"Assad is going off like 2Pac (Hit em up) on 60 Minutes right now" Sun Mar-29-15 06:37 PM by PimpTrickGangstaClik
I've never seen an head of state talk so candidly about other leaders and countries like this. Talking trash about Saudi Arabia (basically said Saudi, ISIS, and Al-Queda are one in the same), Turkey (the president is a Muslim Brotherhood fanatic, thinks he is a sultan), the US.
This Middle East stuff is so confusing. I can't figure our who is rolling with who
GriftyMcgrift Member since May 22nd 2002 20414 posts
Sun Mar-29-15 06:46 PM
1. "in the simplest terms, its sunni vs shiite" In response to Reply # 0 Sun Mar-29-15 06:49 PM by GriftyMcgrift
Iran is the largest Shiite population. They have reputation for funding all these extremeist/rebel shia groups in other countries.
Russia backs Iran, Syria at this point people see as a puppet of Iran but it may actually be more of a Russian puppet. but the idea to take away from it is russia + iran vs US + Saudis
Saudia Arabia is the main Sunni player, the US backs the Saudis
you can kinda take it from there
The conspiracy is that they each use their "extremist" counter parts to do their bidding
so hamas, the houthi in yemen are all shiite groups = backed by iran
al qaeda, ISIS etc.. are all sunni(extreme branches of sunni but still sunni) backed by the Saudis(and Kuwaitis)
Its more nuanced in that but once you start identifying the players and who backs who it is a little clearer.
14. "RE: Hamas" In response to Reply # 1 Mon Mar-30-15 01:16 PM by bentagain
I really have a HUGE issue with the smearing that continues against HAMAS
today's Hamas is a democratically elected party
the continued framing of them as terrorists is not only outdated
but an immediate bullshit indicator, IMO
obvioulsy, they simply aren't the controlling party YOU wanted (YOU = Bibi and those running with the narrative that they are under attack from Hamas 'rockets')
Not as enlightening as I had hoped. He's got nothing to lose so I'm not surprised he rightfully called out Saudi and Turkey. However he's deluded for thinking he's the righteous one.
10. "That's why I think any US involve in the region is bound to fail. " In response to Reply # 0
Cause all we are doing is just picking sides. When I was in grade school we use to be taught that the difference between Shites and Sunnis was that the Sunnis were the more moderate group. I guess that changed by 9/11.
If you try to pick sides between Sunni and Shites like the US is trying to do you will ultimately fail and motivate the extremist on the other end.
The goal should be empower moderates across religious lines.
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12. "RE: Assad is going off like 2Pac (Hit em up) on 60 Minutes right now" In response to Reply # 0
There are two sad facts about that interview:
The fact that most US citizens will diss-miss his commentaries as "insane"- "US support terrorism" in Syria is a fact by arming rebels. John McCain posed with some.
US want "followers" through isolation policies. Absolutely
Turkey has allowed foreign terrorists, I meant foreign fighters into Syria.
The House of Saud need be a regional bully continuously fail. Wahhabi originates, funded and supported in SA. Almost all 911 attackers can from the house Saud built.
-The SAD reality is that as long Sunni & Shia are fighting all arm dealers in the world win: Russia, USA, Britain, France...
I wish Muslim can fix that little 1300 inheritance issue