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"Gaye family wins $7.4 mil in Blurred Lines case."
Tue Mar-10-15 04:55 PM by Frank Longo

  

          

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Wow - I really thought they'd lose that case
Mar 10th 2015
1
the case shouldn't have survived summary judgment, IMO.
Mar 10th 2015
7
RE: the case shouldn't have survived summary judgment, IMO.
Mar 10th 2015
51
Right?!
Mar 10th 2015
10
yes!
Mar 10th 2015
2
tried to tell these know it all niggas
Mar 10th 2015
65
oh wow
Mar 10th 2015
3
oh...it's a jury verdict.
Mar 10th 2015
4
it does
Mar 10th 2015
9
but getting clearance is nothing new tho right?
Mar 10th 2015
11
      clearance for what?
Mar 10th 2015
16
           the beats of the songs are almost identical...to the point where
Mar 10th 2015
18
           what do you mean 'beats'?
Mar 10th 2015
25
           inspiration is NOT theft.
Mar 10th 2015
64
                thats why i put 'inspiration' in quotes buddy. and its ok if u
Mar 10th 2015
114
                     RE: thats why i put 'inspiration' in quotes buddy. and its ok if u
Mar 10th 2015
119
                          or so he thought.
Mar 10th 2015
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                               RE: or so he thought.
Mar 11th 2015
                               RE: or so he thought.
Mar 11th 2015
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           so youre saying only vocals are protected?
Mar 10th 2015
20
                i'm saying only the actual notes that make up the music.
Mar 10th 2015
26
if you're the defense how do you let it be a jury trial, or do they
Mar 10th 2015
14
      the parties would have to agree to a bench trial.
Mar 10th 2015
34
Good. Detest Theives.
Mar 10th 2015
5
lol this dude robin thicke is having the worst sequence of events ever
Mar 10th 2015
6
He really is.
Mar 11th 2015
157
He'll be alright.
Mar 12th 2015
556
the songs are EXTREMELY similar...blatant rip off.
Mar 10th 2015
8
yes but the parts of GTGIU that Williams and Thicke borrowed
Mar 10th 2015
12
which parts arent protected and why?
Mar 10th 2015
15
      the sheet music is protected.
Mar 10th 2015
22
      right but ppl give credit for interpolations too...which to my understnd...
Mar 10th 2015
28
           yes, when parts of the sheet music are replayed
Mar 10th 2015
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      RE: which parts arent protected and why?
Mar 10th 2015
29
           that's what i hear.
Mar 10th 2015
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                RE: that's what i hear.
Mar 10th 2015
44
                     i dunno.
Mar 10th 2015
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                     RE: i dunno.
Mar 10th 2015
91
                     How many jurors read sheet music? C'mon.
Mar 11th 2015
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                          RE: How many jurors read sheet music? C'mon.
Mar 11th 2015
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RE: the songs are EXTREMELY similar...blatant rip off.
Mar 10th 2015
112
Can't even imagine how many rights owners are drooling right now
Mar 10th 2015
13
This will be bad for music
Mar 10th 2015
17
for real: if you're cheering this you're 1. an idiot and...
Mar 10th 2015
19
yep!
Mar 10th 2015
27
lots are cheering b/c they hate whitey. others b/c they hate Thicke.
Mar 10th 2015
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i mean, that seems to be it. logic has been put out to pasture.
Mar 10th 2015
35
base
Mar 10th 2015
38
shit is reverse racial psychology
Mar 10th 2015
40
^^^this.
Mar 10th 2015
43
not hate, its just that you can't jack an Iconic song period
Mar 11th 2015
263
      . . .
Mar 11th 2015
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           too close for comfort
Mar 11th 2015
410
For real.
Mar 10th 2015
31
don't disrupt them in their RaceWarz slumber.
Mar 10th 2015
56
RE: for real: if you're cheering this you're 1. an idiot and...
Mar 10th 2015
57
yep. and, furthermore, 3. i would like to kick your ass.
Mar 10th 2015
66
Ur unhinged and would likely be the one getting ur ass beat
Mar 10th 2015
74
      fuck off, fuckwit.
Mar 11th 2015
155
           reply 74
Mar 11th 2015
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                you're an idiot, something
Mar 11th 2015
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                     rage on! hope this is helping ur blood pressure
Mar 11th 2015
273
                          thank you.
Mar 11th 2015
278
More likely because it's a white boy
Mar 10th 2015
103
      yall need to stop hiding behind D'Angelo and this racial angle
Mar 11th 2015
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           nah, it's an obvious attempt at recreating
Mar 11th 2015
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gyeah
Mar 10th 2015
21
Every hip hop producer should get sued according to some of you
Mar 10th 2015
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to quote the legendary pete rock 'flip the bass and erase any
Mar 10th 2015
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LOL the jury doesn't know what the fuck they're talking about
Mar 10th 2015
24
the Pauls Boutique of now
Mar 10th 2015
32
This is setting a horrible precedent.
Mar 10th 2015
33
they can and probably will appeal.
Mar 10th 2015
39
      How expensve will the appeal's process be though?
Mar 11th 2015
189
           He and Willliams can afford it.
Mar 11th 2015
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                RE: He and Willliams can afford it.
Mar 11th 2015
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                     this jury trial decision is not binding precedent.
Mar 11th 2015
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                          Interesting.
Mar 11th 2015
258
the fact thicke filed suit first
Mar 10th 2015
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naw.
Mar 10th 2015
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The fact someone files a lawsuit means it has merit? SMH.
Mar 10th 2015
The fact someone files a lawsuit means it has merit? SMH.
Mar 10th 2015
52
Good!
Mar 10th 2015
45
combat jack's view as an entertainment lawyer:
Mar 10th 2015
47
but Williams and Thicke didn't replay music from GTGIU.
Mar 10th 2015
49
his example is entirely different.
Mar 10th 2015
60
base
Mar 10th 2015
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more:
Mar 10th 2015
72
as i'm sure you and Jack know, sampling isn't an issue here.
Mar 10th 2015
75
this shit aint rocket science man. them niggas gambled and lost.
Mar 10th 2015
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      yup, I knlw a producer who is alwahs being sued and he admits he jacks s...
Mar 10th 2015
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      The defendants participated in settlement negotiation.
Mar 11th 2015
186
wow woe ! Music as we know it is ruined!!!! Woe woe
Mar 10th 2015
48
yes and whitey is dead now that Thicke has to pay the Gayes.
Mar 10th 2015
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oh I don't mind robin thicke at all, find pharell very annoying. But ple...
Mar 10th 2015
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      oh my bad. i didn't know Pharrell stole your lunch money
Mar 10th 2015
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      RE: oh I don't mind robin thicke at all, find pharell very annoying. But...
Mar 10th 2015
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           Alicia Keys' 'Like You'll Never See Me Again'
Mar 10th 2015
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                Shit, Alicia Keys' "Fallin'". It's JB's "It's a Man's Man's Man's World"
Mar 10th 2015
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                that's a sample, isn't it?
Mar 10th 2015
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                     It is not. In fact, I dug up my CD booklet to find the liner notes.
Mar 10th 2015
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                          You're right.
Mar 10th 2015
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                          I'm stunned. I never even gave that a second thought. Wow.
Mar 10th 2015
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                          Clive Davis is a lawyer and Lawyers run the business
Mar 10th 2015
144
                               So they just _let_ her take it?
Mar 11th 2015
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                                    if so it's b/c BMG owns both recordings.
Mar 11th 2015
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                                    Warner/Chappell owns IAMMMW, EMI owns Fallin'
Mar 11th 2015
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                                         then i really don't get it.
Mar 11th 2015
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                                    Clive Davis is a lawyer and if he could handle the puffy sampling
Mar 11th 2015
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                Prince loves her and she introduced him at the rock and roll
Mar 11th 2015
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it ain't ruined, but don't think that
Mar 10th 2015
55
Bruno Mars and Mark Ronson are sweating a bit today.
Mar 10th 2015
59
I'll kick in to a crowdfunding site to help Morris Day file suit
Mar 12th 2015
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^
Mar 10th 2015
68
you don't sound very bright.
Mar 10th 2015
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Much like the merit of the suit, your opinion is based on "feel", not fa...
Mar 10th 2015
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agreed
Mar 10th 2015
73
ikr? how dare we offer differing opinions
Mar 10th 2015
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*DEAD*
Mar 11th 2015
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OKP wrong yet again...
Mar 10th 2015
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smart dumb niggas
Mar 10th 2015
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      fuck, you people are idiots.
Mar 10th 2015
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           lol, yall just mad for being on the wrong side
Mar 10th 2015
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                or, we know how much great music jacked older music.
Mar 10th 2015
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                     why the fuck are yall arguing for songs to be jacked without repercussio...
Mar 10th 2015
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                          nobody could pay enough.
Mar 10th 2015
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                               aint no one thinking about that song
Mar 10th 2015
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                                    a song ppl are thinking of is probaly a jack.
Mar 10th 2015
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                                    been listening to music since the 70's... have a shit load of wax from t...
Mar 10th 2015
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                                    which is why i'm calling you a fucking idiot.
Mar 11th 2015
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                                         lol, you mad as shit
Mar 11th 2015
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                                              i don't deny it.
Mar 11th 2015
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                                                   I think fuck off fuckwitt gave it away...lol.
Mar 11th 2015
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                                                        if you think it will be alright
Mar 11th 2015
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GOOD!!!
Mar 10th 2015
63
Who's suing for uptown funk
Mar 10th 2015
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Or Ed Sheeran's Thinking out Loud?
Mar 10th 2015
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lawyers already do this shit...
Mar 10th 2015
141
Kellz is gonna get reamed.
Mar 10th 2015
79
RE: Kellz is gonna get reamed.
Mar 10th 2015
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some of this should be protected by statute of limitations
Mar 10th 2015
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the Gaye Family Loves Kellz and steps with the CHI TOwn's best
Mar 10th 2015
135
know what's MOST ridiculous about this? GTGIU is a ripoff itself.
Mar 10th 2015
81
i don't think Gaye would've filed the suit.
Mar 10th 2015
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we're right ><
Mar 10th 2015
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      /
Mar 10th 2015
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      people sue all the time because they think a song "sounds" like theirs
Mar 10th 2015
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           and in the past those artists have been sent home...
Mar 10th 2015
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           sometimes they win, sometimes they lose...
Mar 10th 2015
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           god damn u stupid son
Mar 11th 2015
225
                chill b.
Mar 11th 2015
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                     Fuck that shit, Robin Thicke is tryin' to kill me(c)Scarface
Mar 11th 2015
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If I recall, there was little structure to it originally
Mar 10th 2015
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RE: Gaye family wins $7.4 mil in Blurred Lines case.
Mar 10th 2015
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because this was before the music industry was broke as fuck
Mar 11th 2015
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RE: Gaye family wins $7.4 mil in Blurred Lines case.
Mar 10th 2015
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gtfoh.... lawsuits happen all the time
Mar 10th 2015
95
      I don't think you follow as to what just happened here....
Mar 10th 2015
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           he won't get it.
Mar 10th 2015
                have several seats...
Mar 10th 2015
108
ppl aplauding this verdict haven't done their research.
Mar 10th 2015
99
continues to nod to a song that was jacked from an old song...
Mar 10th 2015
109
good for them. not sure why ppl think this is the end of music
Mar 10th 2015
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well, yeah.
Mar 10th 2015
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      smh
Mar 10th 2015
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           i decided to go away from the original snark
Mar 10th 2015
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                it wont result in less creativity, just means more checks will get cut b...
Mar 10th 2015
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                     dude, all these songs out here are jacks.
Mar 10th 2015
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                     fuck that lil song...
Mar 10th 2015
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                     computer love is a jack and so is oak tree.
Mar 10th 2015
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                     great... so if someone takes them to court, pay up. If not... oh well.
Mar 10th 2015
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                     lol Oak Tree
Mar 10th 2015
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                          I'm just throwing out jams from back in the day...lol
Mar 10th 2015
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                               I know, that one was funny lol
Mar 10th 2015
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                     so tell these niggas to do better in the way of originality or pay up
Mar 10th 2015
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                          exactly, if it aint original or borrows too much.. pay up.
Mar 10th 2015
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                          and honestly LD i could care less...i aint anti sampling...i came
Mar 10th 2015
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                               I take pride in catching samples... I dig, I grew up on 70s and 80s..
Mar 10th 2015
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                          no ideas original (c) nas
Mar 10th 2015
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                          if the person who D is 'inspired by' comes to him then sit
Mar 10th 2015
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                          aint noooooo one trying to take the few nickels D is making mumbling on ...
Mar 10th 2015
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                          I think you missed my point.
Mar 10th 2015
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                               it doesnt matter. if u can get away with it, so be it. if not pay.
Mar 10th 2015
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                                    yup...and playing that D card won't work
Mar 11th 2015
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                     or it'll mean fewer songs like 'Blurred Lines' or 'Stay With Me' get
Mar 11th 2015
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                          RE: or it'll mean fewer songs like 'Blurred Lines' or 'Stay With Me' get
Mar 11th 2015
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                               Since you know me so well what color are my drawers today?
Mar 11th 2015
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                               dirty
Mar 11th 2015
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                                    it could change it drastically.
Mar 11th 2015
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                                    "this could be the end" is some shit people say when they lose...
Mar 11th 2015
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                                         i love "master blaster."
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                                              RE: i love "master blaster."
Mar 11th 2015
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                                              I hated Master Blaster
Mar 11th 2015
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                                                   jammin', bob marley.
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                                                   If you don't hear Jammin in Master Blaster then ionno...
Mar 11th 2015
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                                    i don't think it'll end music as we know it.
Mar 11th 2015
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                               this is like saying the jury got the trayvon case right
Mar 11th 2015
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                                    you really bringing up Trayvon? Cmon bruh.. that's foul
Mar 11th 2015
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Fakerell and Robin Hood got what they deserved
Mar 10th 2015
136
but rick james doesn't owe p-funk any money, right?
Mar 10th 2015
143
FYI George Clinton admired and Respected RIck James
Mar 10th 2015
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      "I don't care if ppl jack me, I jacked it from somebody else."
Mar 10th 2015
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           Rick James never got sued like these two jive turkeys
