.

it may be too much to ask.

  

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35. "Lol! "
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It's a nation full of immigrants where certain racial/ethnic minorities are mistreated at the hands of immigrants.

Cool.

Hypocrisy? Lol.

fuck you.

  

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51. "Really, I was responding to the idea that Australia is homogenous."
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It's very far from being so, particularly in the cities.

That said, this incident is inexcusable.

  

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68. "word."
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fuck you.

  

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5. "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1rAGORFa3I"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1rAGORFa3I

  

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11. "oh..Melbourne? Yeah. I stopped reading when I saw that. "
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i still want to visit australia as I find the people for the most part, um, interesting

but, thanks to the internet I've heard that shit is not peaches and cream there with regards to race

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15. "Australia, consistently racist."
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should be their tourism slogan

  

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26. "Do you think it's more racist than the USA?"
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If so, how?

  

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31. "Do you think Australia needs to be defended on this point?"
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Do you think that pointing out other more racist countries is a valid defense? If other nations treat some racial/ethnic minorities worse does that mean Australia's racial/ethnic minorities are not mistreated?

fuck you.

  

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32. "It's just irritating to have Americans consistently shit on Australia "
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for being racist when arguably your own problems with racism are far worse.

  

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36. "youd prefer if ppl from a less racist country pointed out racism in Aus?"
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You're more bothered by Americans talking about it than you are bothered by Aus racism?

fuck you.

  

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40. "everyone's first move is to go for some hypocrite angle"
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i find that interesting

  

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42. "But what about black on black crime? Where's the outrage???"
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53. "Uff."
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If that's how I was sounding, I apologise.

  

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110. "this is why you're awesome :)"
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44. "Fair question."
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The answer is no. This incident is sn absolute disgrace and is completely abhorrent. It was completely unacceptable and I hope people lose their jobs over it. At the very least.

  

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69. "Apple seems to be handling it."
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thankfully.

fuck you.

  

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39. "shit man pointing out the way australia is racist"
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certainly signifies the idea that i think there is no or less racism in america


wtf is wrong with you

  

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50. "You're right."
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I was out of line.

Australia absolutely deserves criticism for its treatment of its indigenous people and the way it handles refugees, for just two examples.

And I'm all too happy to do so. It just rankles a little to have outsiders so so, but that's silly.

  

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57. "but Australians are outsiders themselves so--"
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there's that.

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58. "?"
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are you suggesting that indigenous Australians are not Australians?

  

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64. "I'm suggesting they're what they believed themselves to be"
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before another group of people told them they were something else.

Kind of like how the Cherokee were simply that before they were called "Indians" by people who did not actually reach India.

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48. "Wait so who is on the medal stand at this Olympics of racism?"
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Russia? U.S.?

What is the point of comparing? If things are fucked in both places, let's just say that.

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55. "They are equally racist. Don't need a Pew research study to know that."
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Plenty of room for both to be shit on. LOL @ "worse than" Australia is no better than the US when it comes to racism/white supremacy. The native people of Australia, the many Chinese that migrated there during the gold rush, and other groups have all been on the receiving end.

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85. "Man, NZ's a laughing stock every other month on Last Week Tonight"
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>for being racist when arguably your own problems with racism
>are far worse.
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But sometimes the shoe fits. We embarrassed ourselves again over sexual abuse this week. I think it's good if other nations pile on and the criticism is fair. Raise awareness, shame the shameful and it could lead to more impetus for change.

Just IMO though.

  

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102. "yeah, you're right."
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i had to pull my head in.

congrats on the rugby, btw.

  

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108. "The Wallabies had a great run"
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>i had to pull my head in.
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>congrats on the rugby, btw.

Some are grizzling about Steve Hansen missing out on coach of the year but Cheika getting it was arguably a fair call. No-one rated them that much going into the cup.

2019 will be interesting without McCaw, Carter or Steve Hansen.

(To be honest, I was ambivalent about the World Cup because of the boost our Prime Minister gets off it by association).

But really, you guys won the Rugby League World Cup, Cricket and Netball World Cups this year. Twas only fair we got one.

Just IMO though.

  

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52. "Nah, you're right."
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I was out of line.

  

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63. "all good man"
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38. "GOT EM'"
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86. "equally as racist and IMO they treat the indigenous peoples worse"
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I never thought I'd see a place that treated the native people worse than The US... Canada is right up there, but Australia???

