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"Cop Drives Right at Suspect, Runs Him Over in Disturbing Dash Cam Video"


          

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he had a gun & it was caught on the video. this won't be a big story...
Apr 15th 2015
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Yeah, but it's kinda fucked. Not saying theydidn't have to stop dude
Apr 15th 2015
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      they could've killed him.
Apr 15th 2015
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           yeah since when is clipping a potential threat going 40 mph protocol?
Apr 15th 2015
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           He dropped the gun, didn't he?
Apr 15th 2015
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                Why not just use a drone to avoid potential police injury?
Apr 15th 2015
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           he'd already threatened the lives of others...
Apr 15th 2015
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                sounds like either a punitive or reckless act.
Apr 15th 2015
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                     would you prefer that they shot him?..
Apr 15th 2015
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                     naw. they should've just drawn and quartered him right there on the str...
Apr 15th 2015
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                     yet, he lived to tell his side of the story to a judge...
Apr 15th 2015
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                          Correction: he lived to file a dumb civil suit
Apr 15th 2015
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                          yup. and fortunately the courts understand that's not all that matters.
Apr 15th 2015
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                     preferably in the leg or arm. but that's too much to expect from these
Apr 15th 2015
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                          show me a weapons expert that trains to shoot limbs...
Apr 15th 2015
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                               weapons expert and cop are not one in the same
Apr 15th 2015
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                               weapons experts train cops to shoot center mass...
Apr 15th 2015
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                                    that's dumb. that's exactly the issue around Walter Scott's case.
Apr 15th 2015
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                                         this isn't the walter scott case...
Apr 15th 2015
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                                              so what exactly is your argument other than wanting to reiterate
Apr 15th 2015
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                                                   arm/leg/leg/arm/CAR!..
Apr 15th 2015
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                                                        ALLAH U COPCAR
Apr 15th 2015
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                                                             son of a bitch, lofl
Apr 15th 2015
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                               show me one that's trained to use a car as a takedown device.
Apr 15th 2015
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                                    high speed/defensive driving for the win?..
Apr 15th 2015
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                                    high speed/ddc include training on using a car to take down
Apr 15th 2015
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                                         it teaches how to take out an immediate threat...
Apr 15th 2015
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                                              I think they should add this to the manual in the academy, personally
Apr 15th 2015
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                                              w/a squad car?
Apr 15th 2015
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                                                   it teaches them to intercept fleeing suspects...
Apr 15th 2015
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                                                        and plenty jurors may agree w/what you're saying.
Apr 15th 2015
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                                                             very good point...
Apr 15th 2015
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                                    Nolte. 48 Hours.
Apr 16th 2015
60
                     He checks the boxes for most forces to use deadly force
Apr 15th 2015
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                          potentially.
Apr 15th 2015
20
WOW
Apr 15th 2015
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Just curious: What is the line for some people where force IS acceptable...
Apr 15th 2015
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I'm just shocked they ran him over. This particular dude I would
Apr 15th 2015
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use of some force here was likely appropriate.
Apr 15th 2015
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      To be fair, he clipped him with his side panel.
Apr 15th 2015
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      was he trained or nah, bro?
Apr 15th 2015
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      this some lawyery ass shit lol
Apr 15th 2015
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           lol
Apr 15th 2015
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           he greased himself up for all types of wiggle room
Apr 15th 2015
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I was shocked at the footage until I read about the situation
Apr 15th 2015
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the radio warning was to police vehicle approaching from the opposite di...
Apr 15th 2015
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didnt the cop unnecessarily put his own self at danger
Apr 15th 2015
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I thought of GTA V
Apr 15th 2015
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And he had just stolen that rifle and ammo from Walmart
Apr 15th 2015
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they shouldn't be selling that shit at Walmart
Apr 15th 2015
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      That's a whole other issue on its own
Apr 15th 2015
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           what's the diff
Apr 15th 2015
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                the violent cd censor vs gun availability dichotomy etc
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                     right on.
Apr 15th 2015
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LOL, I kept waiting for the car with the dashcam to hit him
Apr 15th 2015
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Y'all play too many video games, no way that is acceptable.
Apr 15th 2015
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collateral damage
Apr 15th 2015
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yup. that was some stupid 80s action flick thinking
Apr 16th 2015
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They didn't run over that white skinhead that shot 6 ppl killing 1
Apr 15th 2015
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"SIR, put down the gun. DONT KILL YOURSELF.
Apr 15th 2015
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BigJazz
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1. "he had a gun & it was caught on the video. this won't be a big story..."
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2. "Yeah, but it's kinda fucked. Not saying theydidn't have to stop dude"
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since he had a loaded weapon and was acting crazy but in real life you aren't supposed to deal with potential threats like Dukes of Hazard; there's a thousand other ways that shit couldda went wrong.

