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GameTheory
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"Ebro: "No one cares about the plight of men""


          

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RE: Ebro: "No one cares about the plight of men"
Mar 20th 2015
1
Any society that does that has pretty much forfeited its right to exist....
Mar 20th 2015
2
All I know is that if people see a homeless woman
Mar 20th 2015
3
maybe its an nyc thing but nobody cares
Mar 21st 2015
4
If you saw a homeless man chilling with a panda you'd care.
Mar 21st 2015
5
      i'd run. pandas frighten me.
Mar 21st 2015
14
this too is complete bullshit.
Mar 21st 2015
9
There's a reason why homeless ppl say "I need food for the dog."
Mar 21st 2015
10
no. no there's not.
Mar 21st 2015
12
      I prefer your worldview, embarassment sounds better than apathy.
Mar 21st 2015
15
           y'all should have this looked at.
Mar 21st 2015
18
homeless people's dogs tend to be in pretty good shape though
Mar 21st 2015
27
I believe that you feel that way
Mar 21st 2015
28
Maybe white ppl in Austin. Black ppl see that and think
Mar 21st 2015
35
yes, the summation of my 43 years of life on earth is
Mar 22nd 2015
37
      these people are too deep for a joke bruh
Mar 22nd 2015
38
           maybe its just me but im used to jokes being funny.
Mar 22nd 2015
39
                any black comedian telling that joke will get laughs..
Mar 22nd 2015
40
                     *looks around for black comedian telling joke*
Mar 22nd 2015
43
                          You don't have to look far. It's a Chris Rock joke lol
Mar 22nd 2015
46
                          dude, I REALLY thought people here would have known right away
Mar 22nd 2015
50
                          smh... if it aint Mike Epps or a youtube cat it didnt happen
Mar 22nd 2015
55
                          didnt know jstew was chris rock
Mar 23rd 2015
75
                          look, up in the sky!!! its a bird, no, a plane, no.. its a JOKE
Mar 22nd 2015
56
These meth chicks in downtown Philly get very little love
Mar 23rd 2015
73
Yup...but we also get paid more and fear rape less. So it's a wash.
Mar 21st 2015
6
lol the homeless dude isn't getting paid more
Mar 21st 2015
7
He has a dog...
Mar 21st 2015
24
OMFG
Mar 21st 2015
26
If you suffer the effects of extremem poverty gender becomes
Mar 22nd 2015
48
Kinda where I'm at w/it.
Mar 21st 2015
11
      thankfully not everyone is so callous.
Mar 21st 2015
13
           I see it as being less about callousness, and more about balance.
Mar 21st 2015
16
                i was waiting for you to call me a woman.
Mar 21st 2015
17
                That's not what I said at all - not even close.
Mar 21st 2015
21
                     oh, so bc i live in a super gay bubble
Mar 22nd 2015
51
                ...yeah, that just kinda proved the point in the OP, lol
Mar 21st 2015
19
                     i'm probably disagreeing largely b/c of my parents.
Mar 21st 2015
20
                          ok, it's a lot going on
Mar 21st 2015
23
                               i don't think most ppl's emotional needs are considered by most
Mar 22nd 2015
52
that's complete bullshit.
Mar 21st 2015
8
^^^
Mar 21st 2015
32
^
Mar 22nd 2015
47
the world don't stop spinning just cuz i'm in my feelings...
Mar 21st 2015
22
That's paying the cost to be the boss
Mar 21st 2015
25
It's not so much no-one
Mar 21st 2015
29
that's a very "it's all about me!!!!!!!!" viewpoint to have
Mar 21st 2015
30
agreed.
Mar 22nd 2015
54
he's right. nm
Mar 21st 2015
31
He's right - and white men are being discriminated against too much
Mar 21st 2015
33
Men are responsible for most if not all of the violence
Mar 21st 2015
34
surprisingly, i'm not needed in this post :)
Mar 21st 2015
36
i just realized just how crazy his eyes look
Mar 22nd 2015
41
a lot of the replies in here are proving his point
Mar 22nd 2015
42
yep
Mar 22nd 2015
44
Exactly
Mar 22nd 2015
45
Don't misconstrue what I said.
Mar 22nd 2015
49
who the hell puts their suffering in perspective?
Mar 22nd 2015
53
      RE: who the hell puts their suffering in perspective?
Mar 22nd 2015
57
      Am I talking to your average joe right now?
Mar 22nd 2015
61
           touché nm
Mar 22nd 2015
67
do you really believe nobody gives a fuck about you?
Mar 22nd 2015
59
      that + $2 would get me a cup of coffee at starbucks
Mar 22nd 2015
62
           I've heard several men say this
Mar 22nd 2015
63
           satisfaction + contentment IS Happiness, bruh
Mar 22nd 2015
64
           are you either?
Mar 22nd 2015
65
           bruh... they don't know the extent of it...
Mar 22nd 2015
66
                why wouldn't i know that?
Mar 23rd 2015
69
                     yall are talking about 2 different things...
Mar 23rd 2015
70
people are discounting the expectations
Mar 22nd 2015
58
maybe we used to think like you did, and got proven wrong.
Mar 22nd 2015
60
He so full of shit. My home girl use to date him.
Mar 22nd 2015
68
what does her coming from money have to do with his point?
Mar 23rd 2015
71
      She didn't need anything and wasn't looking for anything from him
Mar 23rd 2015
74
I hate that dude
Mar 23rd 2015
72

