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"Creflo is raising money for a G650 jet"
Thu Mar-12-15 07:58 PM by GameTheory

          

http://creflodollarministries.org/ProjectG650/Default.aspx

Project G650 Campaign

Help Us Continue to Spread the Gospel of Grace Around the World!

Over the past twenty years, Pastor Creflo Dollar has been called to spread God’s Word to over forty countries.

The ministry’s current airplane, was built in 1984, purchased by the ministry in 1999 and has since logged four million miles. Recently on an overseas trip to a global conference, one of the engines failed. By the grace of God, the expert pilot, who’s flown with Creflo for almost 20 years, landed the plane safely without injury or harm to any passengers.


Due to this recent incident coupled with the 31 years the airplane has been in service, we believe it is time to replace this aircraft so that our Pastors and staff can continue to safely and swiftly share the Good News of the Gospel worldwide. Believe it or not, there are still millions of people on this planet who have never heard of Jesus Christ and know nothing of His greatness. Our hearts desire to see precious lives changed and snatched out of darkness and thrust into His marvelous light! We need your help to continue reaching a lost and dying world for the Lord Jesus Christ.


We are asking members, partners, and supporters of this ministry to assist in the undertaking of an initiative called Project G650. The mission of Project G650 is to acquire a Gulfstream G650 airplane so that Pastors Creflo and Taffi and World Changers Church International can continue to blanket the globe with the Gospel of grace. We are believing for 200,000 people to give contributions of 300 US dollars or more to turn this dream into a reality—and allow us to retire the aircraft that served us well for many years.


Your continued support is deeply appreciated. We love you and thank God for placing you in our lives.






********* Watching the video in the link is a MUST *********

  

