I suspect i'm waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off base....but I just never got a warm fuzzy about the place.

My impression of it is that it's like a really polarized, more affordable version of Prince George's County Maryland combined with Alexandria, VA and a sprinkle of maybe Baltimore...

Really bougie Black folks, really Republican/conservative White folks, and a lot of hard working blue collar folks of both Black and white race. I don't envision many other ethnicity or cultures having much influence or presence in the region.

I can't imagine there's much to do in the way of the arts, cultural enrichment, etc. I don't see it as a very walkable region unless you're in the immediate downtown area....and even then...that's a Mon-Fri affair.

I'm looking from a family standpoint....not a single person standpoint.


"Seasons may come and your luck just may run out, and all that you'll have is some memories..."

>I suspect i'm waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off base....but I
>just never got a warm fuzzy about the place.
>
>My impression of it is that it's like a really polarized, more
>affordable version of Prince George's County Maryland combined
>with Alexandria, VA and a sprinkle of maybe Baltimore...

I'm from Baltimore, and I'd say the two areas may be similar in terms of the "region" being conflated with the "city" - big difference between Sandy Springs and Atlanta, but not to an oustsider...and you're spot on with the polarization. Too many little fiefdoms in the Atlanta metro that hold tight to their secessionist agendas and keep the area from moving forward...however, they need Atlanta and loathe it at the same time.

>Really bougie Black folks, really Republican/conservative
>White folks, and a lot of hard working blue collar folks of
>both Black and white race. I don't envision many other
>ethnicity or cultures having much influence or presence in the
>region.

This might be true, although the dynamics of Black Atlanta are changing. To me, it seemed like a good number of the "black professionals" got run off in '08 when the housing market crashed and Atlanta went to shit. There's some holdouts, and people are still doing well and also famously fronting like Atlanta knows how. As the development market comes back, Atlanta's gentrifying RAPIDLY and those suburban white kids from far flung regions are moving into the city, and bringing their values/outlook/privilege with them. I'm sure Atlanta is going to have a white mayor again in the next 10 years at least.

>I can't imagine there's much to do in the way of the arts,
>cultural enrichment, etc. I don't see it as a very walkable
>region unless you're in the immediate downtown area....and
>even then...that's a Mon-Fri affair.

There's a lot in terms of art - great museums and art collectives (I sit on the board for one). Since there's the "region" there's different things happening across counties, so while ATL may not be NY in terms of art, it does well for the Southeast. You're right about the walkability though. A block in Atlanta is FOREVER and things are insanely spread out with very little urban density. Race and money has a big part to do with Atlanta's car culture, but the tide is slowly turning, although it's towards these live/work/play developments that don't do much in terms of density but you can walk to Starbucks and a dry cleaner without getting into your car which is huge for ATL

>I'm looking from a family standpoint....not a single person
>standpoint.

I think it's good for both. There's enough to do and you can have some affordable space (although ATL's cost of living is skyrocketing) Although APS schools, like many public school jurisdictions is shitty. If you're looking at Atlanta metro counties, which again comprise Atlanta the region, there's big differences between them (cost, demographics, gov't) and what they can offer a family.

>"Seasons may come and your luck just may run out, and all that
>you'll have is some memories..."

Streets won't let me chill.

Atlanta is filled with a bunch of Bammas who think they are fancy driving BMWs and Benzs they can't afford or otherwise bought from mortgage schemes they got talked into by their cousins Meechie and Dem.

Every broad treats every interaction like they are auditioning for a Reality Show and I find myself looking for cameras whenever I talk to any woman from Atlanta.

What makes it all the more hilarious is that they think they are the ish and don't realize that they some bammas. Dudes think once they take off their jean shorts, white air force ones and tucked in polo shirts and put on their oh too shiny suits and bow ties, they really think they sharp and ready to take on the town. And the ladies don't realize that their city has the biggest imbalance of attractive ladies to dudes and act like they aren't highly replaceable.

Still one of my favorite cities to visit. I love you Atl. Just for the self-esteem boost every time I visit.

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I feel you on the women tho. They really on that reality TV bullshit.

If it wasn't so spread out I would be all up in ATL but every time I go to visit fam I get angry at all the driving and 50 various roads named peachtree.

damn! LOL

fuck you.

