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DJPoke
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"White rapper throws Black misogyny back in our faces"


  

          

We can't be offended right? We made it ok for this to occur in our culture...

Right?

http://www.salon.com/2015/08/17/the_sociopaths_answer_to_macklemore_introducing_the_haughty_ignorance_and_heinous_michelle_obama_rhymes_of_chart_topping_white_guy_lil_dicky/

  

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its comedy. Ill allow it.
Aug 19th 2015
1
Salon might be mad at Lonely Island too.
Aug 19th 2015
4
His name is Lil' dicky.
Aug 19th 2015
2
thank Drake later
Aug 19th 2015
3
Professional Rapper link
Aug 19th 2015
5
I don't like his music but...
Aug 19th 2015
6
Anyone that rocks with this dude is a coon
Aug 19th 2015
7
no there arent. the last few weeks here illustrated that.
Aug 19th 2015
8
ita too late....
Aug 19th 2015
9
are you calling kendrick a coon? lets clarify this point first
Aug 19th 2015
10
Sometimes he's "conflicted" and misuses his influences
Aug 19th 2015
40
lol k
Aug 19th 2015
12
what the fuck. one of three things just happened here
Aug 19th 2015
19
      Nigga, who fuckin cares that he brought a Kendrick feature with his Bar ...
Aug 19th 2015
43
           HOW SWAY?
Aug 19th 2015
47
so far i'm not bothered.
Aug 19th 2015
11
right but LOTS of rap is crass
Aug 19th 2015
20
      Thats like saying all Jazz is Smooth Jazz
Aug 19th 2015
28
           yeah that's me
Aug 19th 2015
41
Niggas do it because they got little white guys in offices
Aug 19th 2015
13
He's a comedy rapper. Anyone who takes him seriously...
Aug 19th 2015
14
thats a very efficient summary of GD lol
Aug 19th 2015
15
How is he not a rapper? I'm confused
Aug 19th 2015
23
Yay more gimmicky white rappers!!
Aug 19th 2015
16
$AVE DAT MONEY feat Fetty Wap x Rich Homie Quan.
Aug 19th 2015
17
This shit BANG
Aug 19th 2015
22
fire
Aug 19th 2015
42
Slim Thug wants his song idea back.
Aug 19th 2015
46
he's good, people just dont care about rapping or talent
Aug 19th 2015
18
But he's not a rapper...
Aug 19th 2015
24
i think he's straddling both genres right now
Aug 19th 2015
25
he gained traction doing funny songs
Aug 19th 2015
26
lol @ your godawful reading comprehension.
Aug 19th 2015
27
      Bruh..
Aug 19th 2015
29
           That ain't what he said, bro.
Aug 19th 2015
31
                I'm addressing Frank bruh
Aug 19th 2015
32
                     You should listen to what he said. He actually read what I wrote.
Aug 19th 2015
33
                     So you're saying we shouldn't take him serious as a rapper because he's ...
Aug 19th 2015
35
                          Why would I cop pleas for this guy that I don't really listen to?
Aug 19th 2015
38
                               I don't think lonely island make legit real rap songs but I get the comp...
Aug 19th 2015
39
                                    I mean, that's not a single.
Aug 20th 2015
51
                     and I addressed you, killer.
Aug 19th 2015
34
                          The fuck is wrong with this dude?
Aug 19th 2015
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                               *smh*
Aug 19th 2015
37
Plenty of cats have actual rap talent without a resentment towards me
Aug 19th 2015
45
      so your issue is he's Jewish?
Aug 19th 2015
48
           Sure
Aug 19th 2015
50
Too short, Nancy Reagan, Corn on the cob *shoulder shrug*
Aug 19th 2015
21
article is an overreaction
Aug 19th 2015
30
Leave my FLOTUS alone!
Aug 19th 2015
44
Salon got sick of bitching about comedy and moved on to rap
Aug 19th 2015
49
Salon is angry at something?
Aug 20th 2015
52
Can someone define "Black misogyny"?
Aug 20th 2015
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I listened to the album - it's pretty good
Aug 21st 2015
54
yeah his flow on that snoop jawnt is actually kinda decent
Aug 21st 2015
55

BrooklynWHAT
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1. "its comedy. Ill allow it."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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Frank Longo
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4. "Salon might be mad at Lonely Island too."
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2. "His name is Lil' dicky."
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3. "thank Drake later"
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Wed Aug-19-15 01:13 AM by bentagain

  

          

yeah, that's about right.

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5. "Professional Rapper link"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlU4FuIJT2k


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6. "I don't like his music but..."
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this writer needs to lighten up. There's too many good young rappers putting quality ALBUMS out today to focus on a half-novelty act.

