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double negative
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"Drake is less of a man because...."


  

          

This is something that was brought to my attention and I'm still chewing on the concept but


The basic idea is that Drake is seen as a soft rapper because he does not take the beaten and traditional misogynistic path observed in major parts of contemporary hip hop

I don't know enough Drake discography to know or not know every instance where he has or has not referred to women as "ho" or "bitch" or references degrading acts.


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Drake is that nigga.
May 21st 2015
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lolz
May 21st 2015
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Unless he's hungry.
May 21st 2015
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      or horny
May 21st 2015
11
Nah, he's said "degrading things" a million times
May 21st 2015
2
thats as a general term tho.
May 21st 2015
13
so because niggas use the term generally its not derogatory? lol
May 21st 2015
16
Do you holla at women using these terms?
May 21st 2015
19
And this is one the many things I hate about Drake.
May 21st 2015
20
RE: Drake is less of a man because....
May 21st 2015
3
....he's Drake.
May 21st 2015
5
RE: Drake is less of a man because....
May 21st 2015
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He's just as misogynistic as the rest
May 21st 2015
7
have you listened to his lyrics?
May 21st 2015
9
Nah, it's woe is a rich rapper act
May 21st 2015
10
you've OBVIOUSLY never listened to Drake fam. lol...like...at ALL
May 21st 2015
12
more on the stereotype please
May 21st 2015
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      I don't perpetuate fallacy... but...see post 15
May 21st 2015
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Drake is less of a man because....Marvin's Room
May 21st 2015
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RE: Drake is less of a man because....
May 21st 2015
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SimplyHannah
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1. "Drake is that nigga."
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Period.

  

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Cenario
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4. "lolz"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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Cold Truth
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8. "Unless he's hungry."
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Cenario
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11. "or horny"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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-DJ R-Tistic-
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2. "Nah, he's said "degrading things" a million times"
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>The basic idea is that Drake is seen as a soft rapper because
>he does not take the beaten and traditional misogynistic path
>observed in major parts of contemporary hip hop
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>I don't know enough Drake discography to know or not know
>every instance where he has or has not referred to women as
>"ho" or "bitch" or references degrading acts.

"Long as my bitches love me"

"Me, my niggas, and some Madonna hoes"

"Now we just fucking all the bitches they warned us about"

Plenty other references, but yea.

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BrooklynWHAT
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Thu May-21-15 11:29 AM

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13. "thats as a general term tho. "
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like if we want to be PC then it's derogatory. but in the streets that everyday.

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SHAstayhighalways
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Thu May-21-15 11:35 AM

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16. "so because niggas use the term generally its not derogatory? lol"
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i beg to differ.

and this is coming from somebody who uses the terms bitches and niggas very liberally.

www.royallegacy.org

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Boogie Stimuli
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19. "Do you holla at women using these terms?"
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"OH don't trip, bitch, it's just a general term I use for hoes everywhere."

Unless u a pimp, I don't really see this going over very well.

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Hitokiri
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20. "And this is one the many things I hate about Drake."
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He is just as demeaning to women as any other rapper, but, he gets thought of a ladies' rapper. From men and women.

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"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."

  

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DaHeathenOne76
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3. "RE: Drake is less of a man because...."
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She the type to suck you dry and then eat lunch with you

I hate callin’ the women bitches, but the bitches love it. I took some sense and made a nickel of it.


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Cenario
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5. "....he's Drake."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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boombapdame
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6. "RE: Drake is less of a man because...."
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I hate when cats say so-and-so male artist is less manly because said artist caters to the ladies with their sensitivity (or lack thereof as there are women who see sensitive men through the same lens men see sensitive men which is soft and in the case of women feeling as such it speaks to the idea of real men behaving as domineering and misogynistic/sexist as it is society's definition of heternormative gender roles for men).

"If one forces the process, it comes out fake. And to me there's nothing worse than being fake." - Heavy D

  

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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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Thu May-21-15 11:12 AM

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7. "He's just as misogynistic as the rest"
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Not sure about the less of a man thing but he seems corny and a tad bit too sensitive IMO. Makes good music though.

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SHAstayhighalways
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9. "have you listened to his lyrics?"
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he emotes more than the average rapper but he's no less misogynistic.

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For Real (Official Video):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBRoCPO8esE

  

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spades
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10. "Nah, it's woe is a rich rapper act "
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He borders on maudlin at times. He got bars, but his content can be a little annoying.

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FLUIDJ
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Thu May-21-15 11:27 AM

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12. "you've OBVIOUSLY never listened to Drake fam. lol...like...at ALL"
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LOL...
Dude is the GrimyLightSkinDude prototype if there ever was one! And keep in mind...i'm a light skinned dude and I detest that stereotype....but he embodies it...


"Seasons may come and your luck just may run out, and all that you'll have is some memories..."

  

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14. "more on the stereotype please"
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FLUIDJ
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17. "I don't perpetuate fallacy... but...see post 15"
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Thu May-21-15 11:39 AM by FLUIDJ

  

          

"Seasons may come and your luck just may run out, and all that you'll have is some memories..."

  

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Big Kuntry
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15. "Drake is less of a man because....Marvin's Room"
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I hate everything that song stands for. If it is real, dude deserves a beatdown!

Then ol girl should catch that work for answering the phone.

  

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murph71
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Thu May-21-15 11:46 AM

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18. "RE: Drake is less of a man because...."
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Thu May-21-15 11:49 AM by murph71

          

>This is something that was brought to my attention and I'm
>still chewing on the concept but
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>The basic idea is that Drake is seen as a soft rapper because
>he does not take the beaten and traditional misogynistic path
>observed in major parts of contemporary hip hop



This ^^^ is not why Drake is seen as a soft rapper...While I agree that the whole Drake Soft angle at times goes over board, the side-eye for Drake is a lot more complex than dude not saying the word bitch in ever other verse...The irony is he drops "hoes" and "bitches" as much as a lot of his peers....

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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