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MrThomas43423
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"Can We Do a Game of Thrones S5 Post for the Book Readers?"


  

          

yeah, yeah, yeah. we read the books. there were words and paper and pages, and we turned em and now we know what happens. that's nobody's fault. especially those who didn't read the books. now that i've said that...this post will spoil it for you if you haven't read the books. and the same way you've made your choice not to read the books (which is perfectly acceptable), you should make a choice now to click back on this post if you don't want to know what happens. you have the option now. that's all i'm saying.
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okay. so what are you looking forward to seeing in Season 5. i got a few things:

- giants. can't get enough of those fucking giants. and when the wildlings are taken in at the wall and given the other strongholds and castles, they take in a giant. i'm looking forward to that.

- House Martell. I wanna see what Dorne is all about. the water gardens and all that. plus…the way the book describes Adrianne Martell it sounds like she has a fantastic rack and i'm looking forward to seeing who they have play her and how she stacks up to the book's description.

- Sam and Gilly. Sam finally gets some ass. i like their story. i look forward to the voyage and everything with Maester Aemon too.

- Daenarys and the dragons. that whole scene in the pit with the dragons torching everyone should be fun. and the whole Quentyn Martell trying to cuff a dragon. i wanna see him get roasted. i also want to see if he's portrayed as a villian or as a hero. a misguided hero. cause his arc can go either way.

- Lady Fucking Smallwood and the whole Brotherhood Without Banners. get get Lady Smallwood and they get the Hound on their side. a ghost and a killer. i wanna see what happens with them and how they portray everything.