  

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4. "they could've killed him."
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it looks like excessive force to me.

fuck you.

  

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T Reynolds
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5. "yeah since when is clipping a potential threat going 40 mph protocol?"
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#ARIZONA

  

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6. "He dropped the gun, didn't he? "
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7. "Why not just use a drone to avoid potential police injury?"
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8. "he'd already threatened the lives of others..."
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..gta, stolen rifle, set fire to a church, and let off a round as cops approached.

that sounds like a clear indication of disregard for human life.

his excessive force was met with a greater excessive force.




*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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SoWhat
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9. "sounds like either a punitive or reckless act."
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sure he should've been taken down somehow but not like that.

fuck you.

  

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10. "would you prefer that they shot him?.."
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..their job was to stop the threat of harm to themselves and anyone else.

he's no longer a threat.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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SoWhat
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11. "naw. they should've just drawn and quartered him right there on the str..."
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fuck you.

  

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12. "yet, he lived to tell his side of the story to a judge..."
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..and no one else was harmed.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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16. "Correction: he lived to file a dumb civil suit"
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17. "yup. and fortunately the courts understand that's not all that matters."
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if he files suit claiming he suffered damages b/c the police used excessive force in subduing and arresting him he might get some satisfaction. i think he has a colorable claim at least.

fuck you.

  

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14. "preferably in the leg or arm. but that's too much to expect from these"
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center mass trained cops

  

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15. "show me a weapons expert that trains to shoot limbs..."
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..in the heat of a deadly situation?


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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18. "weapons expert and cop are not one in the same"
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obviously

  

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28. "weapons experts train cops to shoot center mass..."
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..i think you know where this is goin'.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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32. "that's dumb. that's exactly the issue around Walter Scott's case."
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and that's my point

  

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34. "this isn't the walter scott case..."
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..nothing about that case resembles this one, so i'll refrain from comparison.

this suspect had a loaded gun, shot at least one round as police approached, and had already committed GTA, robbery, and arson.

his actions were deliberate & extremely dangerous to himself & others.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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36. "so what exactly is your argument other than wanting to reiterate"
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"But the cops are trained to shoot at center mass, tho"

which we both agree on?

  

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41. "arm/leg/leg/arm/CAR!.."
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..you want it to be one way © marlo


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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42. "ALLAH U COPCAR"
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52. "son of a bitch, lofl"
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Thank you based T Rey

  

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21. "show me one that's trained to use a car as a takedown device."
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fuck you.

  

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27. "high speed/defensive driving for the win?.."
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*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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29. "high speed/ddc include training on using a car to take down "
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a suspect w/o killing him or injuring passersby or causing undue property damage?

fuck you.

  

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35. "it teaches how to take out an immediate threat..."
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..in an extreme situation.

the suspect was apprehended without further injury to any other person. the property damage was minimal.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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37. "I think they should add this to the manual in the academy, personally"
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bike thief?

gentle clip with front bumper

armed bike thief?

intercept via t-bone collision at (preferably) unpopulated intersection

  

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39. "w/a squad car?"
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it teaches them that?

fuck you.

  

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43. "it teaches them to intercept fleeing suspects..."
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..the officer got creative.

the suspect was arrested, nobody died.

*shrug*


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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44. "and plenty jurors may agree w/what you're saying."
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but looking at that video even knowing the facts as reported in the attached article i still think homie has a decent excessive force claim. w/more investigation i might feel differently. or not. i dunno.

fuck you.