BlackLex
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1. "RE: Ebro: "No one cares about the plight of men""
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"A couple months" lol

  

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2. "Any society that does that has pretty much forfeited its right to exist...."
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Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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3. "All I know is that if people see a homeless woman"
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They feel terrible for her.

If they see a homeless man with a dog, they feel terrible for the dog.

  

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4. "maybe its an nyc thing but nobody cares"
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about anyone homeless regardless of sex or the mammals they chill with.
so i found this reply odd.

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5. "If you saw a homeless man chilling with a panda you'd care. "
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"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard

  

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14. "i'd run. pandas frighten me."
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9. "this too is complete bullshit."
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wtf?

fuck you.

  

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10. "There's a reason why homeless ppl say "I need food for the dog.""
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There's something to what he's saying.

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12. "no. no there's not."
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if ppl ignore homeless men it's not b/c they're men, i think. i think it's b/c ppl feel powerless to address the root cause of the homelessness and so they're embarrassed which causes them to look past the homeless.

i'm projecting that, of course. but i also used to work on housing and homelessness issues so i have some experience.

fuck you.

  

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15. "I prefer your worldview, embarassment sounds better than apathy."
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I disagree with it, but I find it infintely more palatable than mine.

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18. "y'all should have this looked at."
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b/c...damn.

fuck you.

  

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27. "homeless people's dogs tend to be in pretty good shape though"
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they are rarely emaciated, and they're usually to be pretty content, and well behaved.

the dogs who seem to be mistreated most are the ones who have a house. or a house next to them while, sitting on the side of it, or chained to a tree in the back yard getting ignored.

that said, i'm a sucker for any homeless person with a dog, because of the dog.

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28. "I believe that you feel that way"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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35. "Maybe white ppl in Austin. Black ppl see that and think "
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Foh I can barely feed my myself/my kids, you think I'm going to give you money to feed your dog...?

  

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37. "yes, the summation of my 43 years of life on earth is "
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in dealing with and being around white people in Austin. It was a line from a famous comedian who isn't white and doesn't live in Austin btw.

  

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38. "these people are too deep for a joke bruh"
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39. "maybe its just me but im used to jokes being funny."
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aka how the hell we posta know that was a joke?

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40. "any black comedian telling that joke will get laughs.. "
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Its an obvious dig at white peoples love for dogs.

  

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43. "*looks around for black comedian telling joke*"
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www.royallegacy.org

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46. "You don't have to look far. It's a Chris Rock joke lol"
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50. "dude, I REALLY thought people here would have known right away"
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what I was referencing.

  

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55. "smh... if it aint Mike Epps or a youtube cat it didnt happen "
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75. "didnt know jstew was chris rock"
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I've seen every chris rock special. it didnt sound familiar *shrug*

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56. "look, up in the sky!!! its a bird, no, a plane, no.. its a JOKE"
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73. "These meth chicks in downtown Philly get very little love"
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They get treated just like the rest of the people sitting around with signs asking for change.

