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Lardlad95
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"Poll question: Is there ever a reason to riot?"


  

          

I'm not gonna lie, I'm not mad at the rioters. I'm not saying I full out endorse what they're doing, but Americans seem to forget that our nation was founded by a bunch of white guys who destroyed and stole property not only from its original owners, but also from their fellow white people.


Americans are being executed by cops, corporations have been lying in bed with big government for so long that our middle class is turning into a fucking joke, workers are being pushed harder for less money and fewer benefits....and all any of us want to do is watch reality TV and play on our phones...

I don't know...I think Americans are due for a pretty big wake up call.

Poll result (32 votes)
Yes (26 votes)Vote
No (6 votes)Vote

  

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Riot? No. Revolt? Yes.
Apr 28th 2015
1
A bunch of white militia men made the US GOVT. back down.
Apr 28th 2015
2
link?
Apr 28th 2015
7
Here you go...
Apr 28th 2015
11
yo, that footage is wild nm
Apr 28th 2015
33
Vice had an episode on that.. (link)
Apr 28th 2015
48
Burning wig stores might make the police behave.
Apr 28th 2015
8
I'm glad you want to die in the same world your were born into
Apr 28th 2015
10
      In this forum? Lol
Apr 28th 2015
14
           ^
Apr 28th 2015
31
           RE: In this forum? Lol
Apr 28th 2015
38
           ^^^the only reasonable way to see it nm.
Apr 29th 2015
108
they actually stood for something other than looting CVS tho... lol
Apr 28th 2015
41
      You think every rabble rouser in Boston was reading Patrick Henry?
Apr 28th 2015
43
           Right? As if most were even that literate then.
Apr 28th 2015
47
           Niggas really think all that expensive ass tea went into the river...
Apr 28th 2015
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                lol
Apr 29th 2015
111
riots do turn into revolt
Apr 28th 2015
37
      1. this ain't a revolution.
Apr 28th 2015
49
'there's a war going on'
Apr 28th 2015
3
The fact that these people loot is one of the reason we need
Apr 28th 2015
6
they don't hear you tho...
Apr 28th 2015
21
Looting is a part of war however
Apr 28th 2015
17
      Maybe they should just loot Artifacts like the Brits did.
Apr 28th 2015
18
man...... for the kind of revolution some folks think we need
Apr 28th 2015
4
No, we just need an organization of militias.
Apr 28th 2015
5
Organized violence is always the answer.
Apr 28th 2015
9
Once shit gets organized? Why not organize yourself?
Apr 28th 2015
12
I changed my thought. It's not worth fighting these people
Apr 28th 2015
15
this kinda hurts
Apr 28th 2015
99
you sayin alot in here...
Apr 28th 2015
13
RE: you sayin alot in here...
Apr 28th 2015
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Yes, there is.
Apr 28th 2015
19
Revolution >>>> Riots
Apr 28th 2015
20
Arguing semantics doesnt change things either n/m
Apr 28th 2015
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It's not semantics, it's about a mindset and goals.
Apr 28th 2015
26
Fighting the System vs Robbing Aunt Bev. Semantics
Apr 28th 2015
54
Not according to history.
Apr 28th 2015
101
FREDDIE GRAY
Apr 28th 2015
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So egregious.
Apr 28th 2015
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      RE: So egregious.
Apr 28th 2015
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      they been doin this shit for years ...and now we here
Apr 28th 2015
34
YES - whenever there is a major sports victory or defeat.
Apr 28th 2015
24
You're right. White Folks are justified and it's just as crazy.
Apr 28th 2015
27
Or when a white woman lies about being raped by a black man
Apr 28th 2015
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No justice, no peace.
Apr 28th 2015
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But 'No Peace' doesn't mean rioting.
Apr 28th 2015
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yes their are plenty of reasons but what good does it ever accomplish
Apr 28th 2015
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yes. and i dont understand the people who say it doesnt accomplish anyth...
Apr 28th 2015
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RE: yes. and i dont understand the people who say it doesnt accomplish a...
Apr 28th 2015
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i asked specifically what rioting has accomplished for Blacks.
Apr 28th 2015
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rioting in LA got a new police chief, more community policing
Apr 28th 2015
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oh okay.
Apr 28th 2015
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lets not quickly dismiss ferguson too quickly either
Apr 28th 2015
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      i'm not about to connect any of that to the burning and looting though.
Apr 28th 2015
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           sure
Apr 28th 2015
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only because i lived in the aftermath for two decades
Apr 28th 2015
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Successful wars are fought on multiple fronts. Some march, some riot.
Apr 28th 2015
36
Whites would riot if Time Warner Cable went down during Mad Men.
Apr 28th 2015
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Reasons to riot:
Apr 28th 2015
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damn
Apr 28th 2015
45
Savages? Guess it takes one to know one.
Apr 28th 2015
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Oh come on, did I really have to type the quotes? Context was obvious.
Apr 28th 2015
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      You gotta put savages in quotes next time, but my bad.
Apr 28th 2015
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           k
Apr 28th 2015
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We're N-I-N-E months into this news cycle of police brutality
Apr 28th 2015
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      thing is...the cops dont believe in their own system
Apr 28th 2015
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      Yup
Apr 28th 2015
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      RE: thing is...the cops dont believe in their own system
Apr 28th 2015
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      This IS their system
Apr 28th 2015
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      RE: We're N-I-N-E months into this news cycle of police brutality
Apr 28th 2015
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      It won't. And it's wrong. But lets not act like its not a natural progre...
Apr 28th 2015
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           Arresting folks on less than probable cause (maybe) just to calm the com...
Apr 28th 2015
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                two weeks to explain a 30 minute window
Apr 28th 2015
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                     probably.
Apr 28th 2015
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      I think the city was actually pretty responsive to protests
Apr 28th 2015
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           Interesting.
Apr 28th 2015
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Of course
Apr 28th 2015
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if i'm being honest...no
Apr 28th 2015
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riots aren't planned. riots are forces of nature. riots just happen
Apr 28th 2015
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agreed.
Apr 28th 2015
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it just happens
Apr 28th 2015
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i never like the riot gear worn to peaceful protest
Apr 28th 2015
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      catch 22 (kinda)
Apr 28th 2015
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      they just break out WHEN people get angry enough
Apr 28th 2015
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           yup.
Apr 28th 2015
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truth
Apr 28th 2015
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well said.
Apr 28th 2015
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SoWhat is smarter than all of us. His answers are the truth
Apr 28th 2015
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. . .
Apr 28th 2015
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      you are the truth and the light
Apr 28th 2015
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           ...and my dick is big too.
Apr 28th 2015
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                incredible, even better
Apr 28th 2015
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                     . . .
Apr 28th 2015
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                          amen
Apr 28th 2015
90
Are they rioting in rich part of town or in the hood?
Apr 28th 2015
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Were they burning Africans or Afrikaners?
Apr 28th 2015
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Yeah - if you want to destroy things.
Apr 28th 2015
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The revolution isn't a one time 'spring' of violence
Apr 28th 2015
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i agree 100%.
Apr 28th 2015
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sometimes punching a wall feels like your only outlet
Apr 28th 2015
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Or leaving ones toxic environment
Apr 28th 2015
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well said.
Apr 28th 2015
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No! But I understand and I empathize with the marginalized
Apr 28th 2015
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We might fight amongst each other... but I promise you this:
Apr 28th 2015
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if Pac said it, it must be a good idea
Apr 28th 2015
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If you black in Amerikka is there ever a reason not to?
Apr 28th 2015
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being really fucking pissed off is the only reason
Apr 28th 2015
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There's a reason to push an old man down the stairs........
Apr 28th 2015
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^^^two-handed putback slam
Apr 29th 2015
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Bruh. C'mon, bruh.
Apr 29th 2015
110

