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Errol Walton Barrow
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"This new Rhianna song is ratchet, derivative, and good somehow."


  

          

The beat we've all heard before, but it's her voice that I like about it, full of personality. She really is committing to this Bajan Mae West thing and she's good at it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/26/rihanna-bitch-better-have-my-money_n_6943322.html?utm_hp_ref=entertainment&ir=Entertainment

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done bout had my fill of R&B/Pop stars trying to prove how hard they are...
Mar 26th 2015
1
Yeah I could use more tenderness in r&b too
Mar 26th 2015
3
i feel like this was supposed to be a beyonce song
Mar 26th 2015
2
I could see that for real, but Bey wouldn't have had that hopped up
Mar 26th 2015
4
      i think sometimes songs are made specifically for a certain pop star
Mar 26th 2015
8
      Rihanna gets them made for her.
Mar 26th 2015
35
           word.
Mar 26th 2015
36
      Make no mistake !!!!
Mar 26th 2015
10
           RE: Make no mistake !!!!
Mar 26th 2015
13
I LOVE IT!
Mar 26th 2015
5
I couldn't listen to more than 15 seconds of that
Mar 26th 2015
6
she is the bad girl of R&B/Pop with predictable results
Mar 26th 2015
7
lol shuttup
Mar 26th 2015
9
^^^I like it and so far she's batting a .100% - she is the one pop star
Mar 26th 2015
11
i'm not impressed.
Mar 26th 2015
12
RE: This new Rhianna song is ratchet, derivative, and good somehow.
Mar 26th 2015
14
none of that matters.
Mar 26th 2015
15
      Hmm, I feel like it's not always about lanes being taken, but
Mar 26th 2015
16
      sure.
Mar 26th 2015
17
      I was basically in agreeance with you...it's way too early to say
Mar 26th 2015
19
           cool.
Mar 26th 2015
21
           You are weird.
Mar 26th 2015
46
                I want to be less weird for you, bro.
Mar 27th 2015
56
                     Sooooo many better things than what you did say.
Mar 27th 2015
58
           RE: I was basically in agreeance with you...it's way too early to say
Mar 26th 2015
26
      RE: Hmm, I feel like it's not always about lanes being taken, but
Mar 26th 2015
22
      I figured it was more than just one team doing those type songs
Mar 26th 2015
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           RE: I figured it was more than just one team doing those type songs
Mar 26th 2015
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           Damn, yeah R&B is a whole different game
Mar 26th 2015
30
                RE: Damn, yeah R&B is a whole different game
Mar 26th 2015
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                saw Ty$ had a backing vocal credit on Lupe's latest.
Mar 26th 2015
48
           RE: I figured it was more than just one team doing those type songs
Mar 28th 2015
61
      chainz just played his full hand.
Mar 26th 2015
37
           RE: chainz just played his full hand.
Mar 26th 2015
45
      RE: none of that matters.
Mar 26th 2015
18
           my point stands.
Mar 26th 2015
20
                RE: my point stands.
Mar 26th 2015
23
                     Hi Five skidded off the road yrs ago.
Mar 26th 2015
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                          RE: Hi Five skidded off the road yrs ago.
Mar 26th 2015
27
That was awful.
Mar 26th 2015
29
RE: That was awful.
Mar 27th 2015
59
#EyeBrowKilla went in. It's got Trav Scott DNA all over it.
Mar 26th 2015
32
why people always gotta A&R the fuck outta shit?
Mar 26th 2015
33
RE: why people always gotta A&R the fuck outta shit?
Mar 26th 2015
34
well that just makes me feel weird.
Mar 26th 2015
42
its a really annoying and weird thing ppl do here
Mar 26th 2015
38
RE: its a really annoying and weird thing ppl do here
Mar 26th 2015
40
dude's a fucking moron.
Mar 27th 2015
60
right. it's weird that ppl discuss stuff.
Mar 26th 2015
44
I like both sides of the discussion
Mar 26th 2015
39
      RE: I like both sides of the discussion
Mar 26th 2015
41
      true. don't want to derail your post
Mar 26th 2015
43
sounded real rough to me.
Mar 26th 2015
47
Is there a hacker that could make this happen?
Mar 26th 2015
51
It's no Birthday Cake...but it works. n/m
Mar 26th 2015
49
It's a hit
Mar 26th 2015
50
yeah the beat sounds like so many other songs
Mar 26th 2015
52
Oh! And *waves!*
Mar 26th 2015
53
I like it. The Mrs. and I go hard when it comes on in the car
Mar 28th 2015
62
      Ha!
Mar 28th 2015
63
Sounds horrible to me, but has the right catch phrases to be a hit.
Mar 26th 2015
54
This isn't CDQ, is it?
Mar 27th 2015
55
yeah sounds like a radio rip
Mar 27th 2015
57