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thats 600,000 round trip trips on Spirit Air tho....
Mar 12th 2015
1
Only the best for the good reverend.
Mar 12th 2015
2
your username describes his whole crew
Mar 12th 2015
3
4 million miles doing ministry. WOW! Yet Haters gone hate.
Mar 12th 2015
4
100% Agreed
Mar 12th 2015
5
*facepalm*
Mar 12th 2015
6
LOL
Mar 12th 2015
8
My casm meter is off here
Mar 12th 2015
10
      not you bro. Case keeps failing at posting
Mar 12th 2015
13
           Yeah, I've really been off this week - really bad.
Mar 12th 2015
20
haha!!! awesome
Mar 16th 2015
331
NetJets? Delta Private? ...nah, ULTRA gulfstream. Fuck outta here
Mar 12th 2015
7
That's like renting a car every week for the next 30 yrs
Mar 13th 2015
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      no it isn't... it's like LEASING a car
Mar 16th 2015
352
yup all those people asking" derp why does he need a plane"
Mar 12th 2015
9
^^^^^^
Mar 12th 2015
11
His ass needs to fly Delta like everyone else
Mar 12th 2015
12
Right. Its like rap fans bragging about who sold more
Mar 12th 2015
15
And he could be MORE charitable with 60m in his pocket
Mar 12th 2015
14
RE: And he could be MORE charitable with 60m in his pocket
Mar 12th 2015
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RE: 4 million miles doing ministry. WOW! Yet Haters gone hate.
Mar 12th 2015
16
http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=12746...
Mar 12th 2015
21
^^^ Why don't y'all write Rev. Dollar a letter about it ^^
Mar 12th 2015
27
What does writing a letter have to do with anything?
Mar 13th 2015
46
People can actually voice their constant complaining about
Mar 13th 2015
64
      I've heard his ministry. Financial prosperity from "the word" is a scam
Mar 13th 2015
168
How many letters you write Joel Osteen?
Mar 13th 2015
51
      Look at'em. Trying his best.
Mar 13th 2015
65
           Look at him. Painted into a corner.
Mar 13th 2015
197
                Bye DJ.
Mar 13th 2015
233
                     Case running scared again. Too easy.
Mar 14th 2015
259
Jesus walked a couple thousand.
Mar 13th 2015
50
      And he never left the Galilean area to do ministry
Mar 13th 2015
66
           because in 2015 it's retarded to spend $60M+ on a jet for it
Mar 13th 2015
180
           Jesus didn't have an Internet. How does that translate at all?
Mar 13th 2015
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                i mean
Mar 16th 2015
344
                     YES.
Mar 17th 2015
502
All the naysayers are concerned about the wrong thing.
Mar 12th 2015
18
Is Creflo even worth 60m?
Mar 12th 2015
22
LOL
Mar 12th 2015
23
Bingo.
Mar 12th 2015
24
What's your problem with it?
Mar 12th 2015
25
^^^^0 integrity.
Mar 13th 2015
68
So you attack me because other people are willing to support CDM
Mar 13th 2015
95
      No, I'm saying that your behavior here is indicative of your character.
Mar 13th 2015
100
           Oh, so my character is in question because I refuse to
Mar 13th 2015
142
                it really is, to be honest
Mar 13th 2015
188
                     OK.
Mar 13th 2015
235
                          we are not talking about what i dont know
Mar 14th 2015
270
RE:
Mar 13th 2015
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      BAM
Mar 16th 2015
345
ETHER.
Mar 13th 2015
53
Bullseye.
Mar 13th 2015
202
Hit the nail on the head nm
Mar 13th 2015
230
what is the wrong thing?
Mar 12th 2015
26
Acting like they care about how the church spends its money
Mar 12th 2015
29
      answer the following without deflecting
Mar 12th 2015
31
      Answered the following without deflecting
Mar 12th 2015
33
           try again. I asked "why is this okay?" you said "because I said so"
Mar 12th 2015
34
           It's Ok, because it's what they want to do.
Mar 12th 2015
35
                it's brainwashing for profit and greed
Mar 12th 2015
41
                Do you have proof of that accusation?
Mar 13th 2015
67
                It's what they wanted to do...is it what god wanted them to do?
Mar 13th 2015
69
                You should ask God about it?
Mar 13th 2015
97
                     How much energy do you think it takes to type on a message board?
Mar 13th 2015
99
                     You could have save all this crying and wrote a 10 page letter to CD.
Mar 13th 2015
106
                          not with its daily operating costs
Mar 13th 2015
183
                     this is funny
Mar 13th 2015
130
                          He ain't about to do anything but complain.
Mar 13th 2015
158
                               like the devil, *you* are here to cause confusion
Mar 13th 2015
160
                                    Right. I'm causing confusion by not joing the lynch Mob
Mar 13th 2015
164
                                         but you judge so much though. you can't judge this? lol
Mar 13th 2015
172
                                         maybe he gave CD that 3hunnid.
Mar 13th 2015
185
                                         Just because I don't have an issue with this plane, doesn't mean
Mar 13th 2015
236
                                         seriously? lynch mob? words must be losing meaning and weight
Mar 13th 2015
184
                                              That Christian Privilege Persecution Complex in action again
Mar 13th 2015
208
                he's not even going to live for another 50 years.
Mar 13th 2015
125
                     It's not like the ministry will end when he dies. Geesh.
Mar 13th 2015
140
                     and after that methinks he won't be spending his eternity in heaven
Mar 13th 2015
141
                          So now you've condemned him to hell over a jet.. WOW
Mar 13th 2015
143
                               i do hope i make it, but i'm also not getting filthy rich off the back o...
Mar 13th 2015
144
                                    So he's getting filthy rich off the back of others.
Mar 13th 2015
147
                                         i don't understand your blind support of him or his ministry.
Mar 13th 2015
148
                                              The old, answer a question with a question trick. SMH.
Mar 13th 2015
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                                                   i didn't ask a question, i simply ignored yours.
Mar 13th 2015
250
                                                        Ok. Bruh, Let's just agree to disagree.
Mar 13th 2015
251
                                                             no doubt. we just conversing here. i definitely will never agree
Mar 13th 2015
252
                                                                  Man I can dig it.
Mar 13th 2015
254
           RE: Answered the following without deflecting
Mar 13th 2015
72
                The Old Lame Insult Case Tick, just because it's a copout.
Mar 13th 2015
153
                They're giving you a taste of your own conduct
Mar 13th 2015
201
                     Do you smell that?
Mar 13th 2015
237
                          Yes. The fear on you is pungent
Mar 14th 2015
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                RE: damn
Mar 13th 2015
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      ^^ didn't tweet Obama about gay marriage
Mar 12th 2015
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      Tried building a burnt Strawman.
Mar 12th 2015
37
           ^^ hypocrisy in action again
Mar 12th 2015
38
           And like the Devil, you're here to cause confusion.
Mar 12th 2015
39
                You're definitely confused, and maybe it's due to the devil
Mar 12th 2015
40
                     DJ, Try loving yourself.
Mar 13th 2015
61
                          Wow. out of ideas already?
Mar 13th 2015
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                               Bye DJ.
Mar 13th 2015
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                                    See ya kid. Come back when you're grown up and not running scared.
Mar 14th 2015
260
           strawman? you the one claiming people are asking why he needs plane
Mar 13th 2015
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           At the end of the day, y'all really don't care.
Mar 13th 2015
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                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
Mar 13th 2015
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           You forgot to look up "ad hominem" I guess.
Mar 13th 2015
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                OK
Mar 13th 2015
59
      Whether or not we really care is irrelevant to the argument.
Mar 13th 2015
47
      OK.
Mar 13th 2015
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      I'm trynna figure out why YOU don't care?
Mar 13th 2015
117
Mother Theresa has done more for people than Creflo...
Mar 13th 2015
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      Mother Theresa was a selfish, hypocritical, misogynist fraud ass bitch.
Mar 13th 2015
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           damn right
Apr 24th 2015
513
smh
Mar 12th 2015
19
nigga name creflo dollar
Mar 12th 2015
28
^^This is always the classic validation.
Mar 12th 2015
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im having trouble understanding how anyone could ever
Mar 13th 2015
43
Girl, I know what you men.
Mar 13th 2015
63
      if he was a Wall Street crook, he'd at least have to have a biz plan and...
Mar 13th 2015
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           Best believe those funds are audited and accounted for
Mar 13th 2015
80
                lol
Mar 13th 2015
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                lol thats not remotely the point
Mar 13th 2015
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                But here is the deal that you are missing
Mar 13th 2015
89
                     will THIS plane help him spread the gospel better than a cheaper one?
Mar 13th 2015
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                          This plane may last them 40 to 50 year and pay for itself
Mar 13th 2015
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                               you're not making ANY sense.
Mar 13th 2015
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                                    Because I deal with Lifecycle and value of equipment
Mar 13th 2015
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                                         lol, now this is just lies
Mar 13th 2015
187
                                         So, it's a lie because you don't know about it. OK.
Mar 13th 2015
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                                              no, im saying that you dont know what you are talking about
Mar 14th 2015
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                                         if you knew what you were talking about, you would have FACTS
Mar 13th 2015
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                no they arent. this is how he responded to a senator's request
Mar 13th 2015
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                     This matter was a defense against a Capital Hill Witch Hunt
Mar 13th 2015
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                          ahh. so thats what we call it these days
Mar 13th 2015
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                               Well that's your opinion.
Mar 13th 2015
165
                                    thats called a cop out
Mar 13th 2015
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                                         lol
Mar 13th 2015
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                                         We have a difference of opinion.
Mar 13th 2015
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                                              another copout. this is not a difference of opinions. you are wrong
Mar 14th 2015
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                                                   I still love you.
Mar 17th 2015
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                                                        that actually made my skin crawl
Mar 17th 2015
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It's also obviously facetious.
Mar 13th 2015
49
      Water is wet too. Did you know that?
Mar 13th 2015
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CREFLO DOLLAR sounds like an MLM/IPO scam
Mar 13th 2015
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be all, end all
Mar 13th 2015
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lol this dude is bizarro jesus
Mar 12th 2015
32
Thinking abt the type of people who will donate. That bothers me the mos...
Mar 13th 2015
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      yeah, i started to post something snarky
Mar 13th 2015
52
even tim cook is like $60mil??? FOH
Mar 13th 2015
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.
Mar 13th 2015
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BTW $60 mil could start hundreds of churches around the world
Mar 13th 2015
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Yeah man fuck getting these people clean water or infrastructure
Mar 13th 2015
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      RE: Yeah man fuck getting these people clean water or infrastructure
Mar 13th 2015
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      wooooo!
Mar 13th 2015
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      Hear you go. You can join the effort too.
Mar 13th 2015
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      That's awesome. Doesn't convince me he needs the plane.
Mar 13th 2015
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           So, does he need to convince you that CDM needs the plane?
Mar 13th 2015
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                so please tell us this:
Mar 13th 2015
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                No player, the onus is on you.
Mar 13th 2015
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                     you are shaming jesus, peter and paul
Mar 14th 2015
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                No, my problem is what I believe is your interpretation of good.
Mar 14th 2015
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      RE: Yeah man fuck getting these people clean water or infrastructure
Mar 16th 2015
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RE: Creflo is raising money for a G650 jet
Mar 13th 2015
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200k People Commited to Sow $300 or More can help achieve our goal...
Mar 13th 2015
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RE: 200k People Commited to Sow $300 or More can help achieve our goal.....
Mar 16th 2015
389
He could adopt a lot of white babies with 60 million, LMAO!!
Mar 13th 2015
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I'll donate my skype account
Mar 13th 2015
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RE: Creflo is raising money for a G650 jet
Mar 13th 2015
76
thats a whole lotta love offerings
Mar 13th 2015
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If Jesus wrecked some money changers the fuck do you think
Mar 13th 2015
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THIS is the problem with evangelism
Mar 13th 2015
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This is a symptom of churches that need their status revoked
Mar 13th 2015
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      i agree with this
Mar 13th 2015
192
if they like it, i love it
Mar 13th 2015
85
IMO, that's all there is to it.
Mar 13th 2015
90
I dont care for the ostenatiousness
Mar 13th 2015
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God economy always booming
Mar 13th 2015
91
Do y'all have an issue with a pastor that has a Helicopter too?
Mar 13th 2015
94
Hospitals in cities use helicopters to transplant organs.
Mar 13th 2015
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Hospitals in cities use planes to transplant organs too.
Mar 13th 2015
107
Why would I ever be mad about a hospital saving people?
Mar 13th 2015
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Wonder! Evangeline Maid! Bunny!
Mar 13th 2015
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He's a great pastor and a really good man.
Mar 13th 2015
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      does he save actual lives like a medical doctor
Mar 13th 2015
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      furthermore
Mar 13th 2015
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      I never said he was a bad man or a bad pastor.
Mar 14th 2015
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do you understand that "he needs a plane"
Mar 13th 2015
119
      Why are you so upset about it?
Mar 13th 2015
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           why is this the only thing that you can ever say?
Mar 13th 2015
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           Right, that's the ONLY thing that I've said
Mar 13th 2015
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           because he's bilking poor people out their money
Mar 13th 2015
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                So, you know that poor people are the ones that will give the $300
Mar 13th 2015
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                     post #262
Mar 14th 2015
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to visit his multiple metro atlanta churches in one day. the chopper is
Mar 13th 2015
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      That's the truth.
Mar 13th 2015
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           *youve* got to be trolling
Mar 13th 2015
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quick! everybody look that way!
Mar 13th 2015
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Serious question Case...
Mar 13th 2015
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      RE: Serious question Case...
Mar 13th 2015
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           we'd rather ask jesus why he preferred to ride a donkey
Mar 13th 2015
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           "down"
Mar 16th 2015
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                referring to when they were the only game in xtianity
Mar 17th 2015
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           Aight, I think that's about it.
Mar 14th 2015
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He's going to get that money too.
Mar 13th 2015
102
Forget the jet, the real question is this:
Mar 13th 2015
104
He's flying into the Amazon?
Mar 13th 2015
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There are millions of people in the heart of the Amazon?
Mar 13th 2015
112
      *super deep shrug*
Mar 13th 2015
120
China, India, etc.
Mar 13th 2015
110
If he's trying to convert China he'd be better off buying a Fighter Jet.
Mar 13th 2015
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...with a few nukes.
Mar 13th 2015
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lmfao
Mar 13th 2015
166
wrong, wrong, WRONG
Mar 13th 2015
116
and also, lol@ china
Mar 13th 2015
134
You have a very limited world view playa
Mar 13th 2015
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      Actually your world view is limited as fucc
Mar 13th 2015
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           Do you know my world view?
Mar 13th 2015
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                for one thing, youknow nothing about india and china
Mar 14th 2015
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                uh, do you know j's world view?
Mar 14th 2015
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                     Hypocrisy makes it easy.
Mar 15th 2015
325
they're not parking a $60 million luxury business jet
Mar 13th 2015
136
Right? And the people who never heard of Jesus can't afford to hear Cref...
Mar 13th 2015
162
Christianity has been in India since the time of Christ, you stupid simp...
Mar 13th 2015
215
i wonder if he's recruiting interpreters and how much he's paying them
Mar 13th 2015
118
haha.. you said "pay"
Mar 13th 2015
122
and these people can only be reached in a luxury business jet
Mar 13th 2015
121
^Jesus wants this for him...
Mar 13th 2015
126
I'd kick in a few bucks for him to parachute into Pulau Papua
Mar 13th 2015
128
I actually believe there are millions who haven't heard of Jesus
Mar 13th 2015
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I can believe that.
Mar 13th 2015
135
There are still many who have not
Mar 13th 2015
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this is sad, but if he can be this blatant i don't blame him for getting...
Mar 13th 2015
127
Cre(CREATE)(A)Flo(FLOW)Of(DOLLARS)
Mar 13th 2015
129
Pastor (Pass Da) Dollar
Mar 13th 2015
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      Creflo "Y'all let go of them" Dollar(s)
Mar 13th 2015
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All I can do is SMH at the suckers that fall for this garbage at this po...
Mar 13th 2015
137
Lmao. This reads like something from the Onion.
Mar 13th 2015
138
Creflo looks like a man that I wouldn't let in my house
Mar 13th 2015
139
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mar 13th 2015
209
lol
Mar 13th 2015
216
This is like a guy on gofundme trying to replace a Honda w/ a Rolls
Mar 13th 2015
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its essentially a pyramid scheme
Mar 13th 2015
229
      Hell it's even worse b/c you don't get paid for recruiting new suckers
Mar 17th 2015
453
Remember when that lady got killed by a killer whale
Mar 13th 2015
155
lmao exactly
Mar 13th 2015
169
shit is like a Boondocks episode swear
Mar 13th 2015
186
https://youtu.be/qCCUUi5rx-0
Mar 13th 2015
157
There HAVE to be more cost effective ways of spreading the word
Mar 13th 2015
170
i hope this shit shuts his whole shit down.
Mar 13th 2015
173
Does he speak at engagements for free?
Mar 13th 2015
177
a house nigga cosignin another one, shocker.
Mar 13th 2015
181
Question...
Mar 13th 2015
182
would actually be inhumane to do so, even if it was for free
Mar 13th 2015
196
Totally agree
Mar 13th 2015
204
      i really wish my ancestors had done this
Mar 13th 2015
207
      shamone.
Mar 13th 2015
218
      same.
Mar 13th 2015
249
      it always goes back to the man on the mountain
Mar 13th 2015
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      RE: Totally agree
Mar 13th 2015
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           Yep... it's awful
Mar 14th 2015
256
what he really needs to do is ask for money for a time machine
Mar 13th 2015
206
      ha!
Mar 13th 2015
239
Matthew 7/Timothy 6 addresses this man and every other like him
