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Dude was gleeful debunking the dead mugshot theory.

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i think ppl wanna buy into the conspiracy theories b/c they want to see some criminal charge out of this. maybe the officers involved in her arrest and those who were monitoring her in the jail won't face any criminal charge but her estate likely has a decent civil suit against those officers and the jail.

fuck you.

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I gotta make sure folks know that I'm angry but still separate myself from the dumb-ass conspiracy theories.

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it seems odd to me to discriminantly 'release' evidence in an open investigation

they pulled the same BS in Ferguson

aren't they compromising the potential jury pool?

do they plan on addressing every concern outside of a trial?

http://whathappenedtosandrabland.com/

and why do these 'suicides' keep occurring?

http://abc7chicago.com/news/woman-accused-of-shoplifting-found-dead-in-holding-cell/889205/

my initial thought with the conspiracy on her being dead in the mugshot

was that it came from somewhere

i.e. I'm sure it's happened before

this whole process of releasing evidence = that's not how this works

that's not how any of this works (c)

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Something.

And trial???? For what?

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relieve themselves of liability

this is an open investigation, correct?

isn't that the reason for an investigation?

to move forward with criminal charges, or not?

I know going all the way back to last week may seem like ancient history

but the initial edited video fueled more speculation

the mugshot fueled more speculation

I don't see how releasing bits and pieces of evidence

at your convenience

helps anything, really

I would assume there will be a suit brought against the county, etc...

why does she have a big ass trash can in the first place?

all of the inconsistencies during her booking process

i.e. if she admitted to a recent attempted suicide, the county has procedures for handling those suspects differently

I guess you didn't click on the link

but there are more and more questions by the day

short of them releasing a video of her hanging herself

they're never going to answer the question

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They released the original video and folks had issue.

They released the 2nd unedited video in response to that.

People had issues with the mugshot...so they released video to prove she was alive and booked, not staged dead in the photo.

No, the purpose of an investigation is not to move forward with criminal charges.

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That is probably the worst moment in somebody's life. The incident that put them there is fresh in their mind, and they are about to have to face the consequences.
That is a dire circumstance for some. Add to that the stark conditions of jail, it is not surprising to see suicides.

They like they 'keep occurring' because the news doesn't usually report such things.

http://www.npr.org/2015/07/27/426742309/the-shock-of-confinement-the-grim-reality-of-suicide-in-jail

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so let's put somebody who admits to having attempted suicide recently

in solitary/isolation

and give her a big ass trash can/bag

I listened to that interview

and there, obviously, are protocols in place to prevent it

so why does it keep happening?

i.e. even if she did commit suicide, that does not obsolve Waller County of responsibility

they f'd up.

one way or another (c)

miss me with the transparency talk as replied by Cen above

when have they ever given a shit about public opinion

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what are they investigating?
and is this a "criminal" investigation?
seems like nobody has been charged
they have cameras on her cell at all times so they know who came in/out and at what times

the arresting office won't be charged
because it is not ILLEGAL for a cop to be "rude" to anyone
he may get "written up" by his supervisor for lack of customer service/decorum but he did nothing against the law

how many prisons/jails have been successfully sued because someone's loved one committed suicide while locked up? ---case law

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reading through, they plan on presenting to a grand jury

now I'm no legal eagle

but as I said, I don't think presenting the evidence to the public, selectively, helps that investigation

usually, IMO, folks just say this is an open investigation and we'll comment when it's complete

not, oh look what we want to show you today

also, as I said IRT Ferguson, it feels like their motive is to contaminate a potential jury pool

and manipulate public perception outside of the legal framework

I've also stated, numerous times, folks need to get past the officer that made the stop

unless, as I've said, the independent autopsy comes back with a hematoma (I'm still giving the side eye to the medical examiner's version finding no injury to her head)

something else happened

and that's what they're investigating

also to reiterate

as stated above

even if it is a suicide

Waller County is still liable, IMO, for not following the proper protocol.

so yeah, this BS of releasing discriminant evidence to the media on a regular basis

that's not how this works, that's now how any of this works (c)

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no.