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Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
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16. "similar boat"
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i want to visit there (and NZ)
but that's a long flight for some discrimination
AUS is a destination for sudanese refugees and a lot of african international students go there for school so i wonder if there are things for blk ppl to do with other blk ppl at the minimum

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17. "NZ isn't that bad if you have money"
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and stay in the big cities.

Leave Auckland and/or Wellington and bigotry can be pretty common outside of the tourist spots.

Just IMO though.

  

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37. "I have the same concern."
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But I figure if I can deal with the racism here I can handle it down there. I expect it to be of the West Coast variety in the major cities and maybe a bit more Southern-fried in the outlying/rural areas. And I'd only be a visitor so if some shenanigans go down I'd likely laugh the shit off and be glad I'm leaving soon. But most likely nothing real out of pocket would happen and if it did I'm sure I'd be fine.

fuck you.

  

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56. "You might be better off than the stingrays after Steve Irwin's death "
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21. "Have any of you ever experienced anything "racial" at an Apple Store?"
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23. "this guy has. he filed a lawsuit (link/swipe):"
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http://atlantablackstar.com/2014/05/30/apple-store-employee-files-racism-lawsuit-company/


Employee Files Racism Lawsuit Against Apple
May 30, 2014 | Posted by Leo

An Apple employee has filed suit against the company claiming that racism led to his promotion denial.

Andrew Dupree, 31, of Orlando, Fla., says in the suit that he took his concerns about African-Americans being denied opportunities for advancement all the way to CEO Tim Cook, but that he was ignored and left with no choice but to take his case to court.

A complaint filed Dec. 18 with the Florida Commission on Human Relations and obtained by Radar Online details management’s alleged preference for white employees.

Dupree also claimed that a manager once told him that “Black employees don’t reach management in this market.”

“When I was in the Orlando store under the supervision of , senior manager, she had made a statement prior to me transferring to Australia that Blacks in the Orlando location don’t have a chance to make it to management,” the document reads.

“I did not express my concern to management at that time because I was transferring to Australia.”

He then dramatically increased the results of the tech giant’s “Easy Pay Program,” which encourages shoppers to make in-store purchases from their Apple devices, from 1.4 percent of total sales to 14 percent after arriving in Sydney, he said.
Dupree believes those results merited a promotion.

“I did numbers myself and then I trained employees. I wrote a full synopsis to make it a sustainable goal for entire store,” said Dupree.

He decided to return to the U.S. after a year down under, but was rebuffed by the Orlando store.

“I was not given a job, despite being told that I was going to be given a transfer, because of one manager’s racism,” insisted Dupree.

Dupree took his claims directly to the top, asking on August 28, 2013, via email, for a meeting with Cook, but was instead offered a talk with two human resources representatives the following month.

That meeting finally happened in October 2013, but nothing came of it, said Dupree, leading to him filing his lawsuit.

“I filed my complaint because of what I have seen and heard in my market,” he said. “You hear it so much that you get numb to it.

‘Then I tried to move up the ladder and nothing happened. I watched people around me who did less work getting promoted and none of them were Black. The last straw was when my manager destroyed my chances of moving up.”

An Apple spokesperson told Radar Online that the company responded to his claims earlier this month but offered no further comment.

fuck you.

  

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27. "An island of folks descended from drunkards, rapists, and thieves "
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Will act accordingly.

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28. "165,000 convicts were sent to Australia over 70 years."
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from 1788 to the 1850s.

700,000 people emigrated to Australia in the ten years of the gold rush alone (in the 1850s).

There have been 6.5 million immigrants to Australia since WW2.

The overwhelming majority of Australian are not descended from convicts at all. And even then, a great number of those who were sent to Australia as convicts were largely sent basically for being poor or Irish.

  

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29. "A little bit of yeast is all it takes to leaven bread."
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34. "okay."
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41. "that boy wild... lol"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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49. "Do you read these things on sugar packets or what?"
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It always astonishes me how acceptable nationalist drivel and international ignorance are. Like you can be the most anal, PC motherfucker in your country and then when it comes to someone who lives inside other borders, just let loose with the most hackneyed, inaccurate shit possible.