Mar 13th 2015
193
No pastor needs a jet for ministry.... AT ALL.
Mar 13th 2015
195
im impressed by his hustle
Mar 13th 2015
198
the old, 'robbing peter to pay paul'
Mar 13th 2015
200
Case_One in here caping like he got one.
Mar 13th 2015
203
he's trying to ride shotgun
Mar 13th 2015
219
Case_One has 2 G650's. Now what? You mad too.
Mar 13th 2015
245
I work with various charitable orgs for work
Mar 13th 2015
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RE: I work with various charitable orgs for work
Apr 23rd 2015
509
Building Fund 2.0 n/m
Mar 13th 2015
220
the annual operating cost of a G650 is $1 million to $3 million/year
Mar 13th 2015
221
Creflos Net Worth ain't even worth the cost of the jet tho
Mar 13th 2015
223
      reportedly $27 million, but that's obviously nothing
Mar 14th 2015
267
'..store up your treasures in heaven...'
Mar 13th 2015
224
Looks like the donation page is down
Mar 13th 2015
225
One trip on his old plane has fuel costs of $9500.
Mar 13th 2015
227
I'm cool with that too.
Mar 13th 2015
246
      doing the devils work ^^
Mar 14th 2015
275
Christ was a humble man of simple means.
Mar 13th 2015
228
folks will validate anything using the Bible
Mar 13th 2015
247
      True. It has lost its essence completely.
Mar 13th 2015
248
      Because many of them know deep down its all a farce
Mar 14th 2015
266
           I don't agree with that.
Mar 17th 2015
491
Waybackmachine.com keeping it real doe
Mar 13th 2015
253
The fact that he took the page down says it all... SMH
Mar 13th 2015
255
My childhood pastor got the church to buy him a jet
Mar 14th 2015
257
my childhood pastor went to federal prison for business fraud
Mar 14th 2015
264
Damn... whole family went down eh?
Mar 14th 2015
265
      yep, pastor, son, and a handful of others
Mar 14th 2015
268
I was there the day James Meeks got a jet...
Mar 14th 2015
269
Pastor Keith Butler of Detroit's Word of Faith once had a sermon...
Mar 14th 2015
277
If a jet was the last straw, I cant even imagine what else you witnessed...
Mar 14th 2015
276
my wife was done when the pastor bought his wife a mink coat...
Mar 14th 2015
279
my wife went to church with a friend back when she was in college in Ric...
Mar 14th 2015
280
There were some eyebrow raising things that never sat right with me
Mar 14th 2015
286
      3 churches? man, you make it sound like tinder dating....
Mar 15th 2015
301
      Once the elders die, it's a wrap...
Mar 15th 2015
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           RE: Once the elders die, it's a wrap...
Mar 16th 2015
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           when my mom died people asked about making IN KIND gifts
Mar 17th 2015
439
                Woah. That is seriously predatory behaviour.
Mar 17th 2015
470
      omg thank you!
Mar 16th 2015
347
      how did i not know this?
Mar 16th 2015
353
      Seen it with my own eyes
Mar 16th 2015
402
           you're killing it in here
Mar 17th 2015
423
      This is what happened with Word of Faith in Detroit IIRC.
Mar 16th 2015
361
      wow this is interesting
Mar 17th 2015
477
you should write a letter about it
Mar 14th 2015
278
There were several stories written about it in the Washington post
Mar 14th 2015
288
      please pardon my facetiousness
Mar 14th 2015
292
           sorry my scasm meter was off... nm
Mar 14th 2015
296
ha, this is my anecdote too
Mar 17th 2015
474
      Wait... Ginuwine as in "my pony"; Ginuwine lol
Mar 17th 2015
482
           yup lol. i thought he was from atlanta or something. seemed random
Mar 17th 2015
489
My honest opinion is to let all his fools give them their
Mar 14th 2015
258
the case of creflo dollar v. jesus
Mar 14th 2015
262
^^^ all of this.
Mar 16th 2015
418
Yep.
Mar 16th 2015
419
VIEW THE VIDEO HERE:
Mar 14th 2015
283
My Eddie Long Story (no not THAT kind of story)
Mar 14th 2015
284
kinda sounds like a comic book villain origin story
Mar 14th 2015
287
lmao
Mar 14th 2015
295
What did your father have to say about it?
Mar 14th 2015
290
We both participated and helped fill our bag
Mar 14th 2015
291
this story is crazy.
Mar 14th 2015
293
it was one of the craziest things i've ever seen
Mar 14th 2015
294
      lolol
Mar 15th 2015
320
that's hilarious and disgusting
Mar 14th 2015
299
This part:
Mar 15th 2015
308
"my father is the pastor at one of the biggest black churches in one of ...
Mar 16th 2015
341
'who tells someone who got a message from God 'Hold on, let me finish'
Mar 16th 2015
350
      GOD JUST SPOKE DIRECTLY TO MY WIFE!
Mar 16th 2015
354
https://youtu.be/F-hhaNxnSmA?t=58s
Mar 14th 2015
289
I said dont ask, dont asssssk!!!
Mar 15th 2015
300
WWJF?
Mar 14th 2015
297
Spirit Airlines...
Mar 15th 2015
303
My sister went to a church where they lock the doors
Mar 15th 2015
302
Ahahaha, I imagine it took dude like 20 minutes to
Mar 15th 2015
304
he was holding it just talking and talking... I was like Dave Chappelle ...
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      He just kept brining up random shit and shaking your hand
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yeah, this is actually kidnapping
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I would have employed Brother Rock to help me escape...
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Ya'll surprised? This the same motherfucker that said
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double post.
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That shit is the most shocking shit I've ever heard a pastor say
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I left out the most disturbing part...
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      RE: I left out the most disturbing part...
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           I cut and pasted the swipe, too late to edit.
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                There's often a strong undercurrent of violence just beneath the surface
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Case..what say you?
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that uncle tom ass nigga wont address shit like that, damn
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Sounds like something every other psychopathic megalomaniac
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shit makes me want to believe in hell
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It's making me consider being an agnostic :(
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      stuff like this makes me (somewhere between agnostic-atheist)
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what in the entire fuck
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holy shit
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i think dude is a scumbag regardless
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      he was called out on it and didn't deny it.
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           Yep, shole didn't
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Looks like 'Flo got a triple plat post to go with his new plane
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pilot rips clams by creflo that it needs plane to carry 100,000lbs of fo...
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He needs it to carry the cop outs he's got to justify himself
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lol. help me buy a fleet of bentleys to deliver food on thanksgiving.
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      help me buy a lamborghini so i can drive to skid row and preach the gosp...
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Pastor Oral Roberts did something similar
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That's who Creflo learned it from
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Ah
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also good to know
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      Shit runs deep and it's scary
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           That's the shame of it
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AHAHHAHA, but not really
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Taking me back to the days of "Bloom County" with Oral Bill Cat
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OMG ROFL
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I remember that shit.
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Three-thirty-Three!
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As a Christian... needing a 60 million jet is suspect
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*dead*
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I just caught the holy ghost to that *GIF*
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lmao!
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I used to work for Gulfstream... no one NEEDS a Gulfstream FOH!!!
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Yo!
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Blast from the past
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Serious question, why do pastors feel like they need to travel the world...
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you can only scam so many people in a certain radius
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      Basically.
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           ^^
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What's the greedy Creflo Dollar doing to help and empower his community
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aka it's okay to do wrong as long as you're active in the community
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I'm actually going to engage you on this one.
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      Of course no response will follow. You have to cop out in advance
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           lol at "i'm going to engage you" and "no response will follow."
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                Yup, I excersised my inner Bobby Brown
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                He can't engage, his failure rate on that front is too high and he knows...
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The Mexican Cartels also build infrastructure, schools, and hospitals
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The US Govenment also build infrastructure, schools, and hospitals
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^^ note the lack of attribution for the accusation
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my point refers to the scripture I posted (twice)
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      Doc, I'm not ignoring the scriptures. WCCI and CDM is not a MAN
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           they're organizations built by a man...
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                No, they're organizations built by people. The Vision was given
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He needs to manufacture something off topic to distract from his cop out...
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OH! NOW i see why a 60 million dollar jet is a NEED
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lol exactly
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Again, my response was not about the Plane.
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glad folks are seeing this for the bullshit it is
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      When you walk in my shoes then you can tell me what I
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           your antics in here
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                I gave my opinion, And? You gave yours. Cool.
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                     the end result is poor people giving him money so he can live in luxury
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                     Do you know if poor people are giving him money to live in luxury?
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                     your opinion is really twisted
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                          Have a great day
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Part of Body Shapers is pulling airplanes with your teeth
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Nino Brown gave out turkeys for Thanksgiving
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CASHFLOW DOLLAR...
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Oh, so now I'm lower in your eyes because I don't have a
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      cmon doggg...you know that money can be better spent
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           Hey, I've never debated how 60 Mil could be spent.
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                Here's the thing tho, Case...
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                RE: Here's the thing tho, Case...
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                     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLsDNxZcOa8
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                     can you answer Poppa George's simple question?
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                          The answer is not going to be worked out in this post
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                               you can tell if someone loves money by their behavior
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                                    There is always context for support and opposition on any matter.
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                                         i haven't been mean, hateful or snarky towards you
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                                         RE: i haven't been mean, hateful or snarky towards you
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                                         very much in agreement with you.
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                                         i dont even think he sees it - definitely lack of self-awareness
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                                              RE: i dont even think he sees it - there's definitely a lack of self-awa...
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                                              RE: i dont even think he sees it - definitely lack of self-awareness
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                                         NikaMandela I wasn't referring to you, but in general.
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                                         well you are the one coming across as nasty
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                RE: Hey, I've never debated how 60 Mil could be spent.
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                I still love you Maria.
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                     How dare you? Go to hell
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                if cashflow asked his folks to donate for a campus site
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                     You know, the best way to get an answer is to ask him.
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Case, be a man and discuss #307
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You Ain't Dame Dash.
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haha... but I said that caused you said it
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Oops! I couldn't resist..LOL I did didn't I .. Dang!
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      RE: Woof! I couldn't resist the repsonse...LOL
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           Chuckle
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Questioning your manhood? Real men don't need "Jesus". Quote it
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I still love you.
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LOL just ignore the #307 part of that
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I still love you.
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^COP OUT CHRISTIAN
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      I still love you.
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Good luck getting him to do that.
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A house nigga is not a man, but a traitor, plain & simple
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      I still love you.
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      I still love you.
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http://s17.postimg.org/cg1lypf9r/image.jpg
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archive.
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have y'all noticed a certain Dude that's Just infatuated with me?
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why is this the defense mechanism du jour of OKP?
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^ sees it
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Ok.
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and name a name if you are that pressed
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Pressed? You responded with Chatty Cathy.
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yes, let's change the subject to that
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      Naw, the OP is good. I
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Thanks to the people who shared their stories
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yes thank you!
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Creflo Dollar Shuts Down Campaign for $65 Million Jet (swipe)
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I love that the only foreign place mentioned in that is London
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great. glad to see his focus NOW is spreading the gospel
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Good for him and CDM. I'm sure some folks wont be satisfied.
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still no comment on 307?
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      Was I suppose to comment on #307?
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           recheck the post...but thanks for policing my behavior dickhead lol
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                Takes one to know one or we must be related.
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                     so basically that's 2 more Ls
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                          So, my character is sullied because I didn't respond to a response
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                               u aren't this stupid
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                               Oh, now I'm kinda Stupid... Wow.
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                                    yea, u stupid as fuck
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                                         I still love you.
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                                              *pats u on the head*
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                               You champion CDJ character,but ignore proof of his character in 307
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                                    I haven't looked at the link in #307, so how is my character in question...
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                                    I can just sniff out cowards well, thats all.
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                                    Have a great day and know that love is abound.
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                                         tell that to your failure of a father
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                                              Hugs!
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                                    So "willful ignorance" is your stance?
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                                    In front of Jesus even lol
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                                    Have an amazing day.
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                                         Translation: "Yes; I would rather stay ignorant than look stupid"
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                                    You deserve every syllable of Zaire's words
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                                    So either you're scared, or lying.
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                                    god damn. this is pure fire.
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                                    #BARZ
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this also proves that the plane was never a necessity
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      Yep.
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      Case does the same. Posts his 'teachings' then cowers when it gets real
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      Yeah, there's a context to the reaction he gets here
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      That's where as was at from the very beginning. Just get a basic plane
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creflo theme song:
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Elevation Church in Charlotte, the pastor is signing bibles!!!
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Sooooo... Case donated $300, right?
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Heck Naw, I need my $300 to fix my car.
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5 hunnid. (200 more than creflo needs)
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lol
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fuckin coward cant even address why CD fell back
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Creflo says the devil stopped his plans for a jet (link)
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lol
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Nah, God did that
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murderbear
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1. "thats 600,000 round trip trips on Spirit Air tho...."
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as long as he aint got a suitcase