SoWhat
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1. "Riot? No. Revolt? Yes."
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Don't pull the thang out unless you plan to bang! (C)

Did we decide who is picking up our SCUD missiles from Walmart layaway?

fuck you.

  

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Lardlad95
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2. "A bunch of white militia men made the US GOVT. back down."
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Tue Apr-28-15 07:05 AM by Lardlad95

  

          

Why shouldn't black people exercise those same rights?

Now, that isn't rioting. But violence, or rather the threat of violence has been used, very recently, by white people for something much less important than what we're talking about.

This rioting isn't the way to go, but it is indicative of the level of anger going on, opportunists aside.

"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard

  

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7. "link?"
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am I the only one unclear on what you're referring to?

  

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Lardlad95
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11. "Here you go..."
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http://www.guns.com/2014/04/14/moment-feds-back-nevada-ranchers-bundy-cattle-standoff-video/


"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard

  

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33. "yo, that footage is wild nm"
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48. "Vice had an episode on that.. (link)"
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http://www.hbo.com/vice#/vice/episodes/3/03-we-the-people-and-end-of-the-line/synopsis.html

  

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8. "Burning wig stores might make the police behave."
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>Why shouldn't black people exercise those same rights?

Oh sure. Goose/gander. Right. The police will stop shooting unarmed Blacks bc the police are prejudiced against us where they assume we are prone to violence bc we burned a few liquor stores and burglarized some supermarkets. Yes. I see the righteousness.

>Now, that isn't rioting. But violence, or rather the threat of
>violence has been used, very recently, by white people for
>something much less important than what we're talking about.

