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PimpTrickGangstaClik
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"Assad is going off like 2Pac (Hit em up) on 60 Minutes right now"
Sun Mar-29-15 06:37 PM by PimpTrickGangstaClik

          

I've never seen an head of state talk so candidly about other leaders and countries like this.
Talking trash about Saudi Arabia (basically said Saudi, ISIS, and Al-Queda are one in the same), Turkey (the president is a Muslim Brotherhood fanatic, thinks he is a sultan), the US.

This Middle East stuff is so confusing. I can't figure our who is rolling with who

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in the simplest terms, its sunni vs shiite
Mar 29th 2015
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hamas is not a shiite group at all. they "get along" with hezbollah
Mar 29th 2015
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shit sorry i get hezbollah and hamas confused
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RE: Hamas
Mar 30th 2015
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Lol. Can't wait to watch this
Mar 29th 2015
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link-
Mar 29th 2015
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      Thanks
Mar 30th 2015
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I thought he held his own.
Mar 30th 2015
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updated diagram of geopolitical relationships in ME
Mar 30th 2015
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is it difficult for shiites and sunnis to find common ground
Mar 30th 2015
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That's why I think any US involve in the region is bound to fail.
Mar 30th 2015
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Riveting shit
Mar 30th 2015
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RE: Assad is going off like 2Pac (Hit em up) on 60 Minutes right now
Mar 30th 2015
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^^^ I only caught part of it, I think Charlie said the entirety airs on ...
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GriftyMcgrift
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Sun Mar-29-15 06:46 PM

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1. "in the simplest terms, its sunni vs shiite"
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Sun Mar-29-15 06:49 PM by GriftyMcgrift

  

          

Iran is the largest Shiite population. They have reputation for funding all these extremeist/rebel shia groups in other countries.


Russia backs Iran, Syria at this point people see as a puppet of Iran but it may actually be more of a Russian puppet. but the idea to take away from it is russia + iran vs US + Saudis



Saudia Arabia is the main Sunni player, the US backs the Saudis



you can kinda take it from there


The conspiracy is that they each use their "extremist" counter parts to do their bidding


so hamas, the houthi in yemen are all shiite groups = backed by iran

al qaeda, ISIS etc.. are all sunni(extreme branches of sunni but still sunni) backed by the Saudis(and Kuwaitis)


Its more nuanced in that but once you start identifying the players and who backs who it is a little clearer.


  

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2. "hamas is not a shiite group at all. they "get along" with hezbollah"
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>so hamas, the houthi in yemen are all shiite groups = backed
>by iran

but that's about it.



>al qaeda, ISIS etc.. are all sunni(extreme branches of sunni
>but still sunni) backed by the Saudis(and Kuwaitis)

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GriftyMcgrift
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3. "shit sorry i get hezbollah and hamas confused"
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bentagain
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14. "RE: Hamas"
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Mon Mar-30-15 01:16 PM by bentagain

  

          

I really have a HUGE issue with the smearing that continues against HAMAS

today's Hamas is a democratically elected party

the continued framing of them as terrorists is not only outdated

but an immediate bullshit indicator, IMO

obvioulsy, they simply aren't the controlling party YOU wanted (YOU = Bibi and those running with the narrative that they are under attack from Hamas 'rockets')

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dafriquan
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4. "Lol. Can't wait to watch this"
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Wish there was a streaming link.

  

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5. "link-"
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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/syria-president-bashar-al-assad-60-minutes-charlie-rose/

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dafriquan
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7. "Thanks"
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Not as enlightening as I had hoped.
He's got nothing to lose so I'm not surprised he rightfully called out Saudi and Turkey.
However he's deluded for thinking he's the righteous one.

  

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6. "I thought he held his own."
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he's still an megalomanaical despot, but everything he said about everyone who has their fingers in the middle east pie, is actual factual.

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husam
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8. "updated diagram of geopolitical relationships in ME"
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https://twitter.com/KarlreMarks/status/581067223743238144

  

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blkprinceMD05
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9. "is it difficult for shiites and sunnis to find common ground"
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Are the combatants and agitators in the minority or do most Sunnis not fuck with Shiites at all?

I wondered this also about Catholics vs Protestants in Ireland and such so this is not just Islam specific

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10. "That's why I think any US involve in the region is bound to fail. "
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Cause all we are doing is just picking sides. When I was in grade school we use to be taught that the difference between Shites and Sunnis was that the Sunnis were the more moderate group. I guess that changed by 9/11.

If you try to pick sides between Sunni and Shites like the US is trying to do you will ultimately fail and motivate the extremist on the other end.

The goal should be empower moderates across religious lines.


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Amritsar
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11. "Riveting shit"
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TherEs th news


And there is 60 minutes. Levels

  

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12. "RE: Assad is going off like 2Pac (Hit em up) on 60 Minutes right now"
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There are two sad facts about that interview:

The fact that most US citizens will diss-miss his commentaries as "insane"- "US support terrorism" in Syria is a fact by arming rebels. John McCain posed with some.

US want "followers" through isolation policies. Absolutely

Turkey has allowed foreign terrorists, I meant foreign fighters into Syria.


The House of Saud need be a regional bully continuously fail. Wahhabi originates, funded and supported in SA. Almost all 911 attackers can from the house Saud built.

-The SAD reality is that as long Sunni & Shia are fighting all arm dealers in the world win: Russia, USA, Britain, France...

I wish Muslim can fix that little 1300 inheritance issue

  

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13. "^^^ I only caught part of it, I think Charlie said the entirety airs on ..."
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Mon Mar-30-15 01:11 PM by bentagain

  

          

PBS tonight, so I'll be checking for it

but yeah, that was my impression as well

mouth agape, he's really saying this...etc...

and honestly, I respect it

especially after watching Boehner on CNN sunday morning just lie as easy as he breathes

the part where Charlie says something like...indebted

and Assad says...how do you mean

and to be honest, Charlie was talking real deliberate...do you feel you owe anything...

record scracth

Assad...yes I know what it means...

that exchange was all types of hilarity

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