  

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7. "Anyone that rocks with this dude is a coon"
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Why am I not surprised to say that Kendrick is on this dude's album too...


On the real, it's time the rap starts PM Dawning kids again. Something has to be done to let them know that there are real dues to pay for this Hip Hop shit that you can't pay with trust fund money...

  

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8. "no there arent. the last few weeks here illustrated that."
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Wed Aug-19-15 06:32 AM by cgonz00cc

  

          

>there are real dues to pay for this Hip Hop shit

Edited to include the part of your post i was replying to

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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9. "ita too late...."
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the fans are dumbed down and just wanna dance

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10. "are you calling kendrick a coon? lets clarify this point first"
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Geez 216
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40. "Sometimes he's "conflicted" and misuses his influences"
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That Reebok ad...

  

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12. "lol k"
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19. "what the fuck. one of three things just happened here"
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1) you're trolling and just made that up

2) you have no clue what you're talking about

3) there's a bonus song with Kendrick Im unaware of

Im leaning towards 1 and 2 though

  

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43. "Nigga, who fuckin cares that he brought a Kendrick feature with his Bar ..."
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>1) you're trolling and just made that up
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>2) you have no clue what you're talking about
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>3) there's a bonus song with Kendrick Im unaware of
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>Im leaning towards 1 and 2 though


  

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47. "HOW SWAY?"
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nothing comes up https://www.google.com/#q=lil+dicky+kendrick+lamar

serious question, are you mentally retarded?

  

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11. "so far i'm not bothered."
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yeah the Michelle Obama line is crass. but the rest of it...

*shrugs*

fuck you.

  

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20. "right but LOTS of rap is crass"
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28. "Thats like saying all Jazz is Smooth Jazz"
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You "part for the whole" backpackers are getting out of hand

  

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41. "yeah that's me"
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13. "Niggas do it because they got little white guys in offices"
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telling them to be coons and self depreciating images sell.

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14. "He's a comedy rapper. Anyone who takes him seriously..."
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... is only reading Salon articles.

This is one of his singles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocGiulPm3IU

So is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je1nn2-y3cw

If anyone thinks this is a guy trying to be a legitimate rap or pop/rap star, the same way Macklemore and Iggy Azalea are... well, I have no explanation for how an opinion like that would be formed if that person had ever listened to any of this dude's music.

I could accuse him of occasionally being unfunny. Maybe more than occasionally-- I'd be fine with that critique. And maybe some people making this argument have a problem with any white comic doing rap. Maybe those people also think Andy Samberg and Weird Al are doing the same thing. If they're consistent with their argument, I respect that.

But anyone calling him "a white rapper" without mentioning that he's a full-blown comedy act is being willfully ignorant at best or disingenuous at worst.

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15. "thats a very efficient summary of GD lol"
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>willfully ignorant at best or disingenuous at worst.

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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23. "How is he not a rapper? I'm confused"
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16. "Yay more gimmicky white rappers!!"
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I'm not clickin on this like I didn't click on Asher Rothchild or any Eminem post MMLP

  

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17. "$AVE DAT MONEY feat Fetty Wap x Rich Homie Quan. "
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3X_zx8q8_s

  

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22. "This shit BANG"
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42. "fire"
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46. "Slim Thug wants his song idea back."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt3RS-cyuD4

  

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18. "he's good, people just dont care about rapping or talent"
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none of his detractors discuss his music, just his image and bullshit racial implications

if this isnt good rapping to you, I cant be bothered discussing the topic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqBe92dJWhk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOfFUwPykKU

  

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24. "But he's not a rapper..."
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At least according to frank up there.

  

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25. "i think he's straddling both genres right now"
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i think he started out obviously trying to be tongue in cheek funny
but he can legitimately rap
and the fact he was/is a comic will become irrelevant overnight if his rap career gets any traction
basically the chances of this dude being grouped with macklemore and mac miller are way higher than him being categorized with weird al based off the couple songs i've heard

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26. "he gained traction doing funny songs"
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but he can actually RAP

he did a 10 minute song impersonating OG Maco's laid back style while saying smart things

  

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27. "lol @ your godawful reading comprehension."
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"But anyone calling him "a white rapper" without mentioning that he's a full-blown comedy act is being willfully ignorant at best or disingenuous at worst."

That's what I said.

He is a rapper. A rapper who does comedic rap. Which means saying that he aspires to the same type of music that Macklemore and Iggy make is... well, read the sentence I re-posted for your benefit.

He actually raps really well. But his album is primarily comedy. Which must be mentioned when discussing what he's doing.

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29. "Bruh.."
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You called him a comedic act and shouldn't be mentioned as a rapper(despite him mentioning in a song he wants to be one of the best)

Lol how you going to show me your quote like it's saying something different?