  

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45. "very good point..."
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..a jury might agree, but even if they didn't, i'm just happy the situation was resolved without the unnecessary loss of life to innocent bystanders.

dude has every right to pursue a civil case... from behind bars.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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60. "Nolte. 48 Hours."
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Da bayball, babeh. (c) Charlie Kelly.

  

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13. "He checks the boxes for most forces to use deadly force"
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He was clearly armed and posing a risk. Not getting shot is a win for him.

  

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20. "potentially."
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fuck you.

  

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3. "WOW"
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♥ Inescapably Me ♥

"Love is never any better than the lover" Toni Morrison (The Bluest Eye)

  

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19. "Just curious: What is the line for some people where force IS acceptable..."
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If this is too far for someone on a mid-level crime spree and holding a loaded gun in public, what is the line? Actually shooting/killing someone?

  

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22. "I'm just shocked they ran him over. This particular dude I would"
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have no issue with if they shot. I would still think that the method they used to take him down was dumb as hell, but sure, effective.

  

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23. "use of some force here was likely appropriate."
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but use of THAT force may not be. it just looks reckless to me as i watch the video today. b/c i don't know that cop was trained to use his squad car to take down a suspect in that manner in that situation. if the cop driving that squad car was so trained then i might feel differently.

fuck you.

  

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24. "To be fair, he clipped him with his side panel."
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Had he wanted to kill him, he could have hit him head on and likely got the job done.

  

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30. "was he trained or nah, bro?"
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fuck you.

  

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26. "this some lawyery ass shit lol"
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Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

Building repetoires (c) spm since 1983

  

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31. "lol"
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fuck you.

  

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49. "he greased himself up for all types of wiggle room"
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25. "I was shocked at the footage until I read about the situation"
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Loaded gun. Already let off a few shots.
Assuming these facts are true (video link?), he put himself out there.

The way they neutralised him was highly unorthodox and graphic but it worked.
He went up in the air like a rag doll though. I would much rather they shot him.
The optics is kinda messed up. Flagrant.

Ps did the cop disregard orders to stay away? Not sure if I understood the radio chatter.

  

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33. "the radio warning was to police vehicle approaching from the opposite di..."
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..because they showed up after the suspect started shooting and was unaware that the suspect was locked & loaded.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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38. "didnt the cop unnecessarily put his own self at danger "
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and cause unnecessary damage to his vehicle too?

i dont have a problem with the use of force.
but there were less reckless options on the table
in terms of conflict resolution.

that just seemed like a complete disregard
for his OWN safety and department property.
suspect could have easily turned
and put a few rounds through the windshield.
or the cop coulda suffered injury from the crash.

you could clearly hear the closest car in pursuit
telling other cars to hang back.
that seemed like more advisable/standard protocol
while they reassess the situation
and come up with the best option.

  

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40. "I thought of GTA V "
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damn that's still vicious.

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rdhull
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46. "And he had just stolen that rifle and ammo from Walmart "
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47. "they shouldn't be selling that shit at Walmart"
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rdhull
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53. "That's a whole other issue on its own"
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56. "what's the diff"
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in buying it at walmart vs a sporting goods store? does either do the background check?

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rdhull
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57. "the violent cd censor vs gun availability dichotomy etc"
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>in buying it at walmart vs a sporting goods store? does
>either do the background check?
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tariqhu
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58. "right on."
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48. "LOL, I kept waiting for the car with the dashcam to hit him"
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then BAM!!!

dude flipped like a rag doll.

If he did all those things fuck'em. He is lucky to be alive to try and sue.

  

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50. "Y'all play too many video games, no way that is acceptable. "
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nevermind excessive force with the guy, they probably could have shot him and no one would blink.

But what if there was someone standing near the car where they rammed him? or on the other side of the wall which the driver couldn't see behind?

What about the property damage?

That was too reckless even for the police.


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55. "collateral damage"
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59. "yup. that was some stupid 80s action flick thinking"
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51. "They didn't run over that white skinhead that shot 6 ppl killing 1 "
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54. ""SIR, put down the gun. DONT KILL YOURSELF."
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Please.....allow me. *rams with car*"

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