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"Name some entertainers/artist who said F mainstream success. "


  

          

And I am not talking about artist who tried experiments and failed (which is usually followed by trying to return to their original form).

I am talking about an artist who became big, decided it wasn't for them and either walked away from it all or just went back to doing small stuff they were comfortable with.


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Erykah Badu
Mar 19th 2015
1
Yeah, I was thinking her, D'angelo, Mos Def, Lauren Hill, Dave Chappelle
Mar 19th 2015
2
      I don't think you can include L-Boogie or D'Angleo
Mar 19th 2015
6
      first of all Lauryn is not crazy
Mar 19th 2015
16
      based on the reporting of her antics if she ain't I don't know who is.
Mar 19th 2015
19
      then you don't know what is.
Mar 20th 2015
97
      sexist? LOL.. wtf. now THAT is crazy.
Mar 19th 2015
29
      crazy is as crazy does
Mar 19th 2015
38
      Her DJ AND Bassist told me countless stories. She's crazy.
Mar 19th 2015
65
      LOL. she's crazy
Mar 19th 2015
78
      She is not crazy, she is just terrible to her fans
Mar 20th 2015
120
      i wouldn't include Badu.
Mar 19th 2015
48
      Why Dave don't count? he seems like a perfect example.
Mar 19th 2015
21
      he doesn't count because he is the perfect example
Mar 19th 2015
23
      I missed the "walked away from it all". RIF
Mar 19th 2015
32
      I missed the "walked away from it all". RIF
Mar 19th 2015
33
      mos def? lol
Mar 19th 2015
42
           An indy produced for 12M that no one has seen.
Mar 20th 2015
92
                that M means million right?
Mar 20th 2015
113
dave chappelle
Mar 19th 2015
3
Rick Morranis
Mar 19th 2015
4
good one
Mar 19th 2015
39
Charles Grodin.
Mar 19th 2015
5
Plus Dennis Quaid became the perfect age to do Charles Grodin stuff.
Mar 19th 2015
13
anita baker
Mar 19th 2015
7
What happened to her?
Mar 19th 2015
31
      she pulled a rick moranis
Mar 20th 2015
85
           uh..she was blackballed etc by the industry
Mar 20th 2015
95
                RE: uh..she was blackballed etc by the industry
Mar 21st 2015
130
does lisa fischer count?
Mar 19th 2015
8
she still sings
Mar 20th 2015
79
      RE: she just eased the fuck back
Mar 20th 2015
125
Skeet Ulrich
Mar 19th 2015
9
Lisa Bonet, Randy Quaid
Mar 19th 2015
10
Kurt Cobain
Mar 19th 2015
11
Damn
Mar 19th 2015
20
Ouch.
Mar 20th 2015
108
chrisette michelle
Mar 19th 2015
12
who?
Mar 19th 2015
41
      ppbbtt-
Mar 20th 2015
126
Micky Rourke
Mar 19th 2015
14
Russell Brand has now patented this.
Mar 19th 2015
15
i was wondering
Mar 19th 2015
36
Chris Tucker
Mar 19th 2015
17
He ain't walk away from it all...he got too greedy and folks stopped
Mar 19th 2015
35
      Nah. He doesn't want to be a star. He collects them Rush Hour checks
Mar 19th 2015
43
           look up the offer Tucker tried to counter Tarantino/Weinstein when
Mar 19th 2015
46
                And who was the source of that story? Harvey Weinstein. Folk need...
Mar 19th 2015
53
John Lennon?
Mar 19th 2015
18
Aka the Bill Withers post.
Mar 19th 2015
22
yep.
Mar 20th 2015
109
      that was a great doc
Mar 20th 2015
115
           The filmmaker has a kickstarter for another doc. Please support.
Mar 20th 2015
122
Flip Wilson.
Mar 19th 2015
24
Curren$y
Mar 19th 2015
25
but he never tasted mainstream success
Mar 19th 2015
34
      meh, he was signed to Young Money initially
Mar 19th 2015
      yeah before it popped though...He was signed to No Limit first...
Mar 19th 2015
44
           yea, that sounds close enough
Mar 19th 2015
45
                Where the Cash At was big around here.
Mar 19th 2015
74
      meh, he was signed to Young Money initially
Mar 19th 2015
40
John Coltrane, Shuggie Otis
Mar 19th 2015
26
neither shuggie otis nor paul mooney had a shot at mainstream success.
Mar 20th 2015
110
      I think Shuggie Otis definitely had a *shot* at mainstream, commercial
Mar 20th 2015
112
      shuggie otis was before his time.
