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veritas
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Tue Nov-03-15 10:28 PM

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"I feel like most death traditions reflect humanity's inherent awfulness"


          

Not Viking funerals really, I'm good with them. burning barges while wasteful seem dope.

On a global ecological type level though I feel like our more common funeral customs (embalmed burial or cremation) are basically a final fuck you to the world we live in.

We been eating plants and animals basically non-stop since we left our moms' tits and as our last act most people basically say thanks for all the nourishment, world, I got between 95 and 295 pounds of meat bones and other matter that could be consumed to sustain life in the ecosystem and I'm going to either poison the ever loving shit out of it and put it in a $7000 box or burn it up using fossil fuels and pulverize what bits remain in to dust.

I'm fucked up but that's fucked up. Ain't it? Iono man. It's all fucked up.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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^ sees it.
Nov 03rd 2015
1
so you are saying the Tibetans got it right?
Nov 04th 2015
2
Id be a liar if I claimed to know Tibetan traditions
Nov 04th 2015
3
      shits wild aint it?
Nov 04th 2015
5
           Kinda fits perfect with my adopted Colorado home too
Nov 04th 2015
10
I'd like to go the natural burial route.
Nov 04th 2015
4
it does kinda reflect the idea of we as humans think of ourselves
Nov 04th 2015
6
right? Maybe that's what I mean. It's an exceptionalism that defies
Nov 04th 2015
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I agree
Nov 04th 2015
8
I aint especially lookin to assign fault or blame here
Nov 04th 2015
9
http://www.urbandeathproject.org/
Nov 04th 2015
11
dope.
Nov 04th 2015
12
Dig a shallow hole in nature, not a cemetery and throw my naked body in ...
Nov 04th 2015
13
^^^
Nov 04th 2015
14

Mike Jackson
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Tue Nov-03-15 11:52 PM

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1. "^ sees it."
In response to Reply # 0


          

  

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GriftyMcgrift
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Wed Nov-04-15 12:05 AM

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2. "so you are saying the Tibetans got it right?"
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sky burial ftw

  

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veritas
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Wed Nov-04-15 12:09 AM

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3. "Id be a liar if I claimed to know Tibetan traditions"
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Wed Nov-04-15 12:10 AM by veritas

          

But I'm certainly open to the idea they got it right.

Edit:' yea Wiki'd sky burial and i can def get along with this.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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GriftyMcgrift
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Wed Nov-04-15 12:22 AM

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5. "shits wild aint it?"
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but makes sense on several levels

  

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veritas
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Wed Nov-04-15 01:06 AM

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10. "Kinda fits perfect with my adopted Colorado home too"
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But I expect it's illegal as hell in America

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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Moonlit_Force
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Wed Nov-04-15 12:18 AM

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4. "I'd like to go the natural burial route."
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I'm likely to get cremated by my family tho and I'm alright with that.

Anything over "traditional" burial with embalming.

  

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GriftyMcgrift
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Wed Nov-04-15 12:34 AM

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6. "it does kinda reflect the idea of we as humans think of ourselves"
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as "special"


the idea that we need to protect the body in a certain way to prepare it for whats beyond instead of relinquishing to the earth as is natural.

  

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veritas
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Wed Nov-04-15 12:49 AM

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7. "right? Maybe that's what I mean. It's an exceptionalism that defies"
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Any logic I can comprehend.

Maybe we are inhabited by divine souls that require special treatment for passage to an afterlife but it seems less likely than that we're destroying the very elements that connect us to our world and our universe.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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Ted Gee Seal
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Wed Nov-04-15 12:54 AM

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8. "I agree"
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>Not Viking funerals really, I'm good with them. burning
>barges while wasteful seem dope.
>
>On a global ecological type level though I feel like our more
>common funeral customs (embalmed burial or cremation) are
>basically a final fuck you to the world we live in.
>
>We been eating plants and animals basically non-stop since we
>left our moms' tits and as our last act most people basically
>say thanks for all the nourishment, world, I got between 95
>and 295 pounds of meat bones and other matter that could be
>consumed to sustain life in the ecosystem and I'm going to
>either poison the ever loving shit out of it and put it in a
>$7000 box or burn it up using fossil fuels and pulverize what
>bits remain in to dust.
>
>I'm fucked up but that's fucked up. Ain't it? Iono man. It's
>all fucked up.

I wonder how much of it is the fault of the deceased rather than those left behind though.

Just IMO though.

  

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veritas
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9. "I aint especially lookin to assign fault or blame here"
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And I'd certainly agree it's more about the feelings of those left behind than the wishes of the deceased.

He'll even when the wishes of the deceased are clearly articulated prior to death I tend to think a lot of those wishes are designed to accommodate the feelings of those still living.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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dba_BAD
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Wed Nov-04-15 01:07 AM

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11. "http://www.urbandeathproject.org/"
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http://www.urbandeathproject.org/

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fairweather

  

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veritas
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Wed Nov-04-15 01:16 AM

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12. "dope."
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With this and various natural burial options i think it's great people are giving this some thought.

I halfway expected a lot of really dismissive replies in this post. More than halfway, really. This has been a (positive) unexpected response.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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calij81
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Wed Nov-04-15 01:45 AM

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13. "Dig a shallow hole in nature, not a cemetery and throw my naked body in ..."
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Then plant a native tree over my gravesite as a natural tombstone and let my body decompose to the soil to feed the tree and nature.

No one beyond my grandchildren will remember me or come and visit my grave site anyways.

  

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SoWhat
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Wed Nov-04-15 08:14 AM

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14. "^^^"
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fuck you.

  

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