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GrumpySmurf
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"Naked spring breaker surrounded b men: Her parents must be so proud"


  

          

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-ap-naked-spring-breaker-found-20150322-story.html

  

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Somebody coulda roofied that girl
Mar 23rd 2015
1
doubt it but she was probably drunk.
Mar 23rd 2015
7
Fox had a segment dedicated to this shitty story.
Mar 23rd 2015
2
Ya'll make being white sound magical sometimes
Mar 23rd 2015
3
      It has to be, if you're and you fail in America I dont know what to tell...
Mar 23rd 2015
5
      google naked spring break (NSFW)
Mar 23rd 2015
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      Oh, I know it's out there
Mar 23rd 2015
9
           I went to google this and was met with a wall of T&A
Mar 23rd 2015
11
                it ain't uncommon for black spring breakers either
Mar 23rd 2015
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                     I rather believe the lie...
Mar 23rd 2015
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      the "magic" of whiteness is that your actions are by and large
Mar 23rd 2015
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           ^^^^came in spitting hot facts
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RE: Naked spring breaker surrounded b men: Her parents must be so proud
Mar 23rd 2015
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lets take it a step furthere
Mar 23rd 2015
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      that's an amazing amount of cluelessness
Mar 23rd 2015
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      and/or drunkenness
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      we all post on social media right?
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      RE: lets take it a step furthere
Mar 23rd 2015
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      since cameras are
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This girl can't possibly have parents.
Mar 23rd 2015
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RE: This girl can't possibly have parents.
Mar 23rd 2015
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Spring Break is at the point where its getting out of control
Mar 23rd 2015
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i'm SO DAMN GLAD
Mar 23rd 2015
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      RE: i'm SO DAMN GLAD
Mar 23rd 2015
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They should be. She took a potentially embarassing sitch on the chin.
Mar 23rd 2015
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^^^^^
Mar 23rd 2015
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A bunch of grown men standing around staring at a naked underage
Mar 23rd 2015
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^^^
Mar 23rd 2015
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yeah, that's disgusting
Mar 23rd 2015
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wow at these assumptions
Mar 23rd 2015
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^^sarcasm update available
Mar 23rd 2015
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i know you're trolling but that doesn't read as sarcasm
Mar 23rd 2015
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hello!
Mar 23rd 2015
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you're a man.
Mar 23rd 2015
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      yes so the stakes are lower for me.
Mar 23rd 2015
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           you're right, but mainly, i am concerned for her safety
Mar 23rd 2015
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                none of that has any bearing on the parenting she received.
Mar 23rd 2015
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                     of course it does. come on.
Mar 23rd 2015
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                          but this is impossible to do:
Mar 23rd 2015
45
                               I don't believe that.
Mar 23rd 2015
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                               did your parents educate you on the dangers of doing drugs?
Mar 23rd 2015
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                                    you're over simplifying
Mar 23rd 2015
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                                         yeah cause this is exactly what i said:
Mar 23rd 2015
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                                              you said it's "impossible"
Mar 23rd 2015
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                                                   and followed that up with this:
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                                                        children are going to experiment
Mar 23rd 2015
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                                                             you clearly don't know how parenting works.
Mar 23rd 2015
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                                                                  so you think this girl came from a loving/supportive
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                                                                       dawg, preacher's daughters are especially good for this shit
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                                                                       who says preachers provide the right set of values?
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                                                                       I have no idea what kind of parenting she's had
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                                                                       it's not just about spewing lessons
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                                                                       when I say spewing lessons,
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                                                                       RE: when I say spewing lessons,
Mar 24th 2015
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                                                                       good enough.
Mar 24th 2015
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                                                                       you're the only one saying anyone is saying that.
Mar 24th 2015
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                               exactly.
Mar 23rd 2015
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                                    RE: exactly.
Mar 23rd 2015
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                                    k.
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                                    I apologize if I offended you
Mar 23rd 2015
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                                         It's cool
Mar 23rd 2015
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                                    OMG, just stop, fam. stop.
Mar 23rd 2015
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                                    all of this except the gay part...
Mar 23rd 2015
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you think a 17 year old is an adult?
Mar 23rd 2015
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Can you clarify?
Mar 23rd 2015
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      Ready from #25 down.
Mar 23rd 2015
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           Yeah.. did that. Your position is unclear. Hence, the request.
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                Sorry, I thought I was clear.
Mar 23rd 2015
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You mean like Okayplayers and Bloocollar pic posts?
Mar 23rd 2015
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he posted underage girls with 12 year old looking bodies?
Mar 23rd 2015
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      is that what I said?
Mar 23rd 2015
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           haha no, but that's what Phenom was talkin' about.
Mar 23rd 2015
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it's spring break is the perfect time to be wack
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I guess the real question is this:
Mar 23rd 2015
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it was implied she had a body like a 12 to 14 year old.
Mar 23rd 2015
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      so???
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      sooo.. she looked like she was 12.
Mar 24th 2015
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           I saw the pic of her face... she doesn't look 12 by any stretch.
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      every girl without a big ass is a 12 year old boy on okayplayer
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           Grown women always have a big ass and titties
Mar 23rd 2015
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           nah, but no T&A and a baby face would make me cringe
Mar 24th 2015
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                did you even see her face???
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           who can even see her body though?
Mar 24th 2015
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The disparity in the disparaging is definitely problematic
Mar 23rd 2015
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YT
Mar 23rd 2015
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stop slut shaming in 2015 nm
Mar 23rd 2015
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word
Mar 23rd 2015
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^^^
Mar 23rd 2015
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*gets in this line*
Mar 23rd 2015
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Yep
Mar 23rd 2015
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And just let them set themselves up to be an easy target.
Mar 23rd 2015
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basically
Mar 24th 2015
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shame the predators, not the prey.
Mar 24th 2015
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      no, no, no.... that isn't how any of this works...
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           except these men aren't lions.
Mar 24th 2015
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                men are animals too
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                     men are 'animals' b/c we choose to be and the culture allows it.
Mar 24th 2015
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                     smh... this doesn't help women IMO.
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                          good for you. you formed an opinion.
Mar 24th 2015
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                               that's it? Damn, you gone soft bruh
Mar 24th 2015
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                     wait... wtf???
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                          RE: wait... wtf???
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stop using empty terms where they dont apply
Mar 24th 2015
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Um, wouldn't that pic be child pornography?
Mar 23rd 2015
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depends on the judge, but typically... yeah.
Mar 23rd 2015
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BTW, the girl they interviewed was HAWT.
Mar 23rd 2015
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#facts
Mar 24th 2015
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best part is that they blurred out her sunglasses and not her face.
Mar 23rd 2015
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SPRING BREAK FOREVAH (c) O.G James Franco
Mar 24th 2015
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You can't buy dignity
Mar 24th 2015
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y'all niccas love to argue about anything n/m
Mar 24th 2015
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I disagree
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      haha
Mar 24th 2015
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How the hell did this go plat? lol
Mar 24th 2015
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plato did it
Mar 24th 2015
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      "plat" are the first 4 letters of my name ;)
Mar 24th 2015
116