Mar 20th 2015
127
      Quincy wanted to work with Shuggie
Mar 21st 2015
132
MF DOOM
Mar 19th 2015
27
huh? That Iron Mask has made him more famous
Mar 19th 2015
30
      Is he mainstream though?
Mar 19th 2015
49
Sinead O'Connor.
Mar 19th 2015
28
fame walked away from most of the people I think of..
Mar 19th 2015
37
Ndegeocello
Mar 19th 2015
47
the correct answer
Mar 19th 2015
52
      no. no she couldn't.
Mar 19th 2015
56
      Stop bursting my bubble...lol
Mar 20th 2015
84
      not a 'pop' star, but rnb star
Mar 19th 2015
59
           i dunno that she could do that either.
Mar 19th 2015
60
                I agree with your other post even though Im tryna find this...
Mar 19th 2015
61
                     she was never big though.
Mar 19th 2015
62
                          true
Mar 19th 2015
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                          no mention of her big hit with John Mellencamp?
Mar 20th 2015
94
                               that was an overall flop too though
Mar 20th 2015
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                               yup.
Mar 20th 2015
104
RE: Name some entertainers/artist who said F mainstream success.
Mar 19th 2015
50
Nah, D just couldn't keep it together
Mar 19th 2015
54
think D walked away.
Mar 19th 2015
70
      pretty sure the drank and drugs had something to do with it
Mar 20th 2015
83
RE: Name some entertainers/artist who said F mainstream success.
Mar 19th 2015
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Funny...I just finished reading this article on the Alabama Shakes...
Mar 19th 2015
51
Terrence Trent D'arby
Mar 19th 2015
55
He made several major labels albums after his hit debut with videos too
Mar 19th 2015
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and they were all flops
Mar 19th 2015
67
Good answer
Mar 19th 2015
64
He made those albums.
Mar 19th 2015
66
      RE: He made those albums.
Mar 19th 2015
69
           Flopped but he was still a name and could've kept ...
Mar 19th 2015
72
btw Symphony or Damn was my shit
Mar 19th 2015
68
man listen.
Mar 20th 2015
93
      we saw his tour of that album..it was GOOD
Mar 20th 2015
98
He's touched! Have you heard/seen/read any of his interviews? This one.....
Mar 20th 2015
111
      yup. bat shit cray.
Mar 20th 2015
114
Funny thing with L Boogie she puts out ish that flops but we
Mar 19th 2015
71
*edit*
Mar 19th 2015
73
for now, the Joffrey kid.
Mar 19th 2015
75
Yep.
Mar 20th 2015
100
Radiohead and Bjork and Tool
Mar 19th 2015
76
Charles Hamilton
Mar 19th 2015
77
nah that nigga just went crazy
Mar 20th 2015
80
      THAT'S SEXEDIST!!!
Mar 20th 2015
88
James Murphy/LCD Soundsystem
Mar 20th 2015
81
^^^YUP
Mar 20th 2015
86
Eddie Murphy in regards to stand-up.
Mar 20th 2015
82
Sia kinda.
Mar 20th 2015
87
can we say Monique?
Mar 20th 2015
89
no.
Mar 20th 2015
90
that's not entirely true
Mar 20th 2015
116
      great.
Mar 20th 2015
117
Monique falls in the category of just blowing Mainstream success.
Mar 20th 2015
91
99 posts in and no one mentioned the 'Boys' - they did a complete
Mar 20th 2015
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as far as I'm concerned, there could be 3,000 replies and it would be
Mar 20th 2015
101
lol
Mar 20th 2015
102
lol eh I like The Boys - they were one of the few boy bands that
Mar 20th 2015
103
180, not 360.
Mar 20th 2015
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      RE:well you know what I meant haha
Mar 20th 2015
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      I had a woman tell me her man did a 360 and totally changed
Mar 20th 2015
107
Kurt Cobain?? He didn't quite walk away
Mar 20th 2015
118
johnny Depp walked away
Mar 20th 2015
119
Briefly...he walked right back
Mar 20th 2015
124
I think Lou Reed qualifies...
Mar 20th 2015
121
Pearl Jam. They're still caking, but they walked away from mainstream
Mar 20th 2015
123
cat stevens
Mar 21st 2015
128
savion glover, bobby mcferrin ?
Mar 21st 2015
129
zach de la rocha
Mar 21st 2015
131
Alex Chilton
Mar 21st 2015
133