So what is usually done cant really be used as a standard here bc this isn't a standard case.

There is a public uproar and a demand for information. Would you be happier if they gave the token response of 'open investigation, we can't comment at this time'?? of course not, it would seem like they are hiding something and trying to cover stuff up.

In any event, if there was a criminal charge all the evidence that the prosecutors have would be public knowledge at the time of an indictment anyway. So all the talk about contaminating a jury pool is nonsense.

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"In any event, if there was a criminal charge all the evidence that the prosecutors have would be public knowledge at the time of an indictment anyway. So all the talk about contaminating a jury pool is nonsense."

the grand jury is making the decision whether to indict or not, yes?

who's going to sit on that grand jury?

releasing the evidence AFTER an indictment is NOT what is happening here

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the prosecutors would show them at the grand jury?

I assumed you meant the jury at a trial. That's usually what people are referring to in regards to contaminating a jury

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2 things that caught my attention

they are selected from the same pool of candidates (and there has already been an established bias in that process)

they aren't as selective in choosing candidates for a grand jury

I would assume if those jurors are from Waller County

they are faimliar with this case and what has been presented through the media so far

i.e. I'm assuming some of those folks have already made up their mind.

= the more evidence they present through the media

in an effort to relieve themselves of liability

= less likely to return an indictment, IMO

^ on whomever, or whatever they decide to present charges against

officer, county or otherwise

you follow?

also, the grand jury is not a trial, and if this is an indication of how the prosecutor plans on presenting the case

= extremely biased with no counter arguments

it should be clear what the problem with these cases is.

in contrast to the Sam Dubose case

we're seeing the tape AFTER an indictment

that evidence was sealed, and that's my understanding of how it works in an ACTIVE INVESTIGATION.

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>= the more evidence they present through the media

in an effort to relieve themselves of liability

= less likely to return an indictment, IMO

^ on whomever, or whatever they decide to present charges against

officer, county or otherwise

you follow?

nope

>also, the grand jury is not a trial, and if this is an indication of how the prosecutor plans on presenting the case

= extremely biased with no counter arguments

it should be clear what the problem with these cases is.

lol what?

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>what are they investigating?
>and is this a "criminal" investigation?
>seems like nobody has been charged
>they have cameras on her cell at all times so they know who
>came in/out and at what times
>
>the arresting office won't be charged
>because it is not ILLEGAL for a cop to be "rude" to anyone
>he may get "written up" by his supervisor for lack of customer
>service/decorum but he did nothing against the law
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>how many prisons/jails have been successfully sued because
>someone's loved one committed suicide while locked up? ---case
>law
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Forcing someone out of their car, with no justifiable means, because they didn't put a cigarette out. That's legal? The arresting office doesn't have to be charged with anything. But I bet my last dollar her family is gonna get a big settlement from the state in civil court for this. At the end of the day she stated that she had attempted suicide before and there should not have been anything in the cell that she could have used to kill herself. Any institution usually takes particular precautions in this type of situation to reduce their liability in the event something like this occurs. The jail fucked up and that's why going forward they are not going to use the plastic bags in the trash can in cells. The jail is completely liable for her death.

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>Forcing someone out of their car, with no justifiable means,
>because they didn't put a cigarette out. That's legal?

It is very legal.
"Justifiable" is very vague.
LEO can ask you to step out of your car and stand next to the rear passenger door while they wrote you a speeding ticket if they felt like it.
It would be poor customer service, but it would not be illegal.

>The
>arresting office doesn't have to be charged with anything. But
>I bet my last dollar her family is gonna get a big settlement
>from the state in civil court for this.

For her death in jail, NOT because anything the arresting officer did. And honestly, I'm not so sure the State of Texas will settle on this one. Seems like they will fight it.


>At the end of the day
>she stated that she had attempted suicide before and there
>should not have been anything in the cell that she could have
>used to kill herself. Any institution usually takes particular
>precautions in this type of situation to reduce their
>liability in the event something like this occurs. The jail
>fucked up and that's why going forward they are not going to
>use the plastic bags in the trash can in cells. The jail is
>completely liable for her death.