its so much stuff, and i'm beyond excited. what's on your radar for this upcoming season.
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Dorne
Mar 17th 2015
1
Based on replies in the post about S5 trailer...
Mar 18th 2015
2
this is what I was trying to say to very effortless about house Martell
Mar 18th 2015
4
I am very intrigued about Jamie going to Dorne
Mar 18th 2015
8
yeah thats completely left! i guess its a kind of stand-in/merge
Mar 19th 2015
10
RE: I am very intrigued about Jamie going to Dorne
Mar 30th 2015
111
Oh, I got it about House Martell on second watch of the trailer
Mar 24th 2015
20
      Ahhh I see. That won't be as good but may yet serve
Mar 24th 2015
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roy dotrice is unintentially funny. He does some voices completely wrong
Mar 18th 2015
6
      Re: Davos and Dotrice
Mar 18th 2015
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           LMAO
Mar 19th 2015
11
this is dance with dragons right?
Mar 18th 2015
3
It's a Feast and Dance, which makes sense. Enuff for s5 and s6
Mar 18th 2015
5
From io9: Game of Thrones Season 5 Plot Probabilities (link)
Mar 18th 2015
9
that was good
Mar 19th 2015
12
aight....that was the shit.
Mar 24th 2015
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We may get The Winds of Winter in 2015 after all!
Mar 24th 2015
13
its no reason it shouldnt be, i was really surprised when it was
Mar 24th 2015
14
That's far from a "definitive" statement
Mar 24th 2015
15
It's more definitive than anything he has said prior to that statement
Mar 24th 2015
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*wood*
Mar 24th 2015
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*lady wood* - for real, I'm taking off work the week this book comes out
Mar 24th 2015
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      Ugh. Two days, I got to savor that shit. It'll be the highlight of my
Mar 24th 2015
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      I tend to binge.. no patience
Mar 24th 2015
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      i'll probably wait a month
Mar 24th 2015
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meh
Mar 24th 2015
26
yeah, he loves the trolling
Mar 24th 2015
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      yep
Mar 24th 2015
35
wrong, wrong
Mar 24th 2015
38
      FOH, ppl would riot
Mar 26th 2015
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           I love how he's like "wrong" and then throws out an arbitrary year
Mar 26th 2015
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           they'll bitch, moan, keep waiting...and buy it
Mar 26th 2015
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                Eh, the TV show wasn't as much of a factor back then.
Mar 26th 2015
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                     that's true
Mar 26th 2015
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                          Oh, I'm sure everyone (myself included) will still buy it.
Mar 26th 2015
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*crosses arms* I'm here for Arya
Mar 24th 2015
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I refuse to believe he is dead. He will be reborn among salt and smoke.
Mar 24th 2015
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      *hugs and clings*
Mar 24th 2015
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      Yeah he ain't dead. And I'm of a mind that I dont even want his body to
Mar 26th 2015
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           I don't think his body is dead or that Melisandre is going to revive him
Mar 26th 2015
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I also wanna see if they completely ruin cersei like GRR Martin did lol
Mar 24th 2015
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Being able to plot to kill someone doesn't make her a great ruler
Mar 24th 2015
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Yeah good points
Mar 24th 2015
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give it up
Mar 24th 2015
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      About Sansa...
Mar 25th 2015
40
Game of Thrones Creators Confirm the Show Will Spoil the Books
Mar 24th 2015
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hmpf. I thought season 5 and 6 would be books 4 and 5
Mar 24th 2015
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i thought so too, thank goodness that's not the case.
Mar 24th 2015
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i know
Mar 24th 2015
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Season 5 will be "mostly safe" [swipe]
Mar 26th 2015
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"New" tinfoil hat theory: Are Daario and Euron the same person? (LINK)
Mar 26th 2015
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I don't believe that one at all
Mar 26th 2015
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The most convincing theories besides R + L = J are :
Mar 26th 2015
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      RE: The most convincing theories besides R + L = J are :
Mar 26th 2015
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      I agree with the first two... Idk about Tyrion as a Targaryean
Mar 26th 2015
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your top 5 characters
Mar 26th 2015
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u think th actress that plays asha greyjoy (yara) is hot?
Mar 26th 2015
45
naw i mean the way shes written...this is abt the books nm
Mar 26th 2015
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      Oh gotcha, anybody that had appeared on the show is how they are in
Mar 26th 2015
RE: your top 5 characters
Mar 26th 2015
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RE: your top 5 characters
Mar 26th 2015
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this is hard:
Mar 26th 2015
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Arya, Jon, Varys, Tyrion, Jamie
Mar 26th 2015
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he originally marched when he thought he could save his pops and
Mar 26th 2015
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RIP Oberyn
Mar 26th 2015
57
Honestly, I liked him better in the show than the books
Mar 26th 2015
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      i agree 100%. that's also why from a reader's perspective...
Mar 26th 2015
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      ^^^^
Mar 26th 2015
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           i've noticed that Martin meets deadlines at the ends of his books
Mar 26th 2015
77
Eh, Edmure kinda boned the whole thing for Robb
Mar 26th 2015
79
      Yeah Robb shoulda told edmure exactly what he wanted. That's more
Mar 26th 2015
85
In no order:
Mar 26th 2015
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I love the blackfish and selmy. Queen of thorns is better on the show
Mar 26th 2015
55
She talked some great shit at Joffrey's wedding as well.
Mar 26th 2015
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Oh yeah how could I forget that great line she said about the RoC lmao
Mar 26th 2015
65
Shit, I left Bronn off. Replace the Queen of Thorns with him
Mar 26th 2015
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Blackfish and Selmy were great
Mar 26th 2015
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      That's what I'm hoping for too
Mar 26th 2015
70
      yup! In the books and on the show
Mar 26th 2015
71
I fuck with strong belwas.
Mar 26th 2015
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      Strong Belwas killing Mereen's champ in ASOS = gulliest shit ever
Mar 26th 2015
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      my money is on Blewias
Mar 26th 2015
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           As much as I love Belwas, he'd be redundant on the show
Mar 26th 2015
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                i can see that, but no more than Hodor
Mar 26th 2015
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Blackfish / Queen of Thorns / Jaime / Jon / Sansa
Mar 26th 2015
72
Top 5 alive & Top 5 dead
Mar 26th 2015
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yep @ renly
Mar 26th 2015
86
your dead list is bomb and yes things would have
Mar 26th 2015
97
Top Fives (Supporting and Main characters)
Mar 27th 2015
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      dolorous edd is in my top 8 or so
Mar 27th 2015
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      yeah he's pretty great
Mar 27th 2015
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      Dolorus and his lines make me laugh every time
Mar 27th 2015
107
Let's Talk About the Grand Northern Consipiracy (long but great)
Mar 26th 2015
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Yeah, I love this theory. I hope it holds up
Mar 26th 2015
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      what about Bran
Mar 26th 2015
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           The Grand Northern Conspiracy hinges on the fact that the bulk of the No...
Mar 26th 2015
82
           but eventually...people will know Bran is alive again
Mar 26th 2015
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                RE: but eventually...people will know Bran is alive again ---- HOW?
Mar 26th 2015
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                     they won't have to find him....he's going to leave
Mar 26th 2015
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                          How's he going to leave in the middle of an ice zombie war?
Mar 26th 2015
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                               he's gonna fly.
Mar 26th 2015
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           I think Bran is going to be too caught up with the Three-Eyed Crow...
Mar 26th 2015
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                personally with Bran's warg strength....he's going to tap into a dragon
Mar 26th 2015
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                     I can see that. Especially if it's him wresting controls of the Dragons ...
Mar 26th 2015
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                     I haven't decided whether Brynden Rivers/Bloodraven/TheLastGreenseer/
Mar 26th 2015
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Btw I cannot wait for the battle of mereen and stannis v roose
Mar 26th 2015
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If/when it happens. I expect Roose to escape.
Mar 26th 2015
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      oh yeah i imagine he will too, I'm talking crushing his host. He won't d...
Mar 26th 2015
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ok just saw that mountain v oberyn fight again this time on the big
Mar 26th 2015
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Will Stannis survive this series?
Mar 28th 2015
108
i dont think so
Mar 30th 2015
109
so i saw the first ep of S5 last nite!!!!!!!!!! on the big screen
Mar 30th 2015
110
Martin posts new Alayne/Sansa chapter:
Apr 02nd 2015
112
I made a new post about it rather than upping this one
Apr 02nd 2015
113
      The one to watch is Ser Shadrich, the "Mouse"
Apr 02nd 2015
114

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1. "Dorne"
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Sand Snakes should be dope (even though we don't get all of them)

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2. "Based on replies in the post about S5 trailer..."
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seems like the show runners are cutting a lot of stuff out. The Martells are being stripped down to the Sand Snakes and Trystan Martell. Arianne was scrapped, and I'm pissed about that. The changes in the show are throwing me off, but I don't really care about being spoiled,as of yet. Also, I'm not sure if Sam is going to the citadel yet. They haven't released all the deets. People are frothing at the mouth about the upcoming season and the trailers have been examined so closely. I'm still hyped about the new season.