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1. "Erykah Badu"
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2. "Yeah, I was thinking her, D'angelo, Mos Def, Lauren Hill, Dave Chappelle"
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It's kind of interesting that they all come from the same clique.


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6. "I don't think you can include L-Boogie or D'Angleo"
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and honestly, not even Dave. They simply stopped putting out new material; L-Boogie because she's crazy, and not the one-woman shop she purported to be, D because of his demons and Dave beacuse...

  

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16. "first of all Lauryn is not crazy"
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i find that assertion to be annoying and sexist. eccentric might be a better word. just saying

  

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19. "based on the reporting of her antics if she ain't I don't know who is."
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97. "then you don't know what is."
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29. "sexist? LOL.. wtf. now THAT is crazy. "
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but not as crazy as Lauryn

  

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78. "LOL. she's crazy"
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48. "i wouldn't include Badu."
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she definitely tries it.

fuck you.

  

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21. "Why Dave don't count? he seems like a perfect example. "
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23. "he doesn't count because he is the perfect example"
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32. "I missed the "walked away from it all". RIF"
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33. "I missed the "walked away from it all". RIF"
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42. "mos def? lol"
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He was just in a movie starring Jennifer Aniston

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92. "An indy produced for 12M that no one has seen. "
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5. "Charles Grodin."
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Though he's appearing in a movie or two again this year. He left being a big screen guy to do political stuff.

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31. "What happened to her?"
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she wanted to raise her kids

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95. "uh..she was blackballed etc by the industry"
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130. "RE: uh..she was blackballed etc by the industry"
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>>she wanted to raise her kids
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Blackballed? Can you go into more detail? I thought her absence for so long had to do with her loss of recorded music (for her next album) when the equipment failed (?). As I remember, there was no back-up of what had already been recorded.

  

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8. "does lisa fischer count?"
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i'm not sure how to gauge her mainstreaminess

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79. "she still sings"
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she just eased the fuck back


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125. "RE: she just eased the fuck back"
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10. "Lisa Bonet, Randy Quaid"
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But I think Randy's gone mad.

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20. "Damn"
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108. "Ouch."
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12. "chrisette michelle"
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41. "who?"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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126. "ppbbtt-"
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CHRISETTE MICHELE

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14. "Micky Rourke"
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15. "Russell Brand has now patented this."
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he walked away from Hollywood in 2012 and is full on using his celebrity for activism.

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36. "i was wondering"
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17. "Chris Tucker"
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35. "He ain't walk away from it all...he got too greedy and folks stopped"
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fuckin' with him.

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43. "Nah. He doesn't want to be a star. He collects them Rush Hour checks"
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because he likes money. The man has made ONE non-Rush Hour film since 1997. He enjoys his private life.

  

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46. "look up the offer Tucker tried to counter Tarantino/Weinstein when "
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they offered to give him 50% profit on a comedy stand up movie they were interested in producing of him.