Yes. And so we should do the same, of course. We should not only threaten to but we should actually burn holes about which white ppl don't give a shit to force the police to police those same areas justly. I am so convinced now that I'm ready to steal myself a TV. In the name of Justice.

>This rioting isn't the way to go, but it is indicative of the
>level of anger going on, opportunists aside

So I cant haz a TV?

fuck you.

  

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Lardlad95
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10. "I'm glad you want to die in the same world your were born into"
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Tue Apr-28-15 07:23 AM by Lardlad95

  

          

old man.

Go make your money and snark on the internet.

Or, why don't you be serious for once on here and offer your prescriptions, because you do a lot of sniping, and very little proposing.

n/m

"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard

  

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14. "In this forum? Lol"
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Tue Apr-28-15 07:44 AM by SoWhat

  

          

Anyway, I've said HERE b4 that real police reform will come from within. When good police feel empowered to call out their bad brethren and sistren bc they know the ills will be addressed without payback we will see more bad cops called out. Generally the police need to be held accountable - by other police and the courts, of course. I agree that special prosecutors are needed - not just standard issue federal prosecutors but prosecutors who have never been police. Let formER cops act as defense attorneys if needed but NOT prosecutors who go target police. Bc they will probably be too likely to identify and side with police defendants.

So there's a proposal, youngblood. Sorry I'm not as filled with misdirected rage as you want me to be. Sorry I'm not a nihilist or anarchist or a revolutionary. You'll live.

fuck you.

  

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31. "^"
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38. "RE: In this forum? Lol"
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^^^^^^^


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108. "^^^the only reasonable way to see it nm. "
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41. "they actually stood for something other than looting CVS tho... lol"
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dem ngaz in the streets destroying property and looting stores don't stand for shit other than mayhem and a quick come up..

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43. "You think every rabble rouser in Boston was reading Patrick Henry? "
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47. "Right? As if most were even that literate then."
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80. "Niggas really think all that expensive ass tea went into the river..."
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and not into somebody's pockets. Lol
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111. "lol"
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prototype

stand ur ground, believe in urself,
believe in love, prepare urself for love, remove the negativity from ur life, and accept the love u kno u deserve

  

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37. "riots do turn into revolt"
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its a thin line


and has always been, historically
not sure why you are being so dismissive
tiannamen square isnt the only riot that we should recall

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49. "1. this ain't a revolution."
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2. i don't support revolution.

fuck you.

  

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3. "'there's a war going on'"
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war is not something easily contained in a box and wrapped up in a
neat little bow. the looting does nothing, only makes it worse.
is looting apart of rioting? doesn't have to be.

  

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6. "The fact that these people loot is one of the reason we need "
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a revolution. We've turned generation after generation into mindless consumers. The fact that someone values an XBOX more than their liberty is a problem, and this culture has created a bunch of these people.


"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard

  

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21. "they don't hear you tho..."
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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17. "Looting is a part of war however"
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Lots of Lugers and katanas floating around this country. Lol-- you think they burned ALL the tea in Boston?

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18. "Maybe they should just loot Artifacts like the Brits did. "
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"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard

  

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4. "man...... for the kind of revolution some folks think we need"
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we'd have to be able to mobilize

communicate independently

and prolly pull in outside help

but I'mma stop there


cuz if I really think about this, they might start following me forreal


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5. "No, we just need an organization of militias. "
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Nothing has stopped people out west from arming up and letting the Govt. know how much they believe in the second amendment.


"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard

  

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9. "Organized violence is always the answer."
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I'm thoroughly convinced that it's the only way to get things done. One must execute violence, endure violence, or both if one wishes to impact entire populations for purposes of social order, change, revolution, etc.

Personally though-- I don't think black folks need to be fighting anyone in this country for anything. Let the whites have it and the repercussions for their past transgressions, let the violent racism fall on another group, and let our African ancestors rest by fulfilling their dream of being anywhere but here.



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12. "Once shit gets organized? Why not organize yourself? "
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"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard

  

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15. "I changed my thought. It's not worth fighting these people"
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Tue Apr-28-15 07:30 AM by Atillah Moor

  

          

They are not worth it nor their society. Enough black lives have been lost and to put more on the line to basically fight the western world/society-- well now's not the time.That's really where my hearts at.

But to answer your question I don't organize anything myself because I feel I'm out of touch with the youth and am not very good at rallying.

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99. "this kinda hurts"
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ouch but damn if aint the truth

>
>Personally though-- I don't think black folks need to be
>fighting anyone in this country for anything. Let the whites
>have it and the repercussions for their past transgressions,
>let the violent racism fall on another group, and let our
>African ancestors rest by fulfilling their dream of being
>anywhere but here.

