Ted Gee Seal Member since Apr 18th 2007 10091 posts
Thu Apr-30-15 02:11 AM
7. "2PAB is my once in a decade album" In response to Reply # 0
Dr Claw was speaking my mind when he said we're so lucky right now with the material that is dropping. To have both at the same time and that Earl Sweatshirt is really a luxury.
But I get about one album in every round decade that hits me as much as 2PAB.
Discussions of <>= do not matter to me in music like that. I just care about what I like, not what's objectively better.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79559 posts
Thu Apr-30-15 07:22 AM
13. "yup... but not by much" In response to Reply # 0
2 great albums
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14. "Lupe a better rappity rapper but does not make better songs AKA hell naw" In response to Reply # 0 Thu Apr-30-15 07:36 AM by Boogie Stimuli
He hits the mark sometimes, but fails most of the time. T&Y is no exception. Also the musical landscape of TPAB>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(to infinity) T&Y
The make up and DNA of TPAB >>> T&Y in every way. The only place Lupe wins is rappity rapping. He might as well be a glorified battle rapper. Yet, he's too poetic and goes over too many heads with layered punchlines to win in that arena. I definitely think he's in a class of his own as far as rapping, but he ain't seeing Kendrick because he's incapable of connecting like that. He just goes for amazing you from his cloud. Even if you love him you know that's true, lol.
But I know this is OKP. If TPAB got no shine and wasn't the critical darling and big seller that it is, yal niggas would swear it's the best thing since gluten free bread. Just admit it... it's the best Hip Hop album in a looooong time.
15. "I'm honestly asking this, because I don't know..." In response to Reply # 14
you have listened to T & Y thoroughly? Cuz, I wouldn't classify what Lupe is doing on there as "rappity rap". I understand, though, that we could have different definitions of that term.
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22. "Most definitely. I'm a Lupe fan." In response to Reply # 15
A pretty big one actually. I describe him as one of the few professional rappers to ever rap, so I try to listen to everything he does. That said, the most praised song on there (Mural) is the definition of rappity rap. I fux with Lupe's rappity rap due to the fact that it's actually about something.
34. "lol...okay, that's peace..." In response to Reply # 22
see, I make the distinction of rappity rap to if a cat is just rhyming tight but it aint about shit. Like...some Eminem battle rap battle shit. But, I feel you, overall.
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79559 posts
Thu Apr-30-15 08:25 AM
21. "I just think T&Y is a better album" In response to Reply # 14
it has nothing to do with KL's popularity or Lupes rappity raps.
pound for pound, track for track, T&Y is better.
but I also think GKMC is better than TPAB
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
16. "I agree but its no landslide victory" In response to Reply # 0
For me it comes down to lyrics production and replay value
Both are masterpieces but I have to say that the production on TPAB is more my lane its almost too good. When I hear that album I always end up thinking, Can I Get an Instru Album pleeeease. It detracts from Kendricks performance a bit.
Both are great lyricists but Lupe is in another a galaxy. I know to each his own but for me if Im not hearing anything new on each listen I lose interest, quickly. With Tetsuo there are some songs where Lupe is rapping about multiple subjects all at the same time. Lupe mastery of language and lyricism is unparalleled period. With Kendrick I was drawn in on the first spin but at this point Im left wanting more, not say that I wont revisit at some point.
The replay value for me goes to Tetsuo and thats primarily based on account of Lupes abilities. I feel like if I had a TPAB inst album Im pretty sure that I would play that more than the album itself.
But really we should be happy we have two masterpiece albums that are speaking to the socially relevant issues. Hopefully this is a trend that gathers steam among even the most commercially viable Black artists
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79559 posts
Thu Apr-30-15 08:27 AM
23. "true, but the question is album vs album" In response to Reply # 20
Lupe is definitely more annoying in interviews
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45. "Oh...you want reasons, huh?" In response to Reply # 32
Okay....start with the only listenable song on Tetsuo and Youth is the 1st song with the Cortex Bleu sample.
The rest of that shit is sad, emo bullshit. AND I'M FROM CHICAGO
Trust me, I went into that shit wanting it to be the greatest album ever. I even listened to the 1st 6 tracks (which went progressively downhill) before I completely wrote the nigga off. That's how strong the opener is.
But let's be real...in concept...in execution....in track choice...in features and collaborators.....it is SEVERELY inferior to To Pimp A Butterfly....
You are entitled to your opinion on the shit...but just be sure that the only people you'll be able to debate and fellowship with about how much doper Tetsuo & Youth are will be fellow members of this site.
36. "RE: you're comparing an art exhibit to a novel." In response to Reply # 28
>one is a great collection of visualizations. > >the other is a great narrative about a relevant coming of rage >story. > >to each his own, and though I see both as masterpieces, I give >Kendrick the nod because to me what he did was much harder to >achieve. > >and I say this saying after hearing T&Y that there was NO way >Kendrick was going to top it....and then he did. > >
This is me all the way. I said nobody would top T&Y this year. Then BAM! TPAB gets the nod. I love both albums though.
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>one is a great collection of visualizations. > >the other is a great narrative about a relevant coming of rage >story. > >to each his own, and though I see both as masterpieces, I give >Kendrick the nod because to me what he did was much harder to >achieve. > >and I say this saying after hearing T&Y that there was NO way >Kendrick was going to top it....and then he did.
I think Kendrick had a heavier task to endure. I don't know if it's harder to come with a great album after dropping some doo-doo, or dropping a classic. Kendrick is in the latter category, and I honestly wasn't really hype about the material leading into it. on "release" day, I decided to check it out, and Wee Bey face all the way.
that album was so good it had me pulling out all of Kendrick's back catalog.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79559 posts
Thu Apr-30-15 09:38 AM
44. "Pizza man dont come round here no mo!!!" In response to Reply # 41
I thought it said Pussy man at first.
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79559 posts
Thu Apr-30-15 11:56 AM
50. "those words are much closer than jeans/face" In response to Reply # 46
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
49. "That hook intrigues me...it works on a couple levels" In response to Reply # 44 Thu Apr-30-15 11:38 AM by Overqualified
As a warning and as a lament. Interesting how small things some communities take for granted, like getting a pizza delivered, are off limits to others. Shines an even greater light on the big things (education, healthcare, economic opportunity).
48. "Lupe greatly surpassed people's expectations..." In response to Reply # 0
He gave his fans, and some who stopped following him, the album they've been waiting for (from him)... and Murals
With that being said, I think Kendrick's project as a whole is better... The narrative along with parallel stories, relevance and overall sound (Jazz/funk) has made this one of his best projects (if not, the best)... Definitely better than GKMC...
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