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SoWhat
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"what happens to out-dated illicit drugs?"


  

          

where have all the quaaludes gone?

are they still making lsd?

what if i wanted some barbiturates? do i have to go to Mexico?

i ask b/c a client recently tested positive for pcp while on probation. pcp. in 2015. i asked if she brought it back in the Delorean. b/c where does a person find pcp in 2015?

fuck you.

  

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Dusty niggas do dust. There will always be a market
Oct 13th 2015
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i'm surprised anyone still makes it.
Oct 13th 2015
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      whuuuut? its niggas and messicans in LA still smokin water
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           its niggas in Chicago still smoking it too.
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           It's big in Houston too
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                anywhere with a bunch of dusty niggas
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                     Lol
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RE: I knew a dude who was very into psychedelics.
Oct 13th 2015
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a friend who deals w/undergrads mentioned lsd the other week.
Oct 13th 2015
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      RE: It was pretty fun and intense when I tried it.
Oct 13th 2015
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           i have plenty experience w/it.
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                I can't imagine dropping acid past the age of 25
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                RE: This dude mentioned above is in his 40's.
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                i did. and i know several ppl who have.
Oct 13th 2015
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                i know *exactly* what you mean
Oct 13th 2015
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                never dropped...but been thinking about trying
Oct 13th 2015
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                     if you dig shrooms it's worth trying.
Oct 13th 2015
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                     word. thanks. sound advice.
Oct 13th 2015
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                     just say yes
Oct 13th 2015
50
blue magic, baby
Oct 13th 2015
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Good question....i prolly couldn't find any of the above in town
Oct 13th 2015
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that's one reason i'm surprised by this pcp client.
Oct 13th 2015
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I read that acid has largely disappeared because penalties are too high
Oct 13th 2015
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some college kids still use it.
Oct 13th 2015
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      I know, but it's very scarce now
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           yes but it was 'the drug of summer 2015' in the UK.
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           Yeah because ONE GUY was making a substantial amount
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                William Leonard Pickard
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Is there a legit use for sherm?
Oct 13th 2015
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pcp = schedule ii
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its embalming fluid nephew
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      it isn't.
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      RE: it isn't.
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           pcp is NOT embalming fluid.
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                k
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      it's a tranquilizer.
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      There's a difference
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           I learned from Master P - Bout it
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It'll come back around.
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up in this post like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8fkHhDwFbc
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RE: Where does salvia fall in all this?
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good one.
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I did it a couple of times and never got "high"
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RE: The stories I heard were all bad, so when I was offered. . .
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how strong was the extract?
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      Mix a decent strength standardized extract with some herb.
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i used to have a friend who always had strong salvia, but never used it ...
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You can still get it in stores in Toronto.
Oct 14th 2015
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We gon hit a stick, all of it, not a little bit
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sherrrrrrrrm stiiiiiiiiiiicc
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LOL he loved that "Lovely"
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drugs hardly ever go out of style
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Older people speak so fondly of Ludes
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      RE: I'm too young. . .
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           https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methaqualone
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anybody ever fuck with DMT or 2CB?
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i wanna try 2CB.
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      Jmmm, it's kinda like that but not really, it's over very fast
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           no, thanks.
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           RE: Jmmm, it's kinda like that but not really, it's over very fast
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                RE: I've experienced that while sober.
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                Kinda, like you have a sort of out-of-body, out-of-reality experience
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"GIVE HIM SOME MILK!"
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it's around
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acid is still gettin made
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90's party/rave heads: what's the diff between rolls, beans, x, and moll...
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there is absolutely no difference.
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The other big ones in the scene were GHB and K
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i've had enough of both.
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      i hated everyone of my friends that did GHB
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           yup.
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I used to sell powdered MDMA small-time during the late 90's
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      the big difference to me is that ...
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           Not sure if you heard....
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                In most cases the adulterants are worse than the substance
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IMO the quality has declined considerably since those days
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They addressed the quaaludes thing in Wolf of Wall Street
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Acid definitely happens over here.
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John Forte
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1. "Dusty niggas do dust. There will always be a market "
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5. "i'm surprised anyone still makes it."
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fuck you.

  

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18. "whuuuut? its niggas and messicans in LA still smokin water"
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30. "its niggas in Chicago still smoking it too."
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apparently.

i'm surprised.

fuck you.

  

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38. "It's big in Houston too"
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39. "anywhere with a bunch of dusty niggas"
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41. "Lol"
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2. "RE: I knew a dude who was very into psychedelics."
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Smoked weed every day. Dropped acid once every few months. Mushrooms every couple weeks.

