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Slide #4 is currently a hot topic of discussion on another board I frequent:

"4. Where are the Latinos?

Though it’s an exciting, juicy, melodramatic show, Empire does the Latino community a huge disservice by positioning the entire hip-hop business as black and white — literally. In the pilot episode, when Lucious announces the upcoming IPO, he looks upon a conference room filled with black executives, with only two or three white businessmen in the group. The same is true of the A&R executives over which Anika (played by Grace Gealey) presides in the “False Imposition” episode. There are plenty of Latino publicists, managers, agents, lawyers, and executives within every record label, so why don't we see any on the show? Not a single one? C’mon now! To ignore the Latino community in a series centered on hip-hop music is to perpetuate the myth that, somehow, we weren’t involved in the birth and evolution of this genre, which is not only offensive, but also inaccurate."

I'll be honest
I've only caught one episode
but even as a light-skinned Latina, I don't understand this particular piece of criticism.
The show is about a family business run by a Black family. Empire is THEIR story to tell.

Also
another point that's been thrown around that I totally support
is that yes Latinos should be invited to join the cast
but AFRO-Latinos since they are rarely if ever represented in Latino mainstream media to begin with, much less American mainstream media.

All in all I feel Latina Magazine can have several seats on this topic. What say y'all?

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how you gonna have a story happen in NYC with limited diversity? I get it

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why can't Empire?
where was this outrage when Scandal and HTGAWM dropped?
Or did I miss that boat?
Are there not Latinos in politics and law?
This just sounds like a whole lot of waaaaah bitch waaaaaah.

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Alot of white people in NYC don't really know or deal closely with any minorities.

even visible til like season 11? naaaah

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Friends barely has people of color in the background, they actually had some speaking roles on Seinfeld

To me, it seemed like they were acknowledging and poking fun of their homogeneity.

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I just started watching it on tv a few years ago. I fucking love George, that episode sounds funny as fuck.

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jeez

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Fat Joe in another

BOOM problem solved

Yes both are heavyweights in HipHop
but they still fit the stereotypical light-skinned Latino image.
Maybe cast NORE
or even better
BRING BACK HURRICANE G!!!

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HURRICANE G?

cmon..

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He's not lite lite.

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Afro-Latina at that
yes she did that wack ass PE 2000 song with Diddy
but you can't take away the fact she was a trailblazer in her time
bring her back from obscurity as a manager or oldhead with tons of industry wisdom.
I think it would a great compromise.

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He's been loud and proud about being Black & Puerto Rican from day 1.

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HE reps ALL the time

average American viewer sees Nore on TV, what they gun say, ohh a Puerto Rican, sure

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more the AMERICAN problem
of buying into their own myths that latinos only look one way

and white latinos buying into it
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and it's usually the Mexicans who assume not only that I'm not Mexican, but doesn't speak Spanish. but Mexicans be on that bullshit even with darker skinned kin and even the native/indigenous non-spanish speaking pop.

I have had a few central Americans just stat speaking to me in Spanish off jump, 'cause I think they see it in my features.

but you right theirs levels to that inter-ethnic bigotry

http://www.telemundo.com/novelas

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I don't read Spanish, so one thing I do (usually on the toilet) is just flip through and count the black folks. The low was one, in an ad. Last issue had photos of Zoe Saldana, Beyonce and Rihanna.

I have yet to see a picture of a black man in that magazine.

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be difficult to accomplish and would be surprised if the writers/producers dont address it.

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is set in Miami, no?
where there are about a grillion haitians and other folks of african descent

where dey at tho?

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i guess the defense of that is that jane the virgin isn't a "hip hop show".

i agree this criticism seems silly on its face
but it does harken back to the Seinfeld/Girls critique, which i found legitimate.

presentation of an entire city as mostly white (Seinfeld/girls) is very different from the story of a black-run business being mostly black.

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but not to say they don't have a point

at least he background scenes are diverse and i do hope they bring in some other POCs. especially in the music industry, it makes sense.

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"if the children are not initiated into the village they will burn it down just to feel its warmth." - african proverb

>but not to say they don't have a point

they do but nah
are they for some reason not counting the gay latino?
that creates all sorts of problems

is this really about the "honest depiction of latinos in the record industry"?


