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"Where are Black (capital b) people located in NYC?"


  

          


By Black I mean having a direct connection to antebellum/US Slavery

For a variety of reasons this is a hard question to properly ask, but its something I've been thinking about. I see lots of people who are a part of the diaspora but I cannot ID the areas where the bend is (for lack of a better word) uniquely "African American" (tricky word in NYC considering the number of actual Africans here)


I guess I wanna know where the Black (capital b) people at who've been in NY for generations? I can ID areas where Caribbean cats are, I can ID areas where Africans are but I cant ID an area where capital B Black people are....is it (was it) Harlem? or......


shit does this shit even make sense anymore? This is what Im talking about, the more I think about it, the more it kinda falls apart


anyway, if you know what I mean, help, If i was super ignorant about the question, please teach.

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The B(b)lack distinction is far murkier in NYC than in the rest of the U...
May 26th 2015
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re: "Since so many people are both." this is what Im talking about
May 26th 2015
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b&B have shared neighborhoods for a long time
May 26th 2015
10
      right, it just gets more and more complicated.
May 26th 2015
12
           Precisely why I can't take that concept seriously.
May 26th 2015
42
                this post is a living example of the dilemma.
May 26th 2015
43
impossible. you either is or you aint
May 26th 2015
46
      your American
May 28th 2015
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is (B)lack vs (b)lack a thing outside of this message board?
May 26th 2015
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very much so
May 26th 2015
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b vs B not as much but the struggle is real.
May 26th 2015
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I see it w latinos
May 26th 2015
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We all over fam
May 26th 2015
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1+
May 26th 2015
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Yes. "We all live together as we should."
May 26th 2015
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we used to be in Harlem and Brooklyn and some parts of Queens.
May 26th 2015
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mama Maude's something or other Is good soul food in Harlem
May 26th 2015
7
My memory only goes back as far as the 80's, but
May 26th 2015
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so, the soul food question is what got me thinking about all of this
May 26th 2015
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      a 2008 NYT article about Harlem's soul food struggle (LINK):
May 26th 2015
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      Ah...
May 26th 2015
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      This is the thing people sleep on
May 26th 2015
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           ha! I'm not alone then lol
May 26th 2015
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           so true
May 26th 2015
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      There's one good spot in Bed Stuy, right next to the Home Depot
May 26th 2015
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           Does Sugar Hill have good food?
May 26th 2015
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           O_O
May 26th 2015
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                that's how you know it's authentic.
May 26th 2015
51
Not for nothing, I was in Fort Greene park and Fulton Mall yesterday
May 26th 2015
13
Hrm try Great Migration
May 26th 2015
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my fam in chicago got there via the great migration
May 26th 2015
20
Bed Stuy was a traditional stronghold (with notable exceptions)
May 26th 2015
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Bed stuy, and I wanna say Hollis Queens and far rockaway
May 26th 2015
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the projects, co op city, fried chicken spots, frederick md, museums
May 26th 2015
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NDIBS
May 26th 2015
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Ladies and gentlemen....... NDIBS!
May 26th 2015
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      hold your applause. i forgot one. RIKERS.
May 26th 2015
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...
May 26th 2015
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You are so fucking special.
May 26th 2015
57
Kitana strikes again! BABALITY
May 27th 2015
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They moved to ATL and DC
May 26th 2015
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I struggle with this too
May 26th 2015
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dead @ "negro hunting"
May 26th 2015
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Ok, so those Muslims ARE from Philly?
May 26th 2015
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I think that has something to do with The Five Percent
May 26th 2015
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Honestly, I just assumed
May 26th 2015
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      1st time i saw a girl hijabed out i wanted to run up &hug her
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I got down on that good fish this weekend as well
May 26th 2015
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Oh...
May 26th 2015
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sometimes you want collard greens and cornbread
May 26th 2015
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right! N/m
May 26th 2015
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LMAO @ negro hunting.
May 26th 2015
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from what i understand a lot of black americans moved back down south
May 26th 2015
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oh i had been craving blk ppl fried fish for the longest
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I'm in the Bronx, where they hide everything.
May 26th 2015
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Blackness supersedes.
May 26th 2015
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?
May 26th 2015
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do not engage him on this topic.
May 26th 2015
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      aww man, i was looking for a show, I know Bin's history
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           right on.
May 26th 2015
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                Bin derails posts now with that shit
May 26th 2015
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This is like the only thing you and I agree on.
May 26th 2015
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      its not hard to grasp ppl dislike me so they hate
May 27th 2015
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they're in Atlanta
May 26th 2015
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harlem we still got the soul food
May 27th 2015
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can we talk about this? "Negrentrification"
May 27th 2015
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      what do you wonder about?
May 27th 2015
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      what is it exactly in the context of this discussion and...
May 28th 2015
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      it happened in Fort Greene too
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1. "The B(b)lack distinction is far murkier in NYC than in the rest of the U..."
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Since so many people are both.

