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b.Touch
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"I'm watching "Jason's Lyric" for the first time ever."


  

          

The edges on this print are fading. I hope someone at...I guess MGM would own this now?...is looking into this?

It's owned by MGM, so prolly naw.

  

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He got Black Moses on the wall!!
Apr 04th 2015
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Hahaha. I was finna be like I ain't never seen it but then...
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I'm under the strong impression I've seen at least part of this before.
Apr 04th 2015
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Well, I see where Lee Daniels learned his gratuitous use of traumatic ch...
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Oh. Okay.
Apr 05th 2015
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all these camera angles to make Jada look taller tho
Apr 05th 2015
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This is nice so far. About the worst thing I can say is that some of the...
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Any comments on Bokeem?
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Bokeem is at a 12 where everyone else is on no more than 9.
Apr 05th 2015
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Oh, those accents are more than iffy. They're fringing horrible.
Apr 05th 2015
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a little on the iffy side??
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      I pulled my punch a bit on that comment.
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           LMAO!!
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                #TTK LOL
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NOPE. DEFINITELY never seen this before.
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are we about to get a truncated Negro remake of Reservoir Dogs?
Apr 05th 2015
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This shit is sad as all hell man
Apr 05th 2015
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So, I just went traipsing over the Internet *heavy spoilers abound*
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Kinda
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See now...
Apr 05th 2015
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      RE: See now...
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Lisa...Nicole...Carson...
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'nuff said
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I hate she's dealt with mental health issues
Apr 06th 2015
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so many actors suffer from this shit...
Apr 06th 2015
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she's ALL i think about when someone mentions this movie
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Moreover he actually put the tray up underneath them
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Me and her were in the NYC Black Rock scene in the early 90's
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YOOO SEEN WAT I DEED TO DEM NIGGAZ DOWNSTAIRZ??
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He's like a child demon.
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huge huge side note that simply broke my heart
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b.Touch
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1. "He got Black Moses on the wall!!"
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2. "Hahaha. I was finna be like I ain't never seen it but then..."
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I remembered and looked it up to see who was in it. I saw the beginning of it back in the days. It was an unclear bootleg I think so I didn't see the whole thing. Saw the tail end of it hmmm....maybe 6 months to a year ago.

  

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b.Touch
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3. "I'm under the strong impression I've seen at least part of this before."
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It feels very familiar.

  

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b.Touch
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4. "Well, I see where Lee Daniels learned his gratuitous use of traumatic ch..."
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flashbacks from...

Unless what is clearly set up to be happening in that first flashback is revealed to be a twist of some sort, it's not needed thrice within a twenty minute stretch.

  

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b.Touch
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9. "Oh. Okay."
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b.Touch
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5. "all these camera angles to make Jada look taller tho"
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b.Touch
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6. "This is nice so far. About the worst thing I can say is that some of the..."
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accents are a little on the iffy side.

  

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14. "Any comments on Bokeem?"
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b.Touch
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15. "Bokeem is at a 12 where everyone else is on no more than 9."
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He ain't awful, at all, but he could have perhaps been adjusted down just a smidge so that the tone of his scenes doesn't so sharply contrast the rest of the film (the scenes are already going to contrast by the sheer nature of their content and intent; no need for them to appear to have been culled from two separate movies mashed together).

This is nitpicking, though. This isn't early Tyler Perry levels of atonality.

  

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16. "Oh, those accents are more than iffy. They're fringing horrible. "
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Payne's bothers me the most, b/c literally no one from the 5th ward would talk like that. It was caricature of a southern accent that it took me all the way out of the movie.

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24. "a little on the iffy side?? "
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>accents are a little on the iffy side.

they are terrible. all the portrayals of houston are pretty bad.....and I haven't even been to there.

  

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27. "I pulled my punch a bit on that comment."
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I was actually gonna wait to try & listen to people from Houston other than Beyonce and do comparisons before I declared the accents truly awful.