Chris was gonna get 50%; Tarantino 25% and Weinstein 25.

Chris came back and said he wanted 90% and they could divide the other 10%.


He didn't see work again in a movie for 10+ years until Weinstein offered him that small roll in Silver Linings Playbook

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53. "And who was the source of that story? Harvey Weinstein. Folk need..."
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to be more critical of what you read.

I am not taking the word of a meglomaniac on face value over the brother like that.

At least consider there might be another side to that story.


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18. "John Lennon?"
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22. "Aka the Bill Withers post. "
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109. "yep."
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man, i love the 'still bill' documentary.

  

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115. "that was a great doc"
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i didn't know so much.
it made me wish that we didn't know so much about our current celebs so finding out things years later could be a treasure vs. just another twitter post.

  

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122. "The filmmaker has a kickstarter for another doc. Please support. "
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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2076824259/the-house-on-coco-road-grenada-documentary


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24. "Flip Wilson."
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fuck you.

  

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25. "Curren$y"
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or insert any rapper who decided that album sales wasn't going to put food on their table and so they pretty much either went independent or copped a deal that allowed a ton of freedom

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34. "but he never tasted mainstream success"
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"meh, he was signed to Young Money initially"


  

          

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44. "yeah before it popped though...He was signed to No Limit first..."
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i don't think he walked away...he just took the avenue necessary for him to maintain. He never achieved a mainstream level to walk away from.

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45. "yea, that sounds close enough"
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he and cash money said it was he who walked away though...

and based on his reasons why is pretty much the only reason i thought of him in this post...

he basically made it seem like they wanted him to compromise too much to go that mainstream route...

but you're right that he didn't really have any mainstreams hits...he had one or 2 features...

i give him honorable mention for peeping game early though cause most would have tried to fit that square peg in that round hole in that situation

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74. "Where the Cash At was big around here."
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and his verses on the mixtapes always caught attention (throw the Bentley off a cliff / call that a Bentley drop...)

I fully buy he just didn't want to rap like that anymore, but they probably weren't pushing him either. His first mixtape run after he left was FULL of mid-90s New York jazz beats before he hooked up with Monster Beatz to make that Neptunes album, and then Ski and his current crew brought him back jazz's way for the most part. He knew what he wanted.

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40. "meh, he was signed to Young Money initially"
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Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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26. "John Coltrane, Shuggie Otis"
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Paul Mooney

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110. "neither shuggie otis nor paul mooney had a shot at mainstream success."
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112. "I think Shuggie Otis definitely had a *shot* at mainstream, commercial "
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success

especially if he had went ahead and worked w/Quincy Jones for his 4th album

But there have been all sorts of stories I've heard/read as to why he didn't become a bigger star

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127. "shuggie otis was before his time."
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132. "Quincy wanted to work with Shuggie"
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Shuggie had a rep of being hard to work with said fuck the industry literally.

Paul Mooney wrote for Richard Pryor he said fuck white people never kissed ass and maintained his integrity. He is arguably the best comedian of all time.

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27. "MF DOOM "
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30. "huh? That Iron Mask has made him more famous"
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than anything he did previously.

  

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49. "Is he mainstream though? "
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28. "Sinead O'Connor."
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www.somethinginthewudder.com

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37. "fame walked away from most of the people I think of.. "
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47. "Ndegeocello"
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52. "the correct answer"
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she could be a pop star if she wanted.
she's been bent on only doing what she feels like for a long time now.



  

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56. "no. no she couldn't."
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>she could be a pop star if she wanted.
>she's been bent on only doing what she feels like for a long
>time now.

she can't write Pop. and that's fine.

i think most of the ppl listed in this post don't have what it takes to be mainstream stars. so they didn't exactly make a 'choice' not to be mainstream. and several of them actually tried it and didn't make it and then kept on keeping on anyway. that's not exactly walking away from mainstream success.

anyway, Meshell didn't walk away from mainstream success. she never really had it. and she's not that type of entertainer - which is just fine. no shade.

fuck you.