  

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13. "you sayin alot in here..."
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>I'm not saying
>I full out endorse what they're doing, but Americans seem to
>forget that our nation was founded by a bunch of white guys
>who destroyed and stole property not only from its original
>owners, but also from their fellow white people.
>
when the manifest destiny campaign was in full force, white folks committed atrocities to actually acquire shit. when was was said and done, they ended up with something tangible to show for it. and it was SUBSTANTIAL. them bammas stole & ended up with an entire country.

the average fool lootin comes out of there with what? a few pairs of shoes? a handful of jeans? some fuckin body wash & doritos?

>
>Americans are being executed by cops, corporations have been
>lying in bed with big government for so long that our middle
>class is turning into a fucking joke, workers are being pushed
>harder for less money and fewer benefits....and all any of us
>want to do is watch reality TV and play on our phones...

you mixing up a few storylines here. what do out of control cops have to do with corporations?

but i will say that oppressed & depressed workers are mad. pissed off even. and that's the shit that makes you pick up a brick and hurl it at a row of cops wearing riot gear...
>
>I don't know...I think Americans are due for a pretty big wake
>up call.
>
are the current events in Bmore really gonna awake anybody? did the Watts riots wake anybody up? how woke are the people in Ferguson right now?

all i know is the fact that as you're reading this, people in Baltimore can't get to work cuz transportation is either shut down or altered to the point where the usual commute takes triple the time. and minimum wage workers that can't get to work ain't getting paid for the day while their jobs are shut down behind this bullshit. and when CNN goes home, and aint nobody talkin about this but local wbal channel 13...and when they lose interest and the only people left is the Afro newspaper...

that's when people who needed those stores to buy shit they can't get no other place cuz they lack transportation are gonna suffer.





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16. "RE: you sayin alot in here..."
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>the average fool lootin comes out of there with what? a few
>pairs of shoes? a handful of jeans? some fuckin body wash &
>doritos?

Yeah, and like I said elsewhere. The fact that we have generations who care more about consumerism than liberty is one of the reasons we need some radical change.



>you mixing up a few storylines here. what do out of control
>cops have to do with corporations?

It has to do with a culture that erodes freedom from a variety of angles. Those right wingers aren't wrong about big government...they just don't see the whole picture.

Out of control cops, corporations that control our government, etc. We've got a lot of problems that need to be addressed at the same time.

>but i will say that oppressed & depressed workers are mad.
>pissed off even. and that's the shit that makes you pick up a
>brick and hurl it at a row of cops wearing riot gear...

Yup

=
>are the current events in Bmore really gonna awake anybody?
>did the Watts riots wake anybody up? how woke are the people
>in Ferguson right now?

Occupy didn't either....we shouldn't just accept this as a fact of life, we should ask why.

>all i know is the fact that as you're reading this, people in
>Baltimore can't get to work cuz transportation is either shut
>down or altered to the point where the usual commute takes
>triple the time. and minimum wage workers that can't get to
>work ain't getting paid for the day while their jobs are shut
>down behind this bullshit. and when CNN goes home, and aint
>nobody talkin about this but local wbal channel 13...and when
>they lose interest and the only people left is the Afro
>newspaper...
>
>that's when people who needed those stores to buy shit they
>can't get no other place cuz they lack transportation are
>gonna suffer.

Yeah, the rioters haven't helped out their fellow working class, that's undeniable...but the system needs to be shaken, and shaken violently. The fact that someone can't get to a shitty job they probably hate anyway doesn't change my opinion about this.


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And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard

  

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19. "Yes, there is."
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>I'm not gonna lie, I'm not mad at the rioters. I'm not saying
>I full out endorse what they're doing, but Americans seem to
>forget that our nation was founded by a bunch of white guys
>who destroyed and stole property not only from its original
>owners, but also from their fellow white people.
>
>
>Americans are being executed by cops, corporations have been
>lying in bed with big government for so long that our middle
>class is turning into a fucking joke, workers are being pushed
>harder for less money and fewer benefits....and all any of us
>want to do is watch reality TV and play on our phones...
>
>I don't know...I think Americans are due for a pretty big wake
>up call.
>

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20. "Revolution >>>> Riots"
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Revolution changes things for better for the people. Riots have never mad anything better for the people.


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25. "Arguing semantics doesnt change things either n/m"
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26. "It's not semantics, it's about a mindset and goals."
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54. "Fighting the System vs Robbing Aunt Bev. Semantics"
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101. "Not according to history. "
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Aside from the American one, most of the other revolutions just resulted in regimes that turned out even more repressive than the ones that got overthrown. Needless to say, the people didn't benefit much from them.

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22. "FREDDIE GRAY"
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FUCK ALL THE DUMB SHIT

THREE FRACTURED VERTEBRA AND A CRUSHED VOICE BOX

...According to the city, an officer made eye contact with Gray, and he took off running, so they pursued him. Though he'd had scrapes with the law before, there's no indication he was wanted at the time.