They're still out there.



"1) God doesn't exist

2) And anyhow he's stupid"
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3. "a friend who deals w/undergrads mentioned lsd the other week."
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apparently some college kids are still into it. so i guess if i wanted some of that i'd have him hunt for me on his college campus.

fuck you.

  

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6. "RE: It was pretty fun and intense when I tried it."
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But once was enough for me.



"1) God doesn't exist

2) And anyhow he's stupid"
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9. "i have plenty experience w/it."
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enough that i don't want to use it again.

fuck you.

  

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19. "I can't imagine dropping acid past the age of 25"
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and I'm not one who likes putting arbitrary age cut-offs on things.

  

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20. "RE: This dude mentioned above is in his 40's."
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Holds down a job, owns a house and is generally a "successful" person.



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2) And anyhow he's stupid"
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25. "i did. and i know several ppl who have."
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i'm not into lsd anymore b/c the last stuff i used was so strong i didn't enjoy it.

fuck you.

  

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46. "i know *exactly* what you mean"
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when you're young and eager and have the right mindset, LSD is a beautiful fucking thing. when you have real shit to worry about and/or you've lived a little, it might get too intense. it's not like shrooms either where you can kinda fight the trip and neutralize it. buy the ticket, take the ride. i never had a negative experience with either but i also do not want to. i did both past 25 but not much past, maybe like 27. once i took them together, whoa, that was explosive even with a smaller-than-usual dose of each. taking LSD and E together is pretty awesome, it ensures a positive vibe and they have a synergistic reaction as well.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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31. "never dropped...but been thinking about trying"
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but now lol maybe not after your comment
i love shrooms so was thinking about giving it a spin
kind of been toying with experimenting with psychadelics albeit infrequently

the key to happiness is not being rich;
it's doing something arduous and
creating something of value and then
being able to reflect on the fruits of your labor

  

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33. "if you dig shrooms it's worth trying."
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but try it w/an experienced, trusted guide in a safe environment.

fuck you.

  

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40. "word. thanks. sound advice."
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the key to happiness is not being rich;
it's doing something arduous and
creating something of value and then
being able to reflect on the fruits of your labor

  

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50. "just say yes"
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different level than mushies, worth doing for sure

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4. "blue magic, baby"
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7. "Good question....i prolly couldn't find any of the above in town"
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if I tried


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10. "that's one reason i'm surprised by this pcp client."
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lol

fuck you.

  

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8. "I read that acid has largely disappeared because penalties are too high"
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And profits are too low. Dudes were getting life for a fucking $200 sheet. And there aren't any addicts so volume will never make up for slim margins.

  

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11. "some college kids still use it."
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i just learned that via a friend a couple of weeks ago.

fuck you.

  

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13. "I know, but it's very scarce now"
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http://metro.co.uk/2015/01/09/the-world-is-running-out-of-lsd-apparently-5016088/

Apparently the major manufacturer is gone.

  

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15. "yes but it was 'the drug of summer 2015' in the UK."
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http://thetab.com/2015/07/30/a-new-summer-of-love-lsd-use-hits-record-high-for-15-years-47199

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16. "Yeah because ONE GUY was making a substantial amount"
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of the world's supply. Which crazy to think about.

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32. "William Leonard Pickard"
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This is one of the more entertaining wiki-holes to go down:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Leonard_Pickard

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12. "Is there a legit use for sherm?"
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I know ludes are almost impossible to find because they banned them in the US for pharmaceutical use. Same with acid. Anything you find now is a homebrew.

But vets still use ketamine, so even though it's passé, it's still around.

  

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14. "pcp = schedule ii"
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which means it has some medical use. i dunno what. i believe i've read that it has some veterinary use as a tranquilizer.

http://www.dea.gov/druginfo/ds.shtml

fuck you.

  

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17. "its embalming fluid nephew"
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22. "it isn't. "
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niggas can and do smoke embalming fluid and get similar effects, but it's not pcp.

  

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24. "RE: it isn't. "
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boat is pcp & boat is embalming fluid ; same as water & the rest of that shit

  

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28. "pcp is NOT embalming fluid."
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fuck you.

  

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29. "k"
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23. "it's a tranquilizer."
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the embalming fluid thing is a long-standing myth.

http://matadornetwork.com/nights/lies-misconceptions-and-urban-myths-about-your-favorite-drugs/

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27. "There's a difference"
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Just looked it up...

