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"Duggar Update: Show pulled from lineup"


  

          

I searched.

https://www.yahoo.com/tv/tlc-pulls-19-kids-and-counting-in-wake-of-josh-119614188615.html

Doesn't equal cancellation but better be the first step towards it.

Mama June said she's gonna sue TLC if they don't cancel 19 kids: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/22/june-shannon-cancel-19-kids-counting_n_7421202.html

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Subject Author Message Date ID
I need more outrage!!!
May 22nd 2015
1
OOPS!
May 22nd 2015
2
I wish Mama June would shut the fuck up
May 22nd 2015
3
her point is more than valid though
May 22nd 2015
5
      RE: her point is more than valid though
May 22nd 2015
8
      RE: read again, not cancelled. ALLADAT = suspended
May 22nd 2015
10
      So then she STILL has a valid point
May 22nd 2015
11
      theres no valid points: all are involved with child molesters
May 23rd 2015
25
           You forgot something: Josh Duggar was, himself, a child
May 23rd 2015
29
                I didnt forget a damn thing
May 23rd 2015
30
                "fondled breasts and vaginas while they slept"
May 23rd 2015
32
                at that time (2002) his sisters were aged 12, 11, 10, 9, and 5.
May 23rd 2015
34
                They can't. It's outside the statue of limitations (w/swipe)
May 23rd 2015
39
                     or, a victim that wasn't included in those reports can come forward
May 23rd 2015
40
                Thanks, that clears this up immensely.
May 23rd 2015
35
                RE: You're assuming ALOT
May 23rd 2015
33
                I agreed with you on this though...
May 23rd 2015
41
                     no doubt, first I saw it too...but that's a part of the problem in and o...
May 23rd 2015
43
                          It appears the interwebs and Oprah knew about dude years ago
May 23rd 2015
44
                Yeah and ppl are judging the parents for how they dealt with it.
May 23rd 2015
36
TLC has been profiting off of fucked up lives forever.
May 22nd 2015
4
Love it....
May 22nd 2015
6
why do folks go on reality TV when they KNOW there's bones in their clos...
May 22nd 2015
7
A fucking walk in closet with a bone yard.
May 22nd 2015
9
bone hangers, bone shelves, bone colored walls...
May 22nd 2015
12
      RE: bone hangers, bone shelves, bone colored walls...
May 22nd 2015
14
money
May 22nd 2015
13
More to the point, how do you condemn gay marriage with this
May 22nd 2015
16
what other kind of person would want to go on reality TV?
May 23rd 2015
18
i don't see how they don't cancel this
May 22nd 2015
15
it will be cancelled by the end of the week..trust
May 23rd 2015
31
What happens when you tell your kids they can't hold hands
May 22nd 2015
17
I feel so bad for the sisters
May 23rd 2015
19
agreed completely
May 25th 2015
52
dont kno the story or characters. wld u turn your son/bro in?
May 23rd 2015
20
Yes. If your son is molesting your daughters, you remove your son
May 23rd 2015
27
would you let a guy who molested 4 of your daughters live in your house?
May 23rd 2015
28
once again the hypocrisy of the christian horde
May 23rd 2015
21
RE: once again the hypocrisy of the christian horde
May 23rd 2015
22
Dan Savage going in......(SWIPE)
May 23rd 2015
23
Josh Duggar poses with his important pals
May 23rd 2015
24
their PR people are busy this weekend..no bbq for them lol
May 23rd 2015
26
the pin kills me
May 23rd 2015
37
      kinda close to Sarah's boob
May 23rd 2015
38
Huckabee defends it
May 26th 2015
62
      that fam pic of his looks like a Duggar situation
May 27th 2015
98
What do you really do as a parent??
May 23rd 2015
42
5 easy steps...
May 23rd 2015
45
Hell no. I wouldn't have called the police on my kid.
May 26th 2015
63
      i hate calling the police on anyone black
May 26th 2015
84
           word.
May 26th 2015
89
RE: Does he ever come back?
May 23rd 2015
46
      And thats the problem, with 19 kids you won't know WTF is going on
May 23rd 2015
47
Josh Duggar Records Destroyed at Judge's Request
May 23rd 2015
48
RE: Josh Duggar Records Destroyed at Judge's Request
May 24th 2015
50
Arkansas Police Destroyed 2006 Report Against Josh Duggar; Read It Here
May 24th 2015
49
so they never heard of the state pickin up a charge?
May 24th 2015
51
josh duggar's fans taking bullets for him on instagram
May 25th 2015
53
Josh admitted he was wrong... unlike the gays!
May 25th 2015
54
I didnt know he had kids
May 25th 2015
55
Why aren't mainstream media reporting he molested his sisters?
May 25th 2015
56
I saw a commentator remark that the older sister was NOT one of the
May 25th 2015
57
Why do people need gimmicks to live a good life ??
May 26th 2015
58
'Josh Dugger was just playing doctor, so leave him alone'
May 26th 2015
59
Josh Duggar Made a Joke About Incest On TV
May 26th 2015
60
Good
May 26th 2015
61
im only 'mad' about the Duggars' hypocrisy. I'm not mad that they shiele...
May 26th 2015
64
RE: they did the right thing by their son.
May 26th 2015
65
Yeah I dunno about all that he's saying
May 26th 2015
66
i'd have done the same thing if he were my son.
May 26th 2015
68
      Yeah that's not better
May 26th 2015
70
      cool.
May 26th 2015
71
           Actually that shit ain't cool
May 26th 2015
72
                naw.
May 26th 2015
73
                     i understand you
May 26th 2015
77
                     it would've torn me up inside!
May 26th 2015
79
                     Nah you sound like the duggars
May 26th 2015
80
                          *shrug*
May 26th 2015
81
      i would keep him out of the CJS but i damn sure would keep him out my ho...
May 26th 2015
85
      i say 'fuck them' too
May 26th 2015
86
      I can see not turning your child into the police too
May 26th 2015
91
           agreed.
May 26th 2015
92
           because folks think they are counselors
May 27th 2015
96
keyword: son
May 26th 2015
67
      RE: keyword: 19 kids
May 26th 2015
74
           *pats head*
May 26th 2015
75
                RE: the Duggars did right by themselves.
May 26th 2015
76
                     LOL
May 26th 2015
78
                          what would you do if this was your son?
May 26th 2015
82
                          LOL
May 26th 2015
87
                          =/=
May 26th 2015
83
                               sweetie, read what i type and don't add anything to it.
May 26th 2015
88
Sowhat is 100% correct
May 27th 2015
95
RE: Sowhat is 100% correct
May 27th 2015
97
kill de white ppl!
May 27th 2015
100
      RE: kill de white ppl!
May 27th 2015
104
cant we get our Frankenstein villagers with torches on?
May 27th 2015
99
IKR... I bet everyone on here knows about a family member
May 27th 2015
101
      oh, my stance isn't about any desire to keep fam biz secret.
May 27th 2015
102
So you ship them off so they can molest other people's children
May 27th 2015
105
      I wouldn't hand my kid over to the poilce in any of those situations.
May 27th 2015
107
just curious, how far would you let your son go
May 31st 2015
113
RE: Duggar Update: Show pulled from lineup
May 26th 2015
69
Yeah i figure it's the same type of therapy to cure the gay
May 26th 2015
90
Drugger daddy says incest should be treated as capital crime
May 26th 2015
93
That shoe starting to drop. Advertisers dropping out.....
May 27th 2015
94
RE: That shoe starting to drop. Advertisers dropping out.....
May 27th 2015
103
Command + F .. Type in "Case_One"... Yup.. Never fails.
May 27th 2015
106
RE: Command + F .. Type in "Case_One"... Yup.. Never fails.
May 27th 2015
109
So the state trooper they originally reported it to is also a molester?
May 27th 2015
108
whut? tell me this didnt happen
May 30th 2015
110
forgive the 14 yr old cracka molester, kill 12 yr old black kid
May 30th 2015
111
This is so Duck Dynasty-ish. WTF did people expect?
May 30th 2015
112