Speaking of the books, I've started a "re-read" via audiobooks. That man Roy Dotrice is talented as hell! I feel like I'm standing right there watching everything go down. I cannot get enough of this series right now. I don't have anyone to talk about the books with, tho.

  

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4. "this is what I was trying to say to very effortless about house Martell"
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But she wasn't getting it. I'm really disappointed by stripping down house martell

I'm resolved to just enjoy the show as a song of ice and fire light and accept the visual they give.

I wanna see brienne and pod, cersei's rise and fall, iron islands, sams journey to the citadel, Tyrion in the free cities, Davos in white harbour, and their version of dorne

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8. "I am very intrigued about Jamie going to Dorne"
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will he be seduced by one of the sand snakes?
Will we get to meet the darkstar?

  

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10. "yeah thats completely left! i guess its a kind of stand-in/merge"
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of how in the books jamie resolved the remaining fighting in the riverlands and how balon swann went to dorne with the mountain's head*

*(speaking of which seems like the show is following thru with the robert strong is the reincarnated gregor clegane based on last season with qyborn saying "he will be different" when he was "saving" him)

but i think thats gonna be good, just like how i loved the brienne v hound fight that wasnt in the books

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111. "RE: I am very intrigued about Jamie going to Dorne"
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I hope and pray that Jamie does get one of the Sand Snakes and he stays away from his sister. Cersei never truly appreciated all that Jamie has done for her. And, I am glad that they aren't having him race to save her bitch ass!!!!

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20. "Oh, I got it about House Martell on second watch of the trailer"
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Ellaria is going to end up taking on some of Arrianne's plot

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22. "Ahhh I see. That won't be as good but may yet serve "
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>Ellaria is going to end up taking on some of Arrianne's plot

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6. "roy dotrice is unintentially funny. He does some voices completely wrong"
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To me and pronounces things wrong IMO but I roll with it until I can't take any more

I kno it would cost a lot but I would love for them to get the actors from the show and other voice actors to do the audio books

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7. "Re: Davos and Dotrice"
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>To me and pronounces things wrong IMO but I roll with it until I can't take any more

Yes!! The way he says "Melisan-dra" and I think he sometimes says "Jeffrey". I don't like Varys's or Davos's voices. Varys didn't sound womanly like he's been described in the books. The actor nailed it. Davos just sounds wrong wrong wrong to me. I love that character, and I'm committed to the actor who plays him.

Also, Davos at White Harbor! I have to hear Wyman Manderly's speech. That shit has me ready to put on some boiled leather and test out some valyrian steel. I guess I'd have to roll with the Mormonts, tho.

>I kno it would cost a lot but I would love for them to get the
>actors from the show and other voice actors to do the audio
>books
Have you seen these? They're awesome. Apparently these recordings are part of the DVD extras, but this person matches the soundtrack to the histories and lore, with the actors voices. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XSuXBVv4ppY

  

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11. "LMAO"
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I love that character, and I'm committed to the actor who
>plays him.

yes i think the show does such a great job with casting, i started reading the books after watching the first two seasons of the show so i totally picture the actors when i think of the characters
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>Also, Davos at White Harbor! I have to hear Wyman Manderly's
>speech. That shit has me ready to put on some boiled leather
>and test out some valyrian steel. >

!!!!! i love any and all things house manderly and white harbour

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3. "this is dance with dragons right?"
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If so its the best book in the series and this season will be off the hook

  

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5. "It's a Feast and Dance, which makes sense. Enuff for s5 and s6"
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9. "From io9: Game of Thrones Season 5 Plot Probabilities (link)"
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http://observationdeck.io9.com/game-of-thrones-season-5-plot-probabilities-1688788625

  

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12. "that was good"
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17. "aight....that was the shit."
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13. "We may get The Winds of Winter in 2015 after all!"
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http://grrm.livejournal.com/412882.html

Nerd Facts important to these appearance being nixed:
-Saratoga is early November
-San Diego Comicon is July 8-12
-Son of Kong = TWOW

The most imporant line of all:

"(Should I complete and deliver WINDS OF WINTER before these cons roll round, I reserve the right to change my mind)."

IS HE SAYING HE MAY FINISH THE WINDS OF WINTER BEFORE JULY?!?!?!

I never really read to much into his publisher saying it wasn't on the calendar for 2015 because shit gets added to calendars all the time. But this seems like a definitive statement from GRRM that winter is coming sometime in 2015.

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14. "its no reason it shouldnt be, i was really surprised when it was"
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stated it wouldnt be coming out in 2015, how much more could he have to do , the last book came out in 2011.

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15. "That's far from a "definitive" statement"
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It might. Might not.

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16. "It's more definitive than anything he has said prior to that statement"
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18. "*wood*"
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it's true what they say...people are strange, when you're strangers.

not compassionate....only polite.

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19. "*lady wood* - for real, I'm taking off work the week this book comes out"
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downloading it at the stroke of midnight and reading it all in two days and spending the rest of the week posting on internet message boards about the plot.

But not this message board because they hate reading.