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the idea of working all the time to afford MUCH less in LA was something i couldn't wrap my mind around. but now, i think i'd be HAPPY to grind for a better quality of life.

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>the idea of working all the time to afford MUCH less in LA
>was something i couldn't wrap my mind around. but now, i
>think i'd be HAPPY to grind for a better quality of life.

The day to day realization that our efforts are yielding mediocre gains in quality of living vs. other regions in the country has us looking for greener pastures.

My wife and I probably have the highest combined incomes in both of our families.....yet we definitely live in the smallest house. This includes siblings, cousins, 1st & 2nd cousins..... I know it ain't all about the house either....but it's a significant marker....

"Seasons may come and your luck just may run out, and all that you'll have is some memories..."

If you want to buy a place ITP Atlanta, you better have a big stack of cash and be ready to get into ridiculous bidding wars 24-48 hours of initial listing in Atlanta. Real estate here has gone officially insane. Bubble on the horizon since a ton of it are venture capital firms and speculators, who aren't getting decent returns in the bond and money markets compared to real estate + the massive growth and revitalization of central Atlanta.

unless you can afford the prices or are going the gentrifier route and buying up places downtown.

Smyrna, Duluth, Dunwoody, Sandy Springs, Mabelton, etc. - all fine places near the perimeter that are good to raise a family.

It feels like more of a 20-30 something thing, but I could be wrong.

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>It feels like more of a 20-30 something thing, but I could be
>wrong.

You needs miles of sidewalk and things to walk to for them to burn that mess off...

Also....trying to keep physical fitness as a part of their everyday lifestyle is an important value to us.

"Seasons may come and your luck just may run out, and all that you'll have is some memories..."

If you have the equity and the means to pay the taxes, Oakhurst is right up your ally:

http://atlhomesearch.com/neighborhoods/oakhurst/homes.html


City of Decatur schools, the best public schools ITP; close to downtown Decatur, close to downtown Oakhurst, miles of walkable sidewalks and the best parks in the city; also within reasonable distance of a MARTA station. BUT: prices might be inflated, some areas are really close to a few of the worst spots in Atlanta (Little Mexico and Edgewood Courts), and City of Decatur property taxes are hefty.

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Bullet literally dodged. They are still asking $250K+ for 2/1 condos over there and you can see Afghanistan from your 10 foot patio.

and i'm near FULL gentrification over here in East Atlanta.

barely understood what those bammas were saying but i know enough not to get a mortgage near ANY of that!

just realized i was all over there near the community garden and thought it was nice over there. i hope those people get displaced QUICK!

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He was the magnate that owned/was handcuffed to the property. Section 8 designated, so I think there is a ton of red tape to cut and get rid of it. Plus he dodged a ton of complaints/lawsuits/regulation on upkeep and crime issues with it because of his connections with City Hall. Now that he passed, I am sure his heirs will sell it so it can be converted to some "mixed use" crap. Just last night:


http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/woman-shot-robbed-meeting-2-men-atlanta/nkwLT/


I've seen, from Coan Middle School's playing field, an old man (70s) get beaten to death in the Edgewood Courts parking lot. Cops flat out refuse to go back there because of just how screwed up it is and the owner . And now MARTA is going to build new "upscale" apartments on the south parking lot at Candler Park station. Pfff. Just ring the dinner bell for them.

my other tabs open in Chrome are "FSBO vs. Realator statistics"

i'm getting out of here. even the idea of crossing paths with those people is irritating enough to move. time to scare the wife into getting the fuck out.

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Just wait: Southeast Beltline is coming plus Maynard Jackson is rumored to be converting to a charter school. EAV is going to really pop pretty soon.

snatched wife up from a career, friends, and life in LA to come here and now "I'M" the one hating this place while she LOVES it! unless i can find a way to commit insurance fraud and burn this house down, i'll prolly be wearing an oversized Falcons jersey soon enough.

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They are always going to bomb and they are always gonna do it hard

Its hilarious, and even better after a little build-up, like the Hawks having a #1 seed

Take it from a transplant who loved ATL. Be an anti-Atlanta fan. Its rewarding.

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at least not in a family-friendly environment.

If you've got good money, you can get an apartment in Buckhead/Lindberg area, or at Atlantic Station, but otherwise? Nah. East Atlanta & Midtown are too hipster for all of that, as are the regentrified parts of downtown.