...The police say Gray didn't resist arrest and that officers didn't use force, which seems to be mostly corroborated by video shot by bystanders.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/04/the-mysterious-death-of-freddie-gray/391119/

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23. "So egregious. "
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Absolutely vile.

How can the police officers who did this live with themselves? How do their fellow officers live with them?

fuck you.

  

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30. "RE: So egregious. "
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>Absolutely vile.
>
>How can the police officers who did this live with themselves?

a dirty cop with a conscience will probably end up drinking himself into an early grave.
po
those without give less than a fuck cuz they view the people they police as less than human so that justifies doing whatever to them...

>How do their fellow officers live with them?

same way the streets embrace STOP SNITCHIN, the cops got that blue line or blue shield or whatever. either way, cops hardly ever rat on other cops...


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34. "they been doin this shit for years ...and now we here"
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24. "YES - whenever there is a major sports victory or defeat."
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BUT ONLY THEN.

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27. "You're right. White Folks are justified and it's just as crazy. "
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96. "Or when a white woman lies about being raped by a black man"
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Or when a white woman lies about being touched by a black man

Or when black folks end up working with white folks

Or when Chinese people end up working with white folks

Or when Latinos don't wear the clothes that white folks say they should wear

I'm sure I'm leaving some out...

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28. "No justice, no peace. "
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It needs not be any more complicated than that.



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29. "But 'No Peace' doesn't mean rioting. "
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32. "yes their are plenty of reasons but what good does it ever accomplish"
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If the rioters are not organized and don't have any power

Without power or organization you're just hurting yourself

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35. "yes. and i dont understand the people who say it doesnt accomplish anyth..."
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because fuck yes they do

and i think there are numerous examples of instances where they have
e,g most recently the burkinabe uprisings
the arab spring (and i speak regardless of the consequences, the achievements at the onset)
soweto
nairobi in the 90s
the bread riots in france
etc etc.

perhaps *this* might not, but lets not paint a general brush
and not every riot starts with a guarantee of success



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39. "RE: yes. and i dont understand the people who say it doesnt accomplish a..."
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>because fuck yes they do
>
>and i think there are numerous examples of instances where
>they have
>e,g most recently the burkinabe uprisings
>the arab spring (and i speak regardless of the consequences,
>the achievements at the onset)
>soweto
>nairobi in the 90s
>the bread riots in france
>etc etc.
>
>perhaps *this* might not, but lets not paint a general brush
>and not every riot starts with a guarantee of success
>
>
>
Those are mostly riots where people had some power (they were the majority) and there was was organization, most of the area in the inner cities of America where there were riots from the 60s on forward are still damaged from those riots


We've got to organize and use our heads like In the civil rights movement, there is some of that but it's not cohesive. Riots really would be unnecessary if we came together.

>

dude

  

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50. "i asked specifically what rioting has accomplished for Blacks."
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here. in the USA.

what has rioting done for us?

rioting like what we're seeing now in Baltimore, not whatever they did in the colonial era. not rioting in foreign lands either. here. in the USA. in recent times. what has burning and looting private businesses and even government bldgs accomplished for Black ppl in the USA?

fuck you.

  

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62. "rioting in LA got a new police chief, more community policing"
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some oversight committees, sparked a lot more activism, and a gang truce.

the changes weren't over night, and our biggest problems still exist, but the magnitude of those problems decreased drastically after the riots.

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63. "oh okay."
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then that shit was totes worth it.

fuck you.

  

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67. "lets not quickly dismiss ferguson too quickly either"
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there's a possibility of overhauling police practices
especially fund raising through issuing warrants and arresting people for whatever
i think its better to wait and see what the longer term results will be


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/mar/5/ferguson-aftermath-us-finds-racist-profit-driven-p/?page=all

The report’s recommendations, if accepted by city officials, could lead to an overhaul of basic practices by police officers and court officials. Those include improving officer supervision, better recruiting, hiring and promotion and new mechanisms for responding to misconduct complaints.

Federal officials described Ferguson leaders as cooperative and open to change and said there were already signs of improvement. The city, for example, no longer issues failure-to-appear warrants, has eliminated a fee for towing cars and rescinded warrants for nearly 600 defendants.

Under Holder, the Justice Department has investigated roughly 20 police departments over alleged civil rights violations. Some have led to the appointment of independent monitors and have been resolved with agreements in which police commit to major changes.