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21. "Ugh. Two days, I got to savor that shit. It'll be the highlight of my "
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Commute and bedtime reading

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23. "I tend to binge.. no patience"
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24. "i'll probably wait a month"
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i can be patient in that regard. but when i get it....i'll devour it. i'm gonna eat so much bad food, just so i have to shit. i do a lot of reading on the toilet.
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26. "meh"
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George will do his usual
and i expect nothing until an announcement

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31. "yeah, he loves the trolling"
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35. "yep"
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Always been a I'm done when I'm good and ready writer for two decades
This ain't gonna change it
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38. "wrong, wrong "
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43. "FOH, ppl would riot "
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59. "I love how he's like "wrong" and then throws out an arbitrary year"
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with no backup.

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64. "they'll bitch, moan, keep waiting...and buy it"
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just like the six years between Feast and Dragons

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76. "Eh, the TV show wasn't as much of a factor back then."
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The release of ADWD closely coincided with the S1/S2 of the show. Now, with all the talk of the show spoiling the books, there's more pressure to get something out. Shoot, Martin leaked the Arya chapter right before the S4 premiere, given how one would "spoil" the other.

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92. "that's true"
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plenty of people will still buy it -- longtime readers have resigned themselves to waiting two decades anyway -- but Martin has seen this coming and doesn't seem to care much.

I'd much rather finish the series through the books first, but I'll be watching the show's ending if Martin (likely) doesn't get the books out in time. that's going to take away A LOT from the books if they come afterwards. I'm not sure he realizes this.

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95. "Oh, I'm sure everyone (myself included) will still buy it."
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>plenty of people will still buy it -- longtime readers have
>resigned themselves to waiting two decades anyway -- but
>Martin has seen this coming and doesn't seem to care much.

At this point, Martin is too busy counting his money from the TV series and firmly dug into his "It'll be finished when it's done! Stop rushing me!" mentality for him to write the remaining books with any sort of urgency. Shoot, there was a story a year or so ago about him working with HBO on a "spin-off" series, likely about the Dunk and Egg stories. Which went over like a lead balloon with the book readers.

>I'd much rather finish the series through the books first, but
>I'll be watching the show's ending if Martin (likely) doesn't
>get the books out in time. that's going to take away A LOT
>from the books if they come afterwards. I'm not sure he
>realizes this.

I agree 100% on this. 1. There's no way even if Winds of Winter comes out this year (and it won't), there's no way the seventh book drops before the end of the TV series. And I honestly doubt he can finish the series in seven books anyway.

And yeah, I'll be pretty pissed when it happens, along with the rest of the book readers.

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25. "*crosses arms* I'm here for Arya"
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i forget everything else
it got a lot less interesting until (most recent last book) *spoiler*











































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27. "I refuse to believe he is dead. He will be reborn among salt and smoke."
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34. "*hugs and clings*"
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Pleeeeaaaaasssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
*sobs*

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62. "Yeah he ain't dead. And I'm of a mind that I dont even want his body to"
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Be dead. Don't really want him to be revived by mellisandre either. Not warg into ghost, just want some to stop them in enuff time for him to live. Either way he won't be dead tho

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102. "I don't think his body is dead or that Melisandre is going to revive him"
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I think what's going to happen is that when they go to burn his body, he's going to pull a Dany and be chilling in the ashes naked with Lightbringer and ghost is going to walk up and sit next to him.

Only thing is that he has to go and plunge lightbringer into some woman's chest to make it official and Ygritte is already dead.

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28. "I also wanna see if they completely ruin cersei like GRR Martin did lol"
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Full disclosure I'm obsessed with Lena headey's and the show's cersei. Like I focus on her in every scene she's in, rewind her epic scenes, all that lol

I'm really glad I started watching the show before I read the books cause cersei is such a background (yet important) character in the first 3 books and then when she is fully introduced in Feast she is a paranoid idiot.

Like I just don't see how the architect of ned Starks and king Roberts deaths and her bastard son becoming king could be such an idiot later.

I think the show won't take her that low becuz of the scene when she shrewdly reaches out to Margery to marry tommen, when she stands up to tywin in ep 10 of season 4 and the fact that she comes around to Jaime the last ep and doesn't keep treating him like shit as she does in Feast, plus there is no kettlebecks on the show, which were a large part of her downfall.

I kno she will do the walk of shame but I just hope they don't make her that dumb.

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29. "Being able to plot to kill someone doesn't make her a great ruler"
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If anything, this series is about her difficult it is to be a great or even a good leader or ruler. Robert was a great warrior but a shit king. Stannis knows the rule of law, but can't inspire his subjects. Even well-meaning character like Dany and Jon Snow make what seems like the necessary compromises, but things still go badly for them.

I don't think she's shown necessarily as "dumb" in the books, it's just that she's someone obsessed with herself and revenge. She's a short-term schemer, as opposed to someone like Littlefinger, who's a schemer in it for the long-haul. She mortgages the kingdom's future and makes poor decisions out of her own paranoia, her desire to stay in charge at all costs, and her hatred of Tyrion.

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30. "Yeah good points "
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36. "give it up"
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She's dumb
Sansa is dumb
George better not change shit because dudes thing "their pretty"
It's the whole damn point if their characters
Vapid power grubbing dummies
Let them rot
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40. "About Sansa... "
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I definitely agree that she's vapid and naĂŻve. The only reason I stop short of dumb is because Sansa (and Rickon) are probably the most normal and unimpressive of all the Stark kids, Lol. She's as close to the typical modern teenager that GRRM could place in that world. But that wide-eyed innocence served its purpose in King's Landing. It kept her alive because everyone viewed her as a stupid little non-threatening girl. I see that her character was starting to change and I'm curious to see what that will truly look like. Life has been very cruel to the little bird.

