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"MO Republicans trying to ban ppl from buying steak, seafood with ebt"


          

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/04/03/missouri-republicans-are-trying-to-ban-food-stamp-recipients-from-buying-steak-and-seafood/


In 2013, Fox News proudly broadcast an interview with a young food stamp recipient who claimed to be using the government benefit to purchase lobster and sushi.

"This is the way I want to live and I don’t really see anything changing," Jason Greenslate explained to Fox. “It’s free food; it’s awesome."

That story fit a longtime conservative suspicion that poor people use food stamps to purchase luxury items. Now, a Republican state lawmaker in Missouri is pushing for legislation that would stop people like Greenslate and severely limit what food stamp recipients can buy. The bill being proposed would ban the purchase with food stamps of "cookies, chips, energy drinks, soft drinks, seafood or steak."

"The intention of the bill is to get the food stamp program back to its original intent, which is nutrition assistance," said Rick Brattin, the representative who is sponsoring the proposed legislation.



Curbing food stamp purchases of cookies, chips, energy drinks, and soft drinks at least falls in line with the food stamp program's mission to provide nutrition. Nutrition experts are already discussing whether to remove unhealthy items from the list of foods participants can buy.

But seafood and steak? Seafood has been shown, time and again, to be a healthy part of any diet. And steak is such a broad category that it's essentially banning people from buying any flat cuts of beef, from porterhouse to flank.

"It just seems really repressive," said Mark Rank, a professor at Washington University and author of the book Living on the Edge: The Realities of Welfare in America. "I don't see how it makes any sense to ban some of these foods. Fish is something that should really be in your diet. And steak, what does that mean in this context?"

Brattin admits that the language might need some tweaking. "My intention wasn't to get rid of canned tuna and fish sticks," he said. But he also insists that people are abusing the system by purchasing luxury foods, and believes that that must be stopped, even if it ends up requiring the inclusion of other less luxurious items.

"I have seen people purchasing filet mignons and crab legs with their EBT cards," he said. "When I can't afford it on my pay, I don't want people on the taxpayer's dime to afford those kinds of foods either."

  

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Petty and spiteful. I had a coworker actually agree with this bullshit
Apr 15th 2015
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my cousin agrees with it. she likes to forget that she was gaming the sy...
Apr 15th 2015
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I said to her "you want to deprive people of lean meat and seafood"
Apr 15th 2015
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      this article sums up how I feel about it (link)
Apr 15th 2015
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           Yup
Apr 15th 2015
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           GREAT article. Thanks for sharing.
Apr 15th 2015
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           i like it.
Apr 15th 2015
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I had co workers agree and I work in the county assistance office
Apr 15th 2015
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      That's not bizarre at all. That's the prevailing sentiment among eligibi...
Apr 16th 2015
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On surface, I get why folks may agree, but naww.
Apr 15th 2015
2
i hate ppl.
Apr 15th 2015
3
The United States HATES poor people n/m
Apr 15th 2015
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no one moreso than slightly less poor people
Apr 15th 2015
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u already livin a struggle life. now we're limiting u to struggle food?
Apr 15th 2015
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They can dictate what you put in your mouth. Hands off my guns, tho.
Apr 16th 2015
25
people are horrible
Apr 15th 2015
11
What do they expect you eat before you grab a mic and bust
Apr 15th 2015
12
spam for the poor!..no shrimp!
Apr 15th 2015
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Let them eat cake! (c)
Apr 15th 2015
14
      not Hostess! Little Debbie!
Apr 15th 2015
15
$200 is $200
Apr 15th 2015
19
plus it's probably cheaper to eat
Apr 15th 2015
20
That's what I was saying to the Mrs.
Apr 15th 2015
21
its some straight up gut reaction anti logic shit
Apr 16th 2015
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LOL this isn't true in the slightest. Not even remotely.
Apr 16th 2015
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      So. if they DO fuck up and spend their money in 4 days
Apr 16th 2015
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           Did you see where I only argued one portion of your post,
Apr 16th 2015
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                I'm not saying you did. I meant to iinclude that last part in the
Apr 16th 2015
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Some conservative things I agree with
Apr 15th 2015
22
Elected officials are institutionalizing hatin
Apr 16th 2015
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a country full of racist, self-defeating idiots
Apr 16th 2015
26
Republican vegans?
Apr 16th 2015
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Cism
Apr 16th 2015
30
These two quotes read like an onion article:
Apr 16th 2015
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EBT items should be more akin to WIC items
Apr 16th 2015
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you can't buy prepared food with food stamps.
Apr 16th 2015
35
      depends on the state, there are loopholes
Apr 16th 2015
37
The cattle and fishing industry should respond to these Republicans
Apr 16th 2015
38

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1. "Petty and spiteful. I had a coworker actually agree with this bullshit"
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I hate her

  

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4. "my cousin agrees with it. she likes to forget that she was gaming the sy..."
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system when she lost her job at Chrysler. They got laid off with severance and her husband was still employed at Garmin. This broad goes and gets food stamps - bragged about how she only listed herself and her child and got $400/ mo - and now she wants to criticize how others (people who actually need it) spend their money. She also likes to forget that her mother was on food stamps for most of her childhood.