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1. "Somebody coulda roofied that girl"
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never know

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7. "doubt it but she was probably drunk. "
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2. "Fox had a segment dedicated to this shitty story. "
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17 years old, not in college.

I guess she had the body of a 12 year old.

She said she wasn't aware people were taking photos which means being butt ass naked and booty popping is OK.

..and honestly, at Spring Break it IS considered OK if you are white.

  

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3. "Ya'll make being white sound magical sometimes"
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>..and honestly, at Spring Break it IS considered OK if you are
>white.
>
>


I'd bet she's catching some shit from her classmates or co-workers right now (unless she's already in the adult business somehow).

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5. "It has to be, if you're and you fail in America I dont know what to tell..."
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Mon Mar-23-15 08:36 AM by GrumpySmurf

  

          

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>>..and honestly, at Spring Break it IS considered OK if you
>are
>>white.
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>I'd bet she's catching some shit from her classmates or
>co-workers right now (unless she's already in the adult
>business somehow).

  

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legsdiamond
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6. "google naked spring break (NSFW) "
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Mon Mar-23-15 08:27 AM by legsdiamond

          

these white girls be all types of naked bruh....

I'm talking about on spring break. Hell, half the parents scolding their kids did the same shit.

Black women (the few that go)change in their hotel bathroom if their GF is in the room.





  

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9. "Oh, I know it's out there"
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I just think the stories about some of these chicks AFTERWARD show that there's blowback for the ones that get "internet famous".