“It’s quite evident that change is coming down the pike. This is encouraging,” Gaskin said. “It’s so unfortunate that Michael Brown had to be killed. But in spite of that, I feel justice is coming.”
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"Several city officials resigned following the review, including the city manager, police chief and municipal judge. The municipal court clerk was fired for racist emails."
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"The election means that half of the six-member city council in Ferguson, a town where two-thirds of the 21,000 residents are black, will now be African-American. The lone black incumbent councilman was not up for re-election. The mayor, who could break any tie votes, is white."


perhaps it doesnt sound overwhelmiing, but it is something

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74. "i'm not about to connect any of that to the burning and looting though."
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fuck you.

  

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79. "sure"
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http://perspectivesudans.blogspot.com/
i myself would never want to be god,or even like god.Because god got all these human beings on this planet and i most certainly would not want to be responsible for them, or even have the disgrace that i made them.

  

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88. "only because i lived in the aftermath for two decades"
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compounded by economic depression
i kind of understand what they are saying
but
BUT
seeing the money POUR in now for the last 20 years?

oh fuck them
they clean up shit for white folks QUICK after their riots
we on the other hand are left to climb out or rot
or wait for gentrification
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36. "Successful wars are fought on multiple fronts. Some march, some riot. "
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Takes a little of both for people to wake up to reality.
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40. "Whites would riot if Time Warner Cable went down during Mad Men."
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Let that shit happen during the finale and see how many buildings get burned.

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42. "Reasons to riot:"
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The powers that be are destroying a community, but they're going too slow

The public sentiment to finally demilitarize the cops is growing too strong

Way too much news coverage on cops killing unarmed people. Need more shots of them trying to keep the peace among savages

  

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45. "damn"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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46. "Savages? Guess it takes one to know one."
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53. "Oh come on, did I really have to type the quotes? Context was obvious."
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Obviously I was talking about creating a particular image/story/impression to distract from the truth

  

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78. "You gotta put savages in quotes next time, but my bad."
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103. "k"
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51. "We're N-I-N-E months into this news cycle of police brutality"
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Forgetting about the numerous examples before hand, but figure we've had one high profile case every few weeks from Micahel Brown on.

Nothing's really changed.

Its' interesting how people are mad at the riots but totally ignore that somehow a dude got his neck broke and NOBODY has given a reason why for two weeks and it seems like nobody is planning to. There's been continous peaceful protests for weeks, but as usual, nobody cared.

Honestly, when things like this pop off I find less fault with

The cops: because they are working like any other service without accountability

The politicians: protecting their self interest

But mainly with white america who not only allow this, but support it under their watch because of their own inherent biases. Cops heads would have rolled if politicians thought they would lose their job, and they don't, because they know their jobs are secure because America ultimately doesn't care.

  

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52. "thing is...the cops dont believe in their own system"
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oh its fine to let niggas go thru the courts ..but their own? nah son.... it would be much easier o everyone if they were able to be transparent and realize they have to sacrifice 4 or 5 "bad" cops from time to time to keep peace.... all niggas want is for them to be tried in the same system we are sent thru...

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>.... all niggas
>want is for them to be tried in the same system we are sent
>thru...

  

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86. "RE: thing is...the cops dont believe in their own system"
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>oh its fine to let niggas go thru the courts ..but their own?
>nah son.... it would be much easier o everyone if they were
>able to be transparent and realize they have to sacrifice 4 or
>5 "bad" cops from time to time to keep peace.... all niggas
>want is for them to be tried in the same system we are sent
>thru...

exactly

thats the MOST eyebrow raising aspect of this
folks talking about 'investigation'
but not through the actual SYSTEM everyone else is rush through and into
they let that ass in oklahoma go.on.vacation.to.the.bahamas.
how can folks not see and understand there are TWO systems still at play here
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91. "This IS their system "
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55. "RE: We're N-I-N-E months into this news cycle of police brutality"
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>Its' interesting how people are mad at the riots but totally
>ignore that somehow a dude got his neck broke and NOBODY has
>given a reason why for two weeks and it seems like nobody is
>planning to. There's been continous peaceful protests for
>weeks, but as usual, nobody cared.

sure. and burning and looting private businesses and burning police cars will bring that attention, right? like it wasn't there before but it'll be there now.

and the fact that the ppl in the hoods that have burned will suffer is of less importance than whatever news coverage and twitter hashtags result.

right on.

fuck you.

  

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56. "It won't. And it's wrong. But lets not act like its not a natural progre..."
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>sure. and burning and looting private businesses and burning
>police cars will bring that attention, right? like it wasn't
>there before but it'll be there now.
>
>and the fact that the ppl in the hoods that have burned will
>suffer is of less importance than whatever news coverage and
>twitter hashtags result.

Even something symbolic like the cops getting arrested a few days in and none of this would have happened.

While people are focused on what cause the riots, how come they didn't diffuse the situation, everyone's forgetting that if the situation was properly dealt with from the start they wouldn't have had this powder keg tha they let simmer for two weeks, and is still simmering because we have no answers.

