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"Black Presidents & Black superstars = zero relevance in race relations.."
Mon Mar-16-15 01:25 PM by Phenomenality

  

          

one of the best explanations of institutionalized racism I've ever heard..

russell brand stays dropping truth bombs. really gotta watch till the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1n2kvJ5woQ

i actually teared up watching this..

very very worth the 9 mins.



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Right, they are "outliers," "the good ones," etc
Mar 16th 2015
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ugh i love Brand
Mar 16th 2015
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I can't stomach Russel Brand for too long.
Mar 16th 2015
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^ didn't watch the video.
Mar 16th 2015
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I've seen all his content/interviews.
Mar 16th 2015
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      not this one, clearly.
Mar 16th 2015
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           He's not saying nothing new.
Mar 16th 2015
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                he's not saying nothing like this either:
Mar 16th 2015
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                Sure, but my larger point still stands.
Mar 16th 2015
11
                     no...it doesn't
Mar 16th 2015
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                          Yawn.
Mar 16th 2015
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                               Dude you aren't the only one
Mar 16th 2015
35
                                    Thanks for your input loompafresh ;)
Mar 16th 2015
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                Word? Didn't watch it but knows the content based on assumptions. Hmm.
Mar 16th 2015
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                     I dedicated a lot of time to his content.
Mar 16th 2015
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                          hes not a politician
Mar 16th 2015
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                               His message is political.
Mar 16th 2015
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                                    he comments on political issues
Mar 16th 2015
33
                                         Sigh.
Mar 16th 2015
34
                                              *pats head*
Mar 16th 2015
36
                                                   I'm taken.
Mar 16th 2015
37
Wow, I find him very rationale - I'm surprised.
Mar 16th 2015
10
      There is nothing rational about creating enemies.
Mar 16th 2015
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           still didn't watch it ^^^^^
Mar 16th 2015
14
                I watched it.
Mar 16th 2015
15
                     do you realize you do the same thing? smh...
Mar 16th 2015
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                     I had a hit comedy special and now make political youtube videos?
Mar 16th 2015
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                          you don't
Mar 16th 2015
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                          I got plenty of money.
Mar 16th 2015
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                          yippity yapping about shit from the same angle
Mar 16th 2015
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                               ^ yippity yapping about yippity yapping
Mar 16th 2015
27
                                    you kinda on your CaseOne in here, fam.
Mar 16th 2015
29
                                         Yawn.
Mar 16th 2015
30
                                              Yawn = lost
Mar 16th 2015
32
                     He also helps achieve genuine change on the street.
Mar 17th 2015
41
Why zero?
Mar 16th 2015
18
right - to discount it as if it's wholly insignificant is unnecessary
Mar 16th 2015
23
There wasn't enuf room in the subject line for "politically", it cut off...
Mar 16th 2015
39
This is so a duh but we get caught up in the emotion
Mar 16th 2015
22
One of the better breakdowns of how the system operates
Mar 16th 2015
31
this bomb has been dropped thousands of times by hundreds of Black peopl...
Mar 17th 2015
40
I'm quite sure it's been said by many people of many shades..
Mar 17th 2015
42
      He was speaking about Russel Brand. Not you.
Mar 17th 2015
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1. "Right, they are "outliers," "the good ones," etc"
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But I do think black people are better off than they were 50 years ago, mostly because of their own doing.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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2. "ugh i love Brand"
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3. "I can't stomach Russel Brand for too long."
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He's too much "Us Vs. Them" oriented.

There has never been a successful global movement built on the Us. vs. Them philosophy, only bloodshed, war, and violence.

There are good people in government. Lumping everyone into the "corrupt pigs" category and rallying against them is not going to accomplish anything, and in fact, it will paint all activists with the same extremist broad strokes that noone takes seriously anymore.

The fact that Russel Brand is even creating content pertaining to Kanye and Kim Kardashian is a farce (even in his title). If you don't like it, leave it alone. Focus on real issues, do not bring attention to media trash. He is just as much a media whore as they are, except, that he likes to point his finger and make all encompassing generalizations in an attempt to feign social responsibility.

If he was sincere about creating change, he would organize/rally with good people in government, good people in business, and collaborate on strong financial, political, and philosophical solutions to the issues which continue to plague society, but, alas, it is easier to turn on a camera and lampoon about the hypocrisy of the media and point your finger at the big bad government, oh gosh, what a revolutionary, because, that hasn't already been done a million times already.

Russel Brand is the Che Guevara t-shirt of our generation.

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4. "^ didn't watch the video."
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LOL

fuck you.

  

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5. "I've seen all his content/interviews."
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I know his shtick well.

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6. "not this one, clearly."
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it's all good though.

fuck you.