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11. "I went to google this and was met with a wall of T&A"
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made me realize this isn't uncommon for white spring breakers

  

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16. "it ain't uncommon for black spring breakers either"
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google Black spring break, Kappa Beach Party, Black Bike Week, etc...


(edit) I should add that I don't know how it is nowadays, but black spring break events typically rivaled "Freaknic in the early 90's" levels of debauchery.

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18. "I rather believe the lie..."
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I was at a few Freakniks and yeah, it got wild.

Minivans slow rolling with butt naked chicks in the back and pimps trying to sell you a good time. Always felt like a set up when I saw it.

  

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12. "the "magic" of whiteness is that your actions are by and large"
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seen as accessories to your personhood, and not ascribed to your humanity. There is always an opening for your redemption because the branding of "whiteness" has established itself as the exclusive embodiment of human perfection.

However, like most "magic" this is simply an illusion.

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76. "^^^^came in spitting hot facts"
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DJTB YOMM

  

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MEAT
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4. "RE: Naked spring breaker surrounded b men: Her parents must be so proud"
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Although she stated her behavior and interaction with the crowd was consensual and she is safe, she did not realize someone was taking her picture, according to BCSO


Man when we were growing up we were taught that someone is always watching. Pick your nose, your butt, scratch in public ... just assume someone saw it.

That generation should KNOW there's always a camera somewhere. To just assume someone saw it & photographed or videod it.

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8. "lets take it a step furthere"
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>That generation should KNOW there's always a camera somewhere.
>To just assume someone saw it & photographed or videod it.


i think people realize cameras are everywhere but the assumption is that nothing big will come of posting images or no negative consequences will arise from using the images

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10. "that's an amazing amount of cluelessness"
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Mon Mar-23-15 08:38 AM by legsdiamond

          

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13. "and/or drunkenness "
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Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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19. "we all post on social media right?"
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i mean...
they aren't alone
its just carry over from that


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14. "RE: lets take it a step furthere"
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White woman privledge

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35. "since cameras are"
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pretty much everywhere, many young folks have grown up with them and really just don't care and aren't botherered as much as some us older folk.

I don't think we'd be any diff if we had internet and videos everywhere during our youth.

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15. "This girl can't possibly have parents. "
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Everything looks like Oprah kissing Harvey Weinstein these days

  

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73. "RE: This girl can't possibly have parents. "
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No doubt she was spawned from an ether emanating from a netherworld of ignorance.. HAHHAAH

  

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17. "Spring Break is at the point where its getting out of control"
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bullshit it was fine until everyone had a camera/camcorder in their pocket and were able to post that shit for the world to see in seconds. Before that it was innocent fun right? As long as the rest of the country doesnt see what's really going on here.

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20. "i'm SO DAMN GLAD"
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my partying days are over

and i never really did nothing

but this shit is for the birds
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21. "RE: i'm SO DAMN GLAD"
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I was easily the most mature of me and my friends. I was always thinking about if things I did would affect me long term. Some would say overly cautious. But I was wild from 16-20. If I had the shit these kids have now back then, man oh man. I would have gotten myself into so much trouble. SOOOOOO MUCH TROUBLE!

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22. "They should be. She took a potentially embarassing sitch on the chin."
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Didn't cry rape.
Didn't blame and imaginary scary black man for abducting/terrorizing/roofying her.

She stated that it was her choice and moved on.

If he parents aren't proud of her, I am.

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44. "^^^^^"
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23. "A bunch of grown men standing around staring at a naked underage"
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girl..

their parents must be so proud.


*sigh*

this whole story is horrible. im so glad my girls have sense. but the thing always missing in these stories is any mention of the idiots who would stand around taking photos of a girl "whose body looked like a 12 year old"..

they are JUST as wack as she was.


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24. "^^^"
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25. "yeah, that's disgusting"
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*vomits*

i feel bad for that girl, she was clearly not educated or raised well, imo.

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28. "wow at these assumptions"
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i'm not saying i'd want my daughter to do that, but i fail to see how that's a reflection on the parenting. she's an adult now, and when you're in college it's not uncommon for ppl to do stupid things.

  

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32. "^^sarcasm update available"
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33. "i know you're trolling but that doesn't read as sarcasm "
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36. "hello!"
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when i was in college i did all sorts of stuff that went against lessons my parents had taught me. it doesn't mean i wasn't taught the lessons - i heard what they said and made my own decisions.

fuck you.