FLUIDJ
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1. "done bout had my fill of R&B/Pop stars trying to prove how hard they are..."
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Errol Walton Barrow
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3. "Yeah I could use more tenderness in r&b too"
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but I do believe her when she says she got somebody wife in her car seat. It's still interesting and rebellious to me.

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2. "i feel like this was supposed to be a beyonce song"
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i like it though.

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4. "I could see that for real, but Bey wouldn't have had that hopped up"
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voice, that wild-eyed braggadoccio.

I wonder though who gets first look at some of these songs. Was "Dark Horse" offered to Katy Perry first, or did someone pass on it?

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8. "i think sometimes songs are made specifically for a certain pop star"
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and other times its like you said somebody passes it up and it winds up onn someone else's album

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35. "Rihanna gets them made for her."
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Def Jam invites a bunch of different producers & writers to LA to make records for her, she chooses what she likes and re-records them. I assume the Kanye records are a little different tho.

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36. "word."
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Thu Mar-26-15 05:49 PM by SHAstayhighalways

  

          

kanye is a producer so he's the guy getting people together to make songs with him i believe.
i doubt people submit songs to him. maybe verses or hooks even beats but you can tell he's the driving force behind the ideas that become the final product of the song.

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10. "Make no mistake !!!!"
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Ri Ri is at the top of the list to get these Ratchet songs


After her they got to the B list.... Miley,
K michelle Keisha Cole... etc

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13. "RE: Make no mistake !!!!"
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>Ri Ri is at the top of the list to get these Ratchet songs
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>After her they got to the B list.... Miley,
>K michelle Keisha Cole... etc


Miley? B-List?


lol...nah...

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5. "I LOVE IT!"
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Fuck your fort!

  

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6. "I couldn't listen to more than 15 seconds of that"
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I just don't believe her, it sounds forced.

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7. "she is the bad girl of R&B/Pop with predictable results"
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the fact remains she can't sing and really the key is the production which covers her limited range, yet her stuff is catchy and it works.

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9. "lol shuttup"
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11. "^^^I like it and so far she's batting a .100% - she is the one pop star"
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Thu Mar-26-15 03:03 PM by vee-lover

  

          

whose *new* music I look forward to I hearing when it debuts...

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12. "i'm not impressed."
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it's just a'ight.

fuck you.

  

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14. "RE: This new Rhianna song is ratchet, derivative, and good somehow."
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That year and some change she took off could hurt her... in THIS space anyway

Beyonce & Nicki have moved into her lane something tough when it comes to these kinda club songs... it's crowded

I liked the direction Four Five Seconds was going so we'll see what else is in the chamber

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15. "none of that matters."
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enough ppl dig Rihanna enough that this song could hit w/o regard for who was doing what a few months ago.

all Rihanna has to do is come w/something hot enough and the ppl will flock to it. there's not really such a thing as 'lanes being crowded' or whatever. it doesn't work that way.

fuck you.

  

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16. "Hmm, I feel like it's not always about lanes being taken, but"
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more about certain artists losing their touch in a lane.