  

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32. "Game of Thrones Creators Confirm the Show Will Spoil the Books"
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http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/03/game-of-thrones-tv-show-will-spoil-books

Game of Thrones Creators Confirm the Show Will Spoil the Books
BY JOANNA ROBINSON
MARCH 22, 2015 9:32 PM

With all the character changes, non-book deaths, and plot alterations in the upcoming season of HBO’s Game of Thrones, you’d be forgiven if you thought the TV show would eventually have nothing whatsoever to do with George R.R. Martin’s books. But you’d be wrong. Show runners Dan Weiss and David Benioff confirmed over the weekend that their show would be ending in the same place as the book series, and sooner than the books as well.

Speaking to the Oxford Union, Benioff addressed the TV series outpacing the books:


Luckily, we’ve been talking about this with George for a long time, ever since we saw this could happen, and we know where things are heading. And so we’ll eventually, basically, meet up at pretty much the same place where George is going; there might be a few deviations along the route, but we’re heading towards the same destination. I kind of wish that there were some things we didn’t have to spoil, but we’re kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place. The show must go on. . .and that’s what we’re going to do.


We’ve known for awhile that Weiss and Benioff knew how Martin planned to end his series. But up until this year, readers were convinced that Martin would at least deliver the long-awaited next book in the series before the show had a chance to outpace him. It’s pretty clear that the upcoming fifth season of Game of Thrones will wrap up the plots of Books 4 and 5 (A Feast for Crows and A Dance with Dragons), leaving everybody, show watchers and book readers alike, in the same place come this year’s season finale a.k.a. in the dark about what will happen next in both Book 6 (The Winds of Winter) and Season 6.

Back in January, Martin’s publisher said she had “no information on likely delivery” of The Winds of Winter, prompting most to conclude that there would be no new book at all in 2015. But Martin has since cancelled several upcoming public appearances at conventions in order to finish Book 6, even teasing that he might finish as early as this summer a.k.a. “before these cons roll round.” Meaning we might get Book 6 before Season 6. Maybe.

But Martin could lock himself away around the clock and he still wouldn’t finish his planned seventh book (A Dream of Spring) before Season 7 of the show rolls around in 2017. Nor would we want him to. Martin’s books are great because he takes his time with the painstaking details. Nobody wants a rush job.

So as things stand, book readers may still have an advantage going into Season 6, but it’s everyone for themselves come Season 7. There are advantages and disadvantages to that arrangement. The obvious advantage being book readers will no longer have to tiptoe around spoilers. The disadvantage being that readers who enjoy the story of Westeros unfolding the way Martin tells it (painstaking details and all), will have to settle for learning how it all ends in an abridged and modified way.

And what will all this do for Martin’s book sales? Will readers be as motivated to buy when they already know how it all ends? Benioff thinks they will. He said,


I think the thing that’s kind of fun for George is the idea that he can still have surprises for people even once they’ve watched the show through to the conclusion. There are certain things that are going to happen in the books that are different in the show, and I think people who love the show and want more—want to know more about the characters, want to know more about the different characters who might not have made the cut for the show—will be able to turn to the books.


How about you, gentle readers, will you be picking up a copy of A Dream of Spring even after the HBO show is over and done with?

You can watch Weiss, Benioff, Kit Harrington, and John Bradley address the Oxford Union in full here:

https://youtu.be/TfvVluNxujc

  

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33. "hmpf. I thought season 5 and 6 would be books 4 and 5"
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I'd rather not have the books spoiled by the show but on the flip I doubt i could wait 4 and 5 years to watch the last season while waiting for the last book

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39. "i thought so too, thank goodness that's not the case."
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It would have been a walking dead season 2 style drawn out bore fest, getting all of the action without sifting thru the boring stuff(and I felt like definitely got sidetracked writing these, no one can be on point with everything all of the time) should make for a GREAT season.

  

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37. "i know "
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It'll be our turn to whine like TV watchers now
Heh
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42. "Season 5 will be "mostly safe" [swipe]"
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"We're not really beyond the books yet," Benioff says. "Thinking about the first scene of the season and the last scene of the season, it’s all still within the novels , so you’re still mostly safe."

http://mashable.com/2015/03/24/game-of-thrones-season-5-producers/

As Mashable first reported last month, it is now inevitable that Game of Thrones the HBO series will overtake A Song of Ice and Fire, the book series on which it is based. George R.R. Martin is definitively not going to finish the final two books of that saga before the show's final season rolls around in two years' time.

Show runners David Benioff and Daniel Weiss confirmed as much last week during a talk at the Oxford Union: they know the major future developments to come in Winds of Winter and Dream of Spring, the two remaining books, and they're going to have to deploy some of them before Martin does.

But despite what you may have read on other websites that misread their comments, Benioff and Weiss confirmed to Mashable that they have absolutely no intention of spoiling you this year. There'll be no book spoilers in season 5 of Game of Thrones, which starts next month.

"We're not really beyond the books yet," Benioff says. "Thinking about the first scene of the season and the last scene of the season, it’s all still within the novels , so you’re still mostly safe."

Warning: A mild spoiler for the books and the show lies ahead.