  

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2. "Only the best for the good reverend."
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Literally the best, must luxurious private jet out there. $60 million dollars.

They got along for years with a used plane. They can't carry on with something comparable?
I'm sure they could get an newer version of what they currently have for probably around $15 million.

Think of all the good they could potentially do with the difference

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3. "your username describes his whole crew"
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4. "4 million miles doing ministry. WOW! Yet Haters gone hate."
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Why does he need a plane? So what! The man has done more to change lives for the better more than anyone that will have something negative to say.

It's not like Rev. Dr. Dollar is balling out in vegas. The Rev. is doing real world wide ministry, it's not like he's not using the resources irresponsibly.

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5. "100% Agreed"
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>it's not like he's not
>using the resources irresponsibly.

  

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6. "*facepalm*"
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8. "LOL"
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Cold Truth
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10. "My casm meter is off here"
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The double negative reads to me like "he's using resources irresponsibly".

So I agree

  

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13. "not you bro. Case keeps failing at posting"
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like more than in general, his fail streak is impeccable lately

im a grammar snob so i totally got you

  

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20. "Yeah, I've really been off this week - really bad. "
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331. "haha!!! awesome"
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GameTheory
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7. "NetJets? Delta Private? ...nah, ULTRA gulfstream. Fuck outta here"
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Dude is a snake...but oh well, if you donate, you're just as dumb.

Dude won't even settle for a 550.

  

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93. "That's like renting a car every week for the next 30 yrs"
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instead of buying one. But you can go on and cook.


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352. "no it isn't... it's like LEASING a car"
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9. "yup all those people asking" derp why does he need a plane""
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its like theres so many people saying that over and over i can barely concentrate on the fact that he NEEDS a 60 million dollar plane

  

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11. "^^^^^^"
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12. "His ass needs to fly Delta like everyone else"
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But hey if those ignorant ass negros wanna buy this hustler a Gulfstream jet whatever. I guess it will give them something to brag about, HAHAH.. "Well... my preacher has a Gulfstream G650!!" SMH

Folks at these churches are nothing but sheep being led to a mental slaughter every Sunday.

Free your mind and your ass will follow !! The kingdom of heaven is within!!

  

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GameTheory
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15. "Right. Its like rap fans bragging about who sold more"
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Dude ain't even trying to use fractional jet ownership or buy a smaller jet.

Its just absurd.

  

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GameTheory
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14. "And he could be MORE charitable with 60m in his pocket"
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His ass can fly coach

  

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17. "RE: And he could be MORE charitable with 60m in his pocket"
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This hustling ass nyuuuukah aint doing charity, he probably does just enough of some bullshit to look good on paper, but we all know thats not what this hustler is about.. Hell his last name being dollar should be the first gotdamn clue yet black folks still falling for the okey doke.

  

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16. "RE: 4 million miles doing ministry. WOW! Yet Haters gone hate."
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Thu Mar-12-15 09:52 PM by neuro_OSX

  

          

The fact that you are defending this devil says it all... WTF is wrong with some of you??!?!?!? The arrogance alone of thinking the rest of the world needs to hear this mans drivel is disgusting and vile beyond words.


brainwashed, hoodwinked, bamboozled and indoctrinated, wake up fools!


On a side note, hourly operating costs of a G650 is $10,000 and hour, shiiiiiiate, several million dollars a year. And of course the 650 is top of the line and currently the fastest private jet.. But apparently jeeeesus wants him to have it. There is a 3 year wait for this aircraft.. SMH

Here ya go brotha Case_One, this song is for you, HAHA

Promentalshitbackwashpsychosis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wL1NyqLs5E

  

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21. "http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=12746..."
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=12746278&mesg_id=12746278&page=4#12746387

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27. "^^^ Why don't y'all write Rev. Dollar a letter about it ^^"
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Oh, no you won't, because none of you really care about the matter and many of you are pure cowards and wont do anything except complain behind your keyboards about his congregation and his character.

Oh, but Case is brainwashed and an ass. Riiiiiight.



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46. "What does writing a letter have to do with anything?"
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Fri Mar-13-15 12:34 AM by Triptych

  

          

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http://twitter.com/irefox
http://stackoverflow.com/users/43089/triptych
http://github.com/djtriptych

  

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64. "People can actually voice their constant complaining about"
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everything that man does.

Rev. Dr. Dollar is an excellent preacher, and teacher. I can't say anything about him as a pastor because I don't attend his church. But I know a lot of people that do and they have no complaints about that brother.




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168. "I've heard his ministry. Financial prosperity from "the word" is a scam"
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He's not helping anyone by keeping them clinging to the hope that a cash windfall is just around the corner if only you pray hard enough and give your last dollar to the church.


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Like there is stupid, and then there is you, and then there is dead. - VAsBestBBW

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51. "How many letters you write Joel Osteen?"
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You write a lot of letters to Klansmen?

Republicans?

Fox News?

How many police departments that have whitewashed investigations into shootings of Blacks have you written to?

Just IMO though.

  

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65. "Look at'em. Trying his best. "
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Get your weight up DJ.

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197. "Look at him. Painted into a corner."
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Hypocrisy revealed and undeniable.

Just IMO though.

  

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233. "Bye DJ. "
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259. "Case running scared again. Too easy."
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50. "Jesus walked a couple thousand."
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66. "And he never left the Galilean area to do ministry"
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But he did command his followers to “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation" Mark 16:15. Rev. Dr. Dollar is trying to live out that command.

Why does it bother people so much, especially when they don't even care to live the command out in their own lives?

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180. "because in 2015 it's retarded to spend $60M+ on a jet for it"
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Look, let's say it's really in the ministry's best interest to have a private jet. Dude got around for yeeeeaaars on a used joint, why not save money and get another one that's been completely inspected and certified? There's some good used long range and ultra long range jets available for a fraction of the money he's talking about.

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226. "Jesus didn't have an Internet. How does that translate at all?"
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344. "i mean"
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the hell?
use Skype
get you a chatroom mofo

aint no mofo way

  

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502. "YES."
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Not to mention train a bunch of people up who can be on site and grow the ministry there full time if that's so important. $60 Million would buy a lot of that, it's just that those people would sit in a spiritual asset sheet, not a material one.

Shows where the priorities lie.

Just IMO though.

  

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18. "All the naysayers are concerned about the wrong thing."
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nm



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22. "Is Creflo even worth 60m? "
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I mean cmon....how is he affording this?

  

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23. "LOL"
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you don't even have the integrity to say this is unnecessary

only because you secretly to desire the affluent lives these type of pastors live under the guise of worldwide gospel and ministry

  

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24. "Bingo."
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>you don't even have the integrity to say this is unnecessary
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>only because you secretly to desire the affluent lives these
>type of pastors live under the guise of worldwide gospel and
>ministry
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and the whole oh he's done so much for so many people is just the kind of talk rich white men rock when they're in trouble for messing with others' money. As if ill gotten gains are offset because you give a portion of it away and/or are active in the community (as if that's not part of the hustle anyway).

Just IMO though.

  

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25. "What's your problem with it? "
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Why are you invested in the matter?

How much ministry service have you done across the world?

How is this matter impacting you?

And why are you so concerned with matters that you have to speculate about me?

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68. "^^^^0 integrity."
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You can't think of any way that 60mil could be better spent, even better spent on ministry, than buying this guy a fucking plane?


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And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
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95. "So you attack me because other people are willing to support CDM"
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and I'm all for them buying a resource that will be used for the next 40 to 50 years. I got you playa.






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100. "No, I'm saying that your behavior here is indicative of your character. "
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142. "Oh, so my character is in question because I refuse to "
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dogpile another man about his character over a jet when I don't know the detail, yet choose to give the benefit of the doubt. Gotcha!