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6. "Yup...but we also get paid more and fear rape less. So it's a wash. "
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And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard

  

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7. "lol the homeless dude isn't getting paid more"
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24. "He has a dog..."
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...emotional equity. It's man's best friend for a reason.

  

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26. "OMFG"
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48. "If you suffer the effects of extremem poverty gender becomes"
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less relevant when it comes to solving your immediate problems.

For the rest of us though...

  

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11. "Kinda where I'm at w/it."
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Yes, it's true, but does it really matter?

We're at the top of the heap and if you're a decent looking middle-class white man????

I have ZERO fucks to give about your plight, that being said. Yes, there are downsides and that's ok. You can't win 'em all.

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13. "thankfully not everyone is so callous."
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there are plenty ppl in the world who care about at least some of the men in their lives.

sheesh.

do you ppl love your fathers? do you care about...

ah HA.

i see it.

fuck you.

  

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16. "I see it as being less about callousness, and more about balance."
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I find men whining about the lack of (fill in the blank) akin to white folks complaining about (fill in the blank) It's often due to a lack of perspective.

I will say this. I'm not sure if you're going to resonate w/this but there is a certain callousness w/which men's emotional/mental needs/wants are regarded. This may be specific to hetero-normative men tho. I do believe there is a bit of Gender Dynamics involved.

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17. "i was waiting for you to call me a woman."
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or to say that i'm so feminine that i may not be able to understand this point.

you didn't disappoint.

and i feel sorry for you.

fuck you.

  

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21. "That's not what I said at all - not even close."
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and I know you're intelligent enough to see what I was saying, but I'll spell it out.

A lot of women, expect their love interests, when that love interest is a man to be stoic and often over look the emotional/mental needs of them.

This isn't about you being feminine, this is about a dynamic you may not be a party to, due to your orientation. Just like, I'm sure there are power/relationship dynamics between two men when they are in a romatic relationship that I'm sure I am not a party to at all.

femininity/masculinity have NOTHING to do with it.

That was a bit of a stretch, and while my response may not have disappointed you, your assumption about mine, SURELY disappointed me.

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51. "oh, so bc i live in a super gay bubble"
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populated only by gay ppl i cannot understand the plight of the heterosexual male.

that is fucking laughable.

>and I know you're intelligent enough to see what I was
>saying, but I'll spell it out.

i'd think you'd be intelligent enough to know that though i don't eat pussy my world is filled w/heterosexuals. most of my favorite ppl are heterosexuals (<-- see what i did there?). i was raised by heterosexuals. my whole family is heterosexual (save for a bisexual first cousin). all of my coworkers. the overwhelming majority of the kids i went to school with. the overwhelming majority of the ppl i see on tv. in movies. in books.

do i need to go on? b/c i can.

>A lot of women, expect their love interests, when that love
>interest is a man to be stoic and often over look the
>emotional/mental needs of them.
>
>This isn't about you being feminine, this is about a dynamic
>you may not be a party to, due to your orientation.

oh fuck off.

Just like,
>I'm sure there are power/relationship dynamics between two men
>when they are in a romatic relationship that I'm sure I am not
>a party to at all.

jesus the fuck christ.

anyway, i know what you're saying. i disagree w/it completely.

yes, some women expect their man to be stoic. some. sure. but that's not the same as saying women or the women we're discussing in particular do not care about a man's feelings. it's not necessarily true that women have that expectation and even if they do if they really care for the man in their life and he's struggling emotionally they want to help. they may not know how to help - they may feel powerless and they may act out of that feeling of powerlessness. it's not the same as not caring.

also, b/c we're taught as boys to disregard our feelings when we hurt (and we all do) we often lack the tools to communicate the hurt effectively. and so we project this idea that world doesn't care about our feelings b/c we're men. it's just not true. the world may not care but not b/c we're men. and the ppl who love us if they actually love us DO care about our feelings. they care what we go through. they don't want us to hurt. and if we hurt and they can help they will help. we have to reach out though. we have to ask for the help. those who are really down for us will respond - they'll reach back.

fuck you.