  

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84. "Stop bursting my bubble...lol"
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I NEED to believe this.

  

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59. "not a 'pop' star, but rnb star"
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>she could be a pop star if she wanted.
>she's been bent on only doing what she feels like for a long
>time now.
>
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60. "i dunno that she could do that either."
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she has tried it before (see: Cookie) and it didn't work out.

i don't think she can make music that'll be adored by millions. and that's fine. i like what she does and i don't want her to do anything else.

fuck you.

  

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61. "I agree with your other post even though Im tryna find this..."
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Madonna statement about Mehsell and Maverick cuting ties. Mad stated that mehsell just doesnt want to even attempt at being a star or recognized and thats hard for a record company to deal with as they tried to promote her etc etc

it made it seem like they tried to pop her etc but she was not having any of it. I know you stated that Meshell doesnt fir a pop aesthetic anyways and I agree but that Madonna letter was kind of telling in that it shows she kind of was opposed to being one/walking away


>she has tried it before (see: Cookie) and it didn't work
>out.
>
>i don't think she can make music that'll be adored by
>millions. and that's fine. i like what she does and i don't
>want her to do anything else.

  

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62. "she was never big though."
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the OP seeks acts who became big and decided that life wasn't for them and walked away.

Meshell wasn't ever big. she was on the verge of breaking out after her debut but then her follow-up kinda fizzled (i love that album) as did her 3rd.

fuck you.

  

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63. "true"
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true

>the OP seeks acts who became big and decided that life wasn't
>for them and walked away.
>
>Meshell wasn't ever big. she was on the verge of breaking out
>after her debut but then her follow-up kinda fizzled (i love
>that album) as did her 3rd.

  

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94. "no mention of her big hit with John Mellencamp?"
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>the OP seeks acts who became big and decided that life wasn't
>for them and walked away.
>
>Meshell wasn't ever big. she was on the verge of breaking out
>after her debut but then her follow-up kinda fizzled (i love
>that album) as did her 3rd.

i thought that was going to propel her a little bit more. not sure if she backed up intentionally or not.

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96. "that was an overall flop too though"
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>>the OP seeks acts who became big and decided that life
>wasn't
>>for them and walked away.
>>
>>Meshell wasn't ever big. she was on the verge of breaking
>out
>>after her debut but then her follow-up kinda fizzled (i love
>>that album) as did her 3rd.
>
>i thought that was going to propel her a little bit more. not
>sure if she backed up intentionally or not.
>

  

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104. "yup."
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1. that was a guest appearance on HIS record.

2. she at least tried it w/Cookie after that. so even if that record brought her mainstream success she didn't walk away from fame after that hit so she still wouldn't belong on the list being generated in this post.

fuck you.

  

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50. "RE: Name some entertainers/artist who said F mainstream success. "
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What is considered walking away? Like leaving ALL the money on the table a la dave chapelle or taking control over your private life and moving out of ny/la like Bruce Willis/Demi

Cuz some of the people mentioned here are famous regardless. Russell Brand left money on the table but he can be on any morning show he wants and millions of people watch his videos.. so he is manipulating fame but not really walking away from it..

Arguably Chappelle is in a similar boat.. he is so big that even after he left he can do 10 sold out shows at radio city...

Or do you mean more of a one hit then said eff that and never made another record like that.. err homey Asher Roth comes to mind

I'd say D definitely walked away...

Lauryn.. hmm dunno.. because honestly.. she sold like 30 million records in only 2 albums.. where does she go from there?

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54. "Nah, D just couldn't keep it together"
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70. " think D walked away. "
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I always found this quote telling.

"I'm going to go in the woods, drink some hooch, grow a beard, and get fat."


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83. "pretty sure the drank and drugs had something to do with it"
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58. "RE: Name some entertainers/artist who said F mainstream success. "
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>What is considered walking away? Like leaving ALL the money
>on the table a la dave chapelle or taking control over your
>private life and moving out of ny/la like Bruce Willis/Demi

to me it's leaving money on the table.