  

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7. "He's not saying nothing new. "
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8. "he's not saying nothing like this either:"
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"The fact that Russel Brand is even creating content pertaining to Kanye and Kim Kardashian is a farce (even in his title). If you don't like it, leave it alone. Focus on real issues, do not bring attention to media trash."

b/c he used them as a starting point for the rest of his talk. his point had little to do w/them except to say that we shouldn't be so concerned w/them for multiple reasons. which were pretty clear and quite reasonable and even commendable. i definitely agree w/what he had to say as related to Kimye but the stuff about them was a small part of the whole.

fuck you.

  

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11. "Sure, but my larger point still stands."
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Watch his videos/interviews. It's always the same shtick. Us. Vs Them.

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21. "no...it doesn't"
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again
you have no idea what you're talking about

you do this alot
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28. "Yawn."
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You have clearly not watched his interviews/seen his content.

You bore me a lot.

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35. "Dude you aren't the only one"
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You typing about things you have no clue about is pretty old at this point

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38. "Thanks for your input loompafresh ;)"
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9. "Word? Didn't watch it but knows the content based on assumptions. Hmm."
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13. "I dedicated a lot of time to his content."
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He's a good comedian.

A terrible politician.

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20. "hes not a politician"
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>He's a good comedian.
>
>A terrible politician.


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25. "His message is political."
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33. "he comments on political issues"
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Is English your second language?
I swear this isnt the first you've stated something and its clear you have no idea what it means

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34. "Sigh."
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36. "*pats head*"
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Go play somewhere else

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37. "I'm taken. "
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10. "Wow, I find him very rationale - I'm surprised."
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12. "There is nothing rational about creating enemies."
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How do you imagine a world changing plot by Russel Brand will go when he spends so much time focusing on Us. Vs Them.

Would it possibly end with "Them" lined up against a wall or in jail?

100%.

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14. "still didn't watch it ^^^^^"
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I get your issue with brand… He can be one sided. This video is not that. You really should give it a chance.
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15. "I watched it."
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Obama has no power/puppet
System is corrupt/racist
We have a false sense of racial equality when there is none.

Okay Russel, great job preaching to the choir, now what?

Nothing, because you're making bank with YouTube views, and there you have it.

NGO's and charities make business out of poor people, and people like Russel Brand, make business out of social disparity. Ain't nothing new under the sun.


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16. "do you realize you do the same thing? smh..."
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17. "I had a hit comedy special and now make political youtube videos?"
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interesting, good to know.

when do i get my check?

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19. "you don't"
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>when do i get my check?

might be why you're mad
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26. "I got plenty of money."
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Don't worry about me.

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24. "yippity yapping about shit from the same angle"
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27. "^ yippity yapping about yippity yapping"
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29. "you kinda on your CaseOne in here, fam."
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30. "Yawn."
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32. "Yawn = lost"
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41. "He also helps achieve genuine change on the street."
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http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/12/19/russell-brand-new-era-estate-london-housing-trews_n_6355942.html

Yep, he earns his crust (and a bit more, I'm sure) by making leftist news commentaries that are a bit over sensationalist and very slightly under considered (at least when contrasted with his vocabulary) and his rhetoric about voting stuck in my craw, but he actually DOES put his boots on the ground and help real campaigners make real impacts and that's not something you can say about most 'journalists'.

He's been an effective political irritant for years, even back when he was shining light on the racist heart of the BNP, long before movies and worldwide fame: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbAKUdEWzq8

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18. "Why zero?"
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Its an example of change, is it the exact change that some white people think it is? Definitely not. Racism or some type of discrimination towards difference will ALWAYS be around. Racism will not be the first to go we havent even figured out sexuality and gender LOL I think its naive for all races to think we can tackle racism before we tackle sexual orientation and gender.


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23. "right - to discount it as if it's wholly insignificant is unnecessary"
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It does have value and utility as *a* metric re: race relations, but I agree w/ his over-arching point.


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39. "There wasn't enuf room in the subject line for "politically", it cut off..."
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There is definitely cultural significance… But Russell is correct, in the overall scheme of the way the system works…

Apparently it's pretty damn irrelevant.


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22. "This is so a duh but we get caught up in the emotion"
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31. "One of the better breakdowns of how the system operates"
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Now we just need an infographic.

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40. "this bomb has been dropped thousands of times by hundreds of Black peopl..."
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....
but I guess it takes some white, famous person saying it before it's validated....
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42. "I'm quite sure it's been said by many people of many shades.."
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this was the first time i had heard it, though.. maybe because.. he's famous.

i hope you weren't insinuating your comment towards me...

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43. "He was speaking about Russel Brand. Not you."
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