  

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38. "you're a man. "
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you can do a million things a woman can't without risking your safety to remotely the same degree.

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40. "yes so the stakes are lower for me."
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b/c as a young man i was expected to be a bit 'wild' in my younger days. after all, i had wild oats to sow. plus i wasn't being fitted for a pedestal. unlike young women who are expected to be more staid and reserved even in their youth. young women who act even a little bit 'wild' are in danger of finding themselves 'unwifeable' and labeled as 'loose' or worse.

fuck you.

  

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41. "you're right, but mainly, i am concerned for her safety"
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unlike young women who
>are expected to be more staid and reserved even in their
>youth. young women who act even a little bit 'wild' are in
>danger of finding themselves 'unwifeable' and labeled as
>'loose' or worse.

all this is true, but, a naked 17 year old in front of grown drunken men, i mean, socialization aside, she placing herself in harms way because, well, most men are pigs.

a good upbringing would make her aware of those dangers. you don't take candy from strangers, and you don't parade naked in front of a drunken mob.

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42. "none of that has any bearing on the parenting she received."
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in this subthread i agreed w/GC that this girl's conduct as seen in the video and pix isn't necessarily a reflection on her parents. b/c kids and adults regularly make decisions that contradict their parents' advice and instructions.

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43. "of course it does. come on."
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first of all, she's not an adult, she's 17. she hasn't even fully developed yet.

>in this subthread i agreed w/GC that this girl's conduct as
>seen in the video and pix isn't necessarily a reflection on
>her parents. b/c kids and adults regularly make decisions
>that contradict their parents' advice and instructions.

i think GC just wanted to put on a cape and flaunt it, but, none of you would let your 17 year old daughter parade naked in front of a drunken mob. you would ensure that you raised them in a way where that would not happen.

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45. "but this is impossible to do:"
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> you would ensure that you raised
>them in a way where that would not happen.

  

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47. "I don't believe that."
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i'm an optimist at heart, and i firmly believe you can raise your children with sense.

you educate your daughters on the dangers of alcohol/drunken men. you teach them about the objectification of women and the inherent dangers therein, and you teach them about the value of the human spirit/intelligence and good choices. you continue to love and support them and allow them to explore their life with as much freedom as possible without putting themselves into harm's way, and yes, i am sure things will not go smoothly, but i sincerely doubt a girl with that type of upbringing is going to parade naked in front of a drunken mob looking for one thing and one thing alone.

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49. "did your parents educate you on the dangers of doing drugs?"
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i'm guessing it probably came up at some point, and yet you turned out to be an addict who is now in recovery. see what i mean?

you can not make decisions for your children. you can do your best to equip them so that something like this *shouldn't* happen, but you can not prevent anything 100%.

  

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51. "you're over simplifying"
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they said "don't do it"

parents and their children need to be friends where they can openly discuss these things without the fear of discipline.

there has to be an open dialogue between the parents and the child, and the parents need to exhibit patience when the child is asking questions without falling into hysterics. if you feel that you can't go to your parents to discuss things which surely affect you, you are going to make poor decisions because there is no one to cross examine your perspective with an open and patient approach.

the way you are going on, you might as well let your children loose in the backyard and let them do as they please since you think its impossible to raise them with sense.

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53. "yeah cause this is exactly what i said:"
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>the way you are going on, you might as well let your children
>loose in the backyard and do as they please since you think
>its impossible to raise them with sense.
>

  

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57. "you said it's "impossible""
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58. "and followed that up with this:"
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>you can do your best to equip them so that something like this *shouldn't* happen, but you can not prevent anything 100%.

  

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59. "children are going to experiment "
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with drugs, with relationships, with a lot of things, however, if you do your job, your 17 year old daughter is not going to parade in the nude in front of a drunken mob.

if she does, you failed.

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75. "you clearly don't know how parenting works."
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especially for a 17 year old who is not around parents all the time. you can teach/talk forever, but kids will be kids, especially when no responsible adults are they to intervene.

children do stupid shit and as a parent hope they don't, but you can stop them. they have to stop themselves.

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77. "so you think this girl came from a loving/supportive"
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environment? in other words, you believe that no matter how much care you provide, your daughter may strip down naked and parade in front of a drunken mob?

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78. "dawg, preacher's daughters are especially good for this shit"
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raised in the church, got morals and values and whatnot, proselytize to the kids in school and the folks in the community... First chance they get away from the crib and out of their parents eye they go buck wild.