Mar 11th 2015
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LOL. Kellz is gonna get so fucked by this decision.
Mar 11th 2015
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      how you figure? Kellz been influenced by alot of acts
Mar 11th 2015
159
the real loser in this is the James Brown Estate
Mar 10th 2015
139
aren't you an r. kelly fan?
Mar 10th 2015
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      big time R.Kelly fan and here and he ain't getting sued
Mar 11th 2015
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I'm curious, if jazz had only come into existence in this century
Mar 10th 2015
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it would look completely different.
Mar 10th 2015
150
yes because it would be less profitable than panhandling
Mar 11th 2015
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      I suppose I wanted to / should add to my hypothetical
Mar 11th 2015
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th people behind Kid Ink's new album should be shuddering too.
Mar 11th 2015
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Blurred Lines is a McDougall's
Mar 11th 2015
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^ gets it.
Mar 11th 2015
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music copyrights should expire after 20 years
Mar 11th 2015
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nah man because then it would be open season on classics
Mar 11th 2015
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but i welcome open season on classics
Mar 11th 2015
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      especially in this 'my nerd dick is bigger than yours' world
Mar 11th 2015
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RE: music copyrights should expire after 20 years
Mar 11th 2015
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YES! At first I thought they had a great shot, then I listened to TOKPR
Mar 11th 2015
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As Sha alluded to, Bruno & Mark gotta pay Morris Day & The Time for UF.
Mar 11th 2015
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which is ridiculous.
Mar 11th 2015
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True, getting caught doing some shady mess can have terrifying results.
Mar 11th 2015
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      <sigh>
Mar 11th 2015
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      see also - the jury in this case.
Mar 11th 2015
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           yep.
Mar 11th 2015
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                I bet there was a battl of experts.
Mar 11th 2015
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      If you think what Pharrell did was shady, you can't know anything
Mar 11th 2015
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           saying it over and over doesn't make it true bruh...
Mar 11th 2015
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                It's self evident at this point. Your opinion is based on how you feel.
Mar 11th 2015
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                     well, my feelings were correct on this one
Mar 11th 2015
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                          maybe we just like and know more music than you.
Mar 11th 2015
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                               or maybe not?
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                                    not if you're taking this tack, friend.
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                                         leave me lone, fuckwitt
Mar 11th 2015
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                                              you seem to be wearing that cap, since it fits
Mar 11th 2015
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                                                   fuckwitt is hilarious tho...it really showed your anger.
Mar 11th 2015
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                                                        anger - and also alliteration.
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dead @
Mar 11th 2015
234
T.I. is a very very happy man.
Mar 11th 2015
187
http://erkekakli.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/tumblr_moeb2psuf41svxy91...
Mar 11th 2015
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Welp, say goodbye to D'Angelo.
Mar 11th 2015
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D will be fine
Mar 11th 2015
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he owes the stylistics and the delphonics and prince royalties
Mar 11th 2015
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Black Messiah isn't selling enough for anyone to give a fuck
Mar 11th 2015
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      lmao, he's performing it too
Mar 11th 2015
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           money IS the only reason the estate moved on this...
Mar 11th 2015
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he owes the stylistics and the delphonics and prince royalties
Mar 11th 2015
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not if his label isn't willing to pay artists he pays homage
Mar 11th 2015
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      black messiah would cost millions to clear.
Mar 11th 2015
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      potentially, yeah.
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           Ronson is screwed.
Mar 11th 2015
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           Correct. That Mystikal song alone....
Mar 11th 2015
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      RE: not if his label isn't willing to pay artists he pays homage
Mar 11th 2015
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Drake jacked #hashtag rap, so he'd be the one paying.
Mar 12th 2015
569
"Got-to-give-it- up!"...mwahahahahaha
Mar 11th 2015
210
yo, you're hilarious.
Mar 11th 2015
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ERRYBODY PAY UP!!
Mar 11th 2015
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      HEY HEY HEY...LOL
Mar 11th 2015
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      LOL
Mar 11th 2015
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      lol!
Mar 11th 2015
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      LOL.
Mar 11th 2015
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      LOL.
Mar 11th 2015
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      LOL.
Mar 11th 2015
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Don't think it was the right decision.
Mar 11th 2015
227
Iggy gotta pay Da Brat & all Blk women w/ pear shapes + fat asses.
Mar 11th 2015
238
wow so u ppl are like fuck marvin gaye's kids and cant even
Mar 11th 2015
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i don't know people's motives for being happy about it
Mar 11th 2015
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the Gayes ain't starving.
Mar 11th 2015
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lol ikr?
Mar 11th 2015
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The Gaye family never said it was about the money. It's the prinicple.
Mar 11th 2015
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u honestly think this was about money for them?
Mar 11th 2015
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100%.
Mar 11th 2015
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yeah. i do.
Mar 11th 2015
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none of these dudes are starving
Mar 11th 2015
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OKP has a bunch of creatives + lovers of art who see the bigger picture
Mar 11th 2015
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i could give a fuck about robin thicke or 'blurred lines'
Mar 11th 2015
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i couldnt read beyond u saying nona gaye was crying we won
Mar 11th 2015
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YOU BEING VERY CASE ONE IN THIS POST, BLACK PRINCE
Mar 11th 2015
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      he's trolling for sure.
Mar 11th 2015
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      im with the gaye family and happy they won, ill take a wait and
Mar 11th 2015
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           and then after you cash your check from the Gaye estate
Mar 11th 2015
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                when does your album drop?
Mar 11th 2015
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                     after i settle w/the Gaye estate.
Mar 11th 2015
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how many checks does prince owe carlos santana?
Mar 11th 2015
269
clueless.
Mar 11th 2015
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reply 74 oh and also stay mad lmao
Mar 11th 2015
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      die in a fire.
Mar 11th 2015
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           the cash from the Gaye estate check will make great kindling.
Mar 11th 2015
314
           damn yo.. you really are mad. Not like this fam. LOL...
Mar 11th 2015
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           ppl in here bein REAL disrespectful and talkin tuff over this shit dog.....
Mar 11th 2015
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                real disrespectful fam..lol
Mar 11th 2015
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                     buddy told fam to go die in a fire!! cot damn lol
Mar 11th 2015
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                          fuck that guy.
Mar 12th 2015
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           IDIOTS!!!! ur ruining music!! *bangs fists into head furiously*
Mar 11th 2015
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                be careful fam, they are driving down 85S to set it off.
Mar 11th 2015
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                     blasting nothing but Thicke music the whole way.
Mar 11th 2015
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                          whatever u may be (and thats many things...)....
Mar 12th 2015
424
                               same to you, player.
Mar 12th 2015
425
So.... once again... this is about your feelings, not the facts.
Mar 11th 2015
267
reading thru these responses i have to agree with legsdiamond
Mar 11th 2015
276
the way you make me feel jacked thousands of blues records.
Mar 11th 2015
282
i dunno but shockzilla is about to shoot up a coffee shop or
Mar 11th 2015
283
lol.
Mar 11th 2015
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      i hope u dont think ur replies in here demonstrate ur intelligence lol
Mar 12th 2015
420
jury verdicts are always correct?
Mar 11th 2015
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no more than they are always wrong
Mar 11th 2015
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      and this jury made a wrong decision, IMO.
Mar 11th 2015
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      that sets the bar mad fucking low
Mar 11th 2015
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           RE: that sets the bar mad fucking low
Mar 11th 2015
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                why did Pharell say some bullshit?
Mar 11th 2015
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                     do you read or play music?
Mar 11th 2015
331
                     he's completely trolling. LOL
Mar 11th 2015
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                     trolling because I'm not agreeing with you? LOL... cmon bruh
Mar 11th 2015
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                     i'm so mad i'm over here deleting all Gaye songs off my iPod.
Mar 11th 2015
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                          so mad your jokes arent hittin
Mar 11th 2015
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                               so mad i'm refusing to refer to my client 'Marvin' by his first name.
Mar 11th 2015
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                                    yep, try again tomorrow
Mar 11th 2015
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                                         the world ends tomorrow.
Mar 11th 2015
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                                              shieeet, the way yall acting I thought it would end tonight
Mar 11th 2015
368
                                                   it might, actually.
Mar 11th 2015
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                     word. lol
Mar 11th 2015
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                     Fronted a live band for 8 years, opened for Amel, Roots, Outkast
Mar 11th 2015
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                          yeah...so much for trollin'
Mar 11th 2015
355
                               then you know that songs use the same progressions all the time.
Mar 11th 2015
374
                                    I never argued it was a sample...
Mar 11th 2015
392
                                         Ray couldn't have created Soul music in this new climate.
Mar 11th 2015
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                                         he got away with it- good for him.
Mar 11th 2015
399
                                         a short list of estates that will be billionares in a week...
Mar 11th 2015
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                     RE: why did Pharell say some bullshit?
Mar 11th 2015
379
bingo G-money
Mar 11th 2015
287
how does a case with no legs get this far and win?
Mar 11th 2015
332
wrong spot
Mar 11th 2015
339
smh, them Lyle, Lyle Crocodile ass tears...
Mar 11th 2015
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And do u all think those small indie artists will be getting sued en mas...
Mar 11th 2015
295
      the apocalypse starts tomorrow.
Mar 11th 2015
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      of course not.
Mar 11th 2015
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      not en masse, and hopefully not even in very large numbers.
Mar 11th 2015
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wtf lmao
Mar 12th 2015
566
yall ready?..Bette Davis Eyes:Little Red Corvette
Mar 11th 2015
242
ICGFT:Billy Jean:Like A Virgin:Carribean Queen
Mar 11th 2015
247
there is a song that predates the melody in 'got to give it up'
Mar 11th 2015
248
Disco Lady?
Mar 11th 2015
no, it was a pre-reggae song
Mar 11th 2015
257
Disco Lady?
Mar 11th 2015
249
Ain't gonna take long for a ?uestlove type nigga
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crate diggin:legal diggin
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great analysis of the songs in here:
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B-B-B-BUT IT FEEEEEEELS THE SAME!!!!!
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RE: B-B-B-BUT IT FEEEEEEELS THE SAME!!!!!
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      i seriously think (w/o having seen the trial) that the jurors
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           RE: i seriously think (w/o having seen the trial) that the jurors
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           ^^^^^THIS is why i ain't mad at the verdict^^^^^^
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                why were they lying?
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                b/c satan.
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                     white or black satan?
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                          white one, of course.
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                Thy're lying like many artists lie that take these
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That's a great breakdown.
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i agree.
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^^^researched that while typing out his murder-suicide manifesto
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      I came to the same conclusion playing both bass lines on piano.
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      i've tried singing BL on top of GTGIU
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      ^^^had nothing to say about the clear evidence
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      So happy for Nona Gaye and her siblings, justice was served
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           tomorrow, not in 2 weeks.
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           are you still a Van Hunt fan?
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                i sure am and i'll be sure to check everyday to see how the lawsuits
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      lmao
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      LOL.. chill b.
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MJ owes thousands of blues artists money for TWYMMF.
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he owes the Gayes for Don't Stop Til You Get Enough
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      I'm sure they are on it now lol
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      the Jackson estate has a statute of limitations defense
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      interesting, thanks
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      i would like to see that knock down drag out case frankly
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      he owes Mavis for using "Shamon!"
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           ^ actual and factual.
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           and stevie for "hee hee"
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40 pop songs that are all "the same." (jack black video)
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this video is great.
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and it shows why this verdict is ridiculous.
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      oh, they'll never get it.
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Whoaaaaaa this is amazing and I only know 1/3 of the songs
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Jack Black?
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Post-verdict, Gayes mull over 'Happy' vs. 'Ain't That Peculiar' (link)
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Marvin. didn't. write. that. song.
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Just reporting related news is all; hadn't looked up the writers...
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      word.
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      Written by Smokey Robinson & three of the Miracles
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I just HOLLERED. For the reason SoWhat said and
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Wow, that's way more ridiculous than even the current claim.
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RE: Gaye family wins $7.4 mil in Blurred Lines case.
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Pharrell might've been better off
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      his testimony was trash..lol
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           i'd have disregarded him and gone w/the experts.