My comprehension is fine. Your plea copping on the other hand.. smh





  

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31. "That ain't what he said, bro."
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He said the white boy is a rapper - a comedic rapper.

fuck you.

  

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32. "I'm addressing Frank bruh"
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33. "You should listen to what he said. He actually read what I wrote."
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Wed Aug-19-15 06:30 PM by Frank Longo

  

          

You are still making inferences that aren't based on my actual words.

You're really going to pretend like I didn't say "without mentioning that he's a full-blown comedy act" as if that phrase doesn't change what I said? lol

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35. "So you're saying we shouldn't take him serious as a rapper because he's ..."
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Wed Aug-19-15 07:09 PM by DJPoke

  

          

Comedic?

Despite him saying himself in interviews and songs he's serious when it comes to rap and wants to be looked at and respected as a real rapper. Again it sounds like you're plea copping

  

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38. "Why would I cop pleas for this guy that I don't really listen to?"
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Wed Aug-19-15 07:31 PM by Frank Longo

  

          

I don't really care about him one way or the other. And I totally get people making those arguments against Macklemore and Iggy.

But it seems very apparent to nearly *all* people that Lil Dicky, from his name to his songs to his image, has his career rooted in comedy. Even if it's not Weird Al level, that's what it is. Hard to argue otherwise.

Just because he says "I want to be the best" and he's got some quality lyrics/flow doesn't change the fact that his song concepts and name and image and lyrical content and videos are *all comedic.*

Now, if you're making this same argument against Lonely Island, a white comedy group that also tries to make legitimately good rap songs that also happen to be comedic? Then cool. I respect your consistency. But if you're trying to make the argument that Lil Dicky is the same type of white rapper as Macklemore and Iggy? And you don't mention that he's absolutely rooted in comedy?

Look, you read what I said earlier. It was clear. Not sure what to tell you.

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DJPoke
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39. "I don't think lonely island make legit real rap songs but I get the comp..."
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Other than interviews I didn't start checking for dude till about a week ago so that's y I was confused because the songs ice heard he really spitting. And not on no lonely island goofball shit. This song for example https://youtu.be/dOfFUwPykKU

  

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51. "I mean, that's not a single."
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And it's essentially punchline after punchline.

Just because he can flow doesn't mean he's not comedic.

His singles have to date been all comedic.

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34. "and I addressed you, killer."
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You're misrepresenting his statement. He didn't say the white boy ain't a rapper. He said it's not fair to call dude a 'white rapper' without acknowledging the comedy angle. That's not the same as saying the white boy ain't a rapper.

fuck you.

  

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DJPoke
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36. "The fuck is wrong with this dude? "
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Aye kick rocks bruh

  

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37. "*smh*"
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LOL

fuck you.

  

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Geez 216
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45. "Plenty of cats have actual rap talent without a resentment towards me"
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Em had all the rapping ability in the world and we all see what became of that. Fuck wit this zionist rap shit if you like but I ain't wit it...

  

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atruhead
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48. "so your issue is he's Jewish?"
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Geez 216
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50. "Sure"
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My issue is that, this guy thinks the fact that it's socially unacceptable for him to say the word nigga in his raps is a plight.

I never had a prob with the Beasties, just cause they'd jewish, always loved those guys



But you can be willfully ignorant and act like this is just anti semitism...

  

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auragin_boi
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21. "Too short, Nancy Reagan, Corn on the cob *shoulder shrug*"
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30. "article is an overreaction"
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he's basically the lonely island, but actually good at rapping
and that white dude song is clearly tongue in cheek


i'm never gonna buy an album, but i do look forward to watching any music videos he puts out

  

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44. "Leave my FLOTUS alone!"
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Michelle Obama is the most disrespected FLOTUS in American history.

  

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49. "Salon got sick of bitching about comedy and moved on to rap"
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52. "Salon is angry at something?"
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WELL I FOR ONE AM SHOCKED

My movies: http://russellhainline.com
My movie reviews: https://letterboxd.com/RussellHFilm/
My beer TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thebeertravelguide

  

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53. "Can someone define "Black misogyny"?"
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Days like this I miss Sha Mecca

  

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54. "I listened to the album - it's pretty good"
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If his thruway line about Michelle Obama is absolutely nothing to be offended about UNLESS you want to be offended. He's not a political pundit, he's a rapper - and that line is not on some change my voice/yell/rape Eminem shape.

The Snoop song is strong.

The Hannibal Buress drop is funny.

He flows better than Paul Barman (MCPB is still way funnier.)

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Gone: My Discogs collection for The Roots:
http://www.discogs.com/user/tomhayes-roots/collection

  

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55. "yeah his flow on that snoop jawnt is actually kinda decent"
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and i say that begrudgingly

  

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