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Big Kuntry
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"Its been 462 fatal shootings by police in 2015."
Wed Jul-01-15 09:57 AM by Big Kuntry

  

          

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/06/30/since-1976-the-fbi-hasnt-counted-more-than-460-fatal-police-shootings-in-a-year-weve-counted-461-already-in-2015/

As a national debate continues over the use of deadly force by police, particularly against minorities, The Post is tracking every fatal shooting by a police officer acting in the line of duty in 2015.

Six months into the year, The Post’s database has confirmed 462 fatal shootings by police.

One of the primary reasons The Post is collecting this data is that the currently available tallies of fatal police shootings are woefully inadequate and incomplete.

The primary source of police shooting data — often cited in news reports — is compiled by the FBI. But because reporting is voluntary, many of the nation’s police departments do not report — including entire states. Since 2011, less than 3 percent of the nation’s 18,000 state and local police agencies have reported fatal shootings by their officers.

Through the first half of 2015, The Post has already identified more fatal police shootings than the FBI has recorded in any entire year since 1976.


Experts and academics who study police use of force say that undercounting makes those numbers gathered by the government relatively useless, and underscores the need for more comprehensive data collection about police use of force.

Following The Post’s reporting and a similar attempt to track deaths at the hands of police conducted by the Guardian, two Democratic senators introduced legislation to require more accurate data be collected by the Department of Justice. Yet, with Republicans in control of both the House and the Senate, it remains unclear whether the bill will gain traction or has a realistic pathway to law.

  

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shit is outta control
Jul 01st 2015
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holy shit
Jul 01st 2015
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It has? It's gotta be something we can do about this.
Jul 01st 2015
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I wonder how many were COMPLETELY avoidable, and then how many
Jul 01st 2015
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i wanna know this too
Jul 01st 2015
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i'd be interested in seeing these stats
Jul 01st 2015
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155 according to this
Jul 01st 2015
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Cali cops got busy!
Jul 01st 2015
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...
Jul 01st 2015
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It's broken down by race, whether they were armed, mental health, etc.
Jul 01st 2015
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Stay tuned more to come
Jul 01st 2015
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if 462 americans had been killed by ISIS
Jul 01st 2015
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if that number is right, on pace to being close to 1000+
Jul 01st 2015
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some of these were justified
Jul 01st 2015
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Why is that relevant at this point?
Jul 01st 2015
15
...
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547 according to the Guardian http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-inte...
Jul 01st 2015
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IMO, justified = perp has a firearm & is shooting it.
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1. "shit is outta control"
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KiloMcG
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2. "holy shit"
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OKdamn
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3. "It has? It's gotta be something we can do about this. "
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Wed Jul-01-15 10:07 AM by OKdamn

          

It's a community center by my house. I'm gonna see if it's some people there that wanna organize and make more people aware. It's no reason why the public should fear the police.

  

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4. "I wonder how many were COMPLETELY avoidable, and then how many"
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were completely, totally understood and justified. And then, I wonder how many of the victims (is that the word for all of them?) were Black.

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Big Kuntry
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5. "i wanna know this too"
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>I wonder how many of the victims (is that the word for all of them?) were Black

  

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6. "i'd be interested in seeing these stats"
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>were completely, totally understood and justified. And then,
>I wonder how many of the victims (is that the word for all of
>them?) were Black.

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8. "155 according to this "
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Wed Jul-01-15 12:58 PM by blackrussian

  

          

>I wonder how many of the victims (is that the word for all of
>them?) were Black.


http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/jun/01/the-counted-police-killings-us-database

The Counted: a Guardian project collecting names & other info about deaths caused by law enforcement in the US. The link above has a bunch of different search functions.



"Of the 547 people found by the Guardian to have been killed by law enforcement so far this year, 49.7% were white, 28.3% were black and 15.5% were Hispanic/Latino. According to US census data, 62.6% of the population is white, 13.2% is black and 17.1% is Hispanic/Latino.

More than one in of five those killed so far in 2015 – 119 people in all – were unarmed. While 31.6% of black people killed were found to be carrying no weapon, that was true for only 16.5% of white people. This stark disparity has stayed roughly constant since The Counted began publishing at the beginning of June."

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/01/us-police-killings-this-year-black-americans

  

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Big Kuntry
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9. "Cali cops got busy!"
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Crash Bandacoot
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11. "..."
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18. "It's broken down by race, whether they were armed, mental health, etc."
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Atillah Moor
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7. "Stay tuned more to come"
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Wed Jul-01-15 11:54 AM by Atillah Moor

  

          

Cops kill whites when there is no other option.

They kill blacks when there is.

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10. "if 462 americans had been killed by ISIS "
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we would have nuked iraq by now

as for whether they were "justified" or not...we will never know because HELLO the motherfucker who could say so...is dead.

this is a major big deal.


does it really matter?

wonder what bin's doing?
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Crash Bandacoot
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12. "if that number is right, on pace to being close to 1000+"
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Wed Jul-01-15 02:31 PM by Crash Bandacoot

          

article said that some states haven't even reported

  

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13. "some of these were justified"
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a lot of these weren't...but some were

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15. "Why is that relevant at this point?"
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Big Kuntry
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17. "..."
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MEAT
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14. "547 according to the Guardian http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-inte..."
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http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/jun/01/the-counted-police-killings-us-database

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16. "IMO, justified = perp has a firearm & is shooting it."
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you got to take em out @ that point.

if s/he has a gun hasnt pulled it? nope.

has a knife? nope.

throwing rocks? nope.

etc


does it really matter?

wonder what bin's doing?
http://i.imgur.com/phECCMp.jpg

  

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