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           not smarter, just a lawyer
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                and pretty too.
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                     sweet doctor
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                          I'm that. Plus I'm clever.
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                               I dont know, why but I believe you...
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           RE: his testimony was trash..lol
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                so why are people so mad?
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                     Bc Nona ain't giving up the nappy dugout.
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                     RE: so why are people so mad?
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                          maybe they win.. maybe they wont
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                               RE: maybe they win.. maybe they wont
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                               this is how i know you are trolling.
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                                    the sheet music for Stay With Me and Dont Back Down was posted twice in ...
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                                    this is how I know you aren't actually reading
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so now Robin Thicke & Pharrell have to sue Nickelodeon
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Uh oh
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      Im joking but yeah
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           I almost wanna instigate and see if it happens
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GREAT breakdown of why this decision is horseshit.
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Yupp, I agree!
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For those siding with verdict, how do you think sub-genres are created?
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Ray Charles 'created' Soul music by secularizing Gospel songs.
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they come up with new shit, son.
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whatever you create, if you borrow and get called out on it
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      i'm gonna invent some new notes to play!
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      you are so smart I think you can do it
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           based on your responses, i think you think i can.
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                if you are from VA you can do anything
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      Agreed
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What will this verdict mean for works like "Hairspray" the musical
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stop asking pertinent questions.
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Thicke's track was obnoxiously biterific but shouldn't be illegal
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Stevie Wonder sez: WRONG
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el Debarge channeled and was motivated
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after a bit of thought
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stop trolling
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lol
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IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!! how dare u not be enraged and dismayed
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it's not the same song. (c) Stevie Wonder.
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Not according to a jury of your peers though.
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So?
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i don't hear it frankly either
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What did she say about black or white ppl tho?
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      k.
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      yeah thats one of the most base themes in this post and
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           damn. i'm so concerned w/your opinion of me and my posts
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           LOL, I notice this a lot with very specific posters on here...
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                I dunno about them but *i* do it bc I'm trying to fuck.
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But they didn't use anything from the song.
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      pharell admitted he based it
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I've been sayin' for years that he bit Prince's "Crazy You" on
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the world without music....Day 1
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^ made it rain @ Swinging Richard's all night w/Gaye family cash.
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I was afraid I wouldn't wake up this morning
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im afraid to turn on my radio in the car bcz all ill hear is static!!!
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Okay To Hate Thicke, but Verdict is Bad For Pop Music (Washington Post S...
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common sense = people/articles that agree with me
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RE: common sense = people/articles that agree with me
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George Clinton worked with Outkast, so nah he won't sue them.
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bottom line as well, some get caught and called and some don't
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Ripped off or not, the real tragedy
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RE: Ripped off or not, the real tragedy
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I dunno bro, I'm talking about the incident at hand.
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RE: I dunno bro, I'm talking about the incident at hand.
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No, that does not make objective sense.
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      RE: No, that does not make objective sense.
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           Exactly, we can go on and on, but the law has spoken. Shrug.
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                RE: Exactly, we can go on and on, but the law has spoken. Shrug.
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                     Which particulars are you referring to?
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                          RE: Which particulars are you referring to?
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                               #509
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In other words, you don't know what you're talking about.
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      Every artist is not on the stand.
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           if you don't agree with them, you just don't get it.
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           that is correct.
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           In other words, you don't know what you're talking about.
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                More anecdotal evidence that has no place in the case.
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                     RE: More anecdotal evidence that has no place in the case.
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                          I already stated it was the wrong decision.
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                               RE: I already stated it was the wrong decision.
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                                    Sounds fair.
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when ray charles started out he sound like Nat king cole and others
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er thats always been the state of music
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      No, it hasn't.
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           yes actually it has
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           No, it actually hasn't.
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                the beatles and nirvana sound nothing alike.
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                Before we continue
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                     I saw her standing there | on a plain
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                          You're reaching with that one.
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                               blurred lines and gtgiu are not in the same key, either.
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                                    Sure, but they sound alike.
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                                         all songs sound like other songs.
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                                              No they don't.
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                                                   reply 458.
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                                                        Cool, here is something of mine.
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                once again yes it is
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                     I don't think we are debating the same thing.
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           lol
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where do songs come from?
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until we hear your music, we will never know..
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this is the first song i ever recorded.
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      when you get a few million downloads
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           every song is written like that.
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                they just don't get it, man
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welp initiationofplato believes in those fairies
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      you made the same argument in 416 though.
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      yep
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      You clearly have not studied music.
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           geniuses do the opposite of that.
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           Not in my opinion.
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                in other words, you jack other ppl's shit.
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                     No, you are choosing to play within the confines of what makes *Jazz*
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           you have no idea what you are talking about
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                I'm pretty sure I do. Thanks for your participation.
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                     you keep typing and showing us you don't
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                          whatever ;)
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                               no, you really don't, 'Tek
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                                    Listen bob.
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                                         wikipedia quotes?
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                                              Bob, we all have opinions.
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                                                   fair enough
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                                                        Sounds good & Sure do.
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                                                             Here you go.
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To those defending this nonsense....
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Niggas want art but don't understand how art is made.
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.....oooooorrrrrr, pharrell and thicke got caught up in their own
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and these people mad as shit about it...lol
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basically.
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1. ppl really hate pharrel it seems. 2. early ska and reggae would be fu...
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i like pharell, i like(d) that song
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+1, I like the song and I'm a big Pharrell fan...
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people are fucking clueless.
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pretty much
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RE: 1. ppl really hate pharrel it seems. 2. early ska and reggae would b...
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      only thing I hate are those big ass hats
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      i didn't like that new black shit
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Why The “Blurred Lines” Verdict Probably Won’t Change (link)
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oh cool....I can make a straw man, too.
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      you've proven that already
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           I started this post being serious, now I am trolling.
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Were yall this mad when Sam Smith had to pay Tom Petty?
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Were the similarities enough to where the chord structures are exactly t...
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he doesn't understand your question.
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RE: Were yall this mad when Sam Smith had to pay Tom Petty?
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nope.
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Nicholas Payton weighs in (shits diarrhea on Pharrell) (SWiPe)
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He's essentially admitting that there are enough differences....
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N.Payton has a very non-eurocentric view of Black music.
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      it's bullshit, dude.
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      reminds me of my white band mates who didn't like hot shit
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           Haha, word.
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That shit that makes your soul burn slow
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lol.
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another well informed musician whos opinion might actually carry
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he's a great writer, but he frequently goes off on weird tangents.
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lol, come on fam.
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every song doesnt remind me of another song...as a matter of
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      basically
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Good points.
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it's not the same song. (c) Stevie Wonder.
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yup
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He can go get run over by a Brinks Truck. "Fuck hip-hop" indeed
Mar 12th 2015
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      LMAO, everyone is bias
Mar 12th 2015
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      Like god damn all the issues getting unpacked
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      Thank you. I didn't have time earlier to break down...
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      You think he doesn't have a point about sampling though?
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           We had those sample arguments decades ago of it being 'stealing' and 'la...
Mar 12th 2015
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                So he does have a point... or did you avoid that on purpose?
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                I can feel the spittle in my face with the way he used 'steal'
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                ...because musicians don't steal?
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                Ew puffy though
Mar 12th 2015
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Justin Timberlake was smart
Mar 12th 2015
517
country music is doomed
Mar 12th 2015
525
This part right here:
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i doubt Marvin would've filed the suit
Mar 12th 2015
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      right.
Mar 12th 2015
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      I'm inclined to agree.
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still lol @ Oak Tree
Mar 12th 2015
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Shake your leaves
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      RE: Shake your leaves
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Nicholas Payton on the verdict (SWiPe) --- Posted today 3/12/15
Mar 12th 2015
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He writes like he's a member of the Black Israelite Jazz Club.
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      or a sovereign citizen.
Mar 12th 2015
568
      RE: or a sovereign citizen.
Mar 12th 2015
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      Black American Music club #BAM
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I'm wondering when someone's gonna address post 446?
Mar 12th 2015
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when they understand the implications of your question.
Mar 12th 2015
579
A+ post, would read again
Mar 12th 2015
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Nicholas Payton's (current) take
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Posted it in #555. Glad to see someone else fuckin with it tho.
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Day 2 and music is still being played on the radio
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Ronson &amp; Mars covering ass, Official remix with Trinidad James
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vee-lover
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1. "Wow - I really thought they'd lose that case"
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7. "the case shouldn't have survived summary judgment, IMO."
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it shouldn't have even made it to a jury trial - as most similar suits don't.