I have a few personal anecdotes about preacher's daughters. All of them were stone cold freaks.


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79. "who says preachers provide the right set of values?"
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The church doesn't necessarily offer morals and values as much as stifle/repress expression/exploration. I am not surprised that people who grow up in the church express an over zealous wild side given the chance.

I presented a formula I think works well. As I said, there has to be an open and honest dialogue with the child. If a child shows interest in alcohol, or boys, or drugs, don't shut it away into the "do not dare or else" vault, but explore the topic openly and honestly. Allow them to stumble a bit, to learn from their own mistakes, as opposed to repressing it. Travel with them, open their eyes to beautiful realities they have no access to in high school so they have exciting things to look forward to. Expose them to the arts, to good education, challenge them with thought, ask them what they are thinking, explore their thoughts with them. In essence, be their companion, instead of someone that attempts to make up their minds for them. Gently expose them to people who have over indulged in one aspect or another, and using the Socratic method, let them come to the conclusions you know are best for them on their own.

The church does not operate that way. The church very coldly and plainly says "Do not do that or you will go to hell, etc."


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80. "I have no idea what kind of parenting she's had"
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>environment? in other words, you believe that no matter how
>much care you provide, your daughter may strip down naked and
>parade in front of a drunken mob?

and neither do you. for all we know, this girl could be a goodie good that decided to let her hair down along with her pants lol. could be a one time deal. could be a long time trend. likely it'll fall somewhere in the middle like most of us.


life isn't a straight line and parenting is pretty damn crooked. you're leaving out at least to huge factors, free will and outside environmental factors. again, parents can spew lessons forever, but that doesn't mean the children will follow suit in all situations.

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81. "it's not just about spewing lessons"
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it's about exploring them together, putting them in action, engaging your child and their thoughts. listening to them.

its very easy as a parent to be fearful for your child's safety given the dangers that lurk there, and our knee jerk impulse reaction is to say "NO DON'T DO IT!"

we all forget that we once filled those shoes and we did it, and did anything really stop us? yes, the lessons we learned as a child that were given to us with love and companionship stuck with us, and that's why most of us, can dabble in a few things and make the right decision. that's what you hope for. expecting your kids to stay away from drugs or alcohol or the opposite sex is asinine, especially since our society promotes and glorifies all these things.

instead of trying to shut the door on those things, you leave it open, and engage in dialogue instead of direction.

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87. "when I say spewing lessons, "
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>it's about exploring them together, putting them in action,
>engaging your child and their thoughts. listening to them.

I'm including all that comes with that from a fully involved perspective. not simply spouting off at the mouth.
>
>its very easy as a parent to be fearful for your child's
>safety given the dangers that lurk there, and our knee jerk
>impulse reaction is to say "NO DON'T DO IT!"
>
>we all forget that we once filled those shoes and we did it,
>and did anything really stop us? yes, the lessons we learned
>as a child that were given to us with love and companionship
>stuck with us, and that's why most of us, can dabble in a few
>things and make the right decision. that's what you hope for.
>expecting your kids to stay away from drugs or alcohol or the
>opposite sex is asinine, especially since our society promotes
>and glorifies all these things.

did anything really stop us? sure. our free will to make decisions and realizing consequences. or maybe it wasn't fun any more. or maybe my partner in crime no longer wanted to play that game. or maybe some other variable, which could also be 'hmmm, what would my parents think'.

or maybe I don't stop cuz I like it and it feels great. and I don't give a shit what my momma said. I'm going to do me even though I had the best parents ever who showed me a myriad of better ways to do stuff.

we don't know this girl's or her parent's history. so we can't just say her parents were horrible because she made this decision.



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95. "RE: when I say spewing lessons, "
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>
>we don't know this girl's or her parent's history. so we can't
>just say her parents were horrible because she made this
>decision.

This is where you and I disagree. I do not believe she had a proper upbringing and a stable home. Some of you are suggesting that no matter what you do, you ultimately have no control or influence and I disagree.

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98. "good enough."
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I disagree.
>

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100. "you're the only one saying anyone is saying that."
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>suggesting that no matter what you do, you ultimately have no
>control or influence and I disagree.
>

  

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48. "exactly."
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my parents raised me in a way that they were certain would avoid me ever using illegal drugs.

oops.

they raised me to avoid premarital sex.

oops.

they raised me to avoid being gay.

oops.

they raised me to avoid leaving the country w/o their awareness let alone permission when i was still only 18 yrs old.

oops.

i can go on. but i've done lots that they wouldn't approve.

fuck you.