  

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58. "Arresting folks on less than probable cause (maybe) just to calm the com..."
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I can't clap to that.

It's only been 2 weeks. I agree something needs to be done but I'm not sure what yet. Bc I dunno what happened. I don't think a 2 week 'delay' is necessarily problematic. I dunno.

fuck you.

  

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69. "two weeks to explain a 30 minute window"
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sounds like a cover-up to me

they really trying to not arrest the cops involved.

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72. "probably."
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fuck you.

  

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93. "I think the city was actually pretty responsive to protests"
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>Forgetting about the numerous examples before hand, but
>figure we've had one high profile case every few weeks from
>Micahel Brown on.
>
>Nothing's really changed.
>
>Its' interesting how people are mad at the riots but totally
>ignore that somehow a dude got his neck broke and NOBODY has
>given a reason why for two weeks and it seems like nobody is
>planning to. There's been continous peaceful protests for
>weeks, but as usual, nobody cared.


The police initially were vague but when the protests started forming, the police admitted he wasn't seatbelted and he wasn't given medical attention initially when he requested it. Final report is due by Friday.


In the context of the "rough rides" police have given suspects in the past, I think that's likely what happened here.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/04/the-rough-ride-and-police-culture/391538/

"Once Gray was in the van, he was handcuffed. Apparently because he was "irate" during the ride, officers stopped and shackled his legs, too. The one thing they didn't do was buckle his seat belt. Not only does that sound like common sense, it's also department policy—and BPD admits it was violated. A lawyer for one of the six officers involved in the Gray case, all of whom have been put on desk duty with pay, implied that the policy was frequently ignored. "Policy is policy, practice is something else,” Michael Davey told the Associated Press. “It is not always possible or safe for officers to enter the rear of those transport vans that are very small, and this one was very small."

Critics argue that the reason a prisoner would be left unbuckled is not to protect officers but to dole out extrajudicial treatment. Baltimore juries have on occasion agreed. In 2004, a man named Jeffrey Alston won $39 million from Baltimore after he was paralyzed from the neck down during a police-van ride. The following year, Dondi Johnson Sr. won $7.4 million after a ride left him a paraplegic. In 2013, Johns Hopkins librarian Christine Abbott filed a suit against the department for a "rough ride" after a 2012 arrest that resulted from a noise complaint. Her lawyer alleges she was not buckled and an officer drove "maniacally" as she was taken in, throwing her around the unpadded van. (Abbott is white; Alston and Johnson, like Gray, are black.) Arrestees and advocates say drivers will jam to abrupt stops and take corners hard to toss riders around.
"

<-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->
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95. "Interesting."
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fuck you.

  

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44. "Of course"
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59. "if i'm being honest...no"
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i'm defending the portrayal of the rioters as a group...

but i'm not justifying the shitty actions

opportunists are not revolting...they are rioting

it's a human reaction...it's no need to demonize or attempt to make them seem less than human because the anger is justified...the outlets are largely ineffective

the fact that the story wasn't that big a story until the destruction says something...doesn't justify it...just makes it easy to understand

the police need oversight period and need to be held accountable

but pretending rioting is a desirable form of protest, revolution, change, or anything other than a childish emotional reaction is BS

Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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60. "riots aren't planned. riots are forces of nature. riots just happen"
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when a crowd of people gets sufficiently angry.

riots are the wildfires that start when society neglects to throw water on the camp's ashes and embers and mix it with the soil.

"reasons" ain't got shit to do with it.

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61. "agreed."
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fuck you.

  

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64. "it just happens"
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we can argue if it's right or wrong or whatever, but the reality is that it literally just boils over in that moment. also I have a thought that cops coming out in riot gear never helps the situation. I know they gotta be prepared, but it's not a good look in my opinion.

  

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65. "i never like the riot gear worn to peaceful protest"
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however, b/c of what we're saying about rioting just breaking out w/o planning or forethought i understand why cops do it.

fuck you.

  

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66. "catch 22 (kinda)"
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68. "they just break out WHEN people get angry enough"
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riot gear for no damn reason can spark that fire.

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73. "yup."
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fuck you.

  

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71. "truth"
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that mob mentality that takes over is no joke
(as anyone who's been caught up in one has experience)
but it usually starts because something is smoldering
and usually the police reaction sometimes escalates it

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i myself would never want to be god,or even like god.Because god got all these human beings on this planet and i most certainly would not want to be responsible for them, or even have the disgrace that i made them.

  

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85. "well said."
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70. "SoWhat is smarter than all of us. His answers are the truth"
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he is our leader

his ten point plan is flawless

  

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75. ". . ."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAYvVIFRoNk

i talk good. don't get mad - talk better.

*shrugs*

fuck you.