>Cuz some of the people mentioned here are famous regardless.
>Russell Brand left money on the table but he can be on any
>morning show he wants and millions of people watch his
>videos.. so he is manipulating fame but not really walking
>away from it..

agreed.

>Arguably Chappelle is in a similar boat.. he is so big that
>even after he left he can do 10 sold out shows at radio
>city...

yeah but i think he walked away. so if he and Brand are similarly situated then i'd agree they both walked away.

>Or do you mean more of a one hit then said eff that and never
>made another record like that.. err homey Asher Roth comes to
>mind
>
>I'd say D definitely walked away...

naw. if he never made another record or if he'd stepped out of popular music i'd agree.

>Lauryn.. hmm dunno.. because honestly.. she sold like 30
>million records in only 2 albums.. where does she go from
>there?

she hasn't exactly walked away either b/c she keeps performing. so i dunno.

fuck you.

  

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51. "Funny...I just finished reading this article on the Alabama Shakes... "
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Right before coming back to OKP and seeing this post. Brittany Howard talks about this same thing.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/22/magazine/alabama-shakess-soul-stirring-shape-shifting-new-sound.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=mini-moth®ion=top-stories-below&WT.nav=top-stories-below

I've heard a lot of artists say it's not about the money (usually before blowing up) a million times. But for some reason, I really believe it coming from her (at least for now).

  

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55. "Terrence Trent D'arby "
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Eclectic Soul/Sunday, 2-4 PM est/89.3 WCSB.ORG

  

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57. "He made several major labels albums after his hit debut with videos too"
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not exactly walking away from being big.

  

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67. "and they were all flops"
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>not exactly walking away from being big.

  

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64. "Good answer "
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He could've made 2 or 3 more albums like hardline and been huge

But he went in a different direction musically.

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66. "He made those albums."
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They flopped - Symphony or Damn and Vibrator.

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69. "RE: He made those albums."
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I guess so because he was still trying to be a star

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72. "Flopped but he was still a name and could've kept ..."
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Chasing that Hardline fame
He said F it and is doing his own thing in his own world

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68. "btw Symphony or Damn was my shit "
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93. "man listen. "
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98. "we saw his tour of that album..it was GOOD "
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111. "He's touched! Have you heard/seen/read any of his interviews? This one....."
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"Michael used his tremendous influence and control of the Beatles’ catalog to ensure that my way was compromised. I can honestly stand before God at Judgment and testify that the great Master Jackson was a bona fide, life changing ‘pain in my ass’, the 800 pound Gorilla in the room never mentioned but always felt, if not seen. He hated me…and yet, circumstances being as we find them, none of that made him any less a Hero to me for all that he had already done to inspire my youth, and coming together as a servant of the music.”

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114. "yup. bat shit cray."
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fuck you.

  

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71. "Funny thing with L Boogie she puts out ish that flops but we"
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collective forget and keep waiting for her to make a comeback.

I don't think though she has tried to make a popular work though.

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73. "*edit*"
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y'all already said rick moranis

  

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75. "for now, the Joffrey kid."
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dude went ahead and created one of the most memorable TV villains of the last several years and then said fuck y'all I'm going back to school, acting's not all that.


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100. "Yep."
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76. "Radiohead and Bjork and Tool"
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I know they are huge, but you don't see them pandering for the mainstream spotlight. Radiohead even released a pay what you want album, mainstream artists don't do that.

~Experience is the currency of the soul.

  

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77. "Charles Hamilton"
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Nigga said fuck interviews, fuck my label, and fuck an entire city.

  

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80. "nah that nigga just went crazy"
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88. "THAT'S SEXEDIST!!! "
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81. "James Murphy/LCD Soundsystem"
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Apparently big popstars hit him up looking for bangers. He wasn't down.