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54. "mad because I typed it or because it's true? "
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The US is no better, nor Brazil, or South Africa, or any other place with similar historical origins.

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60. "Wow folks caught feelings. I assumed it was jokes. "
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61. "a bit of column 'A' a bit of column 'B' "
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folks really don't like to talk about root causes around here.

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71. "No, I mean, I have no attachment to Australia whatsoever"
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But the idea that its roots are the worst of Britain or some other such nonsense is a load of shit.

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88. "So those 165,000 convicts were mostly wrongly accused folks "
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Didn't come from a place where alchohol was better to drink than water and didn't spend days on end drinking alchohol en route to Australia (for the same reasons). These folks, accompanied by offen cruel and equally alchohic overseers were not the first settlers of Australia?

I'm just not understanding what's a crock of shit in regard to the nations founding.

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96. "sometimes for incredibly minor things"
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http://usvsth3m.com/post/67764562807/8-incredibly-minor-crimes-that-would-get-you-shipped

serious crimes, like the ones you claimed, were punished in Britain by the death penalty.

  

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105. "It is known that some folks weren't hardened criminals "
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however where are the numbers saying most sent were for minor offenses? The site you linked does not imply that. Only that some were for minor offenses.

Second did jail on land and then at sea make those convicted of minor offenses better people by the time they arrived to abuse the people already living there? Combine this with the rampant alcoholism that no one is addressing. Are we saying theses folks arrived with no chips on their shoulders or axes to grind? History seems to say something quite the contrary.

No good can come of people who were drunkards being jailed for major to minor offenses and being mistreated first at home then being shipped on floating jails where they were likely further mistreated to ihabit another place of virtually no return which they would ultimately self govern. This in addition to all the while having a steady influx of alcohol. Furthermore there are the men sent to oversee these convicts -- men who were likely no better in character than a plantation overseer. Experts at mistreating their own people in addition to those they would later encounter. Are these not the first planted seeds of the country?

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97. "I'ma remember your logic as it applies to cons the next time ..."
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we are talking black America and the prison system, and I'ma show the same broad-brush painting, harsh judging attitude you are.

England during that time period was not exactly a beacon for social justice and economic equality. I will leave it that. Shockzilla already answered your question if you bothered to read at all, first regarding the proportion of immigrants to the country that came as convicts and second to the identity/crimes of most of those convicts. The serious crimes you're talking about weren't what people were sent for, usually the British would just kill your ass for anything that violent (or less).

I'm not saying the place doesn't have serious problems, but to act like being bloodthirsty rapists is in their blood or something is just ignorant shit.

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106. "not their blood just their culture. And don't forget the alcoholism."
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And really we can boil "blood thirsty rapists" down to cruel and heartless people. I'd of course say the same for the US so I'm not playing favorites or anything.

As far as black folks and convictions go -- by all means please remember what I've typed. I look forward to a day when brown skinned ex convicts can have the opportunity to run their own country.

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59. "he types like he is still on Yale's campus"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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65. "don't encourage me"
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79. "lol"
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77. "australia racist as shit"
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this is no surprise

  

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82. "To be fair, most places with white European men in charge have problems"
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Especially if they deal with indigenous issues and high (illegal) immigration.

Just IMO though.

  

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84. "there's a large number or indo mauritians that moved there"
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a lot of them for college
there have been numerous reports of them being beaten or harassed in perth

i thought about going there while we were in mauritius, but then i was like, i'm good, i'll go to thailand instead, lol.

  

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89. "Perth is apparently among the worst areas or so I've heard "
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101. "I've never been anywhere other than Sydney or Melbourne"
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>a lot of them for college
>there have been numerous reports of them being beaten or
>harassed in perth
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>i thought about going there while we were in mauritius, but
>then i was like, i'm good, i'll go to thailand instead, lol.

I look like any number of maligned minorities but I've never had any problems in those cities.

Just IMO though.

  

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104. "i would think those two cities might be more tolerant due to tourism"
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but fuck perth!

a lot of mauritians have opted for canada, france and england instead.

  

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109. "They're the biggest cities in Australia."
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Both have roughly 4 and a half million people.

Melbourne is the world's biggest Greek city after Athens.

  

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92. "Apple ejects - iont know why that title is killin me "
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107. "Synch complete:ok to eject 6 black students"
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93. "Has Apple said anything yet?"
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