Originally PCP was used for people as an anesthetic. That was banned, but some overseas vets still use it, so that's why it's still manufactured.

It's used by dipping a cig or joint in it...that's sherm, wet, love boat...etc..

from wiki..
Embalming fluid

A commonly held misconception is that phencyclidine (PCP, angel dust) is the same as (or is synthesized from) embalming fluid. Some people, believing this myth, have actually attempted to smoke cigarettes or cannabis dipped in real embalming fluid (i.e. formaldehyde), which is highly toxic. Conversely, some users of PCP-laced cannabis believe (and are often told) that it contains embalming fluid proper and not PCP, or that the slang term "dust" really means embalming fluid proper. Sometimes, the two substances are even mixed together, in a further ostension of this legend. Such concoctions are often called "fry," "wet," "illy," "sherm," "worm," "water-water," "amp," "dust(ed)," or other names.

  

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34. "I learned from Master P - Bout it"
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You best not fuck with them fools that gone on that water, water
I mean that clicker juice, fermaldahide
Whatever you want, the more they dip in cigarettes to get high
Like some alcohol, niggas don't even give a fuck


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21. "It'll come back around. "
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26. "up in this post like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8fkHhDwFbc"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8fkHhDwFbc

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35. "RE: Where does salvia fall in all this?"
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Was that just a flash in the pan?



"1) God doesn't exist

2) And anyhow he's stupid"
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36. "good one."
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fuck you.

  

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37. "I did it a couple of times and never got "high""
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disjointed or disoriented, maybe, but surely not "high".

  

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44. "RE: The stories I heard were all bad, so when I was offered. . ."
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. . .I declined.



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47. "how strong was the extract?"
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IMO anything less than 10X and you will just feel weird. i think it's a pretty crappy drug. it also tastes/smells bad.

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72. "Mix a decent strength standardized extract with some herb."
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You also need a high heat source, i.e. bowl w/ a lighter (or torch). You prolly won't get the same effects if you mix it in a j, b/c it has a higher vaporizing point:

http://www.sagewisdom.org/smokeadvice.html

In my younger days I've had legit visionary experiences off that combo. Strong OEV, audio, the whole nine.

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54. "i used to have a friend who always had strong salvia, but never used it ..."
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he got off on giving people their first ever strong dose of salvia and watching them.

i never went for it.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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74. "You can still get it in stores in Toronto."
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I tried it once. Kinda reminded me of huffing glue which i did a few times when i was a kid.

  

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42. "We gon hit a stick, all of it, not a little bit"
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43. "sherrrrrrrrm stiiiiiiiiiiicc"
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when that song came out only the most not give a fuckinest dudes in the hood would be smoking dippers.

  

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49. "LOL he loved that "Lovely""
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Jayo was hard as fuck lol, so underrated.

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45. "drugs hardly ever go out of style"
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>where have all the quaaludes gone?

this is a great question, basically they have been replaced by other drugs and those drugs also get abused. i heard they are still available in some countries. my buddy's dad swears we missed the fuck out on ludes, but then again now he takes an ambien when he *wakes up*.

>are they still making lsd?

yes, absolutely. in the 70s there was basically a deal cut that weakened doses considerably and that has remained the "industry standard." in other countries you can still get the old-school strength. like in south america the LSD is WAY stronger than the stuff in the states, like 3-4 times as heavy on average, which is what it was in the 60s. there are still people out there making the common types of lsd (25, 26, 27) and candy flip type pills also.

>what if i wanted some barbiturates? do i have to go to
>Mexico?

again kind of an outdated pharma thing but i bet it's still produced somewhere.

>i ask b/c a client recently tested positive for pcp while on
>probation. pcp. in 2015. i asked if she brought it back in
>the Delorean. b/c where does a person find pcp in 2015?

i still occasionally hear of fools smoking sherm in pomona and east L.A. it must still be out there. K, 2CB, all that shit, it's still a thing somewhere.

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51. "Older people speak so fondly of Ludes"
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As a great high for a relatively cheap price. It's weird how they just dropped off the earth, and there doesn't seem to be an equivalent replacement.

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52. "RE: I'm too young. . ."
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. . .what were they, exactly?