  

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19. "...yeah, that just kinda proved the point in the OP, lol"
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20. "i'm probably disagreeing largely b/c of my parents."
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they've been married for almost 50 yrs. they've been to hell and back. if she didn't care about his emotional needs (which are legion - he was a raging alcoholic for their first 15 yrs or so) they wouldn't still be together, i think.

and i have worked w/ppl who care deeply about the plight of homeless ppl - many (if not most) of whom are men. so i disagree pretty strongly that ppl don't care about homeless men b/c they are men.

if ppl don't care about the plight of men i don't think it's b/c they're men i think it's b/c ppl don't care about the plight of others generally.

but maybe i don't know what y'all mean by 'care'.

fuck you.

  

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23. "ok, it's a lot going on"
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i disagree with spades and lardlad calling it whining and a balancing out. Everybody deserves mental stability. Plus, a part of emotional health is empathy and...


I disagree with you in that I don't think that men's emotional needs are even considered by most people. (hence the term "man up" and other stupid shit like that)

Yes some folks and programs try and reach folks. But by and large...the idea of what a man is is divorced from compassion and tied mostly to violence and responsibility

  

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52. "i don't think most ppl's emotional needs are considered by most"
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ppl. that's why we have circles of ppl around us who care for us by varying degrees. that's true for men and women alike.


fuck you.

  

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8. "that's complete bullshit."
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i mean, i feel bad for him if no one in his life cares about him. that's too bad.

i have ppl in my life who care what i'm going through. w/o regard for whether i have money.

fuck you.

  

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32. "^^^"
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47. "^"
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-30-
You know it's drama, but it sound real good.

  

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22. "the world don't stop spinning just cuz i'm in my feelings..."
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yes, i have people that care about me. deeply.

BUT

i can't just curl up into a ball and rock back and forth while i sort things out in my head.

i got responsibilities. there's a long list of things that don't get done without me handling it. the quality of life for quite a few people suffer if i don't do what i do.

so when i'm feeling bad, it's not like i'm surrounded by people that don't care. it's just that there is no bail out. nobody is there to step into my place and do everything that i do while i get my mind right.

i gotta keep on keepin on...




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25. "That's paying the cost to be the boss "
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>i got responsibilities. there's a long list of things that
>don't get done without me handling it. the quality of life for
>quite a few people suffer if i don't do what i do.
>
>so when i'm feeling bad, it's not like i'm surrounded by
>people that don't care. it's just that there is no bail out.
>nobody is there to step into my place and do everything that i
>do while i get my mind right.

This reply is basically saying that men do it to themselves by taking on that kind of responsibility in their lives.

Heterosexual men have no one else to blame but other heterosexual men for their plight.

I've watched so many men, including here on OKP, paint emotions as negative and 'feminine' then have the nerve to be upset when others don't acknowledge that you as a man have feelings too, the same feelings you belittled other people for having.

Nope, I don't have sympathy for what Ebro is saying. So many men want to show how much of a man they are and can be by not emoting.
Don't get mad at everyone else when that facade of masculine armor gets tiring.

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29. "It's not so much no-one"
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More like a lot of men don't care, and homeless men can't exactly unite and lobby.

If enough men cared about the plight of the homeless in general, they would be better off. However, the ranks of influential men are packed with those who lack empathy. Thus the weight of their influence makes it seem like nobody cares, whereas it's just that not enough of the right people care.

Just IMO though.

  

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30. "that's a very "it's all about me!!!!!!!!" viewpoint to have"
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and I see why it would appeal to him.

if he legit does't have anyone who would still be in his corner, sans career, money etc. then that's horrifically sad.

if the people in his circle couldn't get by without him, then man, someone needs to work on their independence.

but that's just his perspective, and one a lot of people have. it's tiring, it's stressful, and it's not benefiting the person having it.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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54. "agreed."
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fuck you.

  

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31. "he's right. nm "
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33. "He's right - and white men are being discriminated against too much"
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geez!