bentagain
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1. "I need more outrage!!!"
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Fri May-22-15 03:05 PM by bentagain

  

          

ironic to see this story in contrast to Ray Rice

why aren't you mad?

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2. "OOPS!"
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fuck you.

  

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3. "I wish Mama June would shut the fuck up"
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aside from being ungodly ugly she seems to be a douchebag of the highest order.

Fix yo own family fo' you start fucking with anybody else.

Fuck the Duggars tho

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5. "her point is more than valid though"
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Dude June was fuckin with never appeared on camera, so he wasn't really a part of the show and her shit got cancelled when word got out about his background.

This Duggar slimeball was an integral part of the show and has admitted to molesting several kids. If TLC DIDN'T cancel the Duggars show June would have had grounds for a massive lawsuit.

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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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8. "RE: her point is more than valid though"
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>Dude June was fuckin with never appeared on camera, so he
>wasn't really a part of the show and her shit got cancelled
>when word got out about his background.
>
>This Duggar slimeball was an integral part of the show and has
>admitted to molesting several kids. If TLC DIDN'T cancel the
>Duggars show June would have had grounds for a massive
>lawsuit.


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10. "RE: read again, not cancelled. ALLADAT = suspended"
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11. "So then she STILL has a valid point"
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and grounds for a lawsuit.

If the show's only been suspended, then Mama June has every right to be pissed 'cause TLC moved quicker to cancel her shit.

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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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25. "theres no valid points: all are involved with child molesters"
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>Dude June was fuckin with never appeared on camera, so he
>wasn't really a part of the show and her shit got cancelled
>when word got out about his background.
>
>This Duggar slimeball was an integral part of the show and has
>admitted to molesting several kids. If TLC DIDN'T cancel the
>Duggars show June would have had grounds for a massive
>lawsuit.
>
>---------------------------
>
>"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the
>peace when we were getting laid out?
>Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances?
>Where is the peace then?
>They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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29. "You forgot something: Josh Duggar was, himself, a child"
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Sat May-23-15 02:16 PM by PoppaGeorge

  

          

My wife and I were discussing this last night. What she read about Josh was that he was basically running around grabbing girls butts and boobs while he was 14. I took a look today and, yep, that's pretty much what he did...

... Something that a whole lot of 14 year old boys have done and are doing now. Shit... A lot of y'all dudes on this board probably did similar shit when you were 14.

To frame this as "child molestation"... Something doesn't sit right about it particularly when "molestation" is frequently used interchangeably with "rape" even though the two are completely different. That's not to say that Duggar *wasn't* molesting these girls, but we don't have enough details on this to if he was simply doing the grab-ass thing or was being a lecherous molester with it.

Oh... the fact that his sister was one of the girls is pretty fuckin nasty.

But, in your defense, a child CAN be hit with statutory rape or child molestation charges considering that in Utah a 13 year old girl was charged with statutory rape for having sex with her 12 year old boyfriend.

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_4783650

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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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30. "I didnt forget a damn thing"
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>My wife and I were discussing this last night. What she read
>about Josh was that he was basically running around grabbing
>girls butts and boobs while he was 14. I took a look today
>and, yep, that's pretty much what he did...
>
>... Something that a whole lot of 14 year old boys have done
>and are doing now. Shit... A lot of y'all dudes on this board
>probably did similar shit when you were 14.
>
>To frame this as "child molestation"... Something doesn't sit
>right about it particularly when "molestation" is frequently
>used interchangeably with "rape" even though the two are
>completely different. That's not to say that Duggar *wasn't*
>molesting these girls, but we don't have enough details on
>this to if he was simply doing the grab-ass thing or was being
>a lecherous molester with it.
>
>Oh... the fact that his sister was one of the girls is pretty
>fuckin nasty.
>
>But, in your defense, a child CAN be hit with statutory rape
>or child molestation charges considering that in Utah a 13
>year old girl was charged with statutory rape for having sex
>with her 12 year old boyfriend.
>
>http://www.denverpost.com/ci_4783650
>
>---------------------------
>
>"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the
>peace when we were getting laid out?
>Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances?
>Where is the peace then?
>They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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32. ""fondled breasts and vaginas while they slept""
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Sat May-23-15 02:43 PM by luvlee2003

          

http://m.imgur.com/a/zqPMi

And if you look up the ages of his sisters at that time (2002) his sisters were aged 12, 11, 10, 9, and 5.

This wasn't a case of kids playing hide and go get it or "a boy just being a boy". It was probably a traumatic violation of boundaries/personal space at the very least.

My guess is he didn't know better or wasn't taught that just because he was a boy doesn't mean he got to take and grab anything that pleased him regardless of how it affected others.

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bentagain
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34. "at that time (2002) his sisters were aged 12, 11, 10, 9, and 5."
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Sat May-23-15 02:57 PM by bentagain

  

          

those commas on page 11 = 4 sisters?

welp, that about does it for me.

lock him up!



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39. "They can't. It's outside the statue of limitations (w/swipe)"
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They can't even file a civil suit against him:

§16-56-130(a) Arkansas civil claims must be filed within 3 years of the discovery of childhood sexual abuse.

and:

http://hollywoodlife.com/2015/05/21/josh-duggar-facing-criminal-charges-molesting-attorneys-react/

"Q: Could Josh and Jim Bob be prosecuted now or has the statute of limitations expired?