You might be able to get it in parts of those suburbs (they're doing all the building & construction right now). Sandy Springs is a key example. *edit* and apparently Oakhurst in the southeast corner as well.

>If you want to buy a place ITP Atlanta, you better have a big
>stack of cash and be ready to get into ridiculous bidding wars
>24-48 hours of initial listing in Atlanta. Real estate here
>has gone officially insane. Bubble on the horizon since a ton
>of it are venture capital firms and speculators, who aren't
>getting decent returns in the bond and money markets compared
>to real estate + the massive growth and revitalization of
>central Atlanta.

To purchase a single family home...in a decent neighborhood...with GOOD schools...and amenities nearby....for anything less than $450K.... and if you DO find something for $450K...it's gonna need at least $150K worth of work...and it's not going to hit the check marks I describe in the preceding.

I'ma keep it 100..... we paid $1/2 million for our house and it's less than 1,000 S.F.

Bidding wars are nothing. That's been a thing here since at least 2000. It's the only type of real estate transaction i've ever been exposed to....so it's no big deal. The COST vs. what you get for your money is what I mean by out of control.
Yeah...you can get more for you $$ if you move way out....but then you gotta factor in the commute time to get to work....

"Seasons may come and your luck just may run out, and all that you'll have is some memories..."

"I'ma keep it 100..... we paid $1/2 million for our house and it's less than 1,000 S.F."

couldn't do it. and i thought the COLD was what kept me from moving back up north!

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expensive counties in the region....and this was 8 years ago...
but still....anywhere in DMV that's inside the beltway and has a good school district and amenities and near metro is gonna be on par with that.

and DC never got hit with the crash like that....prices flattened out...but didn't really drop

And that same amount in other areas that DON'T fit that description is only going to net you maybe an additional 600-800 s.f.


"Seasons may come and your luck just may run out, and all that you'll have is some memories..."

What's it going for now? Just curious? I'm on the other side of the Woodrow Wilson. We got caught up in that housing debacle. Dropped 330 on the crib (townhouse) back in '07. Jounts waaaaaaaay upside down, although I've seen a slight resurgence in our community. Still upside down by a buck 20.

Oh...and I agree with you about the school sitch...except mine is worse than yours. That doesn't make me proud by no stretch. I love my urea, but it is what it is, and with a daughter going to kindergarten this upcoming school year...scares me/us.

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buying this house at the current going rate....
or willing to.....
last house in our hood of similar size sold for $720K.....it was only 1150SF.......


"Seasons may come and your luck just may run out, and all that you'll have is some memories..."

Anything, pretty much, ITP that isn't in a war zone that is in any sort of decent or tear-down shape south of, say $400K for 1200sq feet is gone within 48 hours at asking or above, usually for cash or, at the worst, with asking price + As Is, no inspection. It's mind numbing. Then, north of those prices are a ton of homes that suddenly appreciated 130-200% since the crash simply because they were decently made and in an okay area. Those move less fast because they are over valued entering the market, but even on the low end you are typically looking at a "transitional" or "near transitional" area. I have a client that sold his home in north Decatur within 3 days after they bought a 1400 square foot home in Toco Hills for $385K (asking) w/ 30% down, only to find out at inspection that the rear of the home needed major foundation work and a new external wall on the kitchen, about another $150K in repairs. Dude went back for an ask, not even mentioning price and they told him to kick rocks: back-up offer was cash as is from an overseas buyer.

That is whats happening and it is one of a few reasons I'm not so sure about ATL much longer.

of development happened fast up here in the early 2000s. We actualy purchased our first home in a new development in PG county back in 2001 for $189K.....sold it 3years later for $289K....I think at it's highest it sold for like $315K a year or two after we sold it..... I recently looked at the tax site and saw last sale was for $152K..... Last time I was in the neighborhood it'd gone kinda south. STill decent...but i'm glad we bounced.

If ATL isn't careful...they may find themselves in the same situation in some neighborhoods.... This is where the segregation issue comes into play for me.....PG got hit the HARDEST around here with the bubble...despite these developers building identical homes in more majority white sections of the region...those evened out for the most part....