Best example is 2 Chainz...feels like he hasn't made a hit, or series of hits, in years. Or how Rae Sremmurd is basically an updated Travis Porter, while Travis can't make a hit to save their life in that lane.

I almost said Future...before Commas, he didn't have a banger for a while, but a LOT of ATL rappers used his style in that time.

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17. "sure."
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fuck you.

  

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19. "I was basically in agreeance with you...it's way too early to say"
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Rihanna lost her touch on that side. With other artists, I don't think the lane was necessarily stolen/hijacked as much as them just not making songs as good as they did before.

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21. "cool."
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fuck you.

  

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46. "You are weird."
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56. "I want to be less weird for you, bro."
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Show me how to post. What should I have said there?

fuck you.

  

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58. "Sooooo many better things than what you did say."
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>Show me how to post. What should I have said there?

Predicted response: "ok."

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26. "RE: I was basically in agreeance with you...it's way too early to say"
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Rihanna will be fine.. in the end.. she is pretty damn versatile..

But Rihanna had a clear path with the last album.. where records like Pour It Up, Cockiness, Cake ruled the land..

Those are never her biggest records though

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22. "RE: Hmm, I feel like it's not always about lanes being taken, but"
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Like I said above..

Difference is... there is a finite amount of writers who make these "hits" in this space..

The hits go to whose on top.. and if you've taken some time off your hits went to someone else..

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24. "I figured it was more than just one team doing those type songs"
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I didn't know if it was Beyonce's own team giving her Rihanna-esque songs like "Bow down" or if it was actually Riahnna's team.

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28. "RE: I figured it was more than just one team doing those type songs"
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these type songs...

Peep credits.. It's usually The Dream.. Rock City... Ty Dolla sign is creeping his way in..

So nah not just a single team but these cats are always working on THESE songs.. for every 25 written there is 1 SMASH.. and if there are 3 artists competing for them.. it's going to the biggest one (at the time)

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30. "Damn, yeah R&B is a whole different game"
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It's wild how Ty is in there now. He actually doesn't even like making a lot of the music he makes, but he knows it works and he's great at it

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31. "RE: Damn, yeah R&B is a whole different game"
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LA has been important to this.. Like how ATL used to be during Lil John era..

Cuz there are so many cats out here working.. It is incredibly easy to organize writing camps..

This is how everything that isnt (non radio) EDM or certain types of Hip Hop works though..

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48. "saw Ty$ had a backing vocal credit on Lupe's latest."
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I was like, damn, never saw that one coming.


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61. "RE: I figured it was more than just one team doing those type songs"
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^^^^^^^

Beyonce did sound A LOT like Rihanna on her last self titled album. I just couldn't put my finger on it. Her sound was harder- and so was her image compared to her last somewhat subtle albums. Jay-Z also influenced her and hardened her sound.
Also, a lot of R&B artists are taking up the same lane turning to trap music. This is (sadly) the new direction and state of R&B. IMO.

  

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37. "chainz just played his full hand."
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his delivery is no longer clever, catchy or effortless.

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45. "RE: chainz just played his full hand."
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I think Chainz just went for it...

like dude was mid thirties when he got the ball... He did 100 guest verses in a year..

that's more than peoples who careers..

not to mention is Talk Dirty w/ Jason Derulo was number 1 in multiple countries and #3 here last year (and 4X platinum)... The only rapper on a bigger record was Juicy J..

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18. "RE: none of that matters."
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A hit is a hit...

I agree...

But the lane exists because everyone uses the same producers and writers...

so yes Rock City could write Rihanna a hit.. but what if they already gave it to Bey.. Or Nicki..

It's not like Rihanna is writing songs on guitar on the island and reemerging.. she relies on the same cast of characters

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20. "my point stands."
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fuck you.

  

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23. "RE: my point stands."
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Hi Five

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25. "Hi Five skidded off the road yrs ago."
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they're not in anyone's lane.

fuck you.

  

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27. "RE: Hi Five skidded off the road yrs ago."
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Hard to geeetttt

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29. "That was awful."
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59. "RE: That was awful."
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Yep. I have no idea what that was supposed to be.