  

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50. "RE: exactly."
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>they raised me to avoid being gay.
>
>oops.
>

this is the most important point. any child whose parents attempt to prevent them from being who they are is going to create a condition of distrust.

"they said I couldn't be gay, but I am, i guess all the other things they told me not to do is irrelevant now since they stood in the way of my identity."

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63. "k."
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fuck you.

  

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72. "I apologize if I offended you"
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I am just speculating based on the information I was given/contrasted with my own experiences growing up. Anyway, I'm sorry if I was out of line.

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74. "It's cool"
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fuck you.

  

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66. "OMG, just stop, fam. stop."
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68. "all of this except the gay part..."
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>my parents raised me in a way that they were certain would
>avoid me ever using illegal drugs.
>
>oops.
>
>they raised me to avoid premarital sex.
>
>oops.
>
>they raised me to avoid being gay.
>
>oops.
>
>they raised me to avoid leaving the country w/o their
>awareness let alone permission when i was still only 18 yrs
>old.
>
>oops.
>
>i can go on. but i've done lots that they wouldn't approve.
>

pretty much EVERY child has done something that flies in the face of their upbringing. I mean... everybody knows a preachers daughter that's a damned alcoholic dick suckin, bootyhole fuckin freak on the low.



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37. "you think a 17 year old is an adult?"
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parading naked in front of grown drunken man is indicative of a good foundation to you?

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>*vomits*
>
>i feel bad for that girl, she was clearly not educated or
>raised well, imo.


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82. "Ready from #25 down."
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83. "Yeah.. did that. Your position is unclear. Hence, the request."
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you replied to me in a manner that some took as sarcasm.. then you proceeded to respond in ways that would indicate you weren't being sarcastic.. and you didn't respond to my reply in a way that made sense contextually either. it's all her fault? men aren't to blame? she obviously had shitty parents? all of the above?

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85. "Sorry, I thought I was clear."
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> it's all her
>fault? men aren't to blame? she obviously had shitty parents?
>all of the above?

Grown men oogling over her are disgusting. (That's why I said *vomits*) and there certainly was no intended sarcasm in my tone.

It's not the girl's fault. I feel bad for her because it seems like she did not have a stable home or a proper upbringing, imo.

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31. "You mean like Okayplayers and Bloocollar pic posts?"
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if we're gonna keep it real

  

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39. "he posted underage girls with 12 year old looking bodies?"
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52. "is that what I said?"
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54. "haha no, but that's what Phenom was talkin' about."
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i'm not sure exactly what you were talking about.

  

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34. "it's spring break is the perfect time to be wack"
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when they showed this story on Fox News they showed clips of people being extremely wack.

Booty popping badly and wooohoooing for the camera.

  

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46. "I guess the real question is this:"
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Would any of them dudes have been around her like that if they knew she was only 17?

would the person that took the pics still have done so if they knew she was 17?

I'm sure a few woulda still been like "hell yeah!" but I think that, in 2015, a lot of dudes would have been running.


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61. "it was implied she had a body like a 12 to 14 year old. "
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62. "so???"
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I've dated 20+ year olds with small builds.
I've seen strippers with tiny builds.

At the same time, when I was 12-14 I went to school with a number of girls with bodies that would make a lot of grown ass women look stupid.

These days, what a chicks body looks like is simply not an indicator of age.

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91. "sooo.. she looked like she was 12. "
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I think those dudes didn't care.

  

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111. "I saw the pic of her face... she doesn't look 12 by any stretch."
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3005200/Naked-Spring-Break-girl-pictured-surrounded-men-identified-police-minor-insists-safe-didn-t-know-picture-taken.html

I have a 12 year old daughter. Her and her friends look waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay younger that this broad.

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64. "every girl without a big ass is a 12 year old boy on okayplayer"
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65. "Grown women always have a big ass and titties"
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if you let OKP's tell it.


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93. "nah, but no T&A and a baby face would make me cringe"
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112. "did you even see her face???"
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3005200/Naked-Spring-Break-girl-pictured-surrounded-men-identified-police-minor-insists-safe-didn-t-know-picture-taken.html

that ain't a baby face.