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188. "it really is, to be honest"
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>dogpile another man about his character over a jet when I
>don't know the detail, yet choose to give the benefit of the
>doubt. Gotcha!

its like you would let people be led astray just because someone said, jesus on my side!

thats a sorry ass excuse for someone 'leading the flock'
what details do you really need to know
maybe thats a question we need to be asking
as of now, you really havent mentioned them

what makes you think this move is justified?
what mountain is creflo trying to move
and dont say china

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235. "OK. "
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I'm not going to argue about what you don't know regarding me.

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270. "we are not talking about what i dont know"
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>I'm not going to argue about what you don't know regarding
>me.

we are talking about how you are portraying yourself on here
and yes, it raises questions about your moral values

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174. "RE: "
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>Why are you invested in the matter?
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because it's another "social center" where poor, working class, and middle class American people are getting exploited under the guise of salvation.

>How much ministry service have you done across the world?
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I'm an atheist fam, most of the activist work i've done is around anti-capitalist practices, about the prison industrial complex, and representation within the academy as it pertains to people of color

>How is this matter impacting you?
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because it's part of our collective dialogue as Americans, and as Blacks specifically. This type of ideology drives a force I'm 100% against. and please understand I'm not against Christians and their beliefs, I'm against snakes who exploit that belief

>And why are you so concerned with matters that you have to
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it's not speculation if you constantly endorse or support certain ideas. I'm asking that you not cower and deflect, and just admit that you support particular ideas

  

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345. "BAM"
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>>Why are you invested in the matter?
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>because it's another "social center" where poor, working
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>under the guise of salvation.





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53. "ETHER."
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>you don't even have the integrity to say this is unnecessary
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>only because you secretly to desire the affluent lives these
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>ministry
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202. "Bullseye."
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230. "Hit the nail on the head nm"
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26. "what is the wrong thing?"
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29. "Acting like they care about how the church spends its money "
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to do World Wide Ministry. These people really don't care, people are here just to talk trash behind the mans back. But I guarantee that not one of them would ever say anything to his face about anything of they saw him in person or even write him a letter regarding the matter.

People always have something to say about the man and they don't even know anything about the ministry that he does or the lives that he's help to change for the better.


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31. "answer the following without deflecting"
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what does ministry have to do with raising 60 million dollars for aircraft?

  

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33. "Answered the following without deflecting"
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>what does ministry have to do with raising 60 million dollars
>for aircraft?

Everything they need it to be or need to do with it. Answered!


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34. "try again. I asked "why is this okay?" you said "because I said so""
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why does a preacher need 60 million dollars for traveling?

  

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35. "It's Ok, because it's what they want to do. "
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>why does a preacher need 60 million dollars for traveling?


They need it because they're apparently planing to use that plane for the next 50 years.



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41. "it's brainwashing for profit and greed "
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Evander Holyfield lost his home thanks to Creflo Dollar but let you tell it that's okay because "that's what the church wanted"

it's pretty sickening, but I dont know why I expected different from you

  

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67. "Do you have proof of that accusation?"
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>Evander Holyfield lost his home thanks to Creflo Dollar but
>let you tell it that's okay because "that's what the church
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Evander Holyfield lost his money because he mismanaged his money.

>it's pretty sickening, but I dont know why I expected
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Well is your so sick, what are you going to do about it?



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69. "It's what they wanted to do...is it what god wanted them to do?"
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Seriously, does every muthafucka who claims to be for Jesus get a pass in your book? You don't have to discern who are truly faithful and who is a charlatan? Doesn't the Bible even warn you about false prophets?

Seriously man, is every single thing these guys do acceptable just because they claim to be doing it for Christ?


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97. "You should ask God about it?"
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>Seriously, does every muthafucka who claims to be for Jesus
>get a pass in your book? You don't have to discern who are
>truly faithful and who is a charlatan? Doesn't the Bible even
>warn you about false prophets?
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>Seriously man, is every single thing these guys do acceptable
>just because they claim to be doing it for Christ?
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You mad about noting. I don't give passes, but you are complaining about something that you really don't have a steak in or any detailed info about. And what's worst is that all of this energy that you have spent attacking me could have been used to write Creflo Dollar or go out and do some meaningful ministry in your city.


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99. "How much energy do you think it takes to type on a message board? "
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>You mad about noting. I don't give passes

You whip out those rose colored glasses whenever people discuss structural problems with religion. I understand why you take the stances you do on theology. This though? You're handing out passes.


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106. "You could have save all this crying and wrote a 10 page letter to CD."
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>>You mad about noting. I don't give passes
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>You whip out those rose colored glasses whenever people
>discuss structural problems with religion. I understand why
>you take the stances you do on theology. This though? You're
>handing out passes.


I'm not giving CD a pass. I'm just looking at the fact that the plane can be multi-purposed and it might even pay for itself in the long-run.


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183. "not with its daily operating costs"
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>I'm not giving CD a pass. I'm just looking at the fact that
>the plane can be multi-purposed and it might even pay for
>itself in the long-run.

it will pay for itself by more tithing?

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130. "this is funny"
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>>but you are
>complaining about something that you really don't have a steak
>in or any detailed info about.

im picturing lardlad giving out steaks

medium or rare?

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158. "He ain't about to do anything but complain. "
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160. "like the devil, *you* are here to cause confusion"
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whats that about?

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164. "Right. I'm causing confusion by not joing the lynch Mob"
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>whats that about?

Hey, I refuse to lynch as man over his name and a plane, just because it's popular.



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172. "but you judge so much though. you can't judge this? lol"
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>>whats that about?
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>Hey, I refuse to lynch as man over his name and a plane, just
>because it's popular.
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185. "maybe he gave CD that 3hunnid. "
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only reason i can see for this level of advocacy for a man who is taking advantage of those who do not know better.

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i myself would never want to be god,or even like god.Because god got all these human beings on this planet and i most certainly would not want to be responsible for them, or even have the disgrace that i made them.

  

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236. "Just because I don't have an issue with this plane, doesn't mean "
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184. "seriously? lynch mob? words must be losing meaning and weight"
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>Hey, I refuse to lynch as man over his name and a plane, just
>because it's popular.

people being reasonable is nowadays considered lynching?
must be the debil talking

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208. "That Christian Privilege Persecution Complex in action again"
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Just like they can mobilise against gays legislatively and that's fair game but when Creflo has to file his returns properly for the government that's a Capitol Hill witch hunt.

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125. "he's not even going to live for another 50 years."
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140. "It's not like the ministry will end when he dies. Geesh."
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141. "and after that methinks he won't be spending his eternity in heaven"
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143. "So now you've condemned him to hell over a jet.. WOW"
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You, I, and the rest should hope that we make it.


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144. "i do hope i make it, but i'm also not getting filthy rich off the back o..."
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others, including poor people, in the name of Jesus.

so no, sir, in fact i do not believe in this man's ministry or think it has been approved or sanctioned by God. it has simply been approved and sanctioned by money. he is a hustler, and he does it in Jesus's name.

*edit* and no, i'm not condemning that man to anything. i don't have that power. i said "methinks", not that i will see to it. and if i were condemning him to hell, it wouldn't be only because of the jet, but that would strengthen my argument.

  

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147. "So he's getting filthy rich off the back of others."
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>others, including poor people, in the name of Jesus.
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>think it has been approved or sanctioned by God. it has
>simply been approved and sanctioned by money. he is a
>hustler, and he does it in Jesus's name.
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>don't have that power. i said "methinks", not that i will see
>to it. and if i were condemning him to hell, it wouldn't be
>only because of the jet, but that would strengthen my
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What do you know about Rev. Dr. Dollar? Really. Tell us what do you know about his character and how awful he is?


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148. "i don't understand your blind support of him or his ministry."
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a little discernment would be helpful here. trust, Creflo Dollar is not the only one in that boat. i don't care for or agree with any of 'em.

  

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152. "The old, answer a question with a question trick. SMH."
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>a little discernment would be helpful here. trust, Creflo
>Dollar is not the only one in that boat. i don't care for or
>agree with any of 'em.


I'm not blindly supporting anyone, but it seems that you are blindly going after someone that neither of us know about beyond the great and life changing ministry that he's doing.


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250. "i didn't ask a question, i simply ignored yours."
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what's my problem with CD? my problem with him is that, in my opinion, he's a hustler getting rich in the Lord's name. i can't get with it, Case, I just can't.

remember the pastor i was mourning last week? he's the opposite of Creflo Dollar. this dude was a PhD, but did not go by Dr.

why? because he was a humble man and did not want to be propped up by titles or money or anything else. he wanted no barriers to be between he and his flock. he was a man just like any of us, and recognized that. you know that he would agree to engage in ministry, revivals, guest preaching etc and NEVER discussed money or his wages. he did what he did because he truly loved the Lord, not to make money or get rich. the Lord took care of him just the same, he was not a poor man, but he was a humble man and certainly not a rich man. but he lived a rich life.

i'm sorry, dude. i can't get with Creflo Dollar or his ilk. i simply can't. it goes against everything i feel like being a Christian is all about. am i saying that his message or whatever has absolutely no merit? no, not necessarily. but i cannot and will not get behind or support someone, anyone (honestly, close family is included in this) who will get rich and live a lavish life and do so off the backs of their congregation. it is not what the Lord intends for his messengers and teachers to do. when making money becomes the primary focus, then the focus is misguided and the Lord is no longer driving the "ministry".

  

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251. "Ok. Bruh, Let's just agree to disagree. "
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252. "no doubt. we just conversing here. i definitely will never agree"
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with you on this point. ever. the money driven culture of the Christian church (in many instances) disgusts me.

but you still my dude.

  

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254. "Man I can dig it."
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>with you on this point. ever. the money driven culture of
>the Christian church (in many instances) disgusts me.
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There are plenty of things in the that pastors and people do that get on my nerves too, but this single incident is not one of'em.

Smoke. We still golden.




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72. "RE: Answered the following without deflecting"
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Some more of your low calorie logic.. SMH

  

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153. "The Old Lame Insult Case Tick, just because it's a copout. "
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201. "They're giving you a taste of your own conduct"
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And watching your hypocrisy reveal itself in the reply.

Just IMO though.