  

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34. "Men are responsible for most if not all of the violence"
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So concern for any kind of "plight" is lost as long as that's the case.

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36. "surprisingly, i'm not needed in this post :)"
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well done fellas.

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41. "i just realized just how crazy his eyes look"
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"If you wanna help us, fine. Sit down with your kids and make 'em study at night...otherwise, shoot THIS mothaf*cka!" (c) Morgan Freeman,

  

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42. "a lot of the replies in here are proving his point"
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men are responsible for all the violence in the world!

men get paid more & get raped less soooo

well, men think emotion is weakness so its their fault!

etc

  

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44. "yep"
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45. "Exactly "
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happiness is a mediocre standard for a middle class existence - S. Williams

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49. "Don't misconstrue what I said."
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I didn't give my approval, I said that because other groups suffer as well you need to put your own suffering in perspective.

We suffer in unique ways, and we're rewarded in unique ways as well.

"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard

  

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53. "who the hell puts their suffering in perspective?"
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This is where you people lose normal people. Like telling white people to check their privilege. Wtf would do that?

Gee, I will suffer and do worse...so you random ppl I dont know or care abt...can feel better

Its dumb.

  

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57. "RE: who the hell puts their suffering in perspective?"
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>This is where you people lose normal people.

hehe... true

  

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61. "Am I talking to your average joe right now?"
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I didn't realize I was pitching campaign slogans.

No shit most people don't try to put their situations into a larger perspective, we both know you're intelligent enough to discuss the broader implications of homeboy's statements, so why are you pretending like I was addressing this to someone other than you?

Also, don't lump me in with the SJW crowd you've known me too long to pull that bullshit Bin.

  

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67. "touché nm"
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does it really matter?

wonder what bin's doing?
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59. "do you really believe nobody gives a fuck about you?"
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I am not judging you if you think that.
I am asking if you feel that way.

I have never felt unloved.

I have felt that ppl in my life didn't have the capacity to help me
(which is why therapists are great.
they don't tell you to man up
and they don't tell you to get out
your feelings and they don't make
it about them).

But I never felt unloved.

And also, ppl that I assumed had no capacity to help actually did.

Ppl in my life that I didn't think
I could ask for help came through when I asked.

Ppl that I assumed could not relate to my
struggles found ways to listen.

Honestly, my life got easier when I stopped trying to do everything by my goddamned self.

And no, the fact that I'm gay has 0 to do
with the fact that the world was not as callus as I assumed it was.

All men, gay and straight, are socialized to be stoic.

But that shit is non-useful unless you
have a gun or knife pulled on you
and it's a matter of fight or flight.

beyond that, it is useful to reach out to other ppl if you are in over your head.
actually, it's good to reach out BEFORE you are in over your head.

I was surprised to find that my father,
who I haven't asked for shit since whenever, was not only able to listen and communicate and offer assistance, but also
was happy that I reached out to him and
lamented the fact that I was so hesitant to do so.


I am not saying that ppl in your life can help you.

I am saying that it's worth it to give them the opportunity to turn you away... because there is a chance that they won't.

that stoic shit is for the birds.

if no longer think it is possible to get where I want to be without help.

I mean, damn.




>men are responsible for all the violence in the world!
>
>men get paid more & get raped less soooo
>
>well, men think emotion is weakness so its their fault!
>
>etc
>
>

  

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62. "that + $2 would get me a cup of coffee at starbucks"
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If I'm going thru it there's no organization to help me

If I can't pay my rent for whatever reason I'd be a homeless motherfucker

Ive got a couple friends and family...if I got fired tomorrow, they would be like damn homie! At best I could crash with them for a week. Maybe.

But overall....I'm on my own. As a man that is something you have to learn to accept.

If I dropped dead tomorrow other than my children no ones life will be hugely impacted.

Nobody cares. When I feel emotional, most people would be like man the fuck up...because nobody cares.

Thats how it is.

Another reason I feel like "happiness" is for women and children. & pharrel. As a man the most you can pray for in life is satisfaction. Contentment.

I could go on but...why?