>at least he background scenes are diverse and i do hope they
>bring in some other POCs. especially in the music industry, it
>makes sense.

i agree they have more pressing issues of how afro latinos are steadily kept out of the conversation
i have a stake in this too!

and even more pressing???
how DR is treating haitian immigrants and is natural born DR pop who appear "haitian" or black
(yall mofos black too cut it out!)
sheeeeit



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no Latinos working at empire tho

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complaining about how there's no black gay love on TV.

There was even rumblings of discomfort when it looked like Jamal was going to leave his current black boyfriend ("I knew it wouldn't last; black gays on TV have to be interracial relationships or it doesn't work out)

jamal ain't no daddy maybe that lil crocodile dundee will come back

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"if the children are not initiated into the village they will burn it down just to feel its warmth." - african proverb

and I get tired of when people do that shit. Any people.

Same way people felt Empire wasn't serious enough and was "cooning" cause there wasn't some arbitrary Black History lesson tacked onto every episode.

This ain't the story of AAAALLLLLLLLL of hip hop and it's origins.

We haven't seen many latinos, but we haven't seen House of Pain, 3rd Bass, The Beastie Boys, Fab Five Freddy or Afrika Bambataa either.

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so funny i was watching mysteries of Laura last night
peeping the fine ass Laz Alonso
and his blacktino accent was slipping through
there really is one

and realized there were no latinos black or not on Empire
because i missed Empire last night watching season finale The 100

and was like
someone will catch it
cause i can't right now i need to go to bed
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..can we please stop this bullshit whinin' every time someone feels slighted because a hit tv show/film doesn't represent them as well?


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

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"Today is your day to have a better life -- it's your right."

i like ratchet stuff and it's still too bad for me
they have the gay and mental illness angles working i guess, but i'm surprised so many progressive black ppl genuinely like that show

edit: oops thought u were saying empire is stupid.

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everybodys like fk them, they got that fresh off the boat show this year

also...holla @ me when i can see some Black ppl on univision


does it really matter?

wonder what bin's doing?
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>also...holla @ me when i can see some Black ppl on univision

Blackface, yo. And I think it's Univision (I get like 6 spanish-language stations via my DTV converter).

How about starting with removing that negative shit off the network?

Hypothetical question, btw, and nothing to do with Empire. Just piggy-backing off your comment.

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not for nothing there are/were mad asians behind the scenes in the record industry as well

or maybe i just have/had some friends...dunno
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so they really. need to be mad at mainstream media for liking it so much regardless of no latino representation it

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"if the children are not initiated into the village they will burn it down just to feel its warmth." - african proverb

rid of Afro-Australian.

Perhaps the author started watching after episode 7?

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Everything looks like Oprah kissing Harvey Weinstein these days

does it really matter?

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Nor does any group owe us any. Why should there be more Latino presence on a black show about black music when Latin America as a whole has plenty of African influence which it clearly hides. Were there any black folks on George Lopez's show?

Maybe Empire isn't the show for it-- maybe Blackish is.

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Everything looks like Oprah kissing Harvey Weinstein these days

they are the 2nd largest ethnic group in the U.S. and are grossly
under-represented on television. Rarely do we have latino anchors
or commentators on political talk shows, and they do have a point
with regards to their under-representation within the larger culture
in general. Part of that is because they haven't been as successful at lobbying
for it as they could be, but it is a discussion that is worth having.

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>Though it’s an exciting, juicy, melodramatic show, Empire
>does the Latino community a huge disservice by positioning the
>entire hip-hop business as black and white — literally.

I don't think Empire attempts to represent "the entire hip-hop business," but rather one very-successful company.

Starting off with that strawman is just sad.

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I will say there is a sort of #colombiantwitter I follow
but I had to create that sort to speak.

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i'm a part of that


Latina magazine been sideeyed though because yes it took them too long to recognize afrolatinos

they've tried working on it but its a bit like Ebony they were slow and now feel late

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even though Lucious chick did kinda favor early Jennifer lopez fly girl days, however the show is black based and it doesn't have to do a thing different.

however you can never be too black in some eyes even in 2015

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Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

cuz i fucking love her.

i think the show would be much better with latinos. or just more diversity in general.

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one w/more diversity i mean.

i said the same about Seinfeld - i had no problem w/the lack of non-whites on that show. it wasn't that show. and plenty ppl live lives where they don't have much personal interaction w/ppl of other races. it happens. hell, plenty ppl HERE live like that. so we don't need to act brand new when it happens on a successful tv show.

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