  

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237. "Do you smell that?"
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261. "Yes. The fear on you is pungent"
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Just IMO though.

  

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175. "RE: damn"
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>Some more of your low calorie logic.. SMH

ouch

  

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36. "^^ didn't tweet Obama about gay marriage"
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Just IMO though.

  

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37. "Tried building a burnt Strawman. "
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38. "^^ hypocrisy in action again"
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As ineffective as all those unwritten letters to Joel Osteen.

That you're wrong cuz I said so logic might work at church for you, but here it's proof you've got nothing to back you up.

Just IMO though.

  

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39. "And like the Devil, you're here to cause confusion. "
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40. "You're definitely confused, and maybe it's due to the devil"
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But that's got no bearing on me.

Maybe if you could respond to what people say instead of looking to condescend and condemn you'd find clarity.

You stay confused though.

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61. "DJ, Try loving yourself."
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191. "Wow. out of ideas already?"
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Got you reduced to name calling real quick this time.

Just IMO though.

  

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238. "Bye DJ. "
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260. "See ya kid. Come back when you're grown up and not running scared."
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Just IMO though.

  

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42. "strawman? you the one claiming people are asking why he needs plane"
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60. "At the end of the day, y'all really don't care. "
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Just want to have something negative to say abut that man no matter what he does. Y'all act like people need OKP's GD approval to do ministry. #Truth

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167. "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man"
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

  

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48. "You forgot to look up "ad hominem" I guess."
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47. "Whether or not we really care is irrelevant to the argument."
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58. "OK."
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117. "I'm trynna figure out why YOU don't care? "
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The fact that this is not only ok with you, but worth defending says a lot.

You do realize that you have to pay (a lot) to use your own plane right? I'm sure 60m could be used to help a lot of people (like real life help...paying bills and shit like that) instead of using it to fly around just to talk to folks. If I were a preacher I would be pissed at this.

Worldwide ministry shouldn't require that you take from those less fortunate than you. End of story. Anyone that thinks otherwise gets major side eye from me.

Dude is not Jesus. He needs to go sit down somewhere...same goes for you.

>to do World Wide Ministry. These people really don't care,
>people are here just to talk trash behind the mans back. But I
>guarantee that not one of them would ever say anything to his
>face about anything of they saw him in person or even write
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BUY SOMETHING PLEASE ---> www.estherwoovintage.com

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124. "Mother Theresa has done more for people than Creflo..."
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and she didn't need or use a private jet that costs $65 million. Jesus did too. You telling us that Creflo is greater than Jesus?

the fact that you are cosigning this lets me KNOW without a shadow of a doubt now that you are a troll

  

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214. "Mother Theresa was a selfish, hypocritical, misogynist fraud ass bitch."
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>and she didn't need or use a private jet that costs $65
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she opposed birth control for women in the slums of calcutta, opposed abortion, & basic healthcare (Jesus saves after all) and paraded herself as a champion of the poor + disenfranchised.

she also took MILLIONS of dollars from that Haitian dictator “Baby Doc,” and defended him butchering black people by the thousands

also took millions from notorious fraudster Charles Keating (who actually did rob millions from poor Americans) and she refused to return his donation money.

edit, "The Missionary Position" by Christopher Hitchens is an excellent read btw.

She'd be very down to chill and have a drink w/ Creflo

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513. "damn right"
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fuck that bitch for all the needless suffering and misery
she caused people. may she burn in hell

If you're innocent, be cool.
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28. "nigga name creflo dollar"
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30. "^^This is always the classic validation. "
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43. "im having trouble understanding how anyone could ever"
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believe any words coming out of his mouth with a name like that.

www.royallegacy.org

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63. "Girl, I know what you men."
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If he was on Wall Street, he's be making a killing with that name and people would be listening, even with his Government last name.

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79. "if he was a Wall Street crook, he'd at least have to have a biz plan and..."
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but this church crook just says gimme $300 and folks do it.

i mean i really would love to see his budget for international ministry. as well as his results from all the international miles he's logged in the past.

  

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80. "Best believe those funds are audited and accounted for"
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If you want to see the budget, just call and ask for a copy.

My church's budget is available to anyone that ask and most churches have their budget available too.


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82. "lol"
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83. "lol thats not remotely the point"
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he has no reason to lie about how the money is being spent, lol...the problem is that he's not providing any information about how THIS particular plane vs. a cheaper plane will help him with his ministry.

  

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89. "But here is the deal that you are missing"
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Creflo Dollar Ministries (CDM) functions as the helm outreach for World Changers Church International, but I can guarantee that since CDM is foundation there is no commingling of monies/funds with the church (Word Changers) that he pastors. Thus, the Church is not paying for that plane. Just so that you know.

We have the same set-up at my church and in my fraternity chapter. My chapter has a foundation that we operate and raise money for and we have a a general program that we raise money to do work.



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96. "will THIS plane help him spread the gospel better than a cheaper one?"
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how is he justifying the cost?

thats my question and my point.

like i care how their business is structured, lol.

  

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105. "This plane may last them 40 to 50 year and pay for itself"
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>how is he justifying the cost?
>

Maybe usage and longevity and the fact that will become an asset.


>thats my question and my point.
>
>like i care how their business is structured, lol.


OMG. really. You don't but like other's you sure are acting like you care...lol




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114. "you're not making ANY sense."
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"maybe usage and longevity" "maybe it will become an asset"

WHAT???

the basic question is: how will a luxury plane help him spread the gospel better than a cheaper plane?

when you ask people for money, you should respect them enough to justify how that cost helps them accomplish their mission.

if he can say, "I am asking for the money for THIS plane because it is known to last 20 years longer than the average plane, which makes it a more sensible purchase than a cheaper plane."

but instead this man just says, "gimme 300 dollars for this luxury plane."

in any business venture, you dont ask investors for money on some "just because" or "maybe it will..."

it just shows the man has little respect for his congregation and their hard-earned money.

and when i say i dont care about how their business is structured, i mean it. like it matters if its CDM or World Changers Ministries. they're both evil as far as I'm concerned.

i drove by Creflo Dollar's house the other day and felt the evil in the air, lol.

  

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145. "Because I deal with Lifecycle and value of equipment "
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I know exactly what I'm talking about

>"maybe usage and longevity" "maybe it will become an asset"
>
>WHAT???
>

The lifecycle can help with the long-term value to the service of the product.



>the basic question is: how will a luxury plane help him spread
>the gospel better than a cheaper plane?
>
>when you ask people for money, you should respect them enough
>to justify how that cost helps them accomplish their mission.
>


He told the people what the money is for. So if they want to contribute they are well informed.



>if he can say, "I am asking for the money for THIS plane
>because it is known to last 20 years longer than the average
>plane, which makes it a more sensible purchase than a cheaper
>plane."
>
>but instead this man just says, "gimme 300 dollars for this
>luxury plane."
>
>in any business venture, you dont ask investors for money on
>some "just because" or "maybe it will..."
>
>it just shows the man has little respect for his congregation
>and their hard-earned money.
>
>and when i say i dont care about how their business is
>structured, i mean it. like it matters if its CDM or World
>Changers Ministries. they're both evil as far as I'm
>concerned.
>
>i drove by Creflo Dollar's house the other day and felt the
>evil in the air, lol.



Well the people that will choose to give are well informed by his history, character, missions, and service.


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187. "lol, now this is just lies"
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>The lifecycle can help with the long-term value to the service
>of the product.

i dont even know what that means.
maybe you want to say; depreciation?

>He told the people what the money is for. So if they want to
>contribute they are well informed.

no he didnt. he said buy me this plane. nothing about how *this* particular plane will effectively improve his ministry
if its about getting him to where he can do his whatever he does
that opens up a shitload of questions
if he needs it because of speed? really? he is in a race? against what?


>>i drove by Creflo Dollar's house the other day and felt the
>>evil in the air, lol.

i feel it from here!!!!

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234. "So, it's a lie because you don't know about it. OK."
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>
>>The lifecycle can help with the long-term value to the
>service
>>of the product.
>
>i dont even know what that means.
>maybe you want to say; depreciation?
>


No, every product has a financial lifecycle. Even a dumpster has a a financial lifecycle. That is how companies like Wast Management cost out their budget for the dumpsters. And as a former cost accountant for a fortune 100 company that did cost analysis for the life cycle of equipment I know what I'm talking about. But hey if you don't know then say so.


>>He told the people what the money is for. So if they want to
>>contribute they are well informed.
>
>no he didnt. he said buy me this plane. nothing about how
>*this* particular plane will effectively improve his ministry
>if its about getting him to where he can do his whatever he
>does
>that opens up a shitload of questions
>if he needs it because of speed? really? he is in a race?
>against what?
>
>
>>>i drove by Creflo Dollar's house the other day and felt the
>>>evil in the air, lol.
>
>i feel it from here!!!!


So, you didn't see the video where he plainly explained why CDM is requesting the plane?


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271. "no, im saying that you dont know what you are talking about"
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>No, every product has a financial lifecycle. Even a dumpster
>has a a financial lifecycle. That is how companies like Wast
>Management cost out their budget for the dumpsters. And as a
>former cost accountant for a fortune 100 company that did cost
>analysis for the life cycle of equipment I know what I'm
>talking about. But hey if you don't know then say so.

and its show in this paragraph
a product life cycle is very different to what we are talking about
Creflo is not producing this plane so that he's going to look its product life cycle
he's purchasing this plane as a capital asset
and it will have a depreciation % attached to it.

telling me you worked at a fortune 500 company is beside the point
unless you are changing tact and want us to start sharing our work experiences

>So, you didn't see the video where he plainly explained why
>CDM is requesting the plane?

no i didnt, and yet here we are, even you who saw the video cannot explain this,
beyond saying, well they need a plane

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199. "if you knew what you were talking about, you would have FACTS"
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instead of a vague statement like "The lifecycle can help with the long-term value to the service of the product."

that very statement just sounds like some crook shit.

what does that even mean and how does that translate to more people receiving the gospel than they would with a cheaper plane?

its a very simple question.