  

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63. "I've heard several men say this"
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Even some that I love. It's disturbing...
Some of it is real, most of it is self imposed.
Won't ask for help even if it kills them, so belief becomes fact.
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64. "satisfaction + contentment IS Happiness, bruh"
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65. "are you either?"
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I'm not.


does it really matter?

wonder what bin's doing?
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66. "bruh... they don't know the extent of it..."
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>If I'm going thru it there's no organization to help me
>
>If I can't pay my rent for whatever reason I'd be a homeless
>motherfucker

When a state tightens the requirements for food stamps, welfare, etc the FIRST people to get cut are single, childless men. It happened in Michigan back in the 90's. A grip of dudes that couldn't find work for whatever reason suddenly found themselves without food.

When I lost my job, I was going to call up and apply for food stamps/snap so we could eat. The wife and her moms told me to let HER do it 'cause if it went under my name we might not get it or get it severely reduced.

One of the homies got sole custody of his infant kids 'cause moms got hemmed up on some foul charges. He needed some extra money for food for the kids and ended up struggling to make ends meet 'cause ain't no WIC-type of program for men.

Ain't no programs for men... period. We're expected to suck it up, dust ourselves off, and pull a job out our asses to make money to support ourselves.

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69. "why wouldn't i know that?"
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that is all the more reason why it's a bad idea to try to solve all problems by yourself.

in fact, you just gave an example of
you, a man talking about shit with
your SO, to decide on the best course of action.

you're SO didn't say, suck it up.

the two of you collaborated to find
a workable way forward.

which is the only point i am making.


don't keep every problem to yourself.
talk about it. ppl might have a better idea than you.

or they might have something they can offer.

not saying they will.

they might.

it's good to ask.



>>If I'm going thru it there's no organization to help me
>>
>>If I can't pay my rent for whatever reason I'd be a homeless
>>motherfucker
>
>When a state tightens the requirements for food stamps,
>welfare, etc the FIRST people to get cut are single, childless
>men. It happened in Michigan back in the 90's. A grip of dudes
>that couldn't find work for whatever reason suddenly found
>themselves without food.
>
>When I lost my job, I was going to call up and apply for food
>stamps/snap so we could eat. The wife and her moms told me to
>let HER do it 'cause if it went under my name we might not get
>it or get it severely reduced.
>
>One of the homies got sole custody of his infant kids 'cause
>moms got hemmed up on some foul charges. He needed some extra
>money for food for the kids and ended up struggling to make
>ends meet 'cause ain't no WIC-type of program for men.
>
>Ain't no programs for men... period. We're expected to suck it
>up, dust ourselves off, and pull a job out our asses to make
>money to support ourselves.
>
>---------------------------
>
>forcing myself to actually respond to you is like bathing in
>ebola virus. - Binlahab
>
>Like there is stupid, and then there is you, and then there is
>dead. - VAsBestBBW
>
>R.I.P. Disco D

  

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70. "yall are talking about 2 different things..."
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regardless of how he approached it the solution involved a woman applying because...

  

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58. "people are discounting the expectations"
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i'm not going to bother though...

too much BS in this post already

Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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60. "maybe we used to think like you did, and got proven wrong. "
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maybe we asked for help,
or asked for an ear to listen,
and were not turned away, ridiculed, or kicked while we were down.

maybe as we grow up, we realize
that the world, while terrible,
is not a giant bowl of shit and nothing more.

maybe we found that some ppl are good,
and they give a damn about us,
don't want to see us hurt,
and will help if they know we have a problem they can assist with.

I know humans are terrible,
but believe it or not, they have their moments.


>i'm not going to bother though...
>
>too much BS in this post already

  

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68. "He so full of shit. My home girl use to date him. "
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And she is ride or die and got her own money (though I don't think he necessarily knew her family came from paper).


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71. "what does her coming from money have to do with his point? "
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no snark? just asking?

  

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74. "She didn't need anything and wasn't looking for anything from him"
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And when they met he wasn't the dude he is now, much lower on the food chain.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson


"One of the most important things in life is what Judge Learned Hand described as 'that ever-gnawing inner doubt as to whether you're

  

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Kim Jong Trill
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72. "I hate that dude"
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Fuck your fort!

  

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