  

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8. "re: "Since so many people are both." this is what Im talking about"
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10. "b&B have shared neighborhoods for a long time"
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If your mom's people are B and your pops' people are b, what are you?

  

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12. "right, it just gets more and more complicated. "
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42. "Precisely why I can't take that concept seriously."
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"You can take an African out of Africa, but you can't take Africa out of the African"
Afro-Americana/Afro-Caribbana/Afro-Latino unite. We are ALL Black!

  

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43. "this post is a living example of the dilemma."
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homie wants to know where the ___ @.

he knows NYC is FULL of African American ppl. but he also knows that a large # of those folks have known familial and cultural roots in the Caribbean or African. he wants to find the ppl who have familial and cultural roots in the American South (or Midwest).

he wants to know where they serve soul food.

sadly there is no word to easily identify these ppl in a way that distinguishes them from the other African Americans in NYC.

do you know of such a word?

fuck you.

  

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46. "impossible. you either is or you aint"
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Ive yet to meet the African or west Indian who isn't super proud of their heritage, country, culture etc...only we dont get to be the same. Fuck that.

  

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69. "your American"
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We're both black considering all black people originated in the same continent there is no sense for a distinction, we all have different culture, heritage, blacks from carribean came from slavery too. I'm Haitian ,neg noir (black man), which means my race is black my ethnicity is Haitian and my ancestors are from Africa, just like yours. Blacks from foreign places distinct themselves from African-Americans culturally not from the race.

  

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2. "is (B)lack vs (b)lack a thing outside of this message board?"
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3. "very much so"
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not always notated with the capitalization, but it exists.

  

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6. "b vs B not as much but the struggle is real."
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meaning the struggle for clarity of language when one wants to talk about Us specifically when one means to exclude them.

fuck you.

  

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16. "I see it w latinos"
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Chris Rock got caught up in it when talking about baseball recently

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We out in Brownsville, Bed Stuy, East New York. Crown Heights. The thing is we don't really live separately from the islanders. We all live together as we should. But if you want to see B-lack celebrations during the summer go to any housing projects holiday (see Brownsville Day). Good time had by all.

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27. "Yes. "We all live together as we should.""
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5. "we used to be in Harlem and Brooklyn and some parts of Queens."
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now? uh...

the last time i was there looking for Us i couldn't hardly find Us. like when i wanted some actual SOUL FOOD in Harlem i had an easier time finding Caribbean foods. to wit - some storied soul food joints were on the verge of closing.

fuck you.

  

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7. "mama Maude's something or other Is good soul food in Harlem "
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I'm sure there will be a few who chime and say they hate it tho lol

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9. "My memory only goes back as far as the 80's, but "
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I've never had good soul food in Harlem. The best soul food I've ever had in NYC was at the now-defunct Princess Pamela's.

  

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11. "so, the soul food question is what got me thinking about all of this"
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Like, I can find good ass caribbean food no problem
but I cant think of more than one or two soul food places off the top

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14. "a 2008 NYT article about Harlem's soul food struggle (LINK):"
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/06/nyregion/06soulfood.html?pagewanted=all

...i feel your pain.

the last time i visited Harlem i ate breakfast at some joint and i think it closed permanently a few months after. this was the morning after i'd tried to have some s/f for dinner and couldn't find a single place - i ended up eating Jamaican food instead.



fuck you.