  

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133. "no they arent. this is how he responded to a senator's request"
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http://www.creflodollarministries.org/About/ResponseToSenator.aspx

basically.. you want to see our finances? uhm no.
moral of the story? that tax exemption code really needs to be re-evaluated

most important paragraph,
"As much as we would like to provide information to the Senator, we simply must do everything within our power to protect our Church and its members from public scrutiny and a Congressional evaluation of the validity of our beliefs. We have no choice, therefore, but to decline to provide Senator Grassley with a response to his inquiries. We are confident that you will agree that this inquiry speaks to the very heart of our First Amendment rights and will concur that compelling a response would certainly violate the Separation of Church and State."

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154. "This matter was a defense against a Capital Hill Witch Hunt "
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involving large churches that would have eventually impacted the 501c3 status of all churches.


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163. "ahh. so thats what we call it these days"
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i think the bigger question here tho is if churches should even have that status
i dont think so

especially if we are talking church-state separation
there's nothing about churches that should exempt them from reporting income from the state...
even if we separate out tithes... and the charitable portions of their work
(and no, ministering does not count)
other than that? i dont see any reason for that tax exemption


>the 501c3 status of all churches.it's your right."

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165. "Well that's your opinion. "
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>i think the bigger question here tho is if churches should
>even have that status
>i dont think so
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>especially if we are talking church-state separation
>there's nothing about churches that should exempt them from
>reporting income from the state...
>even if we separate out tithes... and the charitable portions
>of their work
>(and no, ministering does not count)
>other than that? i dont see any reason for that tax exemption
>
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>>the 501c3 status of all churches.it's your right."
>


What can I say. It's your opinion.



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189. "thats called a cop out"
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loud and wrong as you typically tend to be.

now all of a sudden you are bashful with your opinions?

jehova hold me.

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205. "lol"
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>jehova hold me.

  

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240. "We have a difference of opinion. "
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272. "another copout. this is not a difference of opinions. you are wrong"
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period

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437. "I still love you."
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457. "that actually made my skin crawl"
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not appreciated

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49. "It's also obviously facetious."
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62. "Water is wet too. Did you know that?"
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73. "CREFLO DOLLAR sounds like an MLM/IPO scam"
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32. "lol this dude is bizarro jesus"
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200,000 poor families are about to take food out of their kids' mouths so this dude can live like a saudi prince. reach down and get it, rev.

meanwhile, jesus instructed his followers to sell everything they have and give to the poor. literally the exact opposite of project G650. anyone defending this man in the name of christianity is a liar.

"i smack clowns with nouns, punch herbs with verbs..."

  

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45. "Thinking abt the type of people who will donate. That bothers me the mos..."
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These folks are going to scrap and save to come up with money to give to this cause... Outside of the money he has already taken from them.

Shameful.

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52. "yeah, i started to post something snarky"
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like "a fool and his money." but then you start thinking about who the "fools" are, and you just get mad about it.

and the worst part is he's convincing people that this is what jesus would've wanted-- for poor people to gather what they have so pastor dollar can spread the word in a $60 million G650. this is exactly what it means to use the lord's name in vain.

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44. "even tim cook is like $60mil??? FOH"
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..|.,

If you still don't know what Jade Typhoon is, click here:
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54. "."
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55. "BTW $60 mil could start hundreds of churches around the world"
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on the other hand, there are so many remote villages that-- more than anything else-- need to hear pastor dollar's gospel of financial empowerment.

and nothing will send a more powerful message to the working poor of third-world nations than seeing a man of God stepping down off a luxury gulfstream jet paid for by the working poor of america. so if they can just scrape together the $100,000 they'll need to pay pastor dollar's appearance fee, the get-rich gospel of carpenter-turned-supply-side-economist jesus christ can be theirs for a couple hours.

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70. "Yeah man fuck getting these people clean water or infrastructure"
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lets have a rich man come and talk to them for a while. Provided they convert before they die of dysentery, they'll go to heaven so it's all good.


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71. "RE: Yeah man fuck getting these people clean water or infrastructure"
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^^^^^^^^^^^

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92. "Hear you go. You can join the effort too."
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Instead of complaining you can "Join us in a variety of ways and help empower change around the world!"


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98. "That's awesome. Doesn't convince me he needs the plane."
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I mean that. Genuinely. I don't agree with how western "aid" is administered, including these projects you've presented me with, but I won't knock anyone doing actual work towards making people's lives better. So kudos to him and his organization for doing those things.

Now, how does anything about what you posted support the idea that he needs a 60 million dollar plane? Seriously, I want to hear the actual logical argument that you're making where you see a g650 as something other than superfluous.

That plane isn't going to fly missionaries to disaster zones around the world. It's a business plane.

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156. "So, does he need to convince you that CDM needs the plane?"
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>I mean that. Genuinely. I don't agree with how western "aid"
>is administered, including these projects you've presented me
>with, but I won't knock anyone doing actual work towards
>making people's lives better. So kudos to him and his
>organization for doing those things.
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>Now, how does anything about what you posted support the idea
>that he needs a 60 million dollar plane? Seriously, I want to
>hear the actual logical argument that you're making where you
>see a g650 as something other than superfluous.
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>That plane isn't going to fly missionaries to disaster zones
>around the world. It's a business plane.


Here's your issue with me, you don't like the fact that I don't care about the place or the cost, because I know the good that it will help to provide. And I'm not concerned with the cost if people are willing to help fund the effort and the main church is not suffering and real ministry is still going forth.


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190. "so please tell us this:"
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> because I know the
>good that it will help to provide. And I'm not concerned with
>the cost if people are willing to help fund the effort and the
>main church is not suffering and real ministry is still going
>forth.

what is the good that this plane will help provide?

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242. "No player, the onus is on you. "
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I don't have an issue with the plane.


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273. "you are shaming jesus, peter and paul"
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what kind of person refuses to share information?

and apparently information that show's jesus good works and ministry?

you should just admit you also have no idea and are defending this man blindly
we'll understand
thats called having faith
although the bible also says not to have faith in man but to have faith in god

so in this case, misguided faith

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281. "No, my problem is what I believe is your interpretation of good."
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Relative to the power, influence, and wealth this man and his organization wield, I don't see his actions as a net good.

You do.

That's the disagreement.

I don't buy the sincerity or theological underpinnings of the message he's trying to sell. That he aids some people with what he has is a good thing...then again McDonalds donates money and resources to a variety of charities, and I don't think that they're an overall positive influence on the world.


To me, you're no different than people who excused the opulence of the Catholic church for the past 2,000 years up until the present. If I side with any form of Christianity its the men and women who humbly serve the lord in their every day actions and deeds. Not the ones loudly proclaiming their sanctity, unshakably sure in their own sense of righteousness, as they hold ceremonies in temples they've built to themselves.

There is a hollow form of Christianity that pervades a lot more of the faithful than you seem to be willing to admit.

  

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346. "RE: Yeah man fuck getting these people clean water or infrastructure"
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>lets have a rich man come and talk to them for a while.
>Provided they convert before they die of dysentery, they'll go
>to heaven so it's all good.
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>"All the world's a stage,
>And all the men and women merely players:
>They have their exits and their entrances;
>And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard


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56. "RE: Creflo is raising money for a G650 jet"
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Smh. This is just so sad.

  

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57. "200k People Commited to Sow $300 or More can help achieve our goal..."
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lolololol

man this religion business was definitely the coup de grace for blk folks.

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389. "RE: 200k People Commited to Sow $300 or More can help achieve our goal....."
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AND no taxes either!!!!

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74. "He could adopt a lot of white babies with 60 million, LMAO!!"
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O' tired ass hustling nigga !!!

  

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75. "I'll donate my skype account "
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60 mil and flights running daily from a flipping airport near you
you must have fell and bumped your brain.

I got a good life man

  

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76. "RE: Creflo is raising money for a G650 jet"
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http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Lt4bgksHZ-g/UMMZG2qffyI/AAAAAAAADyE/3W_wRPdUdkg/s1600/pastor-jet.gif

  

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77. "thats a whole lotta love offerings"
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www.instagram.com/schemeofthings

  

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78. "If Jesus wrecked some money changers the fuck do you think"
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he would do to Creflo Dollar?

"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard

  

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81. "THIS is the problem with evangelism"
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THIS is why people are turning away from the church

Creflo Dollar and others like him are the reason why so many people are "going to hell," because people who claim to want to save their souls are such disgraceful human beings that people are like, "is this is Christianity, no thanks."



  

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87. "This is a symptom of churches that need their status revoked "
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If Case and the like want to excuse vanity and opulence as saying the church goers choose to pay for it and it is audited and yadda yadda, then fine, that's the same justification for why CEO's make 8 figures at corporations that are TAXED.

TAX THE FUCK OUT OF THEM like normal businesses and I guarantee "Creflo Dollar" will go back to being Michael Dicksucker Smith.

  

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192. "i agree with this"
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they dont need that tax exempt status- or at least it should not be broadly applied

folks making money being on tv selling cds and merchandise
and we act like that's 'protected by the saintly blood of jesus'

bullshit
*this* is the for profit part of the church
only difference from a regular business
is that tehy get their seed investment from 'tithes'

i.e. the old robbing peter to pay paul

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i myself would never want to be god,or even like god.Because god got all these human beings on this planet and i most certainly would not want to be responsible for them, or even have the disgrace that i made them.

  

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85. "if they like it, i love it"
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as long as my fam's not contributing

  

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90. "IMO, that's all there is to it. "
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RE: if they like it, i love it

That man will need to answer for his own trangressions if he is abusing his power, privilege, and influence over his congregagtion and/or other supporters. There are rich and poor alike who will contribute. I just know there won't a member of #teamr****** contributing though.

  

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86. "I dont care for the ostenatiousness "
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I would rather that money go to ministering to the people with what they need. And i know thats my Catholic background talking.


"Believe it or not, there are still millions of people on this planet who have never heard of Jesus Christ and know nothing of His greatness"

If this is really true then I imagine these folks are struggling with having clean drinking water, food security and education.

I also feel this attitude is arrogant and colonizing steeped in Judeo --Christian white supremacist thought but I digress.