If they have this trial in 98% of counties in Texas, the family will not win.

>>Forcing someone out of their car, with no justifiable
>means,
>>because they didn't put a cigarette out. That's legal?
>
>It is very legal.
>"Justifiable" is very vague.
>LEO can ask you to step out of your car and stand next to the
>rear passenger door while they wrote you a speeding ticket if
>they felt like it.
>It would be poor customer service, but it would not be
>illegal.

That's crazy I read your post saying that below, but I didn't know this to be the case. That's horrible that the people in the state of Texas are ok with that.

>>The
>>arresting office doesn't have to be charged with anything.
>But
>>I bet my last dollar her family is gonna get a big
>settlement
>>from the state in civil court for this.
>
>For her death in jail, NOT because anything the arresting
>officer did. And honestly, I'm not so sure the State of Texas
>will settle on this one. Seems like they will fight it.

We'll see...

>>At the end of the day
>>she stated that she had attempted suicide before and there
>>should not have been anything in the cell that she could
>have
>>used to kill herself. Any institution usually takes
>particular
>>precautions in this type of situation to reduce their
>>liability in the event something like this occurs. The jail
>>fucked up and that's why going forward they are not going to
>>use the plastic bags in the trash can in cells. The jail is
>>completely liable for her death.
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>If they have this trial in 98% of counties in Texas, the
>family will not win.

Will be interesting to see to say the least.

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suicide is somewhat unpredictable and almost never makes sense to us.

but yes, i have heard of pre-trial detainees committing suicide in local jails.

fuck you.

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suicide almost never makes sense to us.

fuck you.

i've had a family member that tried to commit suicide because her sister told her that her shoes did not match her purse.

sounds strange but this family member had been going through A LOT in the preceding year and this was just the tipping point

no amount of money nor education can undue severe depression

I dunno that Sandra committed suicide but I disagree with the idea that she COULDNT have bc she was being held on a bs charge and a relatively low cash bond.

fuck you.

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"Waller County Assistant District Attorney Warren Diepraam said it was unclear whether Bland ingested marijuana before or after she was jailed. What’s certain, he said, was that a large amount of the drug was found in her system. But when the county finally released the toxicology report, several days after the autopsy, it revealed that Bland had 18 ¬± 4 nanograms per milliliter of blood of tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, in her body. These THC levels are comparable to baseline (or sober) levels of about 10–20 nanograms per milliliter of many of my research participants, who are regular users."

like I said, same shit

they are contaminating a potential jury pool by releasing selective and false information

this case should not be tried through the media.

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Nobody goes into a lockup without getting searched. That would be a danger to everyone inside.

The plant has a distinct odor. It requires heat to activate. It is a classified depressant. For all of these reasons, it is asinine to assert that she could sneak it in with the necessary paraphrenalia, consume it and then launch a macguyver style campaign to end her own life.

If they wanna tell me her depression was the cause, fine. But just like if they knew she had diabetes, it only makes them negligent in her care and thus still responsible for her death.

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for her death

^exactly where I'm at with it.

one way or another (c)

she was murdered = charges

Waller County negligent = charges

so I don't understand why folks are woot wootin' the release of evidence

IN AN OPEN INVESTIGATION

there will be charges and a subsequent trial

all of this BS just makes it look more suspicious, IMO.

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It doesn't prove that there was not misconduct, it doesn't even disprove murder.

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People were trying to pass off a video of a woman from Florida being taken out of a patrol car too, it's sad they handled this so badly they felt the need to release video.

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Are there time stamps on the video? I didn't see any.

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she should not be dead, let alone arrested. So that is where the investigation needs to be focused, not conspiracy... but why was she handled that way in the car? Why did she have to get out of the car? Why were there no miranda rights read to her before the cop said she was arrested.

Video of aafter means nothing to me when she should not have been there in the first place.

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They are making the issue about something other than those things you posted. There isn't a real justification for the stuff you posted. So its easier to retort the stuff that's easily 'debunkable'. Like her being dead in the mug shot.

