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>>Superman is not the only superhero in the DCU (or the
>Marvel
>>Universe) with his level of strength and stamina.
>>Wonder Woman,
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>Nope, she can make him pause for a moment, but her strength
>level is below Supes.
What was that story, The OMAC Project, where Maxwell Lord possess Superman and he and Wonder Woman spent a whole issue fighting it out? She held her own. Plus she has a magic sword, and Superman accidentally cut hisself on it.
Pretty sure they've fought in something newer, but I didn't read it. If her strength level is below Supes, it would mean he's at 90 and she's at 85 or 80.
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>>Shazam
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>Arguable, but he -has- beaten Supes before (and also lost to
>him). Since Black Adam is as powerful as Captain Marvel, he
>would be another being capable of sending Supes to the hurt
>locker.
And Mary Marvel. And Captain Marvel Jr. And the new kids they introduced to the Shazam! Family so that everyone wasn't white anymore.
But really, only Billy or Adam's ever going to go up against Supes. If they had Mary clock Superman across the jaw, fanboys would riot (even though it is made clear over and over again that the Shazam! beings share the same power level, so long as only one of them is active at one time; otherwise the power is split.)
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>>Martian Manhunter
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>Fights with J'ohnn end in a stalemate with Supes. He's as
>strong and as durable.
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>>and - if you want you cross
>>the border -
>>Hulk
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>Has no known limit to his strength. The angrier he gets, the
>stronger he gets. He's really in a class all his own when it
>comes to strength. A fight with Supes would likely do nothing
>more than piss him off to the point where he would crush
>Supe's skull. Plus, Hulk is also incredibly fast and agile
>when he needs to be, there will be no escaping him.
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>>and Thor
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>Definitely arguable. Captain Marvel theoretically bests Thor
>having derived his abilities from multiple Sky Fathers.
>Hercules' strength being called "Class 1000" where Thor's at
>Class 500 when enraged, Class 250 with the Belt of Strength,
>and Class 125 under normal conditions. Add to that the rest of
>Cap's Godly mix and you have a being that should be able to
>devastate Thor... This means he's no match for Superman.
I know they did a great job of explaining the science behind the hammer and lightning, but does that mean it doesn't count as magic? That was sort of what I was basing it on.
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>>Aside from that, Superman's strength, speed, and stamina may
>>be of superhuman levels, but they are finite. If you have
>>enough power, you can knock Superman's block off.
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>Darkseid can do this.
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>"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the
>peace when we were getting laid out?
>Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances?
>Where is the peace then?
>They don't want to call for peace then.
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