I hate her too!

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5. "I said to her "you want to deprive people of lean meat and seafood""
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"You want them to eat vienna sausage and hotpockets because that's what they deserve? You don't think they DESERVE good food".

  

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8. "this article sums up how I feel about it (link)"
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9. "Yup"
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17. "i like it."
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18. "I had co workers agree and I work in the county assistance office"
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its bizarre

  

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28. "That's not bizarre at all. That's the prevailing sentiment among eligibi..."
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>its bizarre

It's always fun to remind these fucks of the fact that they certainly don't mind making a living off of these people. It never goes over well and I love it.

  

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3. "i hate ppl."
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fuck you.

  

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6. "The United States HATES poor people n/m"
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7. "no one moreso than slightly less poor people"
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10. "u already livin a struggle life. now we're limiting u to struggle food?"
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25. "They can dictate what you put in your mouth. Hands off my guns, tho."
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11. "people are horrible"
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i can understand (even if i don't agree) about something like soda that has no nutritional value

but seafood and steak? they're basically saying their goal isn't nutrition, it's actually to stop people on public assistance from ever enjoying anything

  

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12. "What do they expect you eat before you grab a mic and bust"
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a flow?

  

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13. "spam for the poor!..no shrimp!"
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14. "Let them eat cake! (c) "
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fuck you.

  

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15. "not Hostess! Little Debbie!"
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19. "$200 is $200"
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If that's how much you get a month in assistance it doesn't cost the tax payer more money if you spend that amount on steak versus spending it. on some bull shit food.

Plus simple math/budgeting would dictate someone isn't going "waste" the little bit of aid they get for the month on a weeks worth of food

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20. "plus it's probably cheaper to eat"
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steak stir fry over a big plate of rice than hot pockets and frozen pizza.

  

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21. "That's what I was saying to the Mrs."
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That $200 limit isn't gonna be increased because someone spent their stamps on steak and shrimp instead of beans and rice. It's a dumb thing to be mad about.




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23. "its some straight up gut reaction anti logic shit"
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its very telling of people that react this way to this idea

  

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29. "LOL this isn't true in the slightest. Not even remotely. "
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>Plus simple math/budgeting would dictate someone isn't going
>"waste" the little bit of aid they get for the month on a
>weeks worth of food

That's wishful thinking and while some people are certainly budget conscious, you're clearly oblivious here.

  

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32. "So. if they DO fuck up and spend their money in 4 days"
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how does that cost the taxpayer more money?



I would hope after the first few months they would catch on to the fact they're starving 2/3 of the month.

Also another way allowing them to buy quality food SAVES us money is by cutting down on Medical bills. If you're eating nothing but cheap, processed tv dinners you're eventually going to find yourself in medical trouble and who has to pay for those emergency room visits

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33. "Did you see where I only argued one portion of your post, "
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>how does that cost the taxpayer more money?6. 6. I have a great

I dunno, sounds like a question you should ask to someone who makes that argument. I know I certainly didn't.

>I would hope after the first few months they would catch on to
>the fact they're starving 2/3 of the month.

That's just not the case with a lot of people. Many are just not that great at shopping. Many don't have the discipline to learn. Others don't even the means to stretch those dollars. A homeless person doesn't have the means to purchase and store perishables, for example.

>Also another way allowing them to buy quality food SAVES us
>money is by cutting down on Medical bills. If you're eating
>nothing but cheap, processed tv dinners you're eventually
>going to find yourself in medical trouble and who has to pay
>for those emergency room visits

Cool. I never made those arguments so i have no idea why you're asking me like i did.

  

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first post.

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This ain't it.

What is "steak" anyhow? So vague.

What if you buy a frozen dinner with shrimp in it? Is that a sin?

Not only is this dumb, it's un-enforceble.

  

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27. "Republican vegans?"
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Oh, just petty assholes.

  

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31. "These two quotes read like an onion article:"
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>Brattin admits that the language might need some tweaking. "My
>intention wasn't to get rid of canned tuna and fish sticks,"

lol poor people can eat all the fish sticks they want! I'm a reasonable man!


>"I have seen people purchasing filet mignons and crab legs
>with their EBT cards," he said. "When I can't afford it on my
>pay, I don't want people on the taxpayer's dime to afford
>those kinds of foods either."

A state representative "can't afford" a $10 filet at the grocery store? Yeah um...

  

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34. "EBT items should be more akin to WIC items"
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steak and shrimp dont bother me
prepared steak and shrimp does

  

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35. "you can't buy prepared food with food stamps."
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37. "depends on the state, there are loopholes"
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further,
no processed bs like snack cakes and potato chips either

like i said
like WIC

  

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38. "The cattle and fishing industry should respond to these Republicans "
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