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what part is confusing you?

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>what part is confusing you?

on a small subsection of people
which is as bad as "what about black on black crime"

you act as if those people are directing any of this
the confusing aspect is you acting as if they are any sort of majority
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the hell are you talking about it.

Its enough that it moved the conversation from why was she arrested to see, we didn't kill her and prop her up in the mug shot.

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>she should not be dead, let alone arrested. So that is where
>the investigation needs to be focused, not conspiracy... but
>why was she handled that way in the car?

From what I googled, in Texas, an officer can "detain" (remove from their vehicle and place in handcuffs) any person for any reason while making a traffic stop. Even for something as simple as changing lanes with no blinker.




Why did she have to
>get out of the car?


He did not need to give her a reason why she needed to step out the car. He did not need to justify himself according to the way the Texas law is written.
He felt the need to detain (not arrest but detain in handcuffs) her for some reason. It is the responding officers judgement call.


Why were there no miranda rights read to
>her before the cop said she was arrested.


Ehhhhh, I don't think you need to have your Miranda rights read to you as soon as you are arrested. The way it works is, bring you say BEFORE your rights are read to you can be held against you in court.
This is not Law & Order SVU



>Video of aafter means nothing to me when she should not have
>been there in the first place.

A cop can put you in jail for a speeding ticket if he wants to. It would be dumb but he can do it. In Virginia, if you do like 26+ MPH over the speed limit you MUST go to jail. Like that's state law or something crazy.


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that alone calls into question everything that proceeded that stop

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1. Is it illegal to make a zoom stop?

2. We need to remember to keep the arrest and her death separate.
The arresting officer did not kill her nor have anything to do with her death.
Her death is at the hands of whomever was working in the jail at that time.

I believe arresting officer will be off Scott Free.
But the jail might have some questions to answer.

Also, why did her ppl let her sit in jail for 3 days when bail was only $500?

that alone calls into question everything that proceeded that stop


which puts the entire dept on the hook
if not the county
if not the state

if they stand by zoom stops

and if they don't

then yep its back on that officer
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>that alone calls into question everything that proceeded that stop

Do you mean preceded the stop? If so, it still doesn't make sense.

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Her family may not have money like that. Not going to assume but if my math is right approximately 1 in 4 black folks live at or below poverty.

They held her over the weekend and if money is a problem for the family then tryig to scrape together airfare could be tough when money tends to move slow On Saturday and Sunday. It could be equally tough to drive the 24+ hrs it may take to get to Texas.

Folks in her immediate family could have ailments preventing any kind of short notice trip.


I hope you also put Dylan Roofs family on trial as well since you know-- they raised a racist paychopath who could have easily been this cop you're co-signing.

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under arrest before she got out the car.

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>under arrest before she got out the car.

Since she kicked him he he could say that.
But then if you want to be like well what happened beforeehand?
He can switch it to, I decided to upgrade her from a Written Warning for failure to signal before changing lanes to a full on citation and even arrest for the infraction.

He can arrest her for not signaling before changing lanes.
That's an actual law.
A loophole, but it is the law.
And he operated within it.

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>Right?

Well he put that down as the official reason for her arrest?
I doubt it.
But he will find a seemingly justifiable infraction to write down.

Changing lanes without a signal,
Seemed agitated and suspicious as I was writing her citation.
I smelled marijuana in the car (it was actually a Benson & Hedges menthal that he smelled)

then he should be able to put black person as the reason and that should float right? Like- if Texas law says it 's okay then there shouldn't be a need for any run around.

Or is it really cops can pull you over over for anything in Texas except skin color?

I'm not trying to play semantics it's just something in how you're stating the law works in Texas that isn't adding up to me.

Lastly, if everything is legal-- aren't they officially saying it was an illegal arrest?

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End of discussion.

