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"Poll question: Bigfoot, Sasquatch, Yetti. Does it exist or doesn't it? What say you?"
Thu Aug-13-15 04:07 PM by Atillah Moor

  

          

We will of course use the now stabilized Patterson Gimlin film for reference. For the record I used to think no way when the film was all shaky back in the 80's, but now...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us6jo8bl2lk

One thing we all must agree on is that there is something being filmed. It's either a Sasquatch, a large man in a female bigfoot costume or a very large woman in a female bigfoot costume (or otherwise covered in painstakingly glued on fur).

Also a page from the Army Corp of Engineers Environmental Atlas 1974
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-zqa8lDenz1Q/UeC56uOl02I/AAAAAAAABlk/mINRJZI7g2o/s1600/army+4.jpg

Poll result (21 votes)
Yeah I believe it's real (8 votes)Vote
No way (12 votes)Vote
Not sure-- maybe it does. Maybe it doesn't. (1 votes)Vote

  

  

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Possibly something in the Himalayas (but I doubt it), Def nothing here.
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what do you think is being filmed?
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I thought they were too shy and scared to be caught like this
Aug 13th 2015
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I'd agree about the knowledge of how jacked up humans are
Aug 13th 2015
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poor things are just misunderstood.... they're just introverts
Aug 13th 2015
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Nah. I think there'd be more evidence of it's existence if it did.
Aug 13th 2015
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What do you think is being captured in the film?
Aug 13th 2015
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No.
Aug 13th 2015
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large man in a female suit then?
Aug 13th 2015
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I say yes, after being to that puget sound region, I could see something
Aug 13th 2015
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no fossil record, though?
Aug 13th 2015
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      There are numerous footprint castings some hoaxes
Aug 13th 2015
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      I accept the possibility of something in the Himalayas
Aug 13th 2015
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      What makes you say that? What if it lives underground
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           it's a giant land mammal
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                Perhaps we only know so much if anything at all.
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      http://www.cnet.com/news/yetis-are-real-geneticist-offers-a-plausible-ex...
Aug 13th 2015
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           I hate those shows, btw. We're suppose to believe you are going to
Aug 14th 2015
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           it bothers me that it doesn't plainly state the hairs are from that scal...
Aug 14th 2015
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      the lack of fossil record deads this shit to me
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           Primate fossils have been found in Yellowstone
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What I'd really like to know is what you all think is being filmed
Aug 13th 2015
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Man in a gorilla suit
Aug 13th 2015
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Okay, but it's a Man in a female gorilla suit with human like breasts
Aug 13th 2015
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probably a person in a gorilla suit.
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      With breasts and actually humans don't walk like that at all
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How is it reproducing?
Aug 13th 2015
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If you watch the video-- when the subject turns
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I'm writing a script that answers this question.
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gorillas weren't seen by the world at large until a century ago
Aug 13th 2015
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Giant squid also comes to mind.
Aug 13th 2015
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gorillas weren't seen by white people until a century ago (FTFY)
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      "The world at large"/=Africa, good sir
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that first one looks like he got low top converses on
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I think they're all the same thing. We call it Sasquatch
Aug 13th 2015
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Soles of the feet looked pretty clean too.
Aug 13th 2015
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      Yeah I'd agree, but it is walking on a sandy/dryish surface
Aug 13th 2015
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jane goodall said yes, so i say yes..
Aug 13th 2015
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we got satellites and drones, if they were out there they'd be seen
Aug 13th 2015
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Not necessarily. Look at heavily wooded areas on Google earth
Aug 13th 2015
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nope , vast swaths of the himalayas are still unaccounted for.
Aug 14th 2015
40
^believes in Sammy Davis Jesus & big foot. Imagine that.
Aug 13th 2015
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You will be hated by all men for my name's sake,
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Doubt it. As other folks have said, yeti in the himalayas seems more pla...
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I saw one when I was in the Himalayas in 2011.
Aug 14th 2015
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People really will believe anything it seems.
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Why would I? lol
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John Forte
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1. "Possibly something in the Himalayas (but I doubt it), Def nothing here."
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8. "what do you think is being filmed?"
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2. "I thought they were too shy and scared to be caught like this"
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like if bigfoot sees you, it will run.

they know how fucked up we are.

  

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6. "I'd agree about the knowledge of how jacked up humans are"
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But in the film whatever is being filmed looks back at the camera (Patterson). Perhaps to simply acknowledge it knows they are there.

I don't think it's shy-- I think it simply wants nothing to do with humans by and large.

According to those who filmed it-- the event was completely by accident which may be why there is only this one film.

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26. "poor things are just misunderstood.... they're just introverts"
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3. "Nah. I think there'd be more evidence of it's existence if it did."
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Now, I could possibly go for it ONCE existing but now has died off, but then what was it?

If it was real I'd say it had to be some type of earlier version of homo sapiens, but how did it survive so long w/out breeding, etc?

Seems improbable but I won't go so far as to say absolutely "no."

  

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4. "What do you think is being captured in the film?"
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5. "No."
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7. "large man in a female suit then?"
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9. "I say yes, after being to that puget sound region, I could see something"
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whether it be an unidentified species, mutant, etc...

living up there and being able to avoid human contact

sure.

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10. "no fossil record, though?"
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People have been looking for it for decades now.

  

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11. "There are numerous footprint castings some hoaxes "
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but just as many it would seem that match the type of print cast from the video. Also in Tibet there is a shrine with a Yetti scalp-- the hairs of which have been analyzed and have no known match.

Also-- if it's self aware it could have burial sites much like elephants do.

