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Doronmonkflake
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"Did we talk about the Des Moines shooting?"


  

          

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/11/iowa-police-officer-fatally-shoots-unarmed-man


This time, a veteran officer was so scared of an unarmed Black, she shot him through her window. Still rolled up.

Like, that's a thing I've never heard of another person doing. Even in Jurassic Park. Even in The Walking Dead. Nobody is so scared inside their car that they shoot through the glass, potentially injuring and deafening themselves.

Nonetheless, that's what she did. Because he danced in the street and then walked toward her car. And we're supposed to accept her abject terror as valid reason to kill and allow her to continue putting her bravery between citizens and crime daily.


What a country.

Da bayball, babeh. (c) Charlie Kelly.

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
I really hope they mean they're waiting on a toxicology report
Jun 11th 2015
1
I would be more scared of discharging my weapon in a car
Jun 11th 2015
6
My bad, cop was right this time
Jun 12th 2015
7
      Ok, but unless the tox screen found DEMONS, as a cop, handle it.
Jun 12th 2015
8
           A lot more happened than that
Jun 12th 2015
9
                There's a lotta people on drugs. You gonna shoot em all?
Jun 12th 2015
10
                     SMH, I'm out
Jun 12th 2015
11
                          I'm just sayin. It's not cause enough to shoot.
Jun 12th 2015
13
Also the guy is not Black
Jun 11th 2015
2
My fault.
Jun 11th 2015
4
welp, we can all go home now.
Jun 12th 2015
15
How about this blind guy they tossed around for no good reason?
Jun 11th 2015
3
that's home
Jun 11th 2015
5
I thought it was a white guy
Jun 12th 2015
12
It was. I was wrong about the race. The rest is bull, tho.
Jun 12th 2015
14
Orlando
Jun 13th 2015
16

csuave03
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Thu Jun-11-15 11:51 PM

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1. "I really hope they mean they're waiting on a toxicology report"
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from the cop because that last paragraph is ambiguous.

Man, cops don't give f*ck. Through the window? Scared because he walked toward the vehicle? Do they still train these people?

  

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Doronmonkflake
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Thu Jun-11-15 11:59 PM

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6. "I would be more scared of discharging my weapon in a car"
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Like, none of that plan of action made sense.

Da bayball, babeh. (c) Charlie Kelly.

  

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csuave03
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Fri Jun-12-15 12:04 AM

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7. "My bad, cop was right this time"
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skipped some of the article on first read

That's why they tell you to wait in your car when getting pulled over ladies and gentlemen

Cops pull me over, I don't move

  

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Doronmonkflake
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Fri Jun-12-15 12:09 AM

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8. "Ok, but unless the tox screen found DEMONS, as a cop, handle it."
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You're in a vehicle, with an arsenal from non lethal to lethal weapons. You have training. You have a radio. You have doors that lock from inside.

The first thing you do when you see a person approaching in an erratic manner isn't usually "open fire", because that's not an option any of us have in that instance.

So I would expect a peace officer to have a little more wherewithal than that.

Da bayball, babeh. (c) Charlie Kelly.

  

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csuave03
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Fri Jun-12-15 12:12 AM

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9. "A lot more happened than that"
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she feared for her life and rightfully so. Dude was probably on drugs

  

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Doronmonkflake
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Fri Jun-12-15 12:18 AM

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10. "There's a lotta people on drugs. You gonna shoot em all?"
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Da bayball, babeh. (c) Charlie Kelly.

  

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csuave03
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Fri Jun-12-15 12:19 AM

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11. "SMH, I'm out"
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Doronmonkflake
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Fri Jun-12-15 12:22 AM

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13. "I'm just sayin. It's not cause enough to shoot. "
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I read the article (granted, I missed the race) and I saw a news reenactment of the scene. I understand her gettin shook up. But nobody did anything to cause gunfire. He didn't brandish a weapon or assault anybody. He was behaving erratically and got killed because somebody in the mix with a gun got uncomfortable.

But having a gun should make you more comfortable. The rest of us depend on that comfort.

Da bayball, babeh. (c) Charlie Kelly.

  

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csuave03
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Thu Jun-11-15 11:53 PM

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2. "Also the guy is not Black"
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he's white

  

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Doronmonkflake
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Thu Jun-11-15 11:54 PM

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4. "My fault. "
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Da bayball, babeh. (c) Charlie Kelly.

  

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ndibs
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Fri Jun-12-15 07:39 AM

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15. "welp, we can all go home now."
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>he's white

  

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Doronmonkflake
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3. "How about this blind guy they tossed around for no good reason?"
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/06/10/1392030/-Little-Rock-police-slam-non-violent-blind-man-to-the-street-Guess-his-race?detail=hide


The things I see cops doing on a daily are actions I would attribute to Quentin Tarrantino villains. But even then, I would say "Dude's version of Ed Gein was over the top. He never kicked a woman to death in the crotch and abdomen."

And I would be right. Ed Gein didn't do that. Officer Mary O'Callaghan did that.

Da bayball, babeh. (c) Charlie Kelly.

  

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csuave03
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Thu Jun-11-15 11:56 PM

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5. "that's home"
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I hear about worse stuff while I'm there so this doesn't surprise me at all

LRPD & NLRPD don't play

  

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neuro_OSX
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Fri Jun-12-15 12:20 AM

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12. "I thought it was a white guy"
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Fri Jun-12-15 12:22 AM by neuro_OSX

  

          

Either way I was thinking this was some bullshit.

"You used to be so cool, but now, you know you're so cold"

  

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Doronmonkflake
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14. "It was. I was wrong about the race. The rest is bull, tho."
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Da bayball, babeh. (c) Charlie Kelly.

  

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Doronmonkflake
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16. "Orlando"
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http://bossip.com/1154134/police-aint-isht-florida-cops-caught-on-tape-brutally-beating-unarmed-man-video/

Da bayball, babeh. (c) Charlie Kelly.

  

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