  

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32. "#EyeBrowKilla went in. It's got Trav Scott DNA all over it."
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I likes.

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33. "why people always gotta A&R the fuck outta shit?"
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do you like the song or nah? sheesh
niggas discussing demographics and metrics in a thread about a new damn song.

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34. "RE: why people always gotta A&R the fuck outta shit?"
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Only speaking for myself.. but I am not here to be a pure fan really.. I been in this industry almost 10 yrs..

The whole point of okp (for me) is to dissect some shit or dig deeper than just surface answers..

But... Yea I think the song is solid.. We'll see when I drop it this weekend what it do

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42. "well that just makes me feel weird."
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38. " its a really annoying and weird thing ppl do here"
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but that blurred lines post proved its a lot of crazy music weirdos here

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40. "RE: its a really annoying and weird thing ppl do here"
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>but that blurred lines post proved its a lot of crazy music
>weirdos here


Man...cut this silly shit out dog...lol

U comparing people breaking down a Turnt up, just add water, party record by Rihanna to people breaking down the LEGAL ramifications of a ruling that was being broken down by everyone from Time Magazine to Billboard...? Like for real?

Those two subjects have nothing to do with one another...


U sounded like a trollin', wink-wink Contrarian in that thread and u sound like one now....

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60. "dude's a fucking moron."
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44. "right. it's weird that ppl discuss stuff."
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fuck you.

  

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39. "I like both sides of the discussion"
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But I DO want everyone to say whether they like it or not, and after that, whether they think it will make noise or be popular.

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41. "RE: I like both sides of the discussion"
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Most people that come to THIS site do....

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43. "true. don't want to derail your post"
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if thats the desired result you got her done
lol

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47. "sounded real rough to me."
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I'd prefer it if every radio station in the country accidentally loaded AMG's original into their programming feeds.


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51. "Is there a hacker that could make this happen?"
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>I'd prefer it if every radio station in the country
>accidentally loaded AMG's original into their programming
>feeds.
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>http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
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49. "It's no Birthday Cake...but it works. n/m"
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phemom's the name, all-star writer/
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50. "It's a hit"
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Sounds like it will go well with the Beyoncé song
I wouldn't be able to tell the difference audibly frankly
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52. "yeah the beat sounds like so many other songs"
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but this one will go over really well, especially at one o clock in some club when everyone got a buzz on.

I hope she doesn't have a whole album of this stuff though.

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53. "Oh! And *waves!*"
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Give the missus a hug!

I miss you guys
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62. "I like it. The Mrs. and I go hard when it comes on in the car"
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lol

peace

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63. "Ha!"
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Say hi to the missus for me
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54. "Sounds horrible to me, but has the right catch phrases to be a hit."
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Plus it's by Rihanna, so it'll have the right marketing push and repeated plays to "grow"
on people and have others liking it just to feel part of the "cool" crowd.

Stuff like this is just an exercise in yelling the right catch phrases the right way, imo.
I have no problem with catch phrases being used to push or sell a record. It's been
done for probably a 100 yrs at this point, but...
There's just no redeeming value in the song for me to play it again. Even the melody is wack.
Dem catch phrases tho + dem repeated plays + dem sheep = success
Not even hating on the formula. If it works for you and ppl fall for it, if there is a "problem",
it's with the people who fall for it. More power to you.




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55. "This isn't CDQ, is it?"
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Sounded a bit squeezed and thin on my monitors.
I like to hear the dynamics in these type of songs.
Cause lets face it, the producers/engineers are doing most of the heavy lifting.

It could be a hit but she's had better in this same vein.

I'm starting to understand how to put these type of tracks together now. Makes me wanna try my hands on it now. The first generation of trap /drill was too amateur but ths newer layered stuff is sonically interesting to me especially as a pop track.

  

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57. "yeah sounds like a radio rip"
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wounder how it would sound in a full set up, hadn't thought of that.

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