Some fans have suggested that because the season 5 posters and trailer features Tyrion Lannister (Peter Dinklage) in the shadow of one of Daenerys Targaryen's dragons, this means Tyrion and Daenerys meet in season 5, an event which has not yet occurred in the books. But this does not appear to be the case. Seeing dragons in the sky does not a meeting make.

And as for George R.R. Martin? He's still happily plodding along at his own pace with The Winds of Winter, for which he has "hundreds of pages" already completed.

"I reached a point where I try not to worry about issues like that," Martin told Mashable about the show overtaking the books. "I just get up every day and write the scene that’s in front of me, and go from one chapter to the next chapter, and eventually it’ll be done."

Martin has cancelled a number of appearances at conventions this year, however, so he has more time to dedicate to the roughly 1500-page book. "I'm doing less interviews, trying to cut back on things and have more time to write," he said. But at the end of the day, he's just one man struggling with a manuscript in a machine. (Martin famously writes on an ancient MS-DOS computer using Word Star.)

"Some days I have good days and write a lot of pages," the author says, "and I have really bad days where I look at what I wrote last week and say this is all garbage and I rip it all out and start to revise it. This is nothing new, it’s the way I’ve been writing since I began this whole thing in 1991, and it’s produced books which people seem to like."

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41. ""New" tinfoil hat theory: Are Daario and Euron the same person? (LINK)"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Crn_eg-1ekU

The possibility makes me sense than it probably should, even though it's probably not true. I agree that Euron is certainly playing Victarion tho...

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50. "I don't believe that one at all "
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53. "The most convincing theories besides R + L = J are :"
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The hound is still alive as a monk on the quiet isle

Sarella sand = alleras

And that Tyrion might actually be the mad kings son

The rest are pretty out there to me, like howland read being the high sparrow and Bolton being a skin changer

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56. "RE: The most convincing theories besides R + L = J are :"
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>The hound is still alive as a monk on the quiet isle

This one is a given.

>Sarella sand = alleras

Ditto.

>And that Tyrion might actually be the mad kings son

I don't really believe that one at all.

>The rest are pretty out there to me, like howland read being
>the high sparrow

I think this is more likely than Tyrion being the mad king's son. It's kind of unlikely to me that they'd keep Howland off-page/screen for this long. And the High Sparrow has some other agenda here.

>Bolton being a skin changer

Probably not true, but cool to think about.

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58. "I agree with the first two... Idk about Tyrion as a Targaryean"
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I do think that howland reed is the high sparrow though.

The other conspiracy that I LOVE is the Grand Northern Conspiracy: http://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/1iwfc1/spoilers_all_the_grand_northern_conspiracy_parts/

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44. "your top 5 characters"
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1) jon snow. i just really vibe with dudes grim sense of responsibility & honor

2) khaleesi. obviously she will ultimately be the Queen

3) tyrion. #duh

4) onion knight (see responsiilty & honor thing above)

5) reeks pirate queen sister. because she is obviously smoking hot


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45. "u think th actress that plays asha greyjoy (yara) is hot? "
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47. "naw i mean the way shes written...this is abt the books nm"
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"Oh gotcha, anybody that had appeared on the show is how they are in "


  

          

My head, book or otherwise, so that actress is Asha for me

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46. "RE: your top 5 characters"
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Jon
Arya
Tyrion
Rob
Alleras

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48. "RE: your top 5 characters"
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-Arya
-John Snow
-Tyrion
-Jamie (i think he gets a bad rap. in the beginning he was a bad guy. he was cocky as fuck, but if you read the shit he said it was absolutely hilarious. straight shit talking. couple that with the whole regaining one's honor and rewriting the history...and i'm a fan)
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49. "this is hard: "
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1) Tyrion
2) Davos
3) Jaime
4) Brienne of Tarth
5) Catlyn

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51. "Arya, Jon, Varys, Tyrion, Jamie"
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RIP to Ned and Oberyn

I want to like Robb, but when you break away and form your own kingdom, you don't go on a war march attacking the enemy, you stay in your lands and fuck them up when they try to reclaim them.

  

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54. "he originally marched when he thought he could save his pops and "
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Also to rescue his sisters. His main problem was taken his host into the westerlands, he should just went to king landings and claimed loyalty to stannis until he got his sisters then declared independence

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57. "RIP Oberyn"
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i wanted to list him, but he was gone too soon.
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63. "Honestly, I liked him better in the show than the books"
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In the ASOS, he barely does anything besides fight the Mountain. He was a bunch of great moments in the show.

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66. "i agree 100%. that's also why from a reader's perspective..."
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he wasn't top 5. the show tho...they did him justice. its weird too, cause he had some of the same speeches in both. like the story of him as an infant. he tells it to Tyrion in the book and on the show, but it made him seem like more of a bad ass on the show.
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69. "^^^^"
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He was awesome on the show although the fight scene with the mountain was actually more intense in the book to me, maybe becuz it shows he repeated, "u raped her, u killed her, u killed her children" over and over again while fighting. More than in the show

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77. "i've noticed that Martin meets deadlines at the ends of his books"
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like there's so much depth he could put into certain scenes, but since they're at the end of the books, they end up feeling rushed. and i think that fight scene was at the end of one of the books.
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79. "Eh, Edmure kinda boned the whole thing for Robb"
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As said above, I understand why Robb went on the offensive. He could have done even more damage if Edmure hadn't have turned back the Mountain, giving him time to regroup with Tywin and then head to King's Landing. I will say Robb should have been more clear with Edmure about what he wanted, but Edmure's not exactly a brilliant strategic mind.