A: It is likely that the statute of limitations have expired for any offenses that might have been committed. The allegations against Josh would most likely have been prosecuted as sexual assault in the second degree (A.C.A. section 5-14-125), defined as sexual conduct with a person less than fourteen years old by a person who is under the age of eighteen. This is a class B felony. The statute of limitations for a class B felony is three years. The statute of limitations is extended if the offense is committed against a minor. In that case, the three years does not begin until the victim turns eighteen. However, this exception only applies if the offense was not previously reported to a law enforcement agency. From what we know, these alleged offenses occurred thirteen years ago and were reported at least twelve years ago,” Criminal Defense Attorney Jason Files tells HollywoodLife.com EXCLUSIVELY."

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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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40. "or, a victim that wasn't included in those reports can come forward"
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Sat May-23-15 03:24 PM by bentagain

  

          

and fall within those guidelines

again, you're assuming he didn't molest anybody else.

it could turn into a Cosby running tally

now that the story has broken

maybe others will come forward.

and we also learned from Cosby that different states have different statutes*

being that they were on a TV show, made appearances, etc...

I'd imagine this could have occurred somewhere that those statutes aren't as limiting for criminal charges to be brought.

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35. "Thanks, that clears this up immensely."
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>http://m.imgur.com/a/zqPMi
>
>And if you look up the ages of his sisters at that time (2002)
>his sisters were aged 12, 11, 10, 9, and 5.

The last page of the report is where it's at. So dude was being a nasty ass pervert and pretty much deserved the title "molester".


>This wasn't a case of kids playing hide and go get it or "a
>boy just being a boy". It was probably a traumatic violation
>of boundaries/personal space at the very least.

Agreed.


>My guess is he didn't know better or wasn't taught that just
>because he was a boy doesn't mean he got to take and grab
>anything that pleased him regardless of how it affected
>others.

I won't go so far as to say alladat. Him being a boy really doesn't have anything to do with it because girls do it too.

http://globegazette.com/news/state-and-regional/year-old-girl-accused-of-sexual-assault/article_38284449-0f6d-53cb-8498-c7f3e59e9f94.html



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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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bentagain
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33. "RE: You're assuming ALOT"
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I'm not sure what ya'll are reading or even what it's based on

but given that there weren't charges, police involvement, etc...

what would you expect those stories to say?

I think the number was 5

so let's say 5 victims brought complaints

you're assuming his actions are limited to just those victims

and are assuming he never did this to anyone else

but if any of the victims are indeed a sibling = pause

no, I have NEVER groped my sister

and this is the issue

even if you want to dismiss/rationalize his actions as normal adolescence (<-- again, you're making ALOT of assumptions here)

EVERYBODY would agree it is wrong to grope/fondle your sister

the fact that dude either didn't recognize that line

or couldn't restrain himself

is the issue

there are obvious behaviors that need to be addressed

it also sounds like you're assuming the victims were in his same age group

being that this happened 13 years ago, I'll wait to hear their side of the story

before I arrive at, boys will be boys

c'mon

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41. "I agreed with you on this though..."
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>but if any of the victims are indeed a sibling = pause
>no, I have NEVER groped my sister
>and this is the issue
>even if you want to dismiss/rationalize his actions as normal
>adolescence (<-- again, you're making ALOT of assumptions
>here)
>EVERYBODY would agree it is wrong to grope/fondle your sister
>the fact that dude either didn't recognize that line
>or couldn't restrain himself
>is the issue
>there are obvious behaviors that need to be addressed

I wrote:

>Oh... the fact that his sister was one of the girls is pretty fuckin nasty.


>
>it also sounds like you're assuming the victims were in his
>same age group
>
>being that this happened 13 years ago, I'll wait to hear their
>side of the story
>
>before I arrive at, boys will be boys
>
>c'mon


This was written before I read the police report posted above. The description my wife and I read was simply that he "fondled girls" so it stands to reason that it may have been a case of "boys being boys".

The police report, however, says he did it while they were sleeping, so with that new information I've changed my view of what happened; this was definitely not a case of "boys being boys".

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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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43. "no doubt, first I saw it too...but that's a part of the problem in and o..."
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we've all seen the media coverage

obviously

but both you and I first see the police report on an internet message board...

...days later

strange, no?

you'd think that's where the story would start

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44. "It appears the interwebs and Oprah knew about dude years ago"
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http://defamer.gawker.com/the-web-has-known-about-josh-duggar-for-years-when-did-1706258269

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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
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36. "Yeah and ppl are judging the parents for how they dealt with it. "
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Not just him.

  

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4. "TLC has been profiting off of fucked up lives forever."
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It's a shame they don't stick to their immoral guns. The "Josh Is A Molester" season of 19 Kids would probably top all previous ratings.

But they will. They'll cancel it, and they'll replace it with "I Had Sex With A Chicken" or "Aren't Midgets Weird? Season 19495793808202." The forces of justice win again!

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6. "Love it...."
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As usual the staunch, family value-clinging, Bible-thumping bigots get their skirts pulled up.....

The Duggar family tried to cover up their son's various molestations...Then they had the nerve to preach that gays were a danger to kids....

U can't make this shit up...lol

Oh, and Montel Williams has been KILLING the Duggars on being laughably hypocritical....I had a cheese eating grin reading this shit....

http://www.theroot.com/blogs/the_grapevine/2015/05/_montel_williams_eviscerates_admitted_molester_josh_duggar_on_twitter.html



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7. "why do folks go on reality TV when they KNOW there's bones in their clos..."
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9. "A fucking walk in closet with a bone yard."
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>

fuck you.

  

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12. "bone hangers, bone shelves, bone colored walls..."
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Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
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14. "RE: bone hangers, bone shelves, bone colored walls..."
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LMAO!

What got me is that the Christian (way right) are on some...we all make mistakes shit. Now I am a GOD fearing Christian. But wow.... I believe in forgiveness and repenting. But that's not what he did. What he did was cover that shit up! Maybe he did repent to GOD, who's to really say. But knowing you had those skeletons in your closet, I would have done everything in my power to not show my face on television.

And let's not even talk about the fact that some of his victims were his own sisters.

Dude! Really?!

Not going to judge though...it is not my place. Though I do think it's quite ironic given the way he's been crusading against the LGBTQ community.

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13. "money"
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****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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16. "More to the point, how do you condemn gay marriage with this"
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in your closet?


This is what Jesus was talkin about.

Beam and mote.


Just shut up and let people live.