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91. "God economy always booming"
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Recession. Despression. Don't matter


Idiot will always give money to a guy named creflo fuckin dollar

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94. "Do y'all have an issue with a pastor that has a Helicopter too?"
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Well, there's one in the ATL and he uses it to do ministry.




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101. "Hospitals in cities use helicopters to transplant organs."
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How exactly does this guy use his?


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They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard

  

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107. "Hospitals in cities use planes to transplant organs too."
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But you ain't mad about that.



>How exactly does this guy use his?
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He has multiple locations and he uses it to to fly to each of them for services.



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111. "Why would I ever be mad about a hospital saving people? "
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That's a much better use of a plane/helicopter.

>He has multiple locations and he uses it to to fly to each of
>them for services.

Oh...well that's just stupid. Use a car or rotate your speaking schedule and use associate pastors. Who the fuck does this guy think he is where he MUST be at every service?

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And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
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123. "Wonder! Evangeline Maid! Bunny! "
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>Oh...well that's just stupid. Use a car or rotate your
>speaking schedule and use associate pastors. Who the fuck does
>this guy think he is where he MUST be at every service?

He ain't tryna split that loaf.

  

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159. "He's a great pastor and a really good man."
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178. "does he save actual lives like a medical doctor"
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179. "furthermore"
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do you believe all a pastor has to do is just speak the word of god and all is good?

  

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Lardlad95
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282. "I never said he was a bad man or a bad pastor. "
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I'm sure he loves his congregation and believes that he's doing the best buy them....

It also sounds like the man has built himself a little empire, ostensibly in service of god, and possibly to his own ego.

I don't know him personally...but once again, I've been to a few churches in my time, I've met a few pastors with famous names. I'm not unfamiliar with American Christianity, and I'm not saying these things to denigrate Christianity as a faith, I just think that there are people who have given into worldly temptations despite their claims to be serving god.

And I think this is true of a lot of religions. It happens in Islam, it happens in Buddhism, it happens with Hinduism, and Baha'i.

And there's a reason why all of those religions, including yours, warn about pride.


"All the world's a stage,
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They have their exits and their entrances;
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119. "do you understand that "he needs a plane""
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and "he needs $60 million for gulfstream's largest, fastest and most expensive business jet" are two completely different discussions? you're desperate to talk about one, everyone else is talking about the other.

and please stop acting like they're gonna be delivering transported organs in this plane. that's not what a G650 is for.

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149. "Why are you so upset about it?"
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210. "why is this the only thing that you can ever say?"
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1. Why do you care
2. Why are you mad

Whenever you don't have a real response?

  

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241. "Right, that's the ONLY thing that I've said"
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I love these made up responses that are use to validate hot air.

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213. "because he's bilking poor people out their money"
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so he can stunt around in the world's largest, fastest, most expensive private jet. and he's doing it in the name of jesus.

question is: why aren't *you* upset about it, reverend?

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243. "So, you know that poor people are the ones that will give the $300"
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I don't know. Maybe someone will give him 1 million and then it's settled.

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263. "post #262"
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113. "to visit his multiple metro atlanta churches in one day. the chopper is"
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used to avoid traffic (that's how it was explained to me).


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171. "That's the truth."
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>used to avoid traffic (that's how it was explained to me).
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194. "*youve* got to be trolling"
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i myself would never want to be god,or even like god.Because god got all these human beings on this planet and i most certainly would not want to be responsible for them, or even have the disgrace that i made them.

  

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103. "quick! everybody look that way!"
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did you guys see that thing that just happened over in that other direction? we should... we should talk about that thing.

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108. "Serious question Case..."
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If this particular type of ministry seem abhorrent to so many people to the point where it would actively turn them away from christianity, as a man of god, is it not worth your time to meditate and contemplate on why this is shaping how so many potential souls view god's word and the actions of his ministers?

The Catholic church suffered for its opulence...what makes you think these protestants aren't susceptible to a similar fate?

You're so ready to call everyone a hater and shut out their complaints, but doesn't your goal of saving souls require that you not just talk down to people from a position of authority, but to try to understand their complaints?

You don't seem very interested in really pondering why people have such a visceral reaction to prosperity ministry. Are those souls not worth your time? Are you so certain in your interpretation of god's will that you won't take the time to consider why so many people are turning to away from him?


"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
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161. "RE: Serious question Case..."
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>If this particular type of ministry seem abhorrent to so many
>people to the point where it would actively turn them away
>from christianity, as a man of god, is it not worth your time
>to meditate and contemplate on why this is shaping how so many
>potential souls view god's word and the actions of his
>ministers?
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First, you don't really give two craps about the church or the lost souls of this fallen world, so don't come at me with the "How people view God because of other people" crap. As for people's salvation, CD has not done anything that I know about that has negatively impacted the potential souls that are available to receive the message of salvation.



>The Catholic church suffered for its opulence...what makes you
>think these protestants aren't susceptible to a similar fate?
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The church is not suffering simply because of opulence. And no one is renouncing God, because of a plane.


>You're so ready to call everyone a hater and shut out their
>complaints, but doesn't your goal of saving souls require that
>you not just talk down to people from a position of authority,
>but to try to understand their complaints?
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No, I already knew that the OP was as beacon of light for the same old crew, you included that ALWAYS have something negative to say about the Church, GOD, Jesus, Christians, etc.


And if the matter is so bad, then I suggest that you start your own ministry and do it the way that you think is would go. But you wont.


>You don't seem very interested in really pondering why people
>have such a visceral reaction to prosperity ministry. Are
>those souls not worth your time? Are you so certain in your
>interpretation of god's will that you won't take the time to
>consider why so many people are turning to away from him?
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Ok. Why don;t you ask God how to do ministry instead of insulting me.



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217. "we'd rather ask jesus why he preferred to ride a donkey"
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>Ok. Why don;t you ask God how to do ministry instead of
>insulting me.

and live poor instead of really acting like the son of god.

i'd rather sing hosanna than see this dude fly in luxury

seriously, i thought ministry was about humility

you are over here talking about opulence and luxury

that's what brought down the catholic church

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i myself would never want to be god,or even like god.Because god got all these human beings on this planet and i most certainly would not want to be responsible for them, or even have the disgrace that i made them.

  

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348. ""down""
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>that's what brought down the catholic church

those mofos still rollin in billions
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458. "referring to when they were the only game in xtianity"
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before reformation and luther and..

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i myself would never want to be god,or even like god.Because god got all these human beings on this planet and i most certainly would not want to be responsible for them, or even have the disgrace that i made them.

  

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285. "Aight, I think that's about it. "
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Don't tell me that I don't care about the impact or religious institutions on society of the spiritual well being of humanity.

I'm on this message board defending Christianity and Christians from Atheists same as you. The fact that I also cast a critical eye on Christianity doesn't make me defacto your enemy. Maybe it means I actually do give a crap because I'm not just willing to accept easy answers.

Churches of multiple denominations have played an important role in my life. I view religion and spirituality as one of the most important aspects of human culture.

Just because you tow the line on dogmatic doctrines and trite modes of thinking, don't think that makes you better than anyone else who takes an interest in theology.

Here's an idea, you don't like me and others coming in here asking questions, why don't you go talk to some people who will automatically agree with everything you say.

And by the way, I never said anything bad about the Christian "God" or "Jesus". Never. I have spoken poorly of the church because that's a human institution, and I have talked about alternative Christologies because I'm not Christian, but you'd have to be a real hard liner to say that I'm insulting Jesus by discussing his non-biblical historicity. So yeah, lob that accusation at someone else, because that one ain't sticking to me.


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102. "He's going to get that money too."
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Because people equal shit.

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104. "Forget the jet, the real question is this:"
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"there are still millions of people on this planet who have never heard of Jesus Christ and know nothing of His greatness."

Who in 2015 has never heard of Jesus Christ? and millions at that? FOH

  

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109. "He's flying into the Amazon?"
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*deep shrug, breaks backbone*

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112. "There are millions of people in the heart of the Amazon? "
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Even if there were more than 1 or 2 million people in the Amazon...none of the have ever heard of the largest religion on the planet?

"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard

  

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120. "*super deep shrug*"
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110. "China, India, etc."
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115. "If he's trying to convert China he'd be better off buying a Fighter Jet."
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or a small army of dedicated hackers.


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146. "...with a few nukes. "
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Just hope god lets all the children and mentally ill through the pearly gates and let him sort out the rest

  

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166. "lmfao"
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116. "wrong, wrong, WRONG"
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did you know that Christianity is the 3rd largest religion in India?
and I guarantee all the muslims there as well as the ones in China have heard of Jesus

I get it though. Make an emotional appeal based on a false assumption, tug at the heartstrings, and stack paper. Marketing 101. Not mad at him. I just can't clap to "millions have never heard of Jesus (i.e. Christianity)" in 2015.

  

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134. "and also, lol@ china"
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"China on course to become 'world's most Christian nation' within 15 years"

they dont need creflo


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10776023/China-on-course-to-become-worlds-most-Christian-nation-within-15-years.html

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150. "You have a very limited world view playa"
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Hey, there's a Billion people in China and that mean's there are millions of people that don't know Jesus as their Lord and Savior. The same goes for India, and the rest of the world.

FACT

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222. "Actually your world view is limited as fucc"
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>Hey, there's a Billion people in China and that mean's there
>are millions of people that don't know Jesus as their Lord and
>Savior. The same goes for India, and the rest of the world.

one of Jesus apostles (Thomas) sailed to Kerala (a southern Indian state) in 52 AD....following some Jews who had also left the Galilee towards of India after hearing about its open tolerance towards all religions.

India has a tradition of Christianity that is older than Europe's (and just as old as Northern Africa's)

& Indian people have known about Christ just as long as you have. if they aren't Christian, its because they belong to one of the other countless faiths that have found a home in the subcontinent for 4000+ years

You need to put down your bible for a while and pick up a history book.

I can refer you to some if you're inclined enough to educate yourself.

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244. "Do you know my world view?"
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Tell me. What do and what don't I know?


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274. "for one thing, youknow nothing about india and china"
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i'd wager you also know nothing about afr