  

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18. "Ah..."
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>Like, I can find good ass caribbean food no problem
>but I cant think of more than one or two soul food places off
>the top

Yeah that always has been a prob as far as I know
Me and my fam just went down south or various aunts and uncles in NY
Shoot even my mom learned

Restaurant going wasn't a big thing in my fam so I'm not surprised
Matter o fact eating out regularly for me is a white people thing
I do it more now because there are more options in my area
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21. "This is the thing people sleep on"
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This whole culture of eating out on the reg is still new to many of us. I grew up eating at home most of the time. I kinda always viewed eating out as white folks stuff too. Not saying it was but that was my view growing up (poor). The hustlers ate out a lot in my neighborhood. Those were the regulars in the coffee shops or whatever.

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25. "ha! I'm not alone then lol"
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19. "There's one good spot in Bed Stuy, right next to the Home Depot"
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Just looked it up because I forgot the name - Sugarhill Supper Club.

  

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31. "Does Sugar Hill have good food?"
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That place has been there since I was a kid. I always viewed it as the old folks get down spot.

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32. "O_O"
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All I know about that place is that it used to ALWAYS get shot up during their weekly club nights/parties.

  

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51. "that's how you know it's authentic."
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>All I know about that place is that it used to ALWAYS get
>shot up during their weekly club nights/parties.

  

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13. "Not for nothing, I was in Fort Greene park and Fulton Mall yesterday"
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Lots and lots of capital B Black folks out yesterday, even in a rapidly changing tourist-friendly Dwntwn Brklyn

  

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15. "Hrm try Great Migration"
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That would include my fam

They are in ENY, Flatbush and queens
1st gen northerners at this point moved to Cali, Jersey and some stayed in NY

They are still here just mixed in with the worldwide diaspora Blacks in the neighborhoods

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20. "my fam in chicago got there via the great migration "
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and chicago is hella B.

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17. "Bed Stuy was a traditional stronghold (with notable exceptions)"
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I think Harlem is still largely Black, as far as the black community goes.

But NYC was maybe the main entrepot for West Indians after they started letting them in in the mid-60's, so there's not really many majority Black neighborhoods anymore. In fact, West Indians replaced white people in certain neighborhoods as they moved in in the 60's and 70's, like Flatbush. The 60 year old Irish co-worker who sits behind me was born and raised in Flatbush when it was all Irish, but his family bounced 40 years ago. As a result, there are lots of majority West Indian neighborhoods.

  

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22. "Bed stuy, and I wanna say Hollis Queens and far rockaway"
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Also, even though West Indians moved into Canarsie in the 70s, there are alot of american blacks in east new york, all up and down Pennsylvania Ave.

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24. "the projects, co op city, fried chicken spots, frederick md, museums"
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i never worked with or had a class with a Black person from nyc the whole time i lived there.

  

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26. "NDIBS"
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28. "Ladies and gentlemen....... NDIBS!"
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33. "hold your applause. i forgot one. RIKERS."
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57. "You are so fucking special."
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67. "Kitana strikes again! BABALITY"
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29. "They moved to ATL and DC"
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30. "I struggle with this too"
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I miss Us and the way we do things a lot... specifically the food, language and southern cultural references. I found a handful of Black friends but Ive had a hard time extending it beyond the ones I met when I first moved here. Everyone says it's lots they in bed stuy but honestly in the past 5 years I haven't met anyone from bedstuy that wasn't West Indian. I really live too far from Harlem to be go on random negro hunting trips up there but that's where everyone swears they are too. I don't know...
My BF swears I'm not WOKE because I say the culture is similar but there are differences, yet he stays making fun of my southernisms. He was mad at me the other day because I got some properly seasoned and hard fried whiting at the Dance Africa and I wouldn't share. You know how hard it is to get properly seasoned hard fried whiting in Nyc? I get that shit like twice a year when the Muslims come up from philly for the street fairs. Touch my fish and I'll have a conniption.
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35. "dead @ "negro hunting""
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36. "Ok, so those Muslims ARE from Philly?"
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I mean to ask them every year when I get the food (I think they do the Harlem Book Fair, too), but then I always forget, just like this year.

