My personal definition includes the physical traits, personal values that a person has along with a sense of the social history, status and privileges a person has or lacks.
3. "I've yet to read or come upon a better more accurate description of" In response to Reply # 0 Wed Jun-03-15 05:05 PM by vee-lover
what exactly constitutes a race than that what William Edward Burghardt Dubois wrote more than half a century ago....
"If this be true, then the history of the world is the history, not of individuals, but of groups, not of nations, but of races, and he who ignores or seeks to override the race idea in human history ignores and overrides the central thought of all history. What, then, is a race? --->It is a vast family of human beings, generally of common blood and language, always of common history, traditions and impulses, who are both voluntarily and involuntarily striving together for the accomplishment of certain more or less vividly conceived ideals of life."<----
7. "that defintion seems like it could also apply to a culture" In response to Reply # 5 Wed Jun-03-15 05:23 PM by Selah
if you agree, do you think DuBois was using "race" as we now use "culture"?
if you disagree, what delineation do you see between that definition of race and how YOU would define a culture?
at risk of opening a can of worms think there is a delineation between race and culture, hence my interpretation of "black" as a race (used, for lack of a better term, as the catch-all for those in the African diaspora), but "Black" as a culture (North American blacks by culture, who are different than say black cubans or somesuch)
8. "Ok, gotcha - yes, I do believe Dubois was using culture and race" In response to Reply # 7
synonymously
In Dubois' view, culture/history, more than bloodline, determines race - "generally of common blood...*always* of common history"
>if you agree, do you think DuBois was using "race" as we now >use "culture"? > >if you disagree, what delineation do you see between that >definition of race and how YOU would define a culture?
Atillah Moor Member since Sep 05th 2013 13825 posts
Wed Jun-03-15 07:53 PM
10. "I'm trying to make it white people's problem and not mine" In response to Reply # 0 Wed Jun-03-15 08:00 PM by Atillah Moor
It's simple-- Human is the race and outside of that I can't find any logic for its existence as a concept and social construct other than to serve as a tool for division, oppression, control, etc. To me the reality is that race (as we use it) and class are completely interchangeable.
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