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96. "who can even see her body though?"
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55. "The disparity in the disparaging is definitely problematic"
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And a sign of a greater problem. No-one is bemoaning those mens' parents either.

Just IMO though.

  

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26. "YT"
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27. "stop slut shaming in 2015 nm"
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does it really matter?

wonder what bin's doing?
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67. "^^^"
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70. "*gets in this line*"
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86. "And just let them set themselves up to be an easy target."
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Okay.

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90. "basically"
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94. "shame the predators, not the prey."
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and she already knows all about the danger of her choice, i'm sure. she chose it anyway. and she should be able to do that w/o being in danger.

fuck you.

  

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97. "no, no, no.... that isn't how any of this works..."
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both parties have a responsibility.

shame the predators AND the prey.

you don't walk into a lions den and get sympathy.




  

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103. "except these men aren't lions."
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so they have a responsibility to not act like lions.

fuck you.

  

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104. "men are animals too"
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in this context...a group of lions might be easier to tame

i get what you are saying though...

she's the 17 year old craving the attention of the 18-30 year olds...

she is the victim and her poor decisions shouldn't give anyone a pass at victimizing her...

but men (and women) aren't much better than animals...predator or prey both have the capacity to overcome the food chain...neither appears willing to do so

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106. "men are 'animals' b/c we choose to be and the culture allows it."
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if those men were animals in that situation it was by their choice and our general culture enables that choice instead of challenging it.

>she's the 17 year old craving the attention of the 18-30 year
>olds...

sure. and she's a 17 yr old out to have a good time. which she should be able to do w/o having to worry about 'animals'.

>she is the victim and her poor decisions shouldn't give anyone
>a pass at victimizing her...

i so don't care.

>but men (and women) aren't much better than animals...predator
>or prey both have the capacity to overcome the food
>chain...neither appears willing to do so

whatever. fine. don't care.

fuck you.

  

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107. "smh... this doesn't help women IMO. "
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both parties share blame in this story.

women aren't so weak they can't share blame for their actions.

both parties are wrong.

  

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108. "good for you. you formed an opinion. "
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fuck you.

  

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109. "that's it? Damn, you gone soft bruh"
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110. "wait... wtf???"
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>she is the victim and her poor decisions shouldn't give anyone
>a pass at victimizing her...

How, exactly, is she a victim outside of being a victim of her OWN stupidity???

If I were to strip down asshole naked and walk into the local gay bar on EDM and Glowsticks night and end up gettin' groped, pics taken, or more, am I suddenly a victim or am I just plain stupid for doing some dumb shit like that in the first place???

If I were to take $5000 in $20 bills and walk around the double extra hood flashing it with bills hanging out of my pockets and shit and I get robbed am I still a victim or a fuckin idiot for doing some dumb shit in the first place???

I don't get this whole anti-personal responsibility mentality so many people seem to have today. Yes, she SHOULD be able to do whatever she wants, but this ain't that kind of world. If you do dumb shit and something bad happens because of YOUR decision to do dumb shit, then the first finger of blame that needs to be pointed is at yourself.

  

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115. "RE: wait... wtf???"
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>If I were to strip down asshole naked and walk into the local
>gay bar on EDM and Glowsticks night and end up gettin' groped,
>pics taken, or more, am I suddenly a victim or am I just plain
>stupid for doing some dumb shit like that in the first
>place???
>

I'm pretty sure he would call that having fun aka last Tuesday.

gotta remember that dude is a lawyer and gets paid to turn anyone into weak victim of circumstance.

  

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105. "stop using empty terms where they dont apply"
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questioning whether this girl belonged out there isn't slut shaming

  

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30. "Um, wouldn't that pic be child pornography?"
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56. "depends on the judge, but typically... yeah."
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Some judges reserve a "CP" label for pics/video of actual sex acts, but not many. In general, anyone under 18 naked = CP.

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60. "BTW, the girl they interviewed was HAWT."
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92. "#facts"
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71. "best part is that they blurred out her sunglasses and not her face."
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good job guys protecting her identity
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88. "SPRING BREAK FOREVAH (c) O.G James Franco"
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89. "You can't buy dignity"
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"And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful." ~ 2 Tim 2:4

  

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101. "I disagree"
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113. "How the hell did this go plat? lol"
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114. "plato did it"
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116. ""plat" are the first 4 letters of my name ;) "
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