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85. "Yeah Robb shoulda told edmure exactly what he wanted. That's more"
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Robb's bad than edmure's IMO

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52. "In no order:"
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Tyrion
Brynden "The Blackfish"
Arya
Barristan Selmy
Bronn

Honorable metions:
The Queen of Thorns
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55. "I love the blackfish and selmy. Queen of thorns is better on the show "
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Her reads during tywins funeral were funny tho

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61. "She talked some great shit at Joffrey's wedding as well."
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"Ooooo, I hope they play 'Rains of Castamere' again..."

And she talks some great shit about her family, Renly, etc. And she was looking out for Sansa when few others were.

She just a bad-ass who doesn't take any shit.

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65. "Oh yeah how could I forget that great line she said about the RoC lmao"
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67. "Shit, I left Bronn off. Replace the Queen of Thorns with him"
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Bronn is another absolute bad-ass.

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68. "Blackfish and Selmy were great"
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i think the Blackfish is gonna come back and straight terrorize shit.
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70. "That's what I'm hoping for too"
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I want him to link up with the Brotherhood and rain fire 'pon the Freys and the Lannisters and The Red Wedding Pt. 2.

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71. "yup! In the books and on the show "
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83. "I fuck with strong belwas."
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Strong belwas v. Gray worm in a death match

Gray worm wins

  

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87. "Strong Belwas killing Mereen's champ in ASOS = gulliest shit ever"
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Cuts off his head, shits on his corpse, wipes his ass with the corpse's cape.

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89. "my money is on Blewias"
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for no reason except i like him more. its fucked up he's not in the show at all.
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91. "As much as I love Belwas, he'd be redundant on the show"
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96. "i can see that, but no more than Hodor"
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do we need a show full of Hodors....no. but i appreciate his violent loyalty. it so much scheming and plotting that i can appreciate the warriors. like Grey Worm. two Grey Worms might have been too much, but i think Bliewas would have had more personality on the show.
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72. "Blackfish / Queen of Thorns / Jaime / Jon / Sansa"
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80. "Top 5 alive & Top 5 dead"
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Top 5 Alive:
1. Arya
2. Khaleesi
3. Jon Snow - Cause I refuse to believe
4. Arianne Martell
5. Sansa - I have hope she's gonna figure the game out


Top 5 Dead
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2. Ned Stark
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4. Robb Stark
5. Renly - would have made a great king and him and Robb would have smashed the Lannisters

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86. "yep @ renly"
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Nice little medium point between the ridiculousness of robert and the assholia of stannis


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97. "your dead list is bomb and yes things would have"
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went so perfectly if stannis hadn't used dark magic to kill his own brother

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104. "Top Fives (Supporting and Main characters)"
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Main: Ned, Davos, Tyrion, Bran, Jon

Supporting: Varys, Missandei, Lord Lamprey, Osha, Dolorus Edd

Although Ned was way out of his league in King's Landing, he was still respected. No matter how much the Lannisters tried to ruin him. And most of his kids are/ were great (jury's still out on Sansa).


  

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105. "dolorous edd is in my top 8 or so"
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Dudes eyeore-isms kills me

  

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106. "yeah he's pretty great"
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107. "Dolorus and his lines make me laugh every time"
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He makes Jon's chapters more bearable for me sometimes

  

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60. "Let's Talk About the Grand Northern Consipiracy (long but great)"
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If you haven't read all of the books, don't read any of these posts

Part 1: http://asoiafuniversity.tumblr.com/post/52823783644/the-grand-northern-conspiracy-part-1
Part 2: http://asoiafuniversity.tumblr.com/post/52826780976/the-grand-northern-conspiracy-part-2
Part 3: http://asoiafuniversity.tumblr.com/post/52830849020/the-grand-northern-conspiracy-part-3
Part 4: http://asoiafuniversity.tumblr.com/post/52994750418/the-grand-northern-conspiracy-part-4
Part 5: http://asoiafuniversity.tumblr.com/post/53166581598/the-grand-northern-conspiracy-part-5
Part 6: http://asoiafuniversity.tumblr.com/post/53766129123/the-grand-northern-conspiracy-part-6
Part 7: http://zincpiccalilli.tumblr.com/post/55137389519

Cliff notes: The North is in on a huge conspiracy to make Jon Snow King in the North. Pretty substantial evidence exists to support it.

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73. "Yeah, I love this theory. I hope it holds up"
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Have the North (with some help from the Brotherhood and the Tullys) destroy the Freys, the Lannisters, and Dreadfort and restore the Starks to power. Though I assume it'll be Rickon (retrieved from Skagos by The Onion Knight), with Jon Snow "dead." I do expect Roose to escape, however.

Also, it'd be very GRR Martin if the "good guys" finally win, but it's all rendered moot by the Others then invading from the North by making it past/destroying the Wall at the end of "Winds of Winter."

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81. "what about Bran"
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where do you think he'll shake out in the hierarchy. you mentioned Rickon, but somehow Bran will come back just not sure if it'll be in a royal capacity.
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82. "The Grand Northern Conspiracy hinges on the fact that the bulk of the No..."
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doesn't know that Bran and Rickon are still alive. They think Theon killed him. Arya hasn't been seen since Ned died (and is assumed dead) and Sansa has been married to Tyrion so Robb was legitimizing Jon to be his heir so that the North wouldn't fall to the Lannisters.