but oh well.

fuck you.

  

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51. "RE: the case shouldn't have survived summary judgment, IMO."
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>it shouldn't have even made it to a jury trial - as most
>similar suits don't.
>
>but oh well.

Yep...

A terrible precedent for the music biz.....

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10. "Right?!"
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A sample is ONE thing, but reistrumentation is out of bounds now?

FUCK

Good luck writing a song, now.

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2. "yes!"
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prototype

stand ur ground, believe in urself,
believe in love, prepare urself for love, remove the negativity from ur life, and accept the love u kno u deserve

  

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65. "tried to tell these know it all niggas"
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3. "oh wow"
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4. "oh...it's a jury verdict."
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okay.

but damn...i hope this doesn't have wider implications in the music biz.

fuck you.

  

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9. "it does"
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I, for one, will be watching my step when I'm working on hip hop shits.

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11. "but getting clearance is nothing new tho right?"
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16. "clearance for what?"
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a groove? a feel?

clearance is needed when one uses some copyright protected elements of a sound recording or a composition. as a general matter production elements aren't copyright protected.

fuck you.

  

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18. "the beats of the songs are almost identical...to the point where"
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as soon as i heard robins i knew exactly what "inspired" it

  

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25. "what do you mean 'beats'?"
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i've tried singing 'Blurred Lines' on top of 'GTGIU' and couldn't b/c the songs are so different. i agree that when i first heard 'Blurred Lines' i knew the song was inspired by 'GTGIU'. but since the actual songs are different (songs = the notes) i figured the Gayes would and should lose this suit.

fuck you.

  

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64. "inspiration is NOT theft."
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stop.

  

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114. "thats why i put 'inspiration' in quotes buddy. and its ok if u "
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disagree... the court didn't. take it up with them

  

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119. "RE: thats why i put 'inspiration' in quotes buddy. and its ok if u "
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FunNy enough..

Sony/atv/emi published both songs.. Pharell would've had to clear it with his own publishing company.. Clearly his song did not rise to the level of needing a clearance.. From his/gaye's publisher..

They also figured out how to weasel out the suit before it went to trial

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129. "or so he thought."
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>Clearly his song did not rise to the level of needing a clearance..

  

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"RE: or so he thought."


          

So he thought? I mean so sony thought.. You think they dont want MORE of 'rells publishing..

But like i said.. It'll be appealed and they probably pay nothing..

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151. "RE: or so he thought."
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So he thought? I mean so sony thought.. You think they dont want MORE of 'rells publishing..

But like i said.. It'll be appealed and they probably pay nothing..

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20. "so youre saying only vocals are protected?"
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26. "i'm saying only the actual notes that make up the music."
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this:

http://cloud.freehandmusic.netdna-cdn.com/preview/530x4/hal_leonard/hl_dds_0000000000208640.png

fuck you.

  

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14. "if you're the defense how do you let it be a jury trial, or do they"
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not have a choice?

  

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34. "the parties would have to agree to a bench trial."
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in a criminal case the defendant gets to choose. in a civil case the parties have to agree.

as the defendants here i think i would've preferred a bench trial. but maybe i would've wanted a jury b/c the defendants are celebrities who could use their charm to sway a jury. i dunno.

fuck you.

  

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5. "Good. Detest Theives. "
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"Today is your day to have a better life -- it's your right."

  

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6. "lol this dude robin thicke is having the worst sequence of events ever"
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157. "He really is."
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556. "He'll be alright. "
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______________________________________

Everything looks like Oprah kissing Harvey Weinstein these days

  

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8. "the songs are EXTREMELY similar...blatant rip off."
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12. "yes but the parts of GTGIU that Williams and Thicke borrowed"
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are NOT protected by copyright.

so it's kinda baffling that the judge didn't dismiss the suit outright.

and i wonder if the verdict will w/stand an appeal.

fuck you.

  

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15. "which parts arent protected and why?"
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22. "the sheet music is protected."
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the notes and such. and then the actual recording itself.

the defendants had musicologists who'd shown that none of the actual sheet music (the notes) were similar enough to support the position that Williams and Thicke had used the music from GTGIU. of course, the Gaye family had musicologists who'd reached an opposing conclusion. and the Gaye family didn't claim that the defendants had sampled the sound recording itself. at trial the questions for the jury related to the sheet music, i think. the jury found that BL did have enough similarities to the GTGIU sheet music that they found for the plaintiffs. i assume the case came down to a 'battle of the experts' and the jury sided w/the Gaye family expert musicologists. i dunno why b/c i wasn't present for the trial.

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28. "right but ppl give credit for interpolations too...which to my understnd..."
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is replaying parts..."this song contains interpolations of xxxx..." maybe that verbiage and a small fee woulda cleared it up

  

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36. "yes, when parts of the sheet music are replayed"
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but the resulting sound recording isn't a cover of the original source material that's an interpolation which must be credited (unless some agreement has been reached).

that's not what happened here to my untrained ears. and some musicologists agree.

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29. "RE: which parts arent protected and why?"
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They lifted "groove" and feel.. none of the music is the same.. that actually chord progression is different as are the words and melody..

This shouldn't have won..

I wouldnt be surprised if everyone was just overly technical and went over the jurors heads..

The jury was more like "it kinda sounds like it.. so" yea

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42. "that's what i hear."
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like i said earlier, i've tried singing Blurred Lines over GTGIU and couldn't do it b/c the songs are too different. GTGIU goes up when BL goes down and vice versa. it just didn't work. however, it's clear that BL was inspired by GTGIU b/c i immediately thought of GTGIU when i heard BL. to me that's one of BL's charms.

fuck you.

  

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44. "RE: that's what i hear."
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Agreed..

What I wonder is.. how with ONLY the sheet music did they convince the jury it was stolen?

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46. "i dunno."
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i was just wishing that the defense could've had Thicke sit in the witness stand and sing 'Blurred Lines' on top of 'GTGIU' as i did to show the jury that the songs themselves aren't similar. but the judge barred both parties from playing the original sound recording of 'GTGIU' during the trial since the original sound recording wasn't part of the case.

fuck you.

  

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91. "RE: i dunno."
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I have a feeling it'll get overturned in appeals..

