http://www.cbsnews.com/news/iraq-christians-persecuted-by-isis-60-minutes/

^ stories like this are why i throw a screwface at most modern American Xtians who claim they're persecuted when ppl poke fun at their faith.

that ain't faith-based persecution. being exiled from your homeland b/c of your faith is faith-based persecution.

fuck you.

Literally, the entire planet will take joy in their destruction, has there ever been an enemy/villain as powerful as they are? in terms of the reactions they draw?

~Experience is the currency of the soul.

fuck you.

ancient city.

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democracies make about oppression of women. That it's in the developing and third world that women are really persecuted, not in the US and Western Europe.

we learned it doesn't work that way over the last decade with this homophobia stuff
i'm assuming this is just a dab at case one though

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i would agree that w/the gays my ppl here in the USA are not as tortured as those in Uganda or even Jamaica. that doesn't mean that we don't have our strife here but i can keep it in perspective, i think.

not unlike the way us Blacks in the USA had it better than the black-Africans in South Africa during the 70s/80s/90s when Apartheid was still the law over there but Jim Crow had been defeated here. they had it worse but i wouldn't have claimed we didn't have it bad in our own ways.

so yeah, i can and i am.

nice try though.

fuck you.

define the terms persecution, tortured, and poking fun?

Where do you draw the lines between cool, not cool, hate speech, and persecution?

For the record, I think a lot of Christians throw around the "persecution" word far too easily, but I don't see So What showing up saying "get a life gay ppl, cats are just poking fun at you, its not like you're being kicked out of your homes"

What I've found is even when religious ppl express love toward homosexual ppl, try their best to be kind, but state their belief that they think it is unhealthy or a problem or a sin, the gay community cries foul and claims persecution over that.

And mind you, I'm not talking about myself, because I personally don't tell people that its a sin.

I'm not sure if this is true, but someone told me in Canada its considered hate speech for a pastor to merely state in church that homosexuality is a sin.

If pig farmers were able to make it a crime for Muslims or Jews to preach in their temples against the sin of eating pork, I'd imagine that would feel like a form of persecution to them.

I know of several gay friendly churches,
with gay members in them,
that have no issues with the gay.

gay christians and straight christians worship together and hang out together and it's fine.

so that can't be a issue the gay community
has uniformly.



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>What I've found is even when religious ppl express love toward
>homosexual ppl, try their best to be kind, but state their
>belief that they think it is unhealthy or a problem or a sin,
>the gay community cries foul and claims persecution over
>that.
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I will say I won't listen to ppl talk at
me about sin as it pertains to the gay.

or the concept of sin, generally.

but that's because I am grown,
and don't have to listen to ppl come at me
with nonsense.

if some christians think that is me
persecuting them, oh well.



I don't know or care about the rest of this.


>And mind you, I'm not talking about myself, because I
>personally don't tell people that its a sin.
>
>I'm not sure if this is true, but someone told me in Canada
>its considered hate speech for a pastor to merely state in
>church that homosexuality is a sin.
>
>If pig farmers were able to make it a crime for Muslims or
>Jews to preach in their temples against the sin of eating
>pork, I'd imagine that would feel like a form of persecution
>to them.

i won't look up stats for how common it is
(hopefully, it's less common than it used to be)
but gay teens do sometimes get kicked out o their homes when they come out to their guardians.

which looks more like persecution
than christians bitching about somebody
some war on christmas.


>For the record, I think a lot of Christians throw around the
>"persecution" word far too easily, but I don't see SoWhat
>showing up saying "get a life gay ppl, cats are just poking
>fun at you, its not like you're being kicked out of your
>homes"
>
>

there is not a national cable news organization that spends a third of it's air time bitching about christian persecution in the USA.

and it's not like that network is popular or anything.

nobody watches fox news.

it's all about case.

we mad.

>i'm assuming this is just a dab at case one though

While being in a position where In God We Trust is on the money and you can't make it into the highest office in the land without saying you have some kind of relationship with Jesus. If there's some epidemic of Christians being paid less money in the workplace than their non-Christian counterparts, do tell.

And people don't try to disguise their atheism the way they do their sexism.

Just IMO though.

>democracies make about oppression of women. That it's in the
>developing and third world that women are really persecuted,
>not in the US and Western Europe.

they do make that argument. it doesn't have the same impact on me b/c i can see how women are persecuted here though the degree differs from that of what's happening in the developing world.

but xtian persecution? i don't see it in the USA at all. at least i don't see it where most of those who cry about it see it.

Warren Jeffs is being persecuted for exercising his faith. he can claim faith-based persecution. but ppl not being able to have a 'Christmas party' at work and having to have a 'Holiday party' instead are not being persecuted for their faith.

fuck you.

Proportionality does matter.

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"And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful." ~ 2 Tim 2:4

I agree.

fuck you.

that has not been exaggerated.




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"And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful." ~ 2 Tim 2:4

And compared to ppl who have been forced from their homes for being Xtian that is not persecution.

fuck you.

That's a bit elitist.

>And compared to ppl who have been forced from their homes for
>being Xtian that is not persecution.


Persecution is not always down with physical force.




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"And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful." ~ 2 Tim 2:4

>That's a bit elitist.

i'm elite so that's be expected.

>Persecution is not always down with physical force.

no, it's not.

fuck you.

>
>>Persecution is not always down with physical force.
>
>no, it's not.

Actually, I'm fine with the definition being widened, as long as those Christians who cry persecution admit they're persecuting gays, women, and, well, anyone they've ever called a nasty name or teased because of a physical attribute.

But no, that wouldn't be recognised, because as the party in the oppressive position of power they can opt to have it both ways. Such is the hypocrisy born of privilege.

Just IMO though.

>>That's a bit elitist.
>
>i'm elite so that's be expected.
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>>Persecution is not always down with physical force.
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>no, it's not.


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"And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful." ~ 2 Tim 2:4

fuck you.

Not T.D. Fakes.

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fuck you.

They basically said "convert or die" and he was like "i have my faith
and you have yours."

That's a level of conviction very few would exhibit in that situation.

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