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2) And anyhow he's stupid"
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69. "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methaqualone"
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methaqualone

  

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48. "anybody ever fuck with DMT or 2CB?"
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the real, real DMT is hard to find the synthesized one pops up here and there. the natural one (you combined with ayahuasca to make the OG DMT compound) you can find in some of the forests in colombia, peru, etc but that sounds hairy. it's really fucking crazy, if you have ever ridden montezuma's revenge (the rollercoaster) that gives you an idea. from the second you exhale it slaps you in the fucking face and everything moves super fast. it's kind of like in the matrix when the dude learns how to speak chinese and do five styles of martial arts in like 30 seconds. it's all happening too fast to hear let alone repeat, yet your mind processes it. if you close your eyes, you see all sorts of vivid colors in kaleidoscope patterns. several people say they hear women's voices, like sirens, too. opening your eyes i wouldnt bother with but it's pretty fucking crazy, too, everything looks like it is melting.

2CB is more of a club drug and it's pretty fun. the same guy who invented MDA and MDMA came up with it. it's only popular in certain places but it's fun for clubbing, sex, etc, IMO better than E, especially for men. you get this warm sensation at first and then you start to "float." like if you're seated you feel like you're rising up even if you're sinking, and if you're standing you kind of feel like the puck on an air hockey table, slightly but clearly elevated. it has a nice euphoric feeling and makes you sensitive to touch like E. if you take big enough dose, you will also hallucinate moderately and you can shut your eyes and kind of fall into a "hole" (not as intense as a K hole but more pleasant).

not that i'm speaking from experience or anything.

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53. "i wanna try 2CB."
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DMT sounds like the trip Homer had on the Simpsons after he ate that ghost pepper.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BceHGzsDVLY

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57. "Jmmm, it's kinda like that but not really, it's over very fast"
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The real deal is like 15-30 minutes, the synthetic one is more like five *maybe* ten if you really nail it. You have to "break through" though, otherwise you will just feel kind of halfassed, sweaty and weird. When you do break through it's intense as fuck and then it's over. Seriously like a rollercoaster. The weird thing is that there is almost zero hangover, maybe like a ten-minute readjustment period to reality and then you're fine. I guess that is why they called it the businessman's LSD when it was somewhat popular.

2CB is pretty expensive but the doses are small. You can get 20 doses out of one gram I would estimate. It has gotten popular in some poorer countries as a rich person's drug (like club kids, high class prostitutes, etc) and there it's cheaper like $30-$50 a gram, but I heard in Europe it sells between 100 and 300 Euro depending on where you get it. It's fun, especially fun for getting it in, not feminizing and fluttery like MDA or MDMA.

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59. "no, thanks."
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fuck you.

  

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60. "RE: Jmmm, it's kinda like that but not really, it's over very fast"
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Is it really like the netflix doc?? Like where u feel fully in another dimension and all feelings of being in a physical body are gone?

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61. "RE: I've experienced that while sober."
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>feelings of being in a physical
>body are gone?

Too much sci-fi and shoegaze for me.



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66. "Kinda, like you have a sort of out-of-body, out-of-reality experience"
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I didn't see the doc though. You definitely feel a separation of mind and body although that happens with a strong enough dose of LSD, too. And yeah if you break through and you're able to focus, you feel like you're on some alternate plane of reality where all sorts of shit is being revealed to you. Physically you can of feel like you're floating and sinking at the same time, I don't know how to explain it. Like you feel your body sinking into where you're sitting but at the same time you have this ascending feeling. I recommend either a pretty big dose and just closing your eyes or a more moderate dose and being in nature. One time I was with my GF and we saw a gorgeous sunset while doing it. It was a little intense for her, like afterward she went to sleep (it was probably 7:30 at night).

Don't do it in a room full of people, that is a mistake. Chill with one or two other friends and take turns doing it. It also tastes, smells and feels weird, but you forget about that *very* quickly. You also have auditory hallucinations (something that happens with 2CB also, in addition to affecting your depth perception and balance), pretty strong ones actually. It's a five-sensory trip but I don't know if you're unaware or hyper aware. Like I said, a lot is going on and you can't process it in real time, it's happening too fast.

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55. ""GIVE HIM SOME MILK!""
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD7FOL-H-Lo

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56. "it's around "
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just gotta know where and who to asked

  

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58. "acid is still gettin made"
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i live in cali tho

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62. "90's party/rave heads: what's the diff between rolls, beans, x, and moll..."
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We called Ecstasy rolls and beans. The news called it X
nobody mentions them anymore, now it's just molly
same shit? what's the diff?