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169. "How many jurors read sheet music? C'mon."
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Da bayball, babeh. (c) Charlie Kelly.

  

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217. "RE: How many jurors read sheet music? C'mon."
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That is precisely the problem...

The whole case was "above their paygrade" so to speak.. They would have zero clue that the songs though both major arent in the same key or chords..

This ruling is very slippery since it is a copyright suit.. it's basically saying if you admit that a previous copyrighted work has influence and that you heard it.. you have to somehow clear the copyright for yours...

But then who clears copyright for these?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9bOsdHckhg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaC5ZKRjLUM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUEPhE12I9s

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112. "RE: the songs are EXTREMELY similar...blatant rip off."
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Thank you for the most sensible reply in this post.

  

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13. "Can't even imagine how many rights owners are drooling right now"
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The lawsuit flood gates have been opened!!!

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17. "This will be bad for music"
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The same way sample litigation and exorbitant sampling fees limited creativity in hip-hop. Pop and rock music will feel the repercussions of this verdict in years to come.

  

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19. "for real: if you're cheering this you're 1. an idiot and..."
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2. you have no idea what you're cheering for.

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27. "yep!"
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30. "lots are cheering b/c they hate whitey. others b/c they hate Thicke."
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still others b/c they hate Pharrell.

they don't understand or care about the potential broad implications here.

fuck you.

  

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35. "i mean, that seems to be it. logic has been put out to pasture."
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38. "base"
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>they don't understand or care about the potential broad
>implications here.
or they're not really music lovers so they don't care.

  

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40. "shit is reverse racial psychology"
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won't hit em til next month.

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43. "^^^this."
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263. "not hate, its just that you can't jack an Iconic song period"
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and got to give it up has carries that kind of weight

mistermaxxx R.Kelly, Michael Jackson,Stevie wonder,Rick James,Marvin Gaye,El Debarge, Barry WHite Lionel RIchie,Isleys EWF,Lady T.,Kid creole and coconuts,the crusaders,kc sunshine band,bee gees,jW,sd,NE,JB

Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

  

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291. ". . ."
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http://joebennett.net/2014/02/01/did-robin-thicke-steal-a-song-from-marvin-gaye/

fuck you.

  

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410. "too close for comfort"
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most folks of a certain age and time gonna say that the White boy jacked marvin gaye straight up sorry but its true. heard on seen.

they would have been better off either having horns or given a sampling credit to do anything so close to the source IMO.

dude made points and yet its too close for alot of peoples comfort. and it sounds real close on sound.

mistermaxxx R.Kelly, Michael Jackson,Stevie wonder,Rick James,Marvin Gaye,El Debarge, Barry WHite Lionel RIchie,Isleys EWF,Lady T.,Kid creole and coconuts,the crusaders,kc sunshine band,bee gees,jW,sd,NE,JB

Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

  

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31. "For real."
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Since 1976

  

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56. "don't disrupt them in their RaceWarz slumber. "
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57. "RE: for real: if you're cheering this you're 1. an idiot and..."
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>2. you have no idea what you're cheering for.




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66. "yep. and, furthermore, 3. i would like to kick your ass."
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74. "Ur unhinged and would likely be the one getting ur ass beat "
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prototype

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believe in love, prepare urself for love, remove the negativity from ur life, and accept the love u kno u deserve

  

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155. "fuck off, fuckwit."
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241. "reply 74"
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prototype

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believe in love, prepare urself for love, remove the negativity from ur life, and accept the love u kno u deserve

  

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243. "you're an idiot, something"
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which has been abundantly clear over the years.

i've actually kinda appreciated that about you, to be honest. proving that the okaygay contingent is not an erudite, urbane monolith.

  

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273. "rage on! hope this is helping ur blood pressure"
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prototype

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278. "thank you."
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103. "More likely because it's a white boy"
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The outage is emotionally driven

The racial aspect just can not be dismissed .

Had Pharrell done the song by himself......or gave it to an artist like D'Angelo

People's reaction to him having to pony up damn near 8 mil to Gayes kids would be quite different

Some of us are looking beyond the resentment for "blue eyed soul" and are concerned about what this means to hip-hop and R&B music in general....particularly artists we do like and support

  

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181. "yall need to stop hiding behind D'Angelo and this racial angle"
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it doesn't matter who makes the song.. if it's an obvious rip, people will speak on it.

Hell, half the people in here arguing for Thicke are the same ones taking pride in listing all the rips Bruno Mars had in Uptown Funk.

You can't be all "I know where they got if from" and then cry when the original artist pops up and asked for his cut.

Hide that shit a little better or be prepared to CTC.

  

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224. "nah, it's an obvious attempt at recreating"
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but that's not illegal

Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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21. "gyeah"
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>
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even when it may exceed its effective scope."

"Roll me further bitch"

  

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23. "Every hip hop producer should get sued according to some of you"
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from Dilla, to DJ Quik

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116. "to quote the legendary pete rock 'flip the bass and erase any"
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trace of sample evidence'... he didn't flip it enuff and he lost. either he was too lazy and he didn't care, or he thought his "inspired by" argument would cover him, which as we can see is a slippery slope which has just become even more slippery. he will certainly try harder next time tho.

  

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24. "LOL the jury doesn't know what the fuck they're talking about "
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32. "the Pauls Boutique of now"
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33. "This is setting a horrible precedent."
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I mean, all you have to do is chart the songs out to see they are literally different compositions. Nothing good will come from this. OK lawyers, can they appeal this?

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39. "they can and probably will appeal."
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and they should.

fuck you.

  

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189. "How expensve will the appeal's process be though?"
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I'm sure all the lawyers involved would love more and more appeals, but I dunno how many hours Robin Thicke is willing to be billed.

His album after the one with Blurred Lines flopped, right? I don't follow pop music too much, but I remember his getting clowned for an album he recently released.

  

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191. "He and Willliams can afford it."
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If not I'm sure some lawyers would take the case pro bono bc of the potential to set binding precedent. Or some musicians might get together and fund it.

fuck you.

  

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213. "RE: He and Willliams can afford it."
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>If not I'm sure some lawyers would take the case pro bono bc
>of the potential to set binding precedent. Or some musicians
>might get together and fund it.


With the $7.3 or whatever the exact dollar amount involved in the ruling, I doubt a lawyer is going to want to take this case pro bono, at least I know I wouldn't if I were a lawyer. The second scenario you posed is fairly interesting though and makes sense if the ruling is as precedent making as this thread is inferring.

  

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218. "this jury trial decision is not binding precedent."
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only appellate decisions are binding precedent - they bind judges in the appellate court's circuit or district.

i think this case's impact may be seen where more lawyers are willing to take on cases like the Gaye estate's case - where some record sounds like some other record but doesn't sample or interpolate but sounds enough like it. w/this jury verdict lawyers may take the case and push harder for settlement. the amounts in demands for payment will get higher. and i think more defendants like Williams and Thicke will be more likely to settle. and more record labels who are considering releasing records like 'Blurred Lines' may reconsider b/c they don't want to end up being barred from selling a record like 'Blurred Lines' as the Gayes are now going to try to have Thicke's label barred from selling 'Blurred Lines'.

and appellate lawyers regularly work pro bono on cases that could set precedent b/c they have big egos and they know that high profile cases that set precedent are good promotion for the lawyer. plus some of them actually care about the law and want to see it corrected. but all of that is of no moment b/c Thicke comes from a very wealthy family (see: Alan Thicke) and Williams has earned millions in profit just from 'Blurred Lines' and has made who knows how much on all of his other hits in his past. he can afford to pay for the appellate representation if he wants to appeal this decision.

fuck you.

  

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258. "Interesting."
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I had no clue how many gears are potentially spinning because of the ruling. I wish I had time so I could search out for articles written on the ruling that go into detail of what you're referring to.

  

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37. "the fact thicke filed suit first"
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Means it's pretty obvious to all parties and observers that they went a bit above and beyond


Moreso than say bruno mars funk or gagas madonna remakes



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41. "naw."
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Thicke filed suit first to keep the Gayes from smearing him around town by claiming he'd stolen BL from GTGIU's copyright protected elements.

it wasn't any acknowledgement of guilt. neither was the defendants' settlement offer - they wanted to settle the case to avoid going through the depositions. and that makes sense b/c damaging info came out during the deps that have hurt Thicke's image and had nothing to do w/whether he improperly borrowed from GTGIU (his drug use and the fact that he didn't write much on Blurred Lines among other facts). defendants in civil suits regularly make settlement offers b/c they want to avoid going through the discovery process - especially high profile defendants.

and i dunno what happened between Gagz and Madge and whether Madge made a demand and they reached some agreement. but 'Born This Way' sounds a lot like 'Express Yourself' but then again 'EY' sounds a lot like the Staples Singers' 'Respect Yourself' so maybe Madge didn't make any demand or file any suit b/c she didn't wanna have to deal w/explaining that similarity. i dunno.

as for Mars and Ronson (creators of Uptown Funk) they may be in trouble after this verdict. b/c that song sounds like 'Fantastic Voyage' and some of The Time's songs. i dunno if any demands have been made and/or met between all the potential parties there.

fuck you.

  

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"The fact someone files a lawsuit means it has merit? SMH."


  

          


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52. "The fact someone files a lawsuit means it has merit? SMH."
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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"One of the most important things in life is what Judge Learned Hand described as 'that ever-gnawing inner doubt as to whether you're r

  

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45. "Good!"
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This isn't really that complicated. Them jokas knew what they were doing.

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47. "combat jack's view as an entertainment lawyer:"
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https://twitter.com/Combat_Jack/status/575421841478664192
https://twitter.com/Combat_Jack/status/575421462208708609

https://twitter.com/Combat_Jack/status/575423039862628352

https://twitter.com/Combat_Jack/status/575426529565540352
https://twitter.com/Combat_Jack/status/575426840145301504
https://twitter.com/Combat_Jack/status/575427177665150976
https://twitter.com/Combat_Jack/status/575427424080494592


*stirs the pot*

edited to add:
gonna go with combat jack on this bc he has actual first hand experience with these types of cases and also he's haitian.

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49. "but Williams and Thicke didn't replay music from GTGIU."
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which is why so many others in the industry have said the Gayes should've lost here.

this despite any hard feelings about whitey, Thicke or Williams or any affinity for Gaye.

and the defendants did participate in settlement negotiations (judges commonly force it). the negotiation failed and so the case proceeded and got all the way to trial and verdict.

fuck you.