"Seasons may come and your luck just may run out, and all that you'll have is some memories..."

where I'm at, they keep driving rental and mortgage amounts up plus they finance the gaudiest projects possible.
They are one of the main banes of my existence here in Queens.

here for dis.

i'm looking at richmond, raleigh, charlotte and surrounding areas. west coast, midwest, and possibly europe.

it's amazing how expensive the dc area market compared to those
cities.

Me too. GET ME THE OUTTA HERE!!!

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don't care. live, work, and take care of your shit.

we could definitely use some improvements, like walkability. I'm out of the dating scene, but there's plenty of chicks that don't fit the reality show archetype. hit up places besides the clubs/lounges.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

let it slide.

That's why we chose to move here from Boston after living in Chicago and NYC. I've spent a fair amount of time in ATL, but only around transplants, and they all seemed to be pretending the city is something it isn't.

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When I was into work related to real estate development.....
So I was seeing a lot of the region....not just isolated areas....

"Seasons may come and your luck just may run out, and all that you'll have is some memories..."

Almost night and day. I'd say 2006/2007 were the end of the real "black folk doing good Atlanta". When the development and easy mortgage money dried up a lot of people lost jobs or just walked away and went to DC, Houston, wherever. In fact, I think 2009 the Atlanta region lost population after decades of growth. It's starting to come back, but as has been said in this post, something different. The era of cheap colonials and good, plentiful corporate gigs is over.

Streets won't let me chill.

There's an extremely affluent "bougie" side that's based more on corporate success. Then, the entertainment "bougie" which feels like the Black Hollywood they mention. Then, there's a whole lot of regular professional/corporate Black folks and events/locations that cater to them. Then, there's a small scene for the Hipsters of all races. Then, there is the working class blue collar lifestyle. Then, there's White peoples at every level. From what I see, the more well to do whites there are more Liberal than the Blue collar ones that live further outside of the city.

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like...
I never seemed to come across just regular people....

"Seasons may come and your luck just may run out, and all that you'll have is some memories..."

That's likely the issue.

Doing work related to real estate development.
Property Condition Assessments and evaluations for developers....

Basically....I was the guy inspecting and providing pricing data, refurb recommendations, evaluations, development cost outlooks to the folks that were planning to turn Atl into what you folks are experiencing and seeing develop today. So that's why when I say I was all over, I was literally all over. Growth and boom like what's going on now happens over a 15-20 year span.... I was on the front end of the boom that's going on now.....

"Seasons may come and your luck just may run out, and all that you'll have is some memories..."

"L.A. is so rich and fake, I was in Beverly Hills, Hollywood, Rodeo, and Santa Monica. Well except the hood, I went to Compton and South Central...it's raggedy."

ATL is such a huge place...city itself is only like 400,000, but it's like 20+ counties (not just cities) that are all bordering...and it's a huge, ride range of everything. But you won't see it Downtown, or in Buckhead, or Bankhead (which a lot of us mixed up before we actually came...polar opposites).

To me, even regular spots like Atlantic Station were just normal. Only Buckhead and a few parts of Downtown really just felt all the way "above it all." Cascades don't even feel as uppity as some of the rich Black neighborhoods I've seen.

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those locations were already thumping....so there wasn't really much need for developers to be scoping those areas out. My exposure to those areas was primarily where i'd go have dinner with that good per diem money....


"Seasons may come and your luck just may run out, and all that you'll have is some memories..."

Inside the city, I can see it being that way. Half of the ATL people I knew in college came from bordering cities and Counties, and plenty of them seemed to be cool.

Or...maybe my perception of what's "bougie" or uppity is just different??

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i'd venture into the city proper to eat and stuff after hours....

Nah....bougie is bougie..lol... I really could take the bougie folks up here in DMV, plop them into ATL and they'd slide right into the mix without a slowdown...


"Seasons may come and your luck just may run out, and all that you'll have is some memories..."

I lived on the south end near Ponce

Loved it

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

Coming up on 14 years here, and I've gone from hating to madly in love to being the jaded "back in the day" sort. Lets see:



>Really bougie Black folks,

Some, though most that you run into are pretending to be better off than they likely are.

>really Republican/conservative
>White folks

Less so in Atlanta proper, but, yeah.

