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BigJazz
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"Poll question: there are too many critics with no credentials"


  

          

This pops up on my IG from time to time.

Your thoughts on it?

Poll result (5 votes)
i agree in principle with this sentiment (1 votes)Vote
it's a bullshit premise. opinions don't need to be qualified... (2 votes)Vote
gotta hear both sides (2 votes)Vote

  

  

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fuck is a credential?
Mar 19th 2015
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wat?
Mar 19th 2015
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my apologies. why does a critic need a credential?
Mar 19th 2015
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      ...to assess the validity of criticism?
Mar 19th 2015
6
           who provides the credentials? how are those validated?
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                ...
Mar 19th 2015
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                very well-stated.
Mar 19th 2015
11
                oh.
Mar 19th 2015
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Exactly
Mar 19th 2015
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It's a good thing
Mar 19th 2015
3
I'm confused by the second option.
Mar 19th 2015
5
The problem is the listener's inability to assess an opinion.
Mar 19th 2015
10
The usage of "credentials" to legitimize or discredit an opinion
Mar 19th 2015
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Deadzombie
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Thu Mar-19-15 01:53 PM

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1. "fuck is a credential?"
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cgonz00cc
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Thu Mar-19-15 01:55 PM

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2. "wat?"
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Deadzombie
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4. "my apologies. why does a critic need a credential?"
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cgonz00cc
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6. "...to assess the validity of criticism?"
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Are these serious questions?

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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Deadzombie
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7. "who provides the credentials? how are those validated?"
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i think exploring a critic's 'credentials' only serves the means to discredit the critic.

but what about the substance of the critique?

  

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MiracleRic
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9. "..."
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Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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Deadzombie
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11. "very well-stated."
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cgonz00cc
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13. "oh."
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BlassFemur
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Thu Mar-19-15 02:18 PM

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8. "Exactly"
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There's a whole lot of folks with credentials lying to our asses on the daily.

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John Forte
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3. "It's a good thing"
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Frank Longo
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5. "I'm confused by the second option."
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If an opinion is qualified, then it's being limited in some way, or its bias is being discussed.

Do you mean the opinion-maker needs to have qualifications of some sort?

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10. "The problem is the listener's inability to assess an opinion."
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Not that they exist. Credibility or qualifications is just one component of judging a statement. Possible to be qualified and wrong as shit of course.

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Selassie I God
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12. "The usage of "credentials" to legitimize or discredit an opinion"
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in and of itself is the problem most of the time.

Of course, someone with formal education on a topic, or experience in a certain field, lends some credibility to what they say.

However, the fact that a person doesn't have a doctorate in political science doesn't necessarily make their statement on political affairs irrelevant, similar to how the fact that a former NFL player's opinion of the game isn't always superior to a fan that watches the game with focus.

Unfortunately, the former player always gets the analyst job over the hard working communications guy that has followed sports his entire life. Easier for sports programming directors to legitimize the hire. Same thing happens in news programming, politics, economics, etc.

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