  

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60. "his example is entirely different."
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Jay-Z ACTUALLY SANG a little bit of "I Wish". Def Jam did the same thing to Sisqo when he sang the words "Livin' La Vida Loca" in "Thong Song".

"Switching the notes around and playing chicken" is, quite literally, how hundreds of songs have been created in pop music and beyond. If it ain't right for Pharrell to do, it shouldn't be right for anyone else statute-of-limitations forward. Think about how many commercials you hear where they have a song that sort of sounds like a pop hit but isn't that pop hit. What of them?

  

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70. "base"
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>


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72. "more:"
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https://twitter.com/Combat_Jack/status/575437697289973762
https://twitter.com/Combat_Jack/status/575437883902947328

https://twitter.com/Combat_Jack/status/575438327698092033

https://twitter.com/Combat_Jack/status/575438474603532288

https://twitter.com/Combat_Jack/status/575438745165512704

https://twitter.com/Combat_Jack/status/575440652198088704

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75. "as i'm sure you and Jack know, sampling isn't an issue here."
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the question was did Thicke and Williams interpolate GTGIU by replaying some copyright protected element of the song itself (not the sound recording) w/o permission.

they didn't which is why this jury verdict is puzzling to many.

it's clear Williams was inspired by GTGIU in the creation of BL - but inspiration isn't the same as interpolating. i think he purposely re-created pieces of the sound recording - production elements that aren't protected by any copyright held by the Gaye family. which is why the Gayes should've lost, IMO.

fuck you.

  

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118. "this shit aint rocket science man. them niggas gambled and lost."
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they thought they could be just slick enuff to get by on some technicality shit...Nope. like I said way earlier...they coulda payed a fuckin fraction of what they ended up payin...minus the embarrassment and smack in the face. like jack said...arrogance at its finest. Pharell sittin on 100Ms he coulda paid the fam alil change and wrote it off as a tax write off smh. but he wanted to prove his point and go to court...which he did.

edit: but of course these ppl in here know WAY more than combat jack who is an entertainment lawyer and been in and out of the business for years and years lol

  

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133. "yup, I knlw a producer who is alwahs being sued and he admits he jacks s..."
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But his arrogance and deep pockets are able to stall out artist until the song makes big money. Then he settles for pennies on the dollar.

How many albums did Thicke sell just because of blurred lines? How much money did the record label make off of this song? I know they want Pharell and Thickes cut but what about the rest?

How much did he make off tours due to this being the song of the summer?

They were arrogant and greedy.



  

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186. "The defendants participated in settlement negotiation."
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It didn't work - the parties couldn't agree on an amount. So the case went to trial. That's standard practice.

And Jack is an entertainment lawyer - both parties were represented by lawyers. Which means lawyers were able to argue both sides of the case. It means lawyers may disagree about the facts of the case. The fact that he is a lawyer doesn't necessarily mean he is correct. Especially bc he's raising irrelevant issues like sampling - this case ain't about sampling. Or quoting lyrics - the case ain't about that. It's also not about the defendants failing to offer payment for some alleged use bc they did. So yeah, he lost credibility imo by bringing all of that up.

fuck you.

  

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48. "wow woe ! Music as we know it is ruined!!!! Woe woe"
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Lmao okps are literally some of the most annoying ppl every. Glad I only "encounter" u ppl here

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50. "yes and whitey is dead now that Thicke has to pay the Gayes."
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fuck you.

  

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53. "oh I don't mind robin thicke at all, find pharell very annoying. But ple..."
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Keep typing ur foolishness as usual. Don't give that much a fuck to go back and forth with u

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58. "oh my bad. i didn't know Pharrell stole your lunch money"
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and so you have hard feelings. i figure you were out for Thicke b/c you hate whitey.

i see now.

fuck you.

  

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61. "RE: oh I don't mind robin thicke at all, find pharell very annoying. But..."
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>Keep typing ur foolishness as usual. Don't give that much a
>fuck to go back and forth with u


U don't get it....This shit has the potential for turning music as we know it upside down....

A lot of people are going to come out the woodwork and throw around crazy lawsuits just because a song "feels" like another song...Not the stealing of notes, phrases, or outright samples...A feel....

Whether u think Pharell is annoying or not is moot...This shit is crazy....Basically, Bruno Mars needs to be hitting up his lawyer to get his defense together for "jacking" the "feel" of the Police for his "Locked Out of Heaven"....

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62. "Alicia Keys' 'Like You'll Never See Me Again'"
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feels like Prince's 'Purple Rain'.

she and the songwriters might be nervous today.

fuck you.

  

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76. "Shit, Alicia Keys' "Fallin'". It's JB's "It's a Man's Man's Man's World""
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I don't understand how she escaped the scrutiny. That one is far closer than this.

  

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80. "that's a sample, isn't it?"
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i assumed it was cleared.

and maybe 'Purple Rain' was sampled/interpolated and cleared for 'Like You'll Never See Me Again'.

fuck you.

  

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87. "It is not. In fact, I dug up my CD booklet to find the liner notes."
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One composer, Alicia Keys.

Not a word about a sample or an interpolation.

If she cleared that shit, it was some sort of a deal that didn't require attribution.

  

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89. "You're right."
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That shit is so blatant I assume it had to be cleared. Maybe without need for crediting.

fuck you.

  

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106. "I'm stunned. I never even gave that a second thought. Wow."
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Da bayball, babeh. (c) Charlie Kelly.

  

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144. "Clive Davis is a lawyer and Lawyers run the business"
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and AK knew she jacked it as did James Brown and he said so in a interview however who has the rights to the songs?

industry does what industry wants to satisfy its own means believe that.

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173. "So they just _let_ her take it?"
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177. "if so it's b/c BMG owns both recordings."
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and possibly the publishing rights to 'It's a Man's Man's Man's World'.

fuck you.

  

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203. "Warner/Chappell owns IAMMMW, EMI owns Fallin'"
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http://it.warnerchappell.com/song-details/WW001047793000 <--BMI

https://www.ascap.com/Home/ace-title-search/index.aspx <--ASCAP

Moreover, Sony (which owns the former BMG catalog) owns the master recording of "Fallin;", but Universal Music owns all of James Brown's King and Polydor recordings.

  

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205. "then i really don't get it."
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>http://it.warnerchappell.com/song-details/WW001047793000
><--BMI
>
>https://www.ascap.com/Home/ace-title-search/index.aspx
><--ASCAP
>
>Moreover, Sony (which owns the former BMG catalog) owns the
>master recording of "Fallin;", but Universal Music owns all of
>James Brown's King and Polydor recordings.

fuck you.

  

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264. "Clive Davis is a lawyer and if he could handle the puffy sampling"
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riding off others songs era and turn profits there then with alicia keys that is a days work.

they worked out something behind the scenes best believe however Clive had alicia on oprah and etc... with fallin and nobody aside from JB fans and music geeks dare say a word then.

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266. "Prince loves her and she introduced him at the rock and roll"
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hall of fame. and he knows and never has come at anyone except when his stuff got sampled and he blocked it. however he knows not to raise a hand there since quite of few of his own tracks sound like jacks, however it ain't just him and lets remember though Prince and Clive davis didn't work together well, there is a connection. so much behind the scenes

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55. "it ain't ruined, but don't think that"
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if you're a Sharon Jones & the Dap-Kings or a Raphael Saadiq that you're not gonna have lawyers representing classic song catalogs going through your output

  

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59. "Bruno Mars and Mark Ronson are sweating a bit today."
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fuck you.

  

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437. "I'll kick in to a crowdfunding site to help Morris Day file suit "
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68. "^"
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67. "you don't sound very bright."
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71. "Much like the merit of the suit, your opinion is based on "feel", not fa..."
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Or any understanding of the subject whatsoever.

Talk about annoying.

  

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73. "agreed"
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so eager to bicker and play devils advocate and shit.

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77. "ikr? how dare we offer differing opinions"
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and actually stand behind them instead of merely agreeing w/whomever posts first and offering nothing but cosigns.

and it's definitely awful that some of us understand things that confound or confuse others who post here. it's god-awful and annoying that ppl are willing to share what they know instead of letting ppl who are less knowledgeable just post and post away w/o being corrected or challenged.

i hate it too.

fuck you.

  

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182. "*DEAD*"
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loudmouth bamas be quick to throw out all the artist a song jacks but then gets mad when the actual artist/estate hears it.

Oh, the muthafukkin irony

  

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54. "OKP wrong yet again..."
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78. "smart dumb niggas"
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when everyone can name the inspiration for a song after the first few bars... and it makes a shit load of money, its a wrap.

  

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84. "fuck, you people are idiots."
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94. "lol, yall just mad for being on the wrong side"
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101. "or, we know how much great music jacked older music. "
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this verdict is insane, if you think about it.

  

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110. "why the fuck are yall arguing for songs to be jacked without repercussio..."
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If a song is good I will dance to the shit for eternity.

I will still dance to Blurred Lines...

Just because they lost doesnt mea the song sucks.. just means they have to pay up.

  

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113. "nobody could pay enough. "
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how many ppl could bruno mars pay for uptown funk?

prince
trinidad james
one way
lakeside
zapp
the entire p-funk collective


goddamn.


you can't just come up with new shit.
the new shit is all old shit.

the music tradition since forever
is about jacking shit.

  

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117. "aint no one thinking about that song"
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121. "a song ppl are thinking of is probaly a jack. "
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so many songs are jacks.
i don't think you ppl realize how common jacks are.

  

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124. "been listening to music since the 70's... have a shit load of wax from t..."
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I know a lot of songs are jacked...

I aslo know a lot of artist have been screwed over when a song is blatantly jacked.

I feel no pity when songs make millions today and have to pay a portion when they are found guilty.

  

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153. "which is why i'm calling you a fucking idiot."
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174. "lol, you mad as shit"
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188. "i don't deny it. "
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I'm furious. This is is awful - and you fucking mouthbreathers are too stupid to understand why.

  

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194. "I think fuck off fuckwitt gave it away...lol. "
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it will be alright tho..

  

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209. "if you think it will be alright "
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I'm not sure you get the ramifications of this ruling.