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18. "what other kind of person would want to go on reality TV?"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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15. "i don't see how they don't cancel this"
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should've been canceled immediately. the duggars have been coddling their daughters' abuser for over a decade, protecting him from the police, keeping him from legitimate counseling, even letting him continue to live in the same house with their girls.

the abuse went on for years, and their daughters got no counseling and no protection. nothing but an instruction to be good little christians and forgive. every priority was to make sure this didn't ruin the abuser's life, no priority was given to the victims.

not to mention that they've made millions covering it up. who would seriously continue watching this?

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31. "it will be cancelled by the end of the week..trust"
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>should've been canceled immediately. the duggars have been
>coddling their daughters' abuser for over a decade, protecting
>him from the police, keeping him from legitimate counseling,
>even letting him continue to live in the same house with their
>girls.
>
>the abuse went on for years, and their daughters got no
>counseling and no protection. nothing but an instruction to be
>good little christians and forgive. every priority was to make
>sure this didn't ruin the abuser's life, no priority was given
>to the victims.
>
>not to mention that they've made millions covering it up. who
>would seriously continue watching this?

  

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17. "What happens when you tell your kids they can't hold hands "
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Until they're married. Probably have Catholic Church priest levels of molestation in their little sect or cult or whatever you want to call it.

  

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19. "I feel so bad for the sisters"
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Having to live in a house where everyone is more concerned about protecting and covering for a molester than they are about the girls safety or well being.... Having to sit beside him at every dinner like nothing ever happened and smile. I can't even.
Of the people I know who have been through this, sadly I know more than one, none of them ever got over it. Mean while their families be on some, "I don't know why can't you get along with your brother.... he loves you?!?!"
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52. "agreed completely"
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If you're innocent, be cool.
Only the guilty's catchin' offence.

  

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20. "dont kno the story or characters. wld u turn your son/bro in?"
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I think that becomes the issue in family situations

Ppl can't come to grips that someone in the fam got sick monster tendencies


-In this particular case it sounds like they did nothing at all, smh



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27. "Yes. If your son is molesting your daughters, you remove your son"
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from the household

yes, it is really that simple

what you don't do

is allow him to remain in a household with 19 kids.

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28. "would you let a guy who molested 4 of your daughters live in your house?"
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it's crazy how concerned they were with their son's well-being and how much effort they put into protecting him from consequences while basically zero consideration was given to protecting the daughters.

remember, this went on for years after they first found out about it and they continued to let him live in the house. for all we know, it's still going on. dude went completely untreated and now has 3 or 4 kids of his own. those are their grandkids, and they're still to this day worried about protecting josh.

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21. "once again the hypocrisy of the christian horde"
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madness!!!!!!

http://gawker.com/the-duggar-homeschool-programs-terrifying-advice-on-sex-1706406324

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The lessons are frighteningly light on personal responsibility, and heavy on blame for the victim—condemning younger sisters for dressing “immodestly,” and parents for exposing the boy to temptation by having him change his sisters’ diapers. The document also blames porn, advising families to “pray for protection from pornography.”

According to Recovering Grace, ATI’s Counseling Seminar curriculum also includes a handout on “Counseling Sexual Abuse,” which examines the many ways that a victim could have brought abuse on him or herself by “defrauding” God: Did you dress immodestly? Were you, perhaps, associating with “evil” friends? You should consider whether you’re guilty and apologize to God.


Only then does it move on to what to do “if” the abused was miraculously “not at fault.” That advice basically consists of saying “It could be worse. At least I’ve still got my Spirit. And if I have to choose, I’d rather have that than not be sexually abused!”

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22. "RE: once again the hypocrisy of the christian horde"
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>madness!!!!!!
>
>http://gawker.com/the-duggar-homeschool-programs-terrifying-advice-on-sex-1706406324
>
>quote:
>
>The lessons are frighteningly light on personal
>responsibility, and heavy on blame for the victim—condemning
>younger sisters for dressing “immodestly,” and parents for
>exposing the boy to temptation by having him change his
>sisters’ diapers. The document also blames porn, advising
>families to “pray for protection from pornography.”
>
>According to Recovering Grace, ATI’s Counseling Seminar
>curriculum also includes a handout on “Counseling Sexual
>Abuse,” which examines the many ways that a victim could
>have brought abuse on him or herself by “defrauding” God:
>Did you dress immodestly? Were you, perhaps, associating with
>“evil” friends? You should consider whether you’re
>guilty and apologize to God.
>
>
>Only then does it move on to what to do “if” the abused
>was miraculously “not at fault.” That advice basically
>consists of saying “It could be worse. At least I’ve still
>got my Spirit. And if I have to choose, I’d rather have that
>than not be sexually abused!”


Sick shit^^^^^^^

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23. "Dan Savage going in......(SWIPE)"
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This shit is beyond crazy....Them chickens are roosting....



Dan Savage blasts Michelle Duggar’s hypocrisy: She demonized LGBT people after covering up for her son

Arturo Garcia


Columnist Dan Savage ripped reality show matriarch Michelle Duggar on Friday for openly campaigning against anti-discrimination protection for LGBT Arkansans while keeping secret the actual molestation committed by her son Josh.

“Just the hypocrisy of Michelle Duggar, demagoguing and demonizing LGBT people while at the same time having covered up for and protected her son — who had actually molested at least 5 little girls that we know of — is just staggering,” Savage told MSNBC host Chris Hayes. “It’s galling.”

Savage’s remarks were a reference to the elder Duggar lending her voice to “robocalls” last year calling for Ordinance 119, which allowed trans residents in Fayetteville, Arkansas to use locker rooms or bathrooms according to their gender identity.

In the calls, Duggar warned against “males with past child predator convictions that claim they are female” being allowed near their daughters in “their private space.”

But it was revealed earlier this week that by the time she recorded the calls, her son Josh Duggar had already fondled underage girls — including his own sisters — when he was 14-year-old. But instead of being arrested, Hayes said, the younger Duggar was sent away from the family’s home for “hard physical work and counseling.” No charges were ever filed.

On Thursday, Josh Duggar resigned his position at the Family Research Council after confirming the allegations, and the family’s show, 19 Kids and Counting, was pulled off the air at The Learning Channel a day later.

Hayes said on Friday that he could not imagine how Michelle and her husband, Jim Bob Duggar, could let their family go on national television given the nature of the secret they were keeping.

“As a parent, it just gobsmacks me,” Hayes said. “It gobsmacks me to do this to your kids.”

However, both Savage and Hayes expressed unease with what they described as a form of “delight” taken by some of the Duggars’ critics.

“We have to remember, as we talk about this, that five little girls — at least five little girls — were abused and molested,” Savage said. “And there’s nothing here to take delight in or to celebrate.”