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12. "I accept the possibility of something in the Himalayas"
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but we'd have fossilized body parts of Sasquatch here in the states, if it were real

  

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14. "What makes you say that? What if it lives underground"
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as much as above ground? There are vast amounts of unexplored wilderness in North America (Including Canada).

I'm just asking-- none of this is to prove a point or come to any definite conclusion.

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18. "it's a giant land mammal "
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21. "Perhaps we only know so much if anything at all."
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Personally I think it has a subterranean element to it as it could survive cold and generate massive body heat in groups were it/they in a cave like environment.

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30. "http://www.cnet.com/news/yetis-are-real-geneticist-offers-a-plausible-ex..."
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>but just as many it would seem that match the type of print
>cast from the video. Also in Tibet there is a shrine with a
>Yetti scalp-- the hairs of which have been analyzed and have
>no known match.

http://www.cnet.com/news/yetis-are-real-geneticist-offers-a-plausible-explanation/

Just IMO though.

  

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45. "I hate those shows, btw. We're suppose to believe you are going to "
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find some mythical creature

but we wouldn't know about it

until your show airs

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47. "it bothers me that it doesn't plainly state the hairs are from that scal..."
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in particular. The documentary I saw had the host actually got to the temple ask the monk for permission and you saw him take a sample. Now maybe he didn't have access to an extensive database which is why no match was found and I'd believe that for sure.

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25. "the lack of fossil record deads this shit to me "
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we continue to find dinosaur bones MILLIONS of years old


if it does exist, there would be ancestors of the species.


but we can't find any evidence, other than footprints, of this thing?

  

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36. "Primate fossils have been found in Yellowstone "
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http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070201-primates.html

  

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13. "What I'd really like to know is what you all think is being filmed"
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"I don't know" is just as good an answer as any. It can only be a handful of possibilities which is what fascinates me about this subject.

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16. "Man in a gorilla suit"
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19. "Okay, but it's a Man in a female gorilla suit with human like breasts"
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Which would be an odd thing to hoax during that time with censorship and all. Never mind highly advanced suit work, you'll also notice the muscle groups moving as the subject moves again pointing to a highly advanced suit if it's that.

So if a man in a suit we have to factor those things.

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20. "probably a person in a gorilla suit."
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i mean, it doesn't even look like some half human/half ape evolutionary misfit as most people posit...it actually just looks like a gorilla that's walking like a human.

  

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22. "With breasts and actually humans don't walk like that at all"
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the walk can be imitated, but we don't bend at the knee drastically and we don't really point our feet the way the subject does (a near 90 degree angle before placement).

Also the foot is clearly not apelike. The big toe is not like a thumb as it is with primates nor are the breasts like primates either.

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15. "How is it reproducing?"
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Wouldn't there be more than one of it were some thriving unknown species? Especially if it is a primate.



  

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17. "If you watch the video-- when the subject turns"
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there are visible female breasts and not apelike i.e. flat like all primates, but full at the bottom like a human woman. You'll also observe that the hips are seemingly feminine as well, but the breasts are definitely there.

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More Christmas movies coming in 2025...

  

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24. "gorillas weren't seen by the world at large until a century ago"
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Saying things like, "if they existed we'd know by now because of bones/body parts" doesn't really do much to foster any sort of rebuttal. There has been hair samples found in the Everglades that don't match anything known on Earth at this point, so there is definitely something living in these places we have no documentation of. Whether or not anybody wants to believe that, it's up to them.
Of course that doesn't mean there aren't elaborate hoaxes being made for years now, but some of this stuff can't be explained away by boneheaded cosplaying in the middle of the Swamp at night.

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33. "Giant squid also comes to mind."
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41. "gorillas weren't seen by white people until a century ago (FTFY)"
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Africans knew.
And that's mountain gorillas specifically.

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27. "that first one looks like he got low top converses on"
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aint no way he walking that smooth through cold ass snow and stones on the ground.

that aint no yeti

  

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28. "I think they're all the same thing. We call it Sasquatch "
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Tibetans call it Yeti. This video is from a forest area on the west coast so there's no snow.

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31. "Soles of the feet looked pretty clean too."
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Just IMO though.

  

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35. "Yeah I'd agree, but it is walking on a sandy/dryish surface"
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So maybe from that distance you can't make out the dirt.

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29. "jane goodall said yes, so i say yes.."
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32. "we got satellites and drones, if they were out there they'd be seen"
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34. "Not necessarily. Look at heavily wooded areas on Google earth"
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You can't see through the forest canopy. And if they're in the Himalayas then thus could easily be in caves or otherwise obscured. Plus if they do exist there doesn't seem to be a lot of them clearly not in numbers comparable to ours.

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40. "nope , vast swaths of the himalayas are still unaccounted for. "
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37. "^believes in Sammy Davis Jesus & big foot. Imagine that. "
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if you're simple enough to believe that lenny kravitz was born of a virgin then you will believe anything regardless how its framed



a yeti huh. what are you a 73 yr old white woman, jesus





  

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Atillah Moor
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44. "You will be hated by all men for my name's sake,"
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but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

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Everything looks like Oprah kissing Harvey Weinstein these days

  

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Hitokiri
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38. "Doubt it. As other folks have said, yeti in the himalayas seems more pla..."
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But I wouldn't wager anything on either actually being real.

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"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."

  

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39. "I saw one when I was in the Himalayas in 2011."
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paypal me 50k and you can have the pictures of him and i eating together.

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the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

  

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kwez
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43. "People really will believe anything it seems."
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Grand_Royal
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46. "Why would I? lol"
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