  

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63. "GOOD!!!"
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69. "Who's suing for uptown funk"
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If im as lease ball lawyer like better call Saul I'm going through all kinda of song catalogs and looking for these types of connections- just throwing shit at the wall.

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93. "Or Ed Sheeran's Thinking out Loud?"
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Da bayball, babeh. (c) Charlie Kelly.

  

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141. "lawyers already do this shit..."
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79. "Kellz is gonna get reamed."
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82. "RE: Kellz is gonna get reamed."
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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88. "some of this should be protected by statute of limitations"
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but when's the last time Saadiq put out a record?

  

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135. "the Gaye Family Loves Kellz and steps with the CHI TOwn's best"
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so naw things are cool.

mistermaxxx R.Kelly, Michael Jackson,Stevie wonder,Rick James,Marvin Gaye,El Debarge, Barry WHite Lionel RIchie,Isleys EWF,Lady T.,Kid creole and coconuts,the crusaders,kc sunshine band,bee gees,jW,sd,NE,JB

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81. "know what's MOST ridiculous about this? GTGIU is a ripoff itself."
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Gaye himself said that he made Got To Give It Up inspired off of Johnnie Taylor's "Disco Lady".

From Rolling Stone: "Williams also shrugged off the notion that the "Blurred Lines" lyrics "Shake around, get up, get down" closely resembled the line "Move it up, turn it round, shake it down" on "Got to Give It Up." "In the average black family of the Seventies, that's what we do when a song comes on," he said, according to THR. "That's what my dad used to say."

Now what's funny is the lyrics they are referring to in GTGIU are ripped off almost word for word from Disco Lady. which is all to say this is a dumb ass decision and Gaye's family needs to have several seats. i hope this goes to appeal and is reversed.

i really wonder if Gaye was alive today if he HIMSELF woulda sued Pharrell/Thicke, but i have to doubt it.

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83. "i don't think Gaye would've filed the suit."
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or if he did i think he would've settled w/the defendants to avoid going through the depositions.

i guess the Gaye family won't be suing the Michael Jackson estate b/c i think the Jackson estate has such a clear statute of limitations defense, but MJ's 'Don't Stop Til You Get Enough' and the Jackson's 'Shake Your Body Down To the Ground' are each inspired by 'GTGIU'. the latter even borrows lyrical content from Gaye's song (which is protected by the copyright owned by the Gayes) where the former only borrows production elements (not protected by the Gayes' copyright as any borrowed elements in BL aren't so protected).

fuck you.

  

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85. "we're right ><"
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anyone thinking this doesn't have the potential to change music is dense.

this is precedent for suing someone because their song "sounds" like yours.

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86. "/"
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'

fuck you.

  

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97. "people sue all the time because they think a song "sounds" like theirs"
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Why are yall acting brand new like this isnt done all the time?

When an artist files a lawsuit AGAINST another artist it screams SUE ME because I used your shit.

  

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98. "and in the past those artists have been sent home..."
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with hat in hand. thanks for playing, nice try.

this changes that and is a bad bar to set, musically speaking.

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122. "sometimes they win, sometimes they lose... "
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To deny that is crazy talk

  

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225. "god damn u stupid son"
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nigga wants laws to just be *waves hand* close enough

the shit aint a direct rip even if it is a clear inspiration....

95% of musicians can get sued for this shit if that's the case yo

Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

Building repetoires (c) spm since 1983

  

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324. "chill b. "
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397. "Fuck that shit, Robin Thicke is tryin' to kill me(c)Scarface"
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www.somethinginthewudder.com

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96. "If I recall, there was little structure to it originally"
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From Divided Soul, I thought somebody went in after the fact and managed to piece together some semblance of what was basically a much longer, free-form jam.

  

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90. "RE: Gaye family wins $7.4 mil in Blurred Lines case."
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Exhibit A:
"Simon Says" by the 1910 Frutigum Company:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvzHGYSv8kw

Exhibit B:
The second (familiar) theme song for "Scooby-Doo, Where are You!" by Ben Raleigh and David Mook, 1969:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH1q9co-JOY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW8_1oU9pq4 - instrumental for more clarity


Why ain't _they_ sue?

  

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226. "because this was before the music industry was broke as fuck"
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and hip-hop had been made the cash cow

  

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92. "RE: Gaye family wins $7.4 mil in Blurred Lines case."
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See folks yelping and cheering because they think this just hurts the white boy.....but quiet as kept your favorite producers sweating bullets over this verdict

  

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95. "gtfoh.... lawsuits happen all the time"
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The only people sweatin are the ones who blatantly ripped off other artist.

Sam Smith cut that check to Tom Petty because it was obvious. Thicke filed a suit because he knew they overstepped.

Pay up or make an original song.

Any song that makes big money in pop music gets hit with a few lawsuits. Its part of the game and usually the record label makes so much money off the track the settlement is minimal.

7.4 mill is chump change... that song prolly generated 50 mill.

  

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104. "I don't think you follow as to what just happened here...."
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anyone wants to catch him up to speed....if possible

  

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"he won't get it."


  

          

bless his heart.

fuck you.

  

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108. "have several seats... "
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http://www.pennypinching-grandma.com/images/bar-stool.jpg

  

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99. "ppl aplauding this verdict haven't done their research. "
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they are probably nodding their head right now
to songs that are clearly jacks of other records they've never heard of.

this is a horrible, horrible verdict.

  

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109. "continues to nod to a song that was jacked from an old song..."
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Gives no fucks because it doesnt effect my pockets.

  

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100. "good for them. not sure why ppl think this is the end of music"
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means to avoid lawsuits exist

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102. "well, yeah."
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the way to avoid a suit like this is to avoid being inspired by any other song when one creates one's own song. even though songs have been inspired by other songs since songwriting began and is often encouraged among actual artists when it amounts to homage or an honor. and while i myself don't think this will be 'the end of music' i do think it'll stifle creativity so i'm kinda bummed about that.

but mostly i'm not jazzed about this b/c i don't see it as a victory of Blacks over whitey. and even though i'm a huge fan of Gaye and not much a fan of Pharell or Thicke i can put my personal feelings about them aside when i look at this case. i see the bigger picture, i think.

fuck you.

  

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105. "smh"
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got ethered and edited, smh

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107. "i decided to go away from the original snark"
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and address the meat of your reply and ignore the feigned ignorance ('not sure why...').

so yeah, while there is a way for ppl to avoid this kind of suit i think that'll result in LESS creativity and not more.

fuck you.

  

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111. "it wont result in less creativity, just means more checks will get cut b..."
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go to press.

Is Sam Smiths song no longer good because Petty got a check cut?

I think the problem is you know it all niggas didnt get this one right... so now its Blacks vs whitey instead of just admitting you got it wrong.

  

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115. "dude, all these songs out here are jacks. "
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all songs all throughout history were jacks.

ppl jack folks you ppl ain't heard of,
but they jacked.

billie jean was a jack.
most stuff influenced by james brown jacked.
james brown himself jacked.


you cannot pay enough money to folks you jack from,
because so many songs are jacks that it would
litteraly cost infinity dollars to clear "uptown funk."


>go to press.
>
>Is Sam Smiths song no longer good because Petty got a check
>cut?
>
>I think the problem is you know it all niggas didnt get this
>one right... so now its Blacks vs whitey instead of just
>admitting you got it wrong.
>
>

  

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120. "fuck that lil song... "
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When I hear uptown funk I dont say "oh shit, its this song"

Pharell tried to say BL was an ode to 70's funk. Nah.. it was clearly an ode to GTGIU. Anyone who heard it immediately said it was that song.

Uptown funk isnt Computer Love or Oak Tree or some other jam from back in the day.

When its blatant.. and fuck what you heard, that shit was blatant... you have to pay up IF someone sues.



  

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123. "computer love is a jack and so is oak tree. "
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blatantly so.

this is my point.

>When I hear uptown funk I dont say "oh shit, its this song"
>
>Pharell tried to say BL was an ode to 70's funk. Nah.. it was
>clearly an ode to GTGIU. Anyone who heard it immediately said
>it was that song.
>


>Uptown funk isnt Computer Love or Oak Tree or some other jam
>from back in the day.
>
>When its blatant.. and fuck what you heard, that shit was
>blatant... you have to pay up IF someone sues.
>
>

  

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126. "great... so if someone takes them to court, pay up. If not... oh well. "
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127. "lol Oak Tree"
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>When I hear uptown funk I dont say "oh shit, its this song"
>
>Pharell tried to say BL was an ode to 70's funk. Nah.. it was
>clearly an ode to GTGIU. Anyone who heard it immediately said
>it was that song.
>
>Uptown funk isnt Computer Love or Oak Tree or some other jam
>from back in the day.
>
>When its blatant.. and fuck what you heard, that shit was
>blatant... you have to pay up IF someone sues.
>
>
>
>

  

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130. "I'm just throwing out jams from back in the day...lol"
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131. "I know, that one was funny lol"
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125. "so tell these niggas to do better in the way of originality or pay up"
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life goes on

  

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128. "exactly, if it aint original or borrows too much.. pay up. "
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If you are creative enough to hide it or mix it up, you are good to go.

These dudes mad because they ran up and down that thread telling us we were wrong.

  

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134. "and honestly LD i could care less...i aint anti sampling...i came"
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up in the 80s man half the music I grew up on comes from samples. sample away but if your shit is blatant (read: that recognizable) then pay the lil fee and keep it movin. but we all know this whole issue is a slippery slope and has been since samplings inception and it gets progressively slipperier as we go so niggas took a slide off the roof today. deal with it. if im pharell and im that enamored and "inspired" by the classic song then why not break the fam off alil change and now everybodys happy? jay z shoulda taught him better smh

  

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140. "I take pride in catching samples... I dig, I grew up on 70s and 80s.."
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If you can flip it and hide it... good for you. If you are lazy and dont chop shit up, pay up.

If you cant find a groove so you borrow or flip some old melpdy and no one catches on... good for you. Nit if you get caught out there.. pay up.

Like you said, Pharell was feeling himself and got caught out there. Oh well...

People in here acting like they stripped P naked. The old post people were talking about how it wuld ruin reggae, gtfoh...

  

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132. "no ideas original (c) nas"
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who does d'angelo pay?
everybody?

like... how?