“I also have seen that tone creep in in some places, and found it pretty gross,” Hayes said in agreement.

Link: http://www.rawstory.com/2015/05/dan-savage-blasts-michelle-duggars-hypocrisy-she-demonized-lgbt-people-after-covering-up-for-her-son/

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24. "Josh Duggar poses with his important pals"
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http://boingboing.net/2015/05/22/josh-duggar-poses-with-his-imp.html


Palin wearing a flag shirt... HAHAH

"The flag should not be used as "wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery",

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26. "their PR people are busy this weekend..no bbq for them lol"
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>http://boingboing.net/2015/05/22/josh-duggar-poses-with-his-imp.html
>
>
>Palin wearing a flag shirt... HAHAH
>
>"The flag should not be used as "wearing apparel, bedding, or
>drapery",

  

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reminds me of the campaign

  

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38. "kinda close to Sarah's boob"
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62. "Huckabee defends it"
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http://www.hngn.com/articles/95020/20150525/mike-huckabee-defends-josh-duggar-after-child-molestation-accusations-good-people-make-mistakes.htm

"Mistake" huh

Can't wait for the rest to parade out and denounce( which they need to be made to) or protect

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98. "that fam pic of his looks like a Duggar situation"
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>http://www.hngn.com/articles/95020/20150525/mike-huckabee-defends-josh-duggar-after-child-molestation-accusations-good-people-make-mistakes.htm
>
>"Mistake" huh
>
>Can't wait for the rest to parade out and denounce( which they
>need to be made to) or protect
>
>~~~~
>When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so
>that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries.
>~~~~
>You cannot hate people for their own good.

  

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42. "What do you really do as a parent??"
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Sure you get him some help, counseling, remove him from the home… but then what??

Does he ever come back? Do you just write him off, get him his own place??


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45. "5 easy steps..."
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1. Question both kids separately.

2. Remove the abuser from the house asap. That may mean he has to stay with a relative or family friend without kids. If none of that is available, go straight to the police so the abuser can be removed and taken to juvie.

3. Call the authorities right away. That could be the police, youth and family services, child welfare or any state agency. The authorities are NOT a pastor, a stern uncle, a basketball coach, a nigga from "scared straight." Anyone who wants to handle sexual abuse "in house" just wants to cover shit up. The child needs concrete punishment by the justice system. Not their tv taken away

4. Extensive counseling by a licensed mental health professional for everyone, the abuser, the abused, any exposed children and the parents. Not a pastor, not a coach... see above for who is not a licensed mental health practitioner.

5. If the abusing child comes back into the household after much counseling with consent most importantly from the uncoerced abused child, they should never be left unsupervised with their siblings and they should have to remain in counseling until they leave the house. That may mean an adult baby sitter even for teenagers.


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63. "Hell no. I wouldn't have called the police on my kid."
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And I have no problem with the Duggars trying to keep their son out of the CJS in theses cases. I'd have gotten the boy and the girls some help and likely some separation if it was needed and I'd have punished him if I thought he needed it. But no way I'd call the police on my kid. I can't see doing that here bc the CJS does a piss poor job handling juvenile offenders. And as a young BLACK boy? No way. Not for this.

fuck you.

  

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84. "i hate calling the police on anyone black "
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But rape, molestation and murder is an exception I have no problem making for any teen, boyfriend or husband or whomever. A small child? Maybe.... but a teenager molesting a 5 year old is going into the juvenile justice system if it's done in my house, my kid or not.
I know more than one family who decided to handle molestation in house, siblings at that, and let's just say it had dire consequences. If you molest anyone in my house you have to leave immediately by lick or by stick.
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89. "word."
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i wouldn't have called the police on my boy in this situation.

fuck you.

  

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46. "RE: Does he ever come back?"
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in a house with 19 kids

no.

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47. "And thats the problem, with 19 kids you won't know WTF is going on"
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19 kids is ridiculous. I guess the wife will keep pushing them out until she dies.. rolleyes..

>in a house with 19 kids
>
>no.

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48. "Josh Duggar Records Destroyed at Judge's Request"
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Ain't that some shit.. These white folks are wild as fuck.. Vile shit!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/23/josh-duggars-record-destroyed-police_n_7428762.html

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50. "RE: Josh Duggar Records Destroyed at Judge's Request"
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>Ain't that some shit.. These white folks are wild as fuck..
>Vile shit!!
>
>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/23/josh-duggars-record-destroyed-police_n_7428762.html



No chill what so ever. They don't give a fuck....lol

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49. "Arkansas Police Destroyed 2006 Report Against Josh Duggar; Read It Here"
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http://www.mediaite.com/online/arkansas-police-destroyed-2006-report-against-josh-duggar-read-it-here/


http://defamer.gawker.com/the-web-has-known-about-josh-duggar-for-years-when-did-1706258269


In May 2007, the allegations surfaced online in a comment on a blog about the Duggars. Commenter “Alice”—who has since been referred to on various Duggar message boards as the originator of the rumor—wrote (emphasis added):

Let me tell you something about the precious Duggars that you don’t know. ... In January, the whole family went to Chicago and taped Oprah Winfrey show. Oprah wined and dined them for one week. You know that had to cost some pretty pennies. As you may have noticed, that show never aired and it never will. Oprah was informed that Josh, the oldest son, had been molesting his sisters. Yes, this is the truth. Oprah turned them over to the Arkansas State Police Child Protection Agency and the Washington County Child Protection Agency. They have been investigated to some length. Jim Bob Duggar told the producers of the show that he built a small church out back for his followers. HIS FOLLOWERS. GET REAL. THE MAN IS A FRAUD. In April, they were in court with their story. They have to report to Arkansas Department of Human Services every six months.. They have lied and lied about their son to protect him at their daughters expense. For some unknown reason the boy is still in the home with the girls. God only know if this is still going on. In my eyes he is a CHILD MOLESTOR. HE SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE HOME. What kind of parents cover up for one child and hurt the others. I do not believe that this is what God has in mind for them. Frauding the American people and taking their money and living off of it.They did not build their home by themselves. They hired it done. TheDiscovery Health Channel and the TLC channel wrote them a check for over $200,000. for the to build the house. Everything inside the house was given to them except the kitchen. They did buy that themselves. The rest is all free. ...

Alice added, “God’s honest truth that the molestation happened. It happened to four of his 5 sisters. The oldest daughter was not touched. The second daughter is the one who caught him doing this. There was no rape involved, but molested. I could go into detail, but I won’t. Of course, you can find nothing about the charges. The Duggar’s want to keep this hid. Wouldn’t you?”

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51. "so they never heard of the state pickin up a charge?"
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Is that no longer a thing?