  

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76. "you are the truth and the light"
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the apex of critical thought, social theory, historical understanding, and progressive ethics philosophy

  

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77. "...and my dick is big too."
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sho you right, player.

sho you right.

fuck you.

  

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83. "incredible, even better"
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you're like a perfect human. do you have flaws?

may generations upon generations be blessed with your Colin Powell x Destro x Skelator x Tony Starks DNA

poder para el comandante de OKP!

  

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89. ". . ."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDjn0sJ_jfk

fuck you.

  

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90. "amen"
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81. "Are they rioting in rich part of town or in the hood?"
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sorry I am not familiar with Boston

cause at this point in time, it's kind of cliche to burn down your own neighbourhoods.
it would be good to express anger in a part of town that will be rebuilt right away.
the stakeholders in that part of town also have a big sway with police and the mayor


to answer the original question. sometimes riots cant be prevented.
so i'd rather they burn buildings and cars than burning people...as they recently did in South Africa.

  

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87. "Were they burning Africans or Afrikaners? "
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I mean-- not that it matters.

______________________________________

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82. "Yeah - if you want to destroy things."
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The question is, whose things do you want to destroy? Other people's/communities? Your own stuff?

  

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84. "The revolution isn't a one time 'spring' of violence"
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look at the Arab Spring which was supposed to bring democracy or at the very least better leadership from government officials.

Now it seems as if the governments of the countries who were involved are even more unstable than they were before. (someone correct me about this if I am inaccurate.)

Like Lardlad95 said, there are major, entrenched, systemic problems that are affecting all of America, the black community moreso, and the inner city and the quality of life of black men, women and children living there immensely.

I am not prone to violence and would not support an armed force in the name of freedom. But I understand the motivation.

The only real 'revolution' is to both hold everyone accountable for the failure of society, to the degree they are invested or liable, and also build systems of governance and commerce & the structure to support children, women and men to give them the internal emotional, intellectual, and social skills which can truly create a fair and equitable society. Not necessarily a society where those who err are cast out of society and then not given opportunities to redress their wrongdoings, i.e., criminals or those who suffer from physical/psychological issues such as addiction and depression. But a society which acts with swiftness and a correct measure of guilt and a shame which does not condemn the acts of the weak, but a shame which examines the policies and actions of the society which helped lead an individual person or a group of people to commit harm against themselves and others.

Yes, revolution often comes with spilled blood, but democracy and civilization (a real civilization) takes time, focused and deliberate attention, and resolve to complete the aims of that society.

  

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92. "i agree 100%."
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fuck you.

  

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94. "sometimes punching a wall feels like your only outlet"
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even though you know it will just make everything worse, and you've done nothing but fuck up your own hand and your own wall.

Not saying that as an excuse to steal, and burn shit down that doesn't belong to you... I will never clap to any of that shit. but the general frustration manifesting in a way that's completey irrational, I understand on some level. Im trying to think of times that the only thing that made sense in my head was to break everything in sight, then mix that with a mob of people who are feeling the same way. its pretty scary.

  

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97. "Or leaving ones toxic environment "
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98. "well said."
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It's difficult to reject the behavior which is counterproductive while acknowledging that they were right to express their anger.

  

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100. "No! But I understand and I empathize with the marginalized"
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"And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful." ~ 2 Tim 2:4

  

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102. "We might fight amongst each other... but I promise you this:"
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We'll burn this bitch down, get us pissed (c)2Pac

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104. "if Pac said it, it must be a good idea"
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105. "If you black in Amerikka is there ever a reason not to?"
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106. "being really fucking pissed off is the only reason"
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like "planning" to riot seems stupid and looting is largely opportunistic/greedy (i guess there may be exceptions).

but i mean at some point if you just can't take the shit, i don't know that it's a "valid reason" to riot, but it's certainly sold motivation.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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107. "There's a reason to push an old man down the stairs........ "
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....just don't do it.

(c) Chris Rock

The reasons for this riot are valid and plentiful. The problem is that they're really only hurting themselves and their community. The cops will probably jerk off to the footage at the end of the day because in their eyes all it does is validate their opinion that blacks are animals and justify the mistreatment of those animals. They have an entire channel dedicated to ignoring the root cause of these riots, absolving police at nearly every turn as they pretend that the problems within the black community begin and end with the black community.

To that end I can only condemn these riots on a superficial level, due to the harm caused by property owners. I think it's foolish to simply assume that all this property is insured and thus conclude that it's really of small consequence.

The reasons to riot are there. That won't save them from ultimately getting arrested, tried, and likely convicted, will it?

So again, yes, there are reasons. I just don't see who benefits outside of cops and right wing media.

  

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109. "^^^two-handed putback slam"
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110. "Bruh. C'mon, bruh."
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