I've searched your name and see you have a rather extreme hatred of non-Blacks and Law Enforcement so that's even further reason for EoD

>>she should not be dead, let alone arrested. So that is
>where
>>the investigation needs to be focused, not conspiracy... but
>>why was she handled that way in the car?
>
>From what I googled, in Texas, an officer can "detain" (remove
>from their vehicle and place in handcuffs) any person for any
>reason while making a traffic stop. Even for something as
>simple as changing lanes with no blinker.
>
But again, he used "his judgement" he could have used better judgement and just wrote the ticket.
>
>
>Why did she have to
>>get out of the car?
>
>
>He did not need to give her a reason why she needed to step
>out the car. He did not need to justify himself according to
>the way the Texas law is written.
>He felt the need to detain (not arrest but detain in
>handcuffs) her for some reason. *** ah-ha! for "some" reason... that is the problem. What was his reason as she gave no cause.

It is the responding officers judgement call. Again, you continue to use "judgement call" which is NOT a law. He could have at any time been an officer of the law and handed the ticket and kept it moving.
>
>
> Why were there no miranda rights read to
>>her before the cop said she was arrested.
>
>
>Ehhhhh, I don't think you need to have your Miranda rights
>read to you as soon as you are arrested. The way it works is,
>bring you say BEFORE your rights are read to you can be held
>against you in court.
>This is not Law & Order SVU
Umm.. I was a cop. YES Miranda have to read the moment the person is "under arrest" and before taken into custody.
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>>Video of aafter means nothing to me when she should not have
>>been there in the first place.
>
>A cop can put you in jail for a speeding ticket if he wants
>to. It would be dumb but he can do it. In Virginia, if you do
>like 26+ MPH over the speed limit you MUST go to jail. Like
>that's state law or something crazy.
>
>
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>Umm.. I was a cop. YES Miranda have to read the moment the
>person is "under arrest" and before taken into custody.

not really.

a person in police custody must be advised that they don't have to answer any questions about the police investigation at issue and that they can speak w/a lawyer before they decide if they'll answer questions and they can have a lawyer present for the questioning. failure to advise the person doesn't mean the arrest is illegal and it won't result in the arrest or any evidence collected as a result being tossed out in court. the failure to advise just means any answers the arrestee gives in response to police questioning cannot be used against the arrestee in court. none of this applies if the arrestee talks to police w/o having been questioned.

and if police don't intend to ask the arrestee any questions related to their investigation then they don't need to give the Miranda warning at all.

fuck you.

>But again, he used "his judgement" he could have used better
>judgement and just wrote the ticket.

You want him to think/behave one way but he went the other.
His way was not wrong or illegal.
She could have shut up, said nothing, signed the citation and still been alive.
Both are at fault here.
Yes, she has rights, but her rights were not being infringed upon.
And now she is dead.
Yes pedestrians have the right of way in a crosswalk, but if you don't heed to a speeding car, you too can end up dead.




>*** ah-ha! for "some"
>reason... that is the problem. What was his reason as she gave
>no cause.
>
>It is the responding officers judgement call. Again, you
>continue to use "judgement call" which is NOT a law. He could
>have at any time been an officer of the law and handed the
>ticket and kept it moving.


She could have accepted the ticket without saying shit and kept it moving and be laughing at drake diss rahmeek on these albums.
But now she is gone.

Both parties could have and should have stepped down here.
And since he had a gun, he wins 51-49 on the street
But with the dashboard camera she would have won 59-41 in court.








>Umm.. I was a cop. YES Miranda have to read the moment the
>person is "under arrest" and before taken into custody.


Again, no Miranda rights do not have to be read IMMEDIATELY as a person is under arrest.
The cop does not even have to tell you WHY you are under arrest immediately.
Things happen.
Mirandarizing a suspect is merely for the purposes of using the suspects testimony against them in the court of law.


Question: Why are you not LEO anymore?



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>>>Video of aafter means nothing to me when she should not
>have
>>>been there in the first place.
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>>A cop can put you in jail for a speeding ticket if he wants
>>to. It would be dumb but he can do it. In Virginia, if you
>do
>>like 26+ MPH over the speed limit you MUST go to jail. Like
>>that's state law or something crazy.
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>>Don't hate the player, change the game!
>