>and a lot of hard working blue collar folks of
>both Black and white race. I don't envision many other
>ethnicity or cultures having much influence or presence in the
>region.

Huge Asian populations all over the city, huge Middle and South American populations, huge east African and huge Caribbean communities, they just tend to stick in certain pockets. Yeah, someone said "Go to YDFM"; it may be the most ethnically diverse square mile in the country on most given weekends.

>I can't imagine there's much to do in the way of the arts,
>cultural enrichment, etc.

Compared to what? NYC, Chicago or DC? Well, yeah, you're right. But compared to most US cities there is plenty of cultural enrichment and a thriving arts community. Another thing is we're a city of festivals, which sort of hit me the other day as being perfect for how impermanent everything here seems. Festivals largely define

> I don't see it as a very walkable
>region unless you're in the immediate downtown area....and
>even then...that's a Mon-Fri affair.

Certain neighborhoods are walkable and there are big plans/projects to interconnect those walkable neighborhoods, but you're pretty much right for the most part: a car is necessary.


>I'm looking from a family standpoint....not a single person
>standpoint.

It seems like you saw the stereotypical parts of Atlanta and formed this opinion. You have to get away from people that treat Atlanta as a playground or a stage and get into some real neighborhoods. I would love to hear your impressions of, say, East Atlanta, West End, Castleberry or Grant Park.

When I first moved here, I moved to Buckhead and worked in Vinings and I was *this* close to packing up and getting the hell out within weeks because of the sort of people you initially described. But getting out and exploring all the neighborhoods kept me here and made me love it. Now, I'm starting to get tired of this "next" phase of Atlanta, to the point that I am open to leaving, but that's a whole other story.

>Coming up on 14 years here, and I've gone from hating to
>madly in love to being the jaded "back in the day" sort. Lets
>see:
>
>
>
>>Really bougie Black folks,
>
>Some, though most that you run into are pretending to be
>better off than they likely are.

That's the only kind that irk me....and it's RAMPANT here in DMV as well... We're less exposed to it now due to our current local....But we still run into it....

>>really Republican/conservative
>>White folks
>
>Less so in Atlanta proper, but, yeah.

Where does Atlanta Proper start and stop? And....what surrounding areas have the highest concentration of this?


>>and a lot of hard working blue collar folks of
>>both Black and white race. I don't envision many other
>>ethnicity or cultures having much influence or presence in
>the
>>region.
>
>Huge Asian populations all over the city, huge Middle and
>South American populations, huge east African and huge
>Caribbean communities, they just tend to stick in certain
>pockets. Yeah, someone said "Go to YDFM"; it may be the most
>ethnically diverse square mile in the country on most given
>weekends.

Cool. Gonna have to google YDFM.


>>I can't imagine there's much to do in the way of the arts,
>>cultural enrichment, etc.
>
>Compared to what? NYC, Chicago or DC? Well, yeah, you're
>right. But compared to most US cities there is plenty of
>cultural enrichment and a thriving arts community. Another
>thing is we're a city of festivals, which sort of hit me the
>other day as being perfect for how impermanent everything here
>seems. Festivals largely define

DC is my frame of reference. I know nothing's touching the kind of free things that are available here.... But DC is pretty much going to be the point of comparison for any relocation we would look into...


>> I don't see it as a very walkable
>>region unless you're in the immediate downtown area....and
>>even then...that's a Mon-Fri affair.
>
>Certain neighborhoods are walkable and there are big
>plans/projects to interconnect those walkable neighborhoods,
>but you're pretty much right for the most part: a car is
>necessary.

Gotta have my bicycle time yo... This is a major negative for us. I imagine that driving in ATL isn't as stressful though if there's less traffic.


>>I'm looking from a family standpoint....not a single person
>>standpoint.
>
>It seems like you saw the stereotypical parts of Atlanta and
>formed this opinion. You have to get away from people that
>treat Atlanta as a playground or a stage and get into some
>real neighborhoods. I would love to hear your impressions of,
>say, East Atlanta, West End, Castleberry or Grant Park.

I was all over due to the type of work I was doing....but yeah, i'll def. check for these areas you mention.


>When I first moved here, I moved to Buckhead and worked in
>Vinings and I was *this* close to packing up and getting the
>hell out within weeks because of the sort of people you
>initially described. But getting out and exploring all the
>neighborhoods kept me here and made me love it. Now, I'm
>starting to get tired of this "next" phase of Atlanta, to the
>point that I am open to leaving, but that's a whole other
>story.