  

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137. "if the person who D is 'inspired by' comes to him then sit"
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down at the table and work things out. if not then go to court and u may win, u may lose. but if nobody says shit then rock out witcha cock out.. but if u get called out then make the shit right and keep it movin... or, take a chance and roll the dice

edit: and the thing is, marv been sampled plenty of times, so its not like he (his estate) is prince and wont play ball. they just didn't wanna pay money but still wanted to "pay homage" lol. nigga please

  

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138. "aint noooooo one trying to take the few nickels D is making mumbling on ..."
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Cmon... you are reaching. This is only going to be a problem when a song blows up and everyone says it sounds like (insert song)... and if they belong to different publishers.

A lot of deals are made up front when artist know theh have a good chance of being sued.

Its only the arrogant few and the unexpected hot single that get in trouble.

No disrespect to D but no one gives a shit about his album UNLESS one of his songs turns into a banger and that prolly aint happening.

  

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142. "I think you missed my point. "
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who can sue d'angelo for another life?

prince sues for the background vocals.
thom bell sues for the


forget it.

  

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145. "it doesnt matter. if u can get away with it, so be it. if not pay."
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if nobody fucks with D so be it. if they do, so be it.

  

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179. "yup...and playing that D card won't work"
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what people need to understand is a lot of artist WON'T sue because they sold their rights or they jack as well and charge it to the game.

HOWEVER, some artist/estates don't play that shit.

  

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178. "or it'll mean fewer songs like 'Blurred Lines' or 'Stay With Me' get"
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released.

this is NOT about examples like Smith. this is more about examples like 'Uptown Funk' which sounds vaguely like 'Fantastic Voyage' but not really enough to say it's a str8 copy or even an interpolation. but b/c it reminds ppl of 'Fantastic Voyage' that's enough for Ronson and Mars (and/or the label) to have to pay the writers of 'Fantastic Voyage'.

>I think the problem is you know it all niggas didnt get this
>one right... so now its Blacks vs whitey instead of just
>admitting you got it wrong.

i dunno who or what you're talking about there.

i disagree w/this jury's verdict. i still think i'm right and their verdict is wrong.

and yes, i think many of the ppl who agree w/this verdict agree largely b/c Thicke is white and Gaye was Black and they like that a jury is making that white man pay the dead Black man's family for infringement. several ppl have admitted as much ('white artists have robbed black artists for decades' et al) - i'm not making that up, player.

fuck you.

  

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180. "RE: or it'll mean fewer songs like 'Blurred Lines' or 'Stay With Me' get"
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>released.
>
>this is NOT about examples like Smith. this is more about
>examples like 'Uptown Funk' which sounds vaguely like
>'Fantastic Voyage' but not really enough to say it's a str8
>copy or even an interpolation. but b/c it reminds ppl of
>'Fantastic Voyage' that's enough for Ronson and Mars (and/or
>the label) to have to pay the writers of 'Fantastic Voyage'.
>
>
>>I think the problem is you know it all niggas didnt get this
>>one right... so now its Blacks vs whitey instead of just
>>admitting you got it wrong.
>
>i dunno who or what you're talking about there.
>
>i disagree w/this jury's verdict. i still think i'm right and
>their verdict is wrong.
>
>and yes, i think many of the ppl who agree w/this verdict
>agree largely b/c Thicke is white and Gaye was Black and they
>like that a jury is making that white man pay the dead Black
>man's family for infringement. several ppl have admitted as
>much ('white artists have robbed black artists for decades' et
>al) - i'm not making that up, player.

you don't know what I'm talking about yet you just addressed everything I was talking about.

Like I said... you are mad because you thought you had it right and you were wrong.

some people hate Thicke because he's white.. but others give no fucks about Thicke's color and realize Pharell did 99% of the work and still think it's a rip off. Pharell is the one who did 99% of the work.

Pharell ain't white player..


and it doesn't mean there will be less Stay With Me's and Blurred Lines...

it means they will have to cut a check BEFORE HAND or gamble and cut a bigger check after the song blows up.

  

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185. "Since you know me so well what color are my drawers today?"
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>you don't know what I'm talking about yet you just addressed
>everything I was talking about.

I'm fucking great at this OKP shit. I can dismiss your points without even a full understanding. Maybe I got used to doing that bc in the real world I've won jury trials where I hadn't seen the case file until 10 minutes b4 I started jury selection. I'm quick on my feet. I'm good at this.

>Like I said... you are mad because you thought you had it
>right and you were wrong.

I dunno where you are getting that from. But if I said this jury would find for Thicke and Williams I was wrong. But I am not mad about being wrong there. I'm disappointed that the jury made a bad decision bc of the potentially broad implications in the music biz. I'm also kinda glad the jury made the white man pay a Black man but bc it's for a wrong reason and I'm more concerned with the wider implication this decision might have I'm more disappointed than glad. But no, I don't care that I was wrong if I said here or elsewhere that this jury would find for the defendants. I'm wrong about stuff everyday (in the real world, even, where it actually matters) - if that made me mad I'd be homicidal, I think. Bc it's a regular occurrence. But that's life.

>some people hate Thicke because he's white.. but others give
>no fucks about Thicke's color and realize Pharell did 99% of
>the work and still think it's a rip off. Pharell is the one
>who did 99% of the work.
>
>Pharell ain't white player..

Yup. That's true too - at least one person has said he likes the verdict bc he hates Pharrell. But I'm not saying that everyone who agrees with the verdict hates whitey or the defendants.

>and it doesn't mean there will be less Stay With Me's and
>Blurred Lines...

Maybe not. But it could. I dunno.

>it means they will have to cut a check BEFORE HAND or gamble
>and cut a bigger check after the song blows up.

And I dont like that. I also think that's why we may see fewer songs like Blurred Lines and Uptown Funk or that Ed Sheeran song that sounds like Lets Get It On or Oh Sheila or Hangin on a String or Billie Jean or Don't Stop Til You Get Enough or Got To Be Real or even Got To Give It Up itself, among others that vaguely sound like some other song or that borrow unprotected production elements but don't interpolate or sample any copyright protected material.

fuck you.

  

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195. "dirty"
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I don't think it's going to end music as we know it...

yall really sound unhinged over this tho..



  

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199. "it could change it drastically. "
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>I don't think it's going to end music as we know it...
>


i care about the verdict because i like music.
i understand the potential results, and i dislike them.

but whatever.


>yall really sound unhinged over this tho..
>
>
>
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201. ""this could be the end" is some shit people say when they lose..."
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I love music...

but them niggas lost because it was a blatant rip off.

and these niggas were snarky as fuck on the stand. Pay homage the correct way and you won't have these problems.

  

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204. "i love "master blaster.""
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yes, it is an obvious bob marley jack.
but stevie should not have had to clear that.

i am glad stevie wonder could make and release that song
without worying about getting sued.

but if this ruling is correct (and it's not) stevie
could be sued for master blaster.

why do you think that makes sense?


and he'd have to pay an infinite number of ppl for
"don't you worry about a thing."

why is that a good thing in your world?


>
>I love music...
>
>but them niggas lost because it was a blatant rip off.
>
>and these niggas were snarky as fuck on the stand. Pay homage
>the correct way and you won't have these problems.
>

  

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219. "RE: i love "master blaster.""
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>yes, it is an obvious bob marley jack.
>but stevie should not have had to clear that.
>
>i am glad stevie wonder could make and release that song
>without worying about getting sued.
>
>but if this ruling is correct (and it's not) stevie
>could be sued for master blaster.
>
>why do you think that makes sense?

yes, because like you said, it's a clear Marley jack. First time I heard Master Blaster it was obvious...

I doubt Marley cared tho because reggae was all about jacking songs...

but if his estate sued, they would prolly win.
>
>
>and he'd have to pay an infinite number of ppl for
>"don't you worry about a thing."
>
>why is that a good thing in your world?

because they were blatant rip offs

same with Part Time Lover. Hall & Oates can or should have been broke off for it.

I still love all those songs, but if sued, he has to pay.

  

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233. "I hated Master Blaster"
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But what exact song are you talking about...

because you cant really say it Marley esque kinda like Action Bronson is Ghost face esque....

You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.

  

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262. "jammin', bob marley. "
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>But what exact song are you talking about...
>
>because you cant really say it Marley esque kinda like Action
>Bronson is Ghost face esque....

  

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317. "If you don't hear Jammin in Master Blaster then ionno... "
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the fact that you don't like Master Blaster is enough reason for me to believe your ears are horrible. LOL

  

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208. "i don't think it'll end music as we know it."
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i think it may change music where we may see fewer songs like the ones i listed. but i don't think it'll end music as we know it.

fuck you.

  

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232. "this is like saying the jury got the trayvon case right"
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u act like the jury aint just confirming your idiocy is common

Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

Building repetoires (c) spm since 1983

  

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319. "you really bringing up Trayvon? Cmon bruh.. that's foul"
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you don't have to like the verdict but you damn sure don't need to bring up Trayvon just cause your mad at this verdict.

  

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136. "Fakerell and Robin Hood got what they deserved"
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turkeys can't write no songs and only if they are car jacking.

problem is the music business has allowed known jackers especially from the Rap Perspective to make it look like things are legit when they aren't

Pharell is Overrated and a joke.

and Thicke had one medium hit and this jack and then what else?

that turkey is headed straight to the lounge of the Olive garden

mistermaxxx R.Kelly, Michael Jackson,Stevie wonder,Rick James,Marvin Gaye,El Debarge, Barry WHite Lionel RIchie,Isleys EWF,Lady T.,Kid creole and coconuts,the crusaders,kc sunshine band,bee gees,jW,sd,NE,JB

Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

  

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Joe Corn Mo
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Tue Mar-10-15 11:37 PM

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143. "but rick james doesn't owe p-funk any money, right?"
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just wanted to know if this logic only applies to bands you like.

>turkeys can't write no songs and only if they are car
>jacking.
>
>problem is the music business has allowed known jackers
>especially from the Rap Perspective to make it look like
>things are legit when they aren't
>
>Pharell is Overrated and a joke.
>
>and Thicke had one medium hit and this jack and then what
>else?
>
>that turkey is headed straight to the lounge of the Olive
>garden

  

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mistermaxxx08
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Tue Mar-10-15 11:49 PM