No harm, no foul?

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53. "josh duggar's fans taking bullets for him on instagram"
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3092175/We-skeletons-closet-Supporters-trolls-battle-Josh-Duggar-s-Instagram-account-19-Kids-reality-star-admits-child-molestation.html

i think case_one is in there somewhere

If you're innocent, be cool.
Only the guilty's catchin' offence.

  

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54. "Josh admitted he was wrong... unlike the gays!"
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55. "I didnt know he had kids"
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I hope he isn't molesting his own kids...SMH

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56. "Why aren't mainstream media reporting he molested his sisters?"
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You see that allegation in a few articles here and there but the majority of the articles I've read havent mentioned this.

That is HUGE and should be in bold print in every article about this matter.

  

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57. "I saw a commentator remark that the older sister was NOT one of the "
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victims

so yeah

a 5 Y.O.

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58. "Why do people need gimmicks to live a good life ??"
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And on a sidenote Case_One always has some bizzaro shit to say regarding religion. I see his monkey ass ain't stepped foot up in here.. HAHAH...CTFU!!!!!


http://gawker.com/quiverfull-of-shit-a-guide-to-the-duggars-scary-brand-1706557073


On the surface, Quiverfull follows your typical radical evangelical principles—every word of the Bible is taken literally, traditional gender roles and “family values” are emphasized, and the secular world is alternately scorned and feared. But followers of Quiverfull take one key tenet and let it shape the rest of their beliefs: Birth control is evil. They want to have as many children as possible, in order to build a pint-sized fundamentalist Christian army. The Quiverfull movement takes its name from this verse from Psalm 127 (KJV):


From the moment a Duggar in possession of a vagina is born or married into the family, she falls under the control of Christian Patriarchy. The wife is forever under the authority of her husband, and a daughter is completely subservient to her father until the day he finds a suitable husband to take up the role. The women of Quiverfull are never supposed to disobey their male authority figure, ever, even if it’s something they find immoral. Because they think God would rather you kill a guy because your husband says so than to disobey the orders of a man.


http://jezebel.com/the-duggar-girls-learned-to-kiss-from-jim-bob-and-josh-1706786807


Another high member of the Duggars’ religious sect also offered this defense:

She then compared the then-14-year-old Duggar’s actions to children “playing doctor.”

“When I was a kid, it was often called ‘playing doctor’, there were just as many girls initiating this kind of behavior as boys. Most of those never went on to perp horrible things, ” she explained. “The Duggers, who I have never watched–am not a fan, did it properly and the 14 year old boy should probably be left alone to live a good life, just like girls who do the same thing.”

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59. "'Josh Dugger was just playing doctor, so leave him alone'"
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These people are fucked beyond all comprehension, the whole lot needs to be jailed.. FUCKING hell!! American Taliban!!

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/05/mom-of-gun-toting-quiverfull-family-14-year-old-josh-duggar-was-playing-doctor-so-leave-him-alone/

She then compared the then-14-year-old Duggar’s actions to children “playing doctor.”

“When I was a kid, it was often called ‘playing doctor’, there were just as many girls initiating this kind of behavior as boys. Most of those never went on to perp horrible things, ” she explained. “The Duggers, who I have never watched–am not a fan, did it properly and the 14 year old boy should probably be left alone to live a good life, just like girls who do the same thing.”

Like the Duggars, the Hurd family is part of the Quiverfull moment, with eleven children — a far cry from the Duggar’s nineteen.

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60. " Josh Duggar Made a Joke About Incest On TV"
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WTF... shit just gets sicker and sicker every fucking day..

http://jezebel.com/hey-remember-that-time-josh-duggar-made-a-joke-about-i-1706765010

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61. "Good"
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64. "im only 'mad' about the Duggars' hypocrisy. I'm not mad that they shiele..."
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their son from the justice system. I'm 'mad' that the system worked in his favor where I'm not sure it would've worked so well for my kid. But based on the little info I have bc I'm not invested enough to dig into this case I think they did the right thing by their son. I'm appalled that the family went on to take some of the stances it has taken on issues related to child safety and ethics and shit. With this kind of secret there's no way they should've put their family in the public sphere unless and until they were prepared to front these bad facts.

fuck you.

  

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65. "RE: they did the right thing by their son. "
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and their daughters?

and/or 19 other kids?

I think you're missing the point

the info is in reply 32.

http://imgur.com/a/zqPMi#0

page 11 reads as 4 sisters.

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66. "Yeah I dunno about all that he's saying"
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>and their daughters?
>
>and/or 19 other kids?
>
>I think you're missing the point
>
>the info is in reply 32.
>
>http://imgur.com/a/zqPMi#0
>
>page 11 reads as 4 sisters.

That many children and he's 14?!
Nah at that point 'saving' that one needs to be overridden by keeping other children safe

Like no one is looking into his own kids?!!?

Nah
Nope
Uh unh

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68. "i'd have done the same thing if he were my son."
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even if he'd allegedly molested some of my other kids.

i'm not calling the police on my son. period. i'm not about to hand over my little BLACK boy to the criminal justice system.

not in a case like this.

but this dude is white...and if i were a white father of a white son i'd also not hand him over to the criminal justice system. not when i know how badly the CJS mistreats juveniles. not when i know that most survivors/victims don't feel vindicated by the CJS's handling of these kinds of cases. i would've done everything i could to find some solution outside the CJS. so i'm not 'mad' at the Duggars for handling the situation that way.

fuck you.

  

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70. "Yeah that's not better"
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One accusation I can kinda see you doubt

5 separate little girls including your own daughter(s)

Nooenopenope
Hell the fuck no
Your ass GOTS to GO


Btw I give a DAMN fuck if that teen is black
That little sick boy
NO
Btw I had family mad at my mom for decades on that specific crap
When my dad beat her and she called the police
Fuck and that
Do t want the cops called?
Don't have your evil ass son committing atrocities
Nopenopenope
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71. "cool."
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fuck you.

  

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72. "Actually that shit ain't cool"
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You really really need to rethink that
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73. "naw."
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i would've agreed w/you before i spent 5 yrs working as a criminal defense attorney. but now w/the exposure i've had to the CJS...no way i'd hand my kid over to the police in this case. i'd probably have done whatever possible to keep my kid out of the CJS - by any means necessary.

and yes, i'd be concerned for my other kids mental and physical well-being. i wouldn't be convinced that handing my son over to the police would be the best outcome for my other kids either. not in a case like this.

so i get what these parents did and i'm not 'mad' about it. my 'outrage' is limited to the hypocritical statements they've made knowing the secrets they held.

fuck you.