I'm not well-traveled enough to know better. So I let y'all tell it lol.

  

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30. "LMAO!! "
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>I'm not well-traveled enough to know better. So I let y'all
>tell it lol.

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31. "#TTK LOL"
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7. "NOPE. DEFINITELY never seen this before."
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*clutches pearls*

  

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b.Touch
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8. "are we about to get a truncated Negro remake of Reservoir Dogs?"
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10. "This shit is sad as all hell man"
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11. "So, I just went traipsing over the Internet *heavy spoilers abound*"
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First of all, whoever wrote the nYT review for this picture has not a hopeful bone in his body, questioning the idea that a girl like Lyric could exist outside of a film. Lyric is the proverbial diamond in the rough: she's the one who's destined to make it out...

...yeah, until she doesn't.

So, there's a thread a good strong six pages deep on the IMDb page for this film arguing over whether Lyric lives at the end of the film. I thought it was clear as shit that she was shot dead, that Jason carried her dead body downstairs slowly in true tragidrama style (instead of administering CPR to the clearly-not-breathing woman if he thought she was alive)...

...and remember what the very first word in this film is: "Ghosts". Seen as Jason is sitting on that bus out of town, alone. Lyric's on the bus with him at the end in his mind, as he's looking out the window watching his father, his brother, and a younger version of himself in the field with the irrigation plane overhead.

Should Doug McHenry have shot the scene in double-exposure so people would get it?

Addendum: This is West Side Story/Romeo and Juliet with no singing. Or tights.

  

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17. "Kinda"
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>Addendum: This is West Side Story/Romeo and Juliet with no
>singing. Or tights.


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18. "See now..."
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I thought the opening sequence was just tight on him, so you wouldn't know the end. And at the end, he is leaving with her and she has a bandage on her arm...where she was shot. If she was dead, wouldn't she still be the way he always saw her, no bandage? who images their love with flaws?

  

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19. "RE: See now..."
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>I thought the opening sequence was just tight on him, so you
>wouldn't know the end. And at the end, he is leaving with her
>and she has a bandage on her arm...where she was shot. If she
>was dead, wouldn't she still be the way he always saw her, no
>bandage? who images their love with flaws?

It's not that tight (I was watching in HD. "Jason's Lyric" was very very likely shot open-matte, but a widescreen copy of an open-matte film still gives a little extra sliver of left and right to the frame.

I say all that to say, the other chair is clearly empty at the beginning of the film.

Some people imagine their love with flaws, if they learn to accept those flaws. Moreover, she was shot point-blank in the chest (through the right lung and likely hitting major veins as well), not the arm - that's where the bandage on the not-really-there Lyric is.

Add to that all the thematic symbolism in having Lyric die - the Romeo & Juliet connection (well, West Side Story at least ,because Jason lives), how Joshua shoots Lyric accidentally, just like how Jason shot Maddog accidentally. As I understand it, the shooting script is quite explicit in that Lyric is shot dead.

  

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12. "Lisa...Nicole...Carson..."
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13. "'nuff said"
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22. "I hate she's dealt with mental health issues"
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25. "so many actors suffer from this shit..."
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23. "she's ALL i think about when someone mentions this movie"
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LOL didn't Eddie Griffin;s character tell her to put her titties on his lunch tray?? LOL

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26. "Moreover he actually put the tray up underneath them"
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and Carson's character immediately declared that she was on her break and left.

  

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28. "Me and her were in the NYC Black Rock scene in the early 90's"
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was up close at a show her band Mascara did once.

  

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20. "YOOO SEEN WAT I DEED TO DEM NIGGAZ DOWNSTAIRZ??"
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21. "He's like a child demon."
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29. "huge huge side note that simply broke my heart "
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the love scene with Jada is a body double.. I was so geeked to have seen her titties and later found out it wasn't her... I was even more hurt to rewatch after finding out and seeing that it clearly wasn't her...

Lisa Nicole Carson was helpful in healing those wounds.


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