The Manderlys are the only ones who have an idea that Rickon is still alive.

If you have some time, here is a youtube of the whole theory... LONG: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgDRuRaM5Nw

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94. "but eventually...people will know Bran is alive again"
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unless he wargs too hard and never comes back. so what happens when he comes back and Rickon is King of the North. which is an if, but Bran won't be hidden past this book.

i gotta check out that youtube link.
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98. "RE: but eventually...people will know Bran is alive again ---- HOW?"
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He is north of the wall and an ice zombie war is headed South. And people already think he's dead. How are they going to get north of an ice zombie war to a remote cave below a tree to find a boy that can't walk?

Oh, and Rickon is in Skagos... good luck getting past the cannibals to find him.

If you haven't already, you should read The World of Ice and Fire compendium. ALL the history of the Targaryean dynasty plus info about places in the world that the books haven't explored yet including Skagos, Ashai by the shadow, the history of the wars between Valyria and Old Ghis... It's a fantastic way to wait for TWOW.

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99. "they won't have to find him....he's going to leave"
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he's not stuck. he's not a prisoner. he's gonna get his lesson and go on about his business. and when he comes back it'll be interesting to see where the rest of the world is.
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101. "How's he going to leave in the middle of an ice zombie war?"
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I feel like Bran's plot is the one that is most up in the air. I don't even try guessing at that shit. I don't know where GRRM is taking his character.

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103. "he's gonna fly. "
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and i think he's gonna fly as a dragon. warg into one and fuck shit up.
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84. "I think Bran is going to be too caught up with the Three-Eyed Crow..."
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and the Children of the Forest and the Weirdwoods to ever be concerned with being the Lord of Winterfell or the North. The Three Eyed Crow foreshadows this by telling him, "You will never walk again, but you will learn how to fly." He'll be above more earthly concerns like ruling a kingdom and achieve a higher purpose, like becoming an all powerful Green-seer/Warg.

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88. "personally with Bran's warg strength....he's going to tap into a dragon"
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cause the ultimate war will be between all the lands and the white walkers. and at that time i think that one of the dragon is going to be out of control and Bran is gonna tap into it and fly.
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90. "I can see that. Especially if it's him wresting controls of the Dragons ..."
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...Euron and/or Victarion, who would want to use them to conquer Westeros in the name of Iron Islands, rather than use them to protect the realm.

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100. "I haven't decided whether Brynden Rivers/Bloodraven/TheLastGreenseer/"
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TheTree-Man(GOT's Groot)

is goo or evil in some respect. Like, does he somehow work for the Great Other? Or is he somehow linked to The Night's King.

Speaking of the Night's King... I think he and Sansa's plot line are going to be the big spoilers this season. Cause they brought the Night's King in last season which was an epic book spoiler, so I don't see how they don't address him again this season... especially with Jon going to Hardhome (another book spoiler)

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74. "Btw I cannot wait for the battle of mereen and stannis v roose"
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Selmy had them muthafuckas ready. I hope it goes over several chapters and GRRM gives greyworm a POV

I hope stannis crushes roose and the white harbor troops make a big impact

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75. "If/when it happens. I expect Roose to escape."
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He may well lose to Stannis, but he's not going to put himself in danger. He's going to have the Freys lead the charge against Stannis. And, failing that, Ramsay. I'm pretty sure he makes it to the final book, and may day there.

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78. "oh yeah i imagine he will too, I'm talking crushing his host. He won't d..."
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In that battle

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93. "ok just saw that mountain v oberyn fight again this time on the big "
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Screen. That is one of the sickest fights ever. Such good shit

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108. "Will Stannis survive this series?"
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i feel like Mel has cast her lot with the wrong king. She has some gift of prophecy or whatever, but it doesn't seem to be Stannis. And I'm wondering if he will eventually answer for his role in Renly's murder.

  

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109. "i dont think so"
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110. "so i saw the first ep of S5 last nite!!!!!!!!!! on the big screen"
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at that

it gave me everything i needed!!!! cant wait to watch it again

book readers should be very happy, they really nailed some great scenes from the books!

great first episode that just has me so geeked for this season

i wont say anymore until yall see it

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112. "Martin posts new Alayne/Sansa chapter:"
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http://www.georgerrmartin.com/excerpt-from-the-winds-of-winter/

He did something similar last year with a new Arya chapter right before Season 4 of the show started/spoiled certain details. I imagine this serves a similar purpose, dropping a week before Season 5 starts.

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113. "I made a new post about it rather than upping this one"
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=12770280&mesg_id=12770280&page=2

But my initial thoughts on first read:

-Peter scheming to short the food supply during winter to get rich.
-Sansa finally learning how this shit is played by straight up asking dude about his side hoes
-Sweetrobin is destined to die, just don't know how yet
-Who's side is Lyn Corbray really on? I wouldn't be surprised if he's been bought by Varys

I need to re-read again to form a more complete opinion.

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114. "The one to watch is Ser Shadrich, the "Mouse""
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He first turned up in AFFC, also on the road looking for Sansa. Now he's in the Vale as a hedge knight for Lord Petyr. At some point he's going to flip the script and try to take her as his hostage and bring her back to King's Landing.

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