  

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77. "i understand you"
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ive heard stories where
kids get sent away
and come back even more messed up

like in those group homes

its one of the situations that seem one sided
we dont know what they did in regards to their girls
we only hear the one side of the story

its horrible
and it happens to a lot of families

he did this at 14
and it seems like (from what is being reported)
that he told on himself asking for help

like i said
its such a touchy (no pun intended) situation

i hope and pray that he is better
and he got the help he needed
and so did those girls involved

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79. "it would've torn me up inside!"
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having to figure out how to balance what's best for my boy w/what's best for my girls.

and i too have heard horror stories from kids who've been involved in the CJS - too many to hand one of mine over to them. not if there's ANYTHING else i could do. i'd do anything to keep my boy out of the CJS. anything.

but i'd also want to protect my daughters from their attacker - not that handing the boy to the police would accomplish that.

i dunno. beyond not giving the boy to the cops i dunno what i'd have done and i'm not saying i agree w/everything this family did. but i agree w/the decision to shield the boy from the CJS.

fuck you.

  

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80. "Nah you sound like the duggars "
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>i would've agreed w/you before i spent 5 yrs working as a
>criminal defense attorney. but now w/the exposure i've had to
>the CJS...no way i'd hand my kid over to the police in this
>case. i'd probably have done whatever possible to keep my kid
>out of the CJS - by any means necessary.
>
>and yes, i'd be concerned for my other kids mental and
>physical well-being. i wouldn't be convinced that handing my
>son over to the police would be the best outcome for my other
>kids either. not in a case like this.


Not if you keep that teen in the same household and near other children
That's a predator at that point
I question your priorities immensely

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81. "*shrug*"
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fuck you.

  

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85. "i would keep him out of the CJS but i damn sure would keep him out my ho..."
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if i had a choice btwn my house and the CJS, it would be CJS all the way.

no fucking way i would have him around my daughters.

while i can agree with not getting the law involved, that they NEVER got legit counseling for their son means they took this shit way to lightly and all their other decisions are questionable. fuck them.

  

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86. "i say 'fuck them' too"
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but i agree w/them not calling the police on their son.

fuck you.

  

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91. "I can see not turning your child into the police too"
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but not getting your children some real counseling is what really bugs me. Taking them to the church where he can just ask for forgiveness and they can learn to forgive is bull shit. Take them to a professional and help him understand what the fuck he was doing. Make sure those girls are really okay and not just forgiving because their religion says they should.

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92. "agreed."
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fuck you.

  

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96. "because folks think they are counselors"
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and all this shit needs is a damn bandaid
because miraculously THEY know how to solve this
and thats by protecting the predator instead of the actual victims


and folks wonder how this shit perpetuates??
this is exactly how
thinking they can 'fix' this
you cannot 'fix' this
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67. "keyword: son"
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>and their daughters?

"son"

>and/or 19 other kids?

"son"

fuck you.

  

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74. "RE: keyword: 19 kids"
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you're taking a very hard stance against police involvement

got it.

the issue with your reply and stance

is that it sounds like you are co-signing doing nothing

which is what it sounds like they did

a stern lecture and physical labor

which, from my life experience, equates to a day doing yard work with my dad

and I've never been accused of a felony

that punishment = normal everyday life for most of us

to clarify

you're okay with doing what equated to nothing?

you're okay with the son remaining in the household?

you're okay with the son remaining in the household with 19 kids and counting?

you're okay with the daughters being subjected to continued molestation?

you're okay with the victims never getting counseling?

there's alot of wrong in how this was handled

cool, you don't want police involved

but co-signing how they decided to handle it

nah, that's some bull$hit.

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75. "*pats head*"
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in my initial reply i said i thought the family did right by their SON. i didn't mention the other kids.

but now i'll talk about them b/c in your passive-aggressive way you seem to be asking for my opinion about how they handled the case in relation to their other kids.

i dunno enough about what they did w/the other kids to have a strong opinion there.

as for the rest of this:

>the issue with your reply and stance
>
>is that it sounds like you are co-signing doing nothing
>
>which is what it sounds like they did

i don't get the impression the family did 'nothing'. the little i've read about the case indicated the parents sought counseling for the girls who'd been harmed and they also sent the boy away for a time to do some physical labor that resembled community service. he may also have been sent for some treatment or counseling.

>you're okay with doing what equated to nothing?

again, based on the little i've read i don't agree they did 'nothing'.
w/o regard for what they actually did i agree w/their decision to shield their boy from the criminal justice system. maybe they should've done more than what they actually did but i have no problem w/them not handing the boy over to the police.

>you're okay with the son remaining in the household?

i dunno b/c i don't know that boy nor do i know what he's accused of having done nor do i know whether he was evaluated by a professional who is qualified to render an opinion as to his risk of recidivism.

>you're okay with the son remaining in the household with 19
>kids and counting?

i dunno.

>you're okay with the daughters being subjected to continued
>molestation?

i dunno that they were so subjected. i dunno that handing the boy over to the police would've meant the daughters weren't subjected to continued molestation.

>you're okay with the victims never getting counseling?

i dunno that they didn't. i dunno that they would've had the family handed the boy over the police.

>there's alot of wrong in how this was handled

maybe there is. i dunno.

>cool, you don't want police involved
>
>but co-signing how they decided to handle it
>
>nah, that's some bull$hit.

one more time - i think the Duggars did right by their ********SON********* by not handing him over to the police. you read way more into that statement than what i actually said.

fuck you.

  

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76. "RE: the Duggars did right by themselves."
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"what he's accused of having done"

he's accused of molesting his sisters

one being as young as 5 at the time

now that you're caught up

congrats on being a lawyer.

passive agressive = you not answering the questions IRT the context the incident happened

your answer is understandable if he's your only child

but your continued stance that you would have done the same thing

based on the context of 19 kids and counting, 4 victims (allegedly) being your children also and in the same house

yeah, that's some bull$hit.

are you catholic?

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78. "LOL"
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i have no problem w/the family not handing their boy over to the police.

if he were my son i'd have done the same thing.

fuck you.

  

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82. "what would you do if this was your son?"
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no snark, i actually wanna know.

If you're innocent, be cool.
Only the guilty's catchin' offence.

  

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87. "LOL"
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fuck you.

  

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83. "=/="
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it's a false equivalency, IMO

saying you wouldn't hand your son over to the police

is NOT the same as saying you would do the same thing as the Duggars

especially considering the context in which the Duggars are operating

c'mon

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88. "sweetie, read what i type and don't add anything to it."
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>it's a false equivalency, IMO
>
>saying you wouldn't hand your son over to the police
>
>is NOT the same as saying you would do the same thing as the
>Duggars

you are correct. and i DID NOT SAY that i would do the same as the Duggars as related to the entirety of the facts of this case.

i have said REPEATEDLY that i agree w/their decision not to hand their boy over to the police. i have said i dunno that i agree w/anything else they did in this case.

one more time - i agree w/the Duggars not handing their boy over to the police in this case. as for the rest i dunno what else they did and so i have no opinion on that.

fuck you.