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86. "^^^YUP"
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he definitely said he likes being able to walk down the street without anyone really recognizing him and he disbanded the group so that could happen

homeboy djing like a mofo though. nancy whang too

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82. "Eddie Murphy in regards to stand-up."
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He could sell out stadiums now if he wanted to do a "big comeback." He just chillin tho.

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87. "Sia kinda."
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she's kind of allowing the popularity though and trying to work around it (hiding her face, etc)

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89. "can we say Monique?"
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90. "no."
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she salty b/c she wants to be in the game but can't get hired. she hasn't walked away - she was locked out.

fuck you.

  

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116. "that's not entirely true"
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she was being offered roles and she didn't like them. she didn't think she should have to only play stereotypical roles after winning an oscar.

her producers were salty though that she didn't campaign more for the film... and they def released a lot of 'she's difficult to work with' sort of comments in retaliation to her not coming to Cannes....

  

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117. "great."
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she still didn't walk away b/c if she had she wouldn't be on her current 'Lee Daniels wants to cast me to play every woman but he can't b/c i've been blacklisted' media blitz.

fuck you.

  

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91. "Monique falls in the category of just blowing Mainstream success. "
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99. "99 posts in and no one mentioned the 'Boys' - they did a complete"
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360 in their music careers

They grew locks and moved to West Africa and now go by the name "Suns Of Light"

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101. "as far as I'm concerned, there could be 3,000 replies and it would be "
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understandable that no mention of the Boys was posted.

  

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102. "lol"
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103. "lol eh I like The Boys - they were one of the few boy bands that"
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had some talent 

There drop-off was so radical to me...probably because I was
living in Atlanta and would see them from time to time around
the city and just be amazed how they went from this 90s bubble
gum r&b group to now singing abt world peace and dressing
like Rastas.


>understandable that no mention of the Boys was posted.

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105. "180, not 360."
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fuck you.

  

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106. "RE:well you know what I meant haha"
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107. "I had a woman tell me her man did a 360 and totally changed"
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I tried to explain it to her but she wouldn't conceded. I even stood up and turned around and said "see, its the same thing"

she hit me with a "fuck you" and did a 180 on me.

I was like "now you get it"

  

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118. "Kurt Cobain?? He didn't quite walk away"
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But definitely said F success

  

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119. "johnny Depp walked away"
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But mainstream success just followed him

  

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124. "Briefly...he walked right back"
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Pirates wasn't exactly some mom and pop movie...he knew what he was signing up for...even if he didn't anticipate it being the hit it became it was still a Disney/bruckheimer production

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121. "I think Lou Reed qualifies..."
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He had released the genuinely successful "Sally can't dance" (his earlier records were critically acclaimed and "cult" but not really successful even if "Transformer" was big in england due to the glam-rock/bowie-connection) where he worked with Steve Katz of Blood, Sweat& tears, complete with "crack" session-musicians and big horn arrangements and shit.

His next studio-album however was the double instrumental noise LP "Metal Machine Music" which at the time was considered one of the most unlistenable albums ever made (I think it's pretty cool but I like noise) and then spent the rest of the 70's doing what the fuck he wanted. While I guess some later albums like "New York" became fairly successful, they were just blips on the radar in the grand scheme of his discography. Basically, I think he prefered to be an underdog/cult-artist rather than a big star...

  

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123. "Pearl Jam. They're still caking, but they walked away from mainstream"
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super stardom. Going from being poster boys of the grunge era to giving a big 'fuck you' to mainstream media outlets. I'm not even sure if they made any MTV videos post TEN. There may have been or two for Vs., but I honestly can't remember any.

  

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128. "cat stevens"
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129. "savion glover, bobby mcferrin ?"
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not sure exactly what the backstories are but it probably applies to them

"i fear no fate" e.e. cummings
"No girl. No fried chicken. I'm going back to get some sleep." - Haruki Murakami

  

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131. "zach de la rocha"
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133. "Alex Chilton"
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n/m

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