See...THIS....this is what really has me open to the possibility that i'm way off base....


"Seasons may come and your luck just may run out, and all that you'll have is some memories..."

where to avoid. I don't get people that have visitors come in from out of town and they take them to, say, Lenox Mall, Streets of Buckhead, Peachtree St, Highlands or pretty much anywhere in north Atlanta. I drive through and occasionally work in Buckhead, for example, and the few times I actually get out and rub elbows with those people, it seems like a parody or an alien planet compared to the east or west side.

"Seasons may come and your luck just may run out, and all that you'll have is some memories..."

:-)

i don't even advise people to even CONSIDER living below I-20 anymore. i'm one of the "gentrifiers" that came to East Atlanta right before it blew up and prices swelled and i'm sitting pretty on 150K in appreciation on a brand new home over the last two years...but i'd still move next to Buckhead and live in a 2 bedroom if I had a chance.

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They can keep all that crap up there.

you're right. i think i prefer the more "corporate consistency" of established chains instead of smaller more "local" things. the wife faults me saying i like the wealthier facade and image of the suburbs vs. the hipster granola image that exists here. she's prolly right.

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seems to be running into all of the time. That shits a myth imo. The chicks here are just like women anywhere else.

NY, Miami, DC, Chicago, even Houston has those similar "Hollywood club girl" types that chase celebs, that's nothing major to me. But ATL does have a larger amount at the trendy clubs...and they SURELY are the kings of all the Rapper lookin dope boys. I've seen full clubs looking like Migos members.

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>NY, Miami, DC, Chicago, even Houston has those similar
>"Hollywood club girl" types that chase celebs, that's nothing
>major to me. But ATL does have a larger amount at the trendy
>clubs...and they SURELY are the kings of all the Rapper lookin
>dope boys. I've seen full clubs looking like Migos members.
>

Niggas do be huddled together in the club with all that shiny gold shit and "trendy clothes" on lol.

God bless you. Place is filthy with them. I can only imagine what the west-side club scene is like these days. It was miserable enough when I was single and driving a Honda 10 years ago; now?

It always mostly white people in both of those locations, or professional folks dining out.

go there when i feel "homesick". it's nice.

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Two fridays ago, went to the movies there and to get a drink after; 7 PM on a Friday, you would think it was 1 AM at Saturday of All Star weekend. So many broads teetering around on stilts, dresses fighting the good fight, just eyeing dudes up and openly calling out any guy that looked half-dressed. Weird place. Parking garage is the largest open air hotbox.

>Two fridays ago, went to the movies there and to get a drink
>after; 7 PM on a Friday, you would think it was 1 AM at
>Saturday of All Star weekend. So many broads teetering around
>on stilts, dresses fighting the good fight, just eyeing dudes
>up and openly calling out any guy that looked half-dressed.
>Weird place. Parking garage is the largest open air hotbox.

Its always chill when I go out there, but it does get more "urban" at night for lack of better words lol.

to meet some new folks. somewhat clubby type atmosphere.

I think this happens with every major city though.

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...now Regal Hollywood 24 up 85! A-Station is one step above small towns where Walmart is the Friday hangout. Middle of the week it's fine though.

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Themfolks got it the fuck up out of there amid rumors of an "undesirable" crowd.

having them ignore me.

I mean, I see the misdressed young ladies here and there. I just pay them - or anyone else - no attention. I'm usually only there to see a movie.

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Unless they were doing targeted shopping?

Fuck

&

That

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In my experience, a good number of these women come from smaller towns in the south (Mobile, Columbia, etc.) and that's how they think folks in the "big city" carry themselves. You'll clown, but reality TV and TP flicks shape a lot of people's perception of how Atlanta is and those women follow suit.

OR, they were one of the baddest chicks in their little town but weren't getting the return they thought they were worth and are looking to up their game in ATL.

Streets won't let me chill.

I like mundane & quiet when I need it, artsy when i need it, and super-opportunity 9000 when I need that. Get them all here.

you want things in excess then I'm sure it's to be found.

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there's maybe 3 other cities in the US i'd live in.

MAYBE.

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