  

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63. "there is absolutely no difference."
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the kids think molly (aka powdered ecstasy) is 'pure'...b/c their drug dealers tell them it is.

guess what? way back in the wayback our drug dealers told us pills were pure.

it turns out molly is just as likely to be stepped on (aka cut w/substances other than MDMA) as anything else sold as ecstasy (http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2013/10/25/molly_mdma_the_club_drug_is_dangerous_but_not_for_the_reasons_you_d_think.html).

also back then i regularly had access to powdered 'pure' ecstasy in capsules. so kids having access to powdered MDMA isn't a new thing at all.

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64. "The other big ones in the scene were GHB and K"
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I never did that shit, being around ravers when they were trippin balls on G or lost in the K hole I was like I'll pass

I remember there was a big bust at club space in MIA, an Israeli ring was bringing in rolls by the fuckton

  

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65. "i've had enough of both."
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meh.

they're not for me.

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70. "i hated everyone of my friends that did GHB"
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its like dealing with a bad drunk

  

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77. "yup."
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fuck you.

  

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68. "I used to sell powdered MDMA small-time during the late 90's"
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I'd be surprised if it was pure....but everyone sure as hell said it was so.

It was particularly nice though with no side-effects like teeth-grinding. I've never found E or Molly or whatever else they call it that was similar to that stuff. Everything just feels REALLY dirty to me. Alot of Molly going around Toronto is this brown shit that is kinda like a crystallized tar. I tried doing it twice and then just gave the rest away. I was getting fucked up....but it was NOT inducing a good mood. More like an anxious/speedy/amphetamine type of feeling that I wanted to go away as soon as it kicked in.

  

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71. "the big difference to me is that ..."
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in the past shit was pretty well controlled, you had a good number of presses, pills, whatever that were known and reviewed and verifiable. with the capsules and powders, it's a crap shoot, and there is a proliferation of shoddy pills now, too. i am not into this shit but i know a lot of people who are and comparing the scene now to then, that's the major difference i see. most of a street drug than a community thing now.

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76. "Not sure if you heard...."
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But our guy Westhead broke the story about cocaine use in the NHL last week. He talked a lot about how much modern coke is cut with Levamisole which is just some nasty-ass shit. Toronto police were saying that a lot of the street coke is at least 30% levamisole. Often higher. That shit is WORSE for you than cocaine is.

  

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78. "In most cases the adulterants are worse than the substance"
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I saw a Russian doctor talking about how that nasty krokodril (sp?) crap would be safe for human consumption if it were made properly in a lab instead of some nutjob's kitchen.

Isn't levasimole a thing for like parasites? All kinds of shit goes into coke, another reason it's a nasty drug to do especially on a regular basis. Baby laxative, lighter fluid, etc. The purity is not good in most parts of the world, like I was in Colorado a few years ago and the shit the kids were snorting was maybe 10% coke.

The coke thing in the NHL is a touchy thing. Last year I almost wrote a story on two players (one of whom has since been in the news) and their coke use but it would have used a lot of iffy sources, burned a lot of bridges and generally been some snitch shit. Now it's all over the news. I feel like the whole "cocaine use is up" seems like it may be suspect because in the ten years I've had any kind of contact with the league, it seems like a good number of guys were doing it (and in the 70s and 80s we know a lot were, too, remember the Sandersons and Fuhrs and so on).

The thing I don't like now is that the league had a very progressive drug policy and now I think that will become more conservative. I am all for a more hands-on approach from teams and more education/counseling programs. But I don't think they should try to chase a moving target with a bunch of extra testing and sanctions and stuff.

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67. "IMO the quality has declined considerably since those days"
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Late 90s/early 00s I used to party at big festivals and raves and shit. You had DanceSafe and you had some killer quality stuff. Now there is a lot of crap out there. At first the molly capsules were a cleaner, purer high in general, although sometimes they felt a little sterile. Now there is some real shit out there. I seldom fuck with anything like that now but my younger friends all do. It's a shame to see the quality of both capsules and presses declining. Too much of a mainstream thing now, I think, and people are all drinking on it, which is stupid.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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73. "They addressed the quaaludes thing in Wolf of Wall Street"
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not sure if there's any truth in it but they basically said they aren't getting made anymore. Some of the funniest scenes in the movie revolve around them.

>what if i wanted some barbiturates? do i have to go to
>Mexico?

Isn't that what bored housewives take? Or am I mixing that up w/ something else?

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75. "Acid definitely happens over here."
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Not sure I've ever seen PCP though.

Quaaludes.. I think they really did go extinct.*




*I may be basing this solely off Wolf of Wall Street though.

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