for my USC is OBVIOUSLY a better school then Howard! types
I will grant that in the advanced sciences or fields, your typical PWI has more money & facilities to really expand the knowledge in the field, so serious students in the graduate or PHD courses would go to that institution rather than the best of the HBCUs. i will grant that.
the shit they are learning in Freshman English 101 @ Harvard is of the same quality and caliber & level as the shit being taught in its equivalent @ Howard or SpelHouse.
no Harvard isnt better than Howard & idgaf what us news & world reports rankings say.
in fact for obvious reasons I submit that Howard is clearly the better school esp for your typical lost in the sauce trying to figure out their life ass teenger of the Black persuasion.
now. talk amongst yourselves. i have weights to lift.
5. "I'll give you "More" as in pure numbers" In response to Reply # 4 Thu Mar-26-15 02:15 PM by Buddy_Gilapagos
I think the smartest black people if given the opportunity, overwhelmingly go to the 3 or 4 US News Report Top schools in the country cause they can.
Because Howard has a bigger black population than harvard, I'll give you that there are more smart black people at Howard.
In grad school there were probably just as many black people from HBCUs as the Ivys...But it was a PWI Grad School.
>NO. NO the "smartest" Black people arent @ Harvard > >there are some really driven hard working people @ harvard of >all races & cultures. > >there are more driven hard working Black people...@ Howard. > >there are more...and its a more welcoming yet just as >challenging environment. > >nope! > >rejecting your logic, sir. > > >does it really matter? > >wonder what bin's doing? >http://i.imgur.com/phECCMp.jpg
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7. "I think this concept has been taken a little too far" In response to Reply # 0
There are differences betwen undergrad institutions. The concepts are the same and IF YOU DO WELL, your choice of school will have little impact on your opportunities.
But what it takes to do well can be very different between schools. The workload, available resources and quality of students can be very different.
I mean, I got an engineering degree from MD and I've known or met engineering students at several HBCU's
I'd say FAMU's engineering education was on par with MD (but FAMU's engineering school is FSU). NC A&T was on par.
Howard, in my opinion, was not. The people I saw that transferred in said they were doing WAY more work at MD than they ever had to do at Howard. My cousin is there with a 3.8 and I know he's not getting as deep as I did at Maryland.
If you did really well at both, you could still get into just about any grad program you wanted, but I feel you'd be better prepared coming out of MD or any other school that has a rigourous engineering program.
9. "i have family who graduated from lower ranked schools" In response to Reply # 7
and i am confident saying they didn't receive as rigorous education as i received at my alma mater. i have a cousin who graduated from a local STL university and sent me her resume to edit as she applied for jobs. i wanted to cry - the shit read like it was written by someone w/a 10th grade education. i didn't know how to fix it w/o completely rewriting it. b/c everything in it was wrong. everything.
meanwhile i learned how to prepare a resume at my alma mater. the right way. i ended up giving her some of the material i had from my school and letting her re-do the thing herself.
but that's just one example - a friend is currently finishing his undergrad degree at a local Chicago institution and he complains about the students in his classes. mainly he says they're just not as smart as the students at the Big 10 school where he started his undergrad education.
these are just a couple of examples. i don't usually get involved in arguments that all college education is the same. i just let ppl believe that if they want.
14. "Yeah... to Bin's point though, USC isn't necessarily better than Howard" In response to Reply # 9
There may be some programs at Howard that are on par or better than USC's.
The social side is also important. We had a lot of black students at my school but the school generally wasn't very supportive of students, minorities in particular.
I feel like the guys at HBCU's generally had alot more camaraderie and their administrations wanted to see them succeed. At mine, the professors generally would rather be doing research than teaching and you were on your own to find a support network.
A completed degree is still more valuable than an incomplete one so you have to be real about what you need to get to the finish line.
16. "probably. but i dunno." In response to Reply # 14
>There may be some programs at Howard that are on par or >better than USC's.
>The social side is also important. We had a lot of black >students at my school but the school generally wasn't very >supportive of students, minorities in particular.
the school was pretty supportive of our social lives in the 1st yr or so. we had lots of planned but not forced social activities that gave us a chance to bond w/our peers. i made friends i still have today.
>I feel like the guys at HBCU's generally had alot more >camaraderie and their administrations wanted to see them >succeed. At mine, the professors generally would rather be >doing research than teaching and you were on your own to find >a support network.
the professors at my school were very accessible.
>A completed degree is still more valuable than an incomplete >one so you have to be real about what you need to get to the >finish line.
23. "i dont know about hbcu's" In response to Reply # 0 Fri Mar-27-15 11:15 AM by akon
i do wish i had attended one, sometimes
but with regards to the us rankings, yea i dont believe that hype im at the #1 school of PH and half the time (well, 90% of the time) i wish id have gone to a different school/ lower ranked school i was recently looking at a school in western michigan (pause) that has the program i wish i were in but my friends are on some, wait what? are you crazy? i dont feel like the education im getting here is any better than one i would've gotten at... actually, this education feels sub par to what i got from my masters and with 100% more unnecessary stress at this stage, i dont need the name recognition
my best educational experience was at unc-chapel i will always be a tarheel. went to an ivy for my masters- actually have nothing but good things to say about the program definitely prepared me for what i needed to do i think the networking is the most important gain though - these loans are no joke
now, *this* school? i doubt i will ever rep this school. shit. i met a guy that was considering transferring back to a hbcu... i definitely understand.
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