  

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95. "Sowhat is 100% correct"
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This happens in a lot of families.. yall can act like it doesn't but I'm sure each one of us has someone in our extended fam who has a story that sounds similar.

You don't call police.


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97. "RE: Sowhat is 100% correct"
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>This happens in a lot of families.. yall can act like it
>doesn't but I'm sure each one of us has someone in our
>extended fam who has a story that sounds similar.
>
>You don't call police.


Generally, SoWhat is correct.....But not to the specifics of the Duggar case.....

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100. "kill de white ppl!"
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kill 'em dead!

fuck all the breeders in the eye w/hot pokers!!!

i would not turn my boy over to the police if i were in the Duggar parents' position.

fuck you.

  

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104. "RE: kill de white ppl!"
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Come on homie....U know I'm not about that mindless race-in-everything shit...lol

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99. "cant we get our Frankenstein villagers with torches on?"
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>This happens in a lot of families.. yall can act like it
>doesn't but I'm sure each one of us has someone in our
>extended fam who has a story that sounds similar.
>
>You don't call police.
>
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101. "IKR... I bet everyone on here knows about a family member "
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who did something that is call the cop worthy... but we don't.

Cause it's family business.

Black people know good and damn well we keep SECRETS!!!

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102. "oh, my stance isn't about any desire to keep fam biz secret."
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it's literally about my desire to protect my family from the police at all costs.

if the CJS were better equipped to deal w/juveniles and sex abuse cases (and young black boys) i'd not take such a hard line stance against calling the police on my boy in a case like this one.

i wouldn't call the police but i also wouldn't necessarily keep the incidents in the family. i wouldn't sweep the incidents under the rug.

and i will say ONE MORE FUCKING TIME that i don't necessarily agree w/anything else the Duggars did in this case. i just like that they didn't hand the boy over to the police.

fuck you.

  

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105. "So you ship them off so they can molest other people's children"
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Just not your children. Every child molester is someone's child.

Question... After the 2nd child is molested do you make him turn himself into the police?
The 3rd...
The 4th...
The 5th...
How many children does your child get to wreck for before the molestation rises to the level of a crime where you'd turn your child into the police.

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107. "I wouldn't hand my kid over to the poilce in any of those situations."
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fuck you.

  

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113. "just curious, how far would you let your son go"
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before you got the police involved? molesting five little girls isn't enough. what if he molested ten? what if he raped them? just wondering where your line is when it comes to protecting your son from the consequences of his actions-- how far it would have to go and how many victims.

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69. "RE: Duggar Update: Show pulled from lineup"
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So they got Josh "help" (questionable at best). But what about the girls? Are they supposed to just believe it's their fault that Josh was enticed by them?! Where is their therapy? Where is there help?!

This is just sad.

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90. "Yeah i figure it's the same type of therapy to cure the gay"
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In their world it seems to be looked at in the same light, as in this was just a matter of him needing to be taught between right and wrong.

But as you said, there are victims involved here, and what about them?

  

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93. "Drugger daddy says incest should be treated as capital crime"
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In other words, put to DEATH!!!!

Cotdaaaayum the hypocrisy runs deep in these fools...

http://www.mediaite.com/online/duggar-patriarch-ran-for-senate-saying-people-should-die-for-committing-incest/


When In Touch broke the news that reality star Josh Duggar was arrested as a teenager for sexually assaulting his sisters, his parents quickly rose to his defense. “Even though we would never choose to go through something so terrible, each one of our family members drew closer to God,” Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar said in a joint statement. “We pray that as people watch our lives they see that we are not a perfect family.”

But did you know that before he was the star of 19 Kids and Counting, Jim Bob was a somewhat prominent political figure in Arkansas, serving as a member of the state’s House of Representatives? Gawker remembered. Gawker also remembered that he ran for U.S. Senate in 2002, losing in the GOP primary to then-incumbent Sen. Tim Hutchinson. They discovered Duggar’s cached campaign page from the time, which says the following:

Q. What is your abortion position, and specifically, where do you stand on rape, incest, and threat to the mother’s health?

A. If a woman is raped, the rapist should be executed instead of the innocent unborn baby. Adoption is an option. Many couples would love to adopt and are waiting for a baby. Abortion has been and always will be the destruction of an innocent child. Rape and incest represent heinous crimes and as such should be treated as capital crimes. The developing infant committed no crime and should be allowed to live. In the unlikely event that the life of both mother and baby would both be lost (for example, a tubal pregnancy) all should be done to save the life of the mother.

Sorry, could you repeat that part again?

Rape and incest represent heinous crimes and as such should be treated as capital crimes.

Josh Duggar, who resigned his position at the pro-life Family Research Council as a result of the revelations, is currently very much alive and not on death row.

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94. "That shoe starting to drop. Advertisers dropping out....."
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Washington Post reporting....General Mills, Choice Hotels, and Payless are pulling their money from the 19 Kids And Counting show....The dominoes are falling.....

Link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/05/26/advertisers-flee-19-kids-and-counting-in-wake-of-josh-duggar-scandal/

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103. "RE: That shoe starting to drop. Advertisers dropping out....."
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As always when skeletons exit the closet.

I didn't watch any season of the show but what gets me is how brainwashed people in any religious sect can be to sordid behavior under the guise of their leader, etc. telling them that it is normal. This is one of many issues I have with organized religion.

Also the girls being told that what happened to them is their fault reeks of misogyny.

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106. "Command + F .. Type in "Case_One"... Yup.. Never fails."
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109. "RE: Command + F .. Type in "Case_One"... Yup.. Never fails."
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daaayum dog, you late.. what took you so long ? HAHAH...

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108. "So the state trooper they originally reported it to is also a molester?"
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Dude did 3 years for kiddie porn. now he's locked up again.. for kiddie porn. it's weird he's even trying to weigh in on this other than maybe he thinks he can shave some of his own time

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/05/27/pedophile-ex-state-trooper-jim-bob-duggar-lied-said-josh-only-molested-one-kid/

  

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110. "whut? tell me this didnt happen"
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111. "forgive the 14 yr old cracka molester, kill 12 yr old black kid"
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112. "This is so Duck Dynasty-ish. WTF did people expect?"
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A dude named Jim Bob had 19 kids. I'd have been more shocked if there wasn't some molestation going on.

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