What's always tripped me out about New York, coming from Philly, is the lack of non-African-continent B(b)lack Muslims up here. Even with the legacy of Malcolm X, I almost never see girls wearing kemars or anything. They were and are part of the fabric of Black Philly and they're basically absent up here.

  

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37. "I think that has something to do with The Five Percent"
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This being the home of the knowledge at one point it was so huge that Black people discussing Islam more often than not were Five Percenters.

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55. "Honestly, I just assumed"
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I don't know where else you can find southern cooking black Muslims in the full hijab and abaya except Philly and Chicago.
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61. "1st time i saw a girl hijabed out i wanted to run up &hug her"
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On some long lost sister mode


Had been in nyc up from Philly for years at that point



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38. "I got down on that good fish this weekend as well"
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Can't let that go by. I know exactly what you mean on the seasoning for the fish. That said, I always loved A Taste of Seafood up in Harlem on 125. I haven't been in years (since they moved from the corner spot) but it was always official.

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39. "Oh..."
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I don't even like fish
But that was the second time I liked fish was at the BAM bazaar years ago

Why is it so difficult for people to get a hard fry down pat?
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40. "sometimes you want collard greens and cornbread"
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and not callaloo and coco bread.

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54. "right! N/m"
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44. "LMAO @ negro hunting."
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Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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45. "from what i understand a lot of black americans moved back down south"
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during the late 90s and early 2000s.

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65. "oh i had been craving blk ppl fried fish for the longest"
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and finally got some on monday at the dance africa bazaar
my face lit up when i saw the piles of whiting
and they had crinkle cut fries too?
if i had more cash on me i would've gotten wings too
i finished my last piece of fish yesterday and i want more

all the spots around home are gone

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41. "I'm in the Bronx, where they hide everything."
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47. "Blackness supersedes."
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Y'all will get it one day


does it really matter?

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49. "?"
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50. "do not engage him on this topic."
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he is incorrect.

or, the views he expresses on this as related to the 'exclusivity' issue are solely his own. several of us (here and elsewhere) agree w/the b/B thing but not w/the rest of his nonsense.

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52. "aww man, i was looking for a show, I know Bin's history"
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53. "right on."
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he'll undoubtedly give you one.

go on and poke that bear - you know what's up.

fuck you.

  

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59. "Bin derails posts now with that shit"
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Maybe not even intentionally
But its just such a tired trope, its a pointless tangent.

Anyway to add on, from what I know NYC Blacks have not hung onto their southern / midwest roots in a while. From the outside looking in, I have always felt the Capital Black New Yorker was almost a species onto its own. There is something about the culture of Black NY that was almost as super urban uncountry as possible. I think New York Blackness (even without the outside WI or PR influence) forged into something si so distinct that it was possible to exported to other cities. Hip-Hop is a big part of that culture. They have more allegiance to hip-hop culture than they do to any other signifiers of American blackness.

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58. "This is like the only thing you and I agree on."
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Not sure why the concept is so hard to grasp.

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66. "its not hard to grasp ppl dislike me so they hate"
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But they know I'm right

  

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56. "they're in Atlanta"
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60. "harlem we still got the soul food"
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But half the spots are owned by WI. or Asians w WI/africans in the kitchen



Them old school adam clayton powell groupies that be at every political organizing meeting and fish fry are generations deep negritude



Harlem week, Harlem book fair, african American day parade i feel are all majority Black


Although id say there is a (growing?) separation of the Blk folk that been here and the recent transplants(Negrentrification)

Or not separation but the 1st group is shrinking/dying/moving back down south 3 generations later



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62. "can we talk about this? "Negrentrification""
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>Although id say there is a (growing?) separation of the Blk
>folk that been here and the recent
>transplants(Negrentrification)
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>Or not separation but the 1st group is shrinking/dying/moving
>back down south 3 generations later


this is something I wonder about as a recent black/ Black transplant

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63. "what do you wonder about?"
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>this is something I wonder about as a recent black/ Black
>transplant


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68. "what is it exactly in the context of this discussion and..."
